Cheick Kongo to Meet Paul Buentello at UFC on Versus 1
by Raikoh101 on Jan 18, 2010 5:39 PM EST
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Cheick Kongo (14-6-1) will meet fellow heavyweight Paul Buentello (27-11) on the first UFC on Versus on March 21st, according to the event's official site. Both fighters are coming off losses but I believe it'll be a slugfest no matter what. The fight
UFC on Versus 1:
Main card -
Jon Jones vs. Brandon Vera
Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Junior Dos Santos
Anthony Johnson vs. John Howard
Cheick Kongo vs. Paul Buentello
Prelims -
Eliot Marshall vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Duane Ludwig vs. Spencer Fisher
Not yet confirmed -
Clay Guida vs. Shannon Gugerty
Alessio Sakara vs. James Irvin
Brendan Schaub vs. Chase Gormley
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Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Aha
Thanks. This card is fuckin stacked…
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Brandon Vera vs. Jon Jones
Junior dos Santos vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Cheick Kongo vs. Paul Buentello
Anthony Johnson vs. John Howard
And I want Eliot Marshall vs. Vladimir Matyushenko on the main card!
The only thing that sucks is they lost Guida vs Sherk. Damn! I will say this – flamers be damned – I’m more excited by this card than UFC 108.
Guida/Gugerty won't be too bad
2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.
Yeah
But Sherk/Guida, in addition to the aforementioned, would have made this card too good for free TV. It almost already is.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
That would've been awesome.
Most stacked free card ever. More than UFC 75.
2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.
Again, I’m risking setting some people off, but odds are Strikeforce’s CBS card will be the best free card we’ve seen since… I don’t know when. Which is why I am looking forward to this Spring. The free cards look great (Stikeforce, UFN 21, UFC on Versus) the ppv cards look amazing (including the boxing cards), the next round of the Super Six, and hopefully a Aoki-Melendes and Crusher-Thomson Showtime card. We may look back on this as the Golden Age of mma.
YOU SON OF A BITCH
The televised portion of the CBS card might be better than this (can we get some fixed opponents before you bust your load?), but it absolutely, unequivocally, without a shadow of a doubt will not be a better card than this is. Have you seen some of the fighters on SF prelims (Oxley/Gomez)?
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
You’re telling me you wouldn’t be excited for a Louis Taylor vs. Nate Moore undercard fight? (Don’t worry: I don’t know who the hell they are either).
And in my defense we were talking about cards on TV so that should have narrowed it to televised portions of the card. And I did write this caveat:
but the odds (my italics) are Strikeforce’s CBS card will be the best free card
Still
You need to consider that the UFC actually shows prelims. Would you take four great SF fights over six really good UFC fights? I wouldn’t. Quantity is important when you have fights like those on this card. I’d personally prefer that SF stops doing the Challengers show in its present capacity, and puts some of those bad asses on these undercards and then airs them later as Challengers. Makes for better “big” cards.
(BTW, Craig Oxley is 0-2 and David Gomez is 3-2).
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Oxley and Gomez look like a couple of real up-and-comers
Hopefully StrikeForce has got their act together and is able to get a pretty good fifth fight on the card (still makes no sense that Coenen-Modafferi didn’t make the last broadcast).
I think your suggestion is a good one. I know Strikeforce likes to book local talent for the prelims because it’s cheap and helps sell tickets, but hopefully they’ll at least book 2 or 3 good challengers type matches on the prelims for every card. It’s the least they can do. And tape them!
Back to the UFC. If the Brendan Schaub and Chase Gormley fight gets signed what fights are going to make the broadcast and which ones are we going to miss?
I'm still not sure
It might only be a two hour block, but VS seems to not mind going over on WEC broadcasts. They might schedule four and end up showing five or six.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
I wouldn’t put too much weight at all in the Strikeforce pre-lims and who’s fighting on them.
They never show a pre-lim fight and use their Challengers series for prospects they want to build.
These pre-lim fights on their major events are just card filler for the ticket buyers.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 18, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
I bet if you were going to this show, or they actually aired any prelims when they have time remaining, you’d care.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Yeah I’d care if there was a chance they were going to televise any pre-lims, but after how early the Carano/Cyborg event finished and they didn’t show any I kinda figured they don’t care about these pre-lims.
For this event however the people on the Strikeforce website seem to be insinuating they’re going to stream the Riggs/Hieron fight.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 18, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Carano/Cyborg?
What about the last show? That ended so abruptly, it was just awkward. They really need to get it together with taping prelims and airing them when they have extra time.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Yeah the last show ended a little early, but I remember after the Lawler fight was cancelled Showtime came out and said it would be a 4 fight televised card.
The Carano/Cyborg card I worked that night set my DVR which was a 2 and a half hour time frame the show wasn’t even 2hrs. because of early finishes and they showed nothing extra.
I was really surprised at that.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 18, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Not exactly the Del Rosario issue at play here, but still, bummed me out big time.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Flamers?
I don’t know that that’s arguable. This is a clearly superior card.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Don't worry
I got it..
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Hold out hope
They still have a little over 2 months to resolve the dispute before you have to go to a friends.
This is a PPV card.
Kongo is going to smash Buentello’s face in.
2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.
I got a feeling this is a "Loser is cut" match.
Kongo has lost his last 2 fights and Buentello just got back to the UFC and the last thing he needs is a 2nd loss.
2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.
No way
Kongo will not get cut.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Possibly
But that is just too big and marketable a HW to let run off to SF. Plus, he took that Velasquez fight on short notice. Those sorts of favors don’t go unrewarded.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Agreed!
Congo never impresses me, and that Shoryuken Buntello gave Struve that buckeled him, made me an instant fan
HI YAH!
by Thats It For you! on Jan 18, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
I seriously wish they’d get a bigger block of time from VS so they could show us a guaranteed 5 live fights on the Main Card. This card is too good to only have 4 guaranteed fights shown
Guida/Gugerty could be on the main card
I think this is going to be a 3 hour broadcast.
2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.
Is that announced?
Versus loves to go over on WEC events, so even if it’s a two hour block, I expect to see at least five fights. But do we know that it is two hours?
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
The only thing that's confirmed
Is that it will air live on the West Coast.
2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.
When you say West Coast..
Do you mean Hawaii as well?
by bigislandboi808 on Jan 18, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
It says 10:00 PM ET/7:00 PM PT.
I don’t know about Hawai’i but I guess it would be live there too.
2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.
Dude I'm sure you know by now that the Versus cards are never live here.
My fingers are crossed though.
Awesome.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 18, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
don't worry
AJ and Kongo will provide quick KOs and they’ll have to fill time with some other fights
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Jan 18, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Oh hell yeah
I love Kongo, this card just keeps getting better. Gonna go home and see if my tickets came yet….
by ufc4 on Jan 18, 2010 5:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You just got MLK'd
bitch!
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Jan 18, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"You just got MLK'd"
what the hell is that suppose to mean
by staytrue2010 on Jan 18, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
He got Martin Luther King Junior'd
out of mail delivery today.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Thank god. I thought it meant “milked”.
by dancingChicken on Jan 19, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
a card I might have to miss
All we have up in the Yukon is Bell satellite and Bell digital cable and they do not carry versus, so much fail.
I don’t usually put a lot of stock in these polls, but I’m shocked how many people favor Kongo in this fight.
Kongo’s vice is the ground game. Anyone that wants to stand and bang with him is pretty likely to get hurt badly.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
I see this fight being very similar to Kongo’s fight with Heath Herring. It’s very close.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 18, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Paul
Doesn’t have anywhere near as good wrestling as Herring (not saying Heaths is particularly good). Overeem didn’t bother standing with Paul, I don’t see why Kongo would.
by Chris Barton on Jan 18, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure what you’re talking about. Heath Herring’s wrestling is the worst part of his game, and Kongo won’t be taking Paul down like Alistair did.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 18, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
Hate to burst your bubble, but Herring is actually a pretty decent wrestler. Don’t let the Lesnar fight fool you.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
The Lesnar fight, the Jake O’Brien fight, going back to the Tom Erikson fight and Mark Kerr. Fedor took him down at will. The UFC couldn’t wait to match him with Lesnar and Cain Velasquez. Heath Herring is not a good wrestler at all.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 18, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Herring never fought Velasquez
And he choked out Erikson, so I’m not sure how that’s making a point.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Did you see the fight with Herring and Tom Erikson?
Herring couldn’t get get up off the canvas during fight and it was stood up because of a stalemate then Herring caught Erikson with a shot dropped him took his back and choked him out.
His wrestling was awful in that fight. That’s why I mentioned it.
And yes I’m aware that Herring never fought Velasquez he was supposed to at UFC 99. My point as far as that goes is the UFC after seeing how awful Herring was at defending takedowns in the O’Brien fight matched Herring up with Lesnar when they wanted to get him a win over a name guy and had Herring scheduled for a fight with Cain to help put him over.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 18, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
He's not a world beater
I didn’t say he’s a great wrestler, but he can wrestle. Diego isn’t a terrible wrestler, but better wrestlers have their way with him. Visiting the original point— is Herring a better wrestler than Burrito? Yes, yes he is. I don’t think Burrito can wrassle up Kongo the way Herring did. He worked side control beautifully in that fight. Knee’d the SHIT out of his torso.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
You might have missed
The part where I mentioned that Heaths wrestling isn’t particularly good? Also, most of the people you listed below that were able to take Heath down are amazing wrestlers/ take down artists.
What makes you think Alistair has better wrestling than Kongo, or that Paul has better TD defense than Heath?
by Chris Barton on Jan 19, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Right on
That’s my point— while he’s not among the best wrestlers, he can wrestle.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
You gotta be joking
He didn’t get hurt, he got caught by surprise. Mir was smart enough to get on him. You think Burrito will do the same?
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
To me it looked more like Kongo being unbalanced then actually being hurt by Mir. But who knows.
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
Yeah, for sure
He was caught by surprise, but clearly not hurt.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Kongo is a kickboxer. Buentello is solely a boxer.
Kongo is shredded. Buentello is tubby.
Kongo is hungry for a win. Buentello is hungry for a burrito.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 18, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
OK i get it …. you aren’t very good at breaking down fights.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 18, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
What?
I just said that Kongo has a more diverse arsenal than Buentello, has better power & cardio, and made a joke about Buentello’s response when Baby Fedor pissed hot. How are you getting I can’t break down fights from that?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 18, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Kongo is a kickboxer Buentello’s a boxer? Carter Williams was a better kick boxer than Cheick Kongo ever thought of being It didn’t stop Buentello from laying him out.
Paul’s got heavy hands and Kongo’s been dropped more than once.
As for your reference to Buentello and Baby Fedor that went over my head.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 18, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
When Baby Fedor tested for steroids, Paul tweeted "I tested positive for burritos."
I agree Kongo can be dropped, but Buentello isn’t as fit as he should be to do it. Kongo is going to be much larger and more solid. Consider how much trouble Strueve gave him, and imagine someone making full use of that body. I’m pulling for the Headhunter, but I doubt he wins.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 18, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think the part about Buentello being hungry for a burrito is spot-on.
by ufc4 on Jan 18, 2010 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gotta go with Kongo on this one even though I am a fan of Buentello. This fight just shows how far the Heavyweight Division has gone (not the fight itself, but the bigger picture) because these one-dimensional sttrikers in Heavyweight slowly but surely seem to be going by the wayside. I guess that these two will be the gatekeepers of the UFC Heavyweight Division (Buentello was already there, but Kongo was very recently in talks of being in Title contention).
WHAT??
Dude, I have to go to this card..
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
It’s very simple, just buy the damn plane ticket already.
by ufc4 on Jan 18, 2010 8:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Vera vs Jones main event? made me laugh...
That should be Gabriel Gonzaga, former number 1 contender, and Junior dos Santos, uprising star. Vera is going downhill and Jones has so much to show off before getting that attention.
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I'VE GOT MY TICKETZ
This card iz looking good! It’z gettin pretty stacked. Too bad Sherk backed out of yet ANOTHER fight, for " undisclosed " reazonz… It makez me question why he keepz accepting fightz just to back out. IF I WAZ HIM i wouldn’t accept the fight if i knew i wuz gonna back out……AGAIN.
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