Bobby Lashley Has 'No Idea' Who He's Fighting Two Weeks From Now
"Strikeforce says Jimmy Ambriz "definitely" not fighting Lashley on 1/30. Still no opponent decided... Lashley says he "has no idea" who he's fighting."
"Other sources still insisting Ambriz in the mix. Weird situation."
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They run a tight ship over there at SF
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
They run atightsinking ship over there at SF
Fixed
by ufc4 on Jan 15, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Green, please.
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by AJB on Jan 16, 2010 6:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lashley WAS an interesting prospect. But the way SF handles his career is making it REALLY hard to care or take him seriously. A guy with his wrestling pedigree should be fighting actual contenders. This is godamn rigodamndiculous, godammit. Give him Del Rosario and inform Bobby that sometimes people actually lose fights and if he wants to be taken seriously he needs to fight people who are capable of beating him.
"He will lie between resentment and regret. He shed his grace. As certain as a snake sheds its skin. Laid waste to a wealth of talent--his curse being blessed with treasures that just were not gold enough"
by ProfessorBLove on Jan 15, 2010 11:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i wouldn’t put the blame entirely at strikeforces feet… they really wanted him to fight del rosario, but his management refused, cause the fight was too “dangerous”. guess he’s insisting on fighting a can. glad to see that the athletic commissions are having none of that shit.
Was that ever confirmed?
I know there were rumors but I looked it up and the only thing I can find is an article stating that both sides agreed and then Strikeforce canceled it for unknow reasons.
And now he has Hulk Hogan taking shots at him too
From Josh Gross’ Twitter
Hogan mentioned, rather seriously, he plans on having a conversation with Bobby Lashley Sunday to discuss Lashley’s pro wrestling future. Hogan’s quote after I inquired about Lashley working 4 TNA: "He’s gotta make a choice, brother. We need to have a serious talk, He can [do MMA and pro wrestle] but he just needs to be a businessman about it. You can’t stiff us just because you have to train for a fight. You can’t put [Strikeforce] ahead of us; that’s not going to work me. I’m going to fix that real quick. That’s going to happen Sunday. I’m going to see what he’s made of because I’ve been around too long to have someone like him to do business with"
Hogan is right, even if he is looking at this from a Pro Wrestling point of view.
With Lashley doing both, he is short changing both Strikeforce and TNA.
TNA doesn’t get a guy who is full time worker who they can put story lines around.
Strikeforce gets a semi-training athlete who doesn’t want to hurt his Pro Wrestling career and therefore turns down legit competition.
The current situation isn’t a Lashley issue, it’s a Coker/Strikeforce issue. Also, it’s my understanding the Lashley has accepted both of his potential opponents.
Did you see the size of that chicken?
It’s 100% a Lashley issue. Any job requires your full attention. If you have another job, it should not interfere. That’s standard operating procedure whether you work in an office or play a major sport.
HE’S AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR.
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by Mike Fagan on Jan 16, 2010 10:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was referring to this- http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/1/14/1251917/florida-turns-down-yohan-banks-as-
Also, its not his job to match-make, it’s his job to fight. He is clearly willing to perform in 2 weeks, he just doesn’t know who. Just because he is doing something else doesn’t mean he has to choose one or the other.
As fans, we may expect 100% of an athletes committment, however we do not set their agenda. Lashley is holding up his end of the bargain by fighting, and with this his contract.
Did you see the size of that chicken?
Huh?
Everything I have heard was that Lashley turned down both legit opponents that Strikeforce offered him (Del Rosario, Barrett) and would not accept a fight until they offered him a creampuff. Striekforce tried to book Lashley in a competitive fight on multiple occasions and was shut down by Lashley’s management. This mess rests squarely on Bobby’s shoulders.
Did any of that ever get confirmed?
Because I know there were rumors floating around but I thought nothing ever got confirmed.
I dont think we know if Lashley turned down any opponents or if he did in fact turn down 2.
The only way it will be confirmed is by SF if Lashley isn’t fighting for them any more (and then people will disregard it as a promoter trying to discredit a fighter no longer fighting for them). This is one of those things that can’t get confirmed, you either believe the reports or don’t.
Fair enough
I just dont like reading to unconfirmed reports anymore. A lot of times it turns out to be bs.
He gave Rocky all he could handle.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Where does Minowa fit in all of this?
by timetosaygoodbye on Jan 16, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
He's the champ
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by Charles Awad on Jan 16, 2010 3:25 AM EST up reply actions
People shouldn’t get too riled up about this, it’s probably a work.
When Hogan was introduced as doing whatever the fuck he’s doing at TNA Lashley’s “wife” came on the screen and demanded that Hogan release Lashley from his contract.
i’m sure hogan and Lashley will have plenty of time to sit down and have a conversation during their PPV on sunday.
From what I am aware of, that is Lashley’s real-life wife, just like Sharmell is Booker T/“King Booker”’s real-life wife as well.
You were probably right from the start
Hogan has fake hips— he isn’t trying to start legit beef with a mixed martial artist. And I also don’t think he has legitimate equity in TNA (even though he had intentions of starting a promotion, though that was before his wife cut out for a 19 year old and most of his belongings).
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
by Charles Awad on Jan 16, 2010 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
It dont matter who he faces
Strikeforce is going to throw somebody in the ring they KNOW hes going to kick the shit out of. They are really going to try and market this guy.
didnt they try that with Banks? They gave him a guy they knew he would beat the shit out of and the Florida Boxing Commission said I dont think so.
Once again, Banks was Strikeforce’s THIRD attempt to get Bobby to accept a fight. They tried to get him to accept a tougher fight and saw that he was having none of that, so they finally offered him a can.
Don’t blame Strikeforce. If they had things their way, we would have got to see a pretty damn cool fight (Lashley versus Del Rosario). This mess is 100% on Lashley.
I think there is more to that story
If Lashley was that bad why not just cut him and say go do the pro wrestling thing.
And again the 2 fights you heard him turn down right now are just rumors floating on the net. Nothing was ever confirmed of who Lashley turned down if anybody.
Why do you keep saying that? It’s not like Lashley or SF are gonna come out and “confirm” that he actually turned those guys down, there’s a reason those reports are out there.
I'm pissed Lashley isn't fighting Del Rosario.
Quite frankly, I’m starting to turn on Strikeforce’s business model. It’s nice to allow fighters to fulfill outside commitments, be it acting, non-MMA competition, or pro wrestling. However, it’s really starting to show why Dana tends to frown upon or outright disallow it. Bobby Lashley seems to be using cans in MMA to build his persona and story in TNA. Alistair is on a full K1 schedule and has no time to prepare for a real MMA fight, and needs time for his body to recover before he does. Cung Le disappeared for two years for movies, treats MMA as more of a hobby, and may have been using it the same way Lashley is.
Maybe this is only problematic in SF because it comes from belt holders and the major players in the promotion. Maybe it could work in the UFC where someone like Roger Huerta could have taken a year off to act and model, then come back to the promotion with neither of them suffering for it. Maybe Dana’s spitefulness created an issue when there didn’t need to be, since the division could easily have continued while Roger was on sabbatical. Maybe it’s a bad precedent to set since there’s no way that Lesnar could an active UFC champ and maintain a WWE career, even if that would be more lucrative for him. Lots of ‘maybes’ for me to think about.
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-Randall Munroe
Glad Strikeforce is on a whole different level.
by Riney on Jan 15, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sherdog.com just posted a story calling them the story of 2009.
by snakecharmer1340 on Jan 15, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
It must be true if Sherdog said it’s true.
by Timmy B on Jan 15, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How could they not be argueabily
by John Nash on Jan 15, 2010 11:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How could they not?
One big show, the rest all got less then 3/4th a million viewers. That is hardly a big story.
So they signed Fedor? So has a bunch of other organizations who failed miserably…
Sherdog: Elite XC the story of 2008
by snakecharmer1340 on Jan 16, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
I love how Scott tried to comment on the UFC's matchmaking for Kimbo.
by snakecharmer1340 on Jan 16, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Fucked up iphone
Let’s try this again.
How could they not be arguably the story of the year. They went from being a regional promotion doing four shows a year to be a national promotion doing 10 shows and putting the number one HW in the world on CBS. Don’t let your love of the UFC blind you to the fact that this was a major story.
by John Nash on Jan 15, 2010 11:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They did 8 shows in 2008, 10 shows in 2009. They made a horrible deal co-promoting in order to sign Fedor. We have seen how Fedor hurt Affliction. He wasn’t their only problem, but definitely one of their worst.
Just because a company over reaches and signs potentially bad deals, doesn’t mean they are the news story of the year.
Right now we are seeing huge growing pains from the company because they can’t handle the position they are in. They had one CBS show that did worse then previous CBS shows, despite MMA’s popularity being greater.
And how are they the biggest news story again?
Having a guy like Bobby Lashley fighting scrubs only furthers the proof that they aren’t doing a good job.
What makes you think they have overreached or made such bad deals – to the point where they fold? I’m serious, what makes you think their demise is foretold? Because they are not the UFC? Because they signed Fedor and will be copromoting with m-1 on 2 of next years 12 cards? Because they are supposedly going bankrupt overpaying Hendo?
by John Nash on Jan 16, 2010 1:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And what was a bigger story? The demise of Affliction? Fedor’s free agency? UFC 100? I think it can be argued that the rise of Strikeforce can be ranked with those stories.
by John Nash on Jan 16, 2010 1:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
1.72 Million PPV Buys is the big story of 2009. A number people would have laughed at even 1 year ago.
by Timmy B on Jan 16, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They don’t have the income to sport the pay levels they currently have for fighters like Fedor and Henderson. Those signings will also increase the rest of their payroll, which will create further issues down the road. I never said they would go out of business…. But Showtime is certainly sucking them dry, much like they did to EliteXC. They are certainly not “partners” as Dana White likes to call the companies he does business with.
Our readers voted SF’s signing of Fedor as story of the year, so it’s not some huge stretch.
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by Mike Fagan on Jan 16, 2010 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
there the size of a toonie!
HI YAH!
by Thats It For you! on Jan 16, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I understand where this is coming from. You don’t want Lashley facing an opponent he might actually lose to, losing his first major fight, and having his career destroyed like Lesnar’s was. If you want to be a household name like Andersen Silva, Machida or Fedor, you need to win a bunch of fights in a row. You can’t have your big draws suffering really embarrassing losses like Kimbo, Faber, Chuck, Tito, Randy, BJ and GSP all have. Remember when GSP’s career really started to take off? He tapped out to strikes from a fat lightweight and people lost interest in him. And, BJ was on his way to really becoming one of the UFC’s top draws, but then GSP beat the shit out of him for 20 minutes, made him quit on his stool, and now nobody buys his PPVs. Or, when Randy embarrassed both Tito and Chuck and stole all the thunder from a Tito-Chuck fight. I remember when Tito-Chuck I happened and people were like “why would I order a PPV to see two guys that Randy already beat the shit out of?” Don’t even get me started on what happened to the once mighty Kimbo after he lost to a LHW with pink hair and then lost his next fight to a fat guy.
by Jahbulon on Jan 16, 2010 12:05 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
One would think that it would be pretty easy to set Lashley up with a “can.” Lashley does have some name value, and I can imagine that some fighter out there needs an extra paycheck and the possibility of being the first to defeat Lashley. Obongo Humphrey or James “The Colossus” Thompson isn’t available?
Honestly
I don’t believe that his peers find him that imposing— that someone wouldn’t take the check (and air-time) to fight him. I feel pretty confident that Ambriz is still in the conversation.
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by Charles Awad on Jan 16, 2010 3:30 AM EST up reply actions
-k- guyz... i'm really gettin tired of this Bobby Lashley drama...
I am interested in seeing him fight…BUT….. iz he such a pre-madonna that Strikeforce can’t find him an opponent?….. i’m just about over lashley….and strikeforce…..
"If I told you I was good, you would think I am boasting. If I told you I was not good, you would know I am lying" Bruce Lee
Madonna Louise Ciccone …. Pre-Madonna
by Steve4192 on Jan 16, 2010 5:39 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Minowaman’s nemesis; he drinks from other fighters’ water bottles while they aren’t looking and gives them mono.
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by AJB on Jan 16, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He could....
Beat him at MMA and pro rasslin at the same time!
HI YAH!
by Thats It For you! on Jan 16, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Are all these late TBAs costing Strikeforce more money?
I guess what I’m wondering is by waiting to book fighters 2 weeks out from a fight is that giving those fighters more leverage in the negotiating process? I mean every fighter has to realize Strikeforce is probably getting desperate to lock down an opponent for Lashley so therefore any fighter contacted to fight him could easily add a few thousand to their asking price to fight him.
Just BE.
This is all Strikeforce's fault.
I know it seems to be cool to absolve Strikeforce of any wrongdoing at any time what so ever but this is 100% Strikeforce’s fault.
Strikeforce should quit announcing fighters on cards with TBA as their opponent. Strikeforce should have never announced Lashley as being on this card until they had signed bout agreements in their hand for the fight. If they did that then this debacle wouldn’t be happening. This wasn’t some late injury replacement problem either. This is what seems to standard operating procedure for Strikeforce and it isn’t fair to the fighters.
I keep hearing how being critical is helping the sport. Well someone needs to start being critical of Strikeforce because they need some help.
Just BE.
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