Dana White Says "Nobody Asked for Floyd Mayweather vs. What's His Name?"
by Nick Thomas on Sep 9, 2009 10:54 PM EDT
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dude dana is the man. words straight from the horses mouth. dana you couldnt be ANY MORE RIGHT. you know i love boxing but he is right mayweather talks down on mma too much and doesnt have the respect he should. i actually am going to watch the boxing match on a live stream on the 19th but no way in hell would i ever pick the boxing ppv over the mma ppv. you get your moneys worth with the ufc with boxing most the time its shit with a lot of drama and contraversy
i have to admit that Dana is right on on this one… no one asked for this fight and to pay 60bux for that? nope… but i sure do love watching the 24/7 series about the fight!
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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I love Dana.
But, you could also say “no one asked for this fight” for many of his main events as well.
by I Can't Feel My Face on Sep 9, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You could also say that they gave us a fight we didn’t ask for with Franklin-Hendo II, at least they were willing to give us something a little more exciting, you know?
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Sep 9, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
the hell are you talking about
message boards everywhere almost flat out revolted against hendo/franklin 2
and universally people said..if belfort was to debut we’d want it here
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 9, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
:/ my firefox posted twice
and now it wont let me delete
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 9, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He's saying....
That no one asked for it and when the UFC realized it, they changed it something that was better received.
by jacksiwel on Sep 9, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you could but Mayweather vs Marquez is billed as the biggest boxing fight of the year. UFC 103 isn’t. UFC 103 is also very significant in my opinion because it could see either Belfort or Franklin being major challengers at 185lbs and 205lbs respectively. Junior dos Santos vs Cro-cop – what a fight as well!
Well Marquez wanted Mayweather vs Marquez… and many Hispanic fight fans want to see him fight him as well. If White wants to marginalize the Hispanic market, fine.. they are among the most loyal and dedicated fans anywhere.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Word.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 9, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
this is true... i completely forgot of the mexican market...
but 60bux for one fight?
i think THAT is the ripoff.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
shooter/cutter for AllElbows.com
Actually three
And possibly an hour of a bunch of old men ramble on.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Nobody asked for Silva vs Lietes.
Thanks god it wasn’t the only fight, or there would’ve been a riot.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Dana is right, and I do respect that they scrapped Franklin/Hendo, but man do I agree about Silva/Leites. Nobody asked for that and nobody wanted to see it.
Chuck vs Shogun sold that PPV. I know thats why I bought it.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 9, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair
There weren’t that many intriguing middleweight match ups at the time, it’s not like Dana was sitting on the UFC equivalent of Mayweather/Pacquiao. They were probably hurting for a main event a the time and figured Silva would serve for a main event. A weak main event? Yeah, I don’t think they were expecting to break any records, but it was probably better than their alternatives.
That'd be annoying...
he’d act all indignant if a Don King or Bob Arum pulled that shit with Anderson Silva or GSP (a fair comparison as Ring has JMM as the #2 P4P fighter in the world)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 9, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I guarantee that Don King or Bob Arum would do just that
not because they wanted to do it on purpose but instead because they are ignorant. And there is a difference. It’s called marketing
Jaun Manuel Marquez
is NOT a ’what’s his name!!! :-)
Actually, it is....
I swear to you that if this fight wasn’t advertised on TV, I wouldn’t even know who Marquez was.
I’m not trying to be defensive, but Juan Manuel Marquez is a credit to boxing and combat sports in general, and Dana’s being insulting, especially considering he’s main eventing Rich Franklin this month, and I don’t mean to disrespect Rich Franklin, either. But it’s more of the same. If Mayweather-Marquez winds up beating UFC 103 on PPV, Dana will do the “boxing’s a different sport!” and if UFC wins the night, he’ll remind you that boxing is in big big trouble, man!
Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by Scott Christ on Sep 9, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
I'm not defending what Dana is doing...
but this is what Dana does.
"I would say that he’s a little donkey that, he’s on steroids, he thinks he’s a running horse. But, he’s more like a little pony." - Gegard Mousasi on Paulo Filho
Motha fricken REC'D!!!1
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 9, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you talking about? This PPV of “Money” is not to be compared to Franklin vs. Belfort. The card is pretty good even though it doesn’t have a belt on the line for the main event.
- Junior Dos Santos vs. Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic
- Paul Daley vs. Martin Kampmann*
- Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
- Hermes Franca vs. Tyson Griffin
This is on the main card and if we’re lucky we;ll be able to see some of these on the undercard:
PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)
* Efrain Escudero vs. Cole Miller
* Tomasz Drwal vs. Drew McFedries
PRELIMINARY CARD (Un-aired)
* Steve Lopez vs. Jim Miller
* Nick Lentz vs. Rafaello Oliveira
* Brian Foster vs. Rick Story*
* Jason Brilz vs. Eliot Marshall
* Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Igor Pokrajac
* Rafael dos Anjos vs. Rob Emerson
No contest IMO.
by BrandedToKill on Sep 9, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not so sure. Money/JMM is a pretty good fight. There’s also the Juarez/John rematch, Judah/Diaz, and Katsidis/Escobedo. For a boxing card, that’s pretty damn good top-to-bottom.
If Dana wasn’t worried about people watching this card, the above rant would have been wholly unnecessary. And Dana has a right to be worried, because this card could easily win the PPV battle on that night.
http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com
Exactly...
is’s actually a great boxing card.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 9, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Judah-Diaz is off because Judah punked out, but the other two fights are very, very good. Katsidis-Escobedo could be a war.
Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by Scott Christ on Sep 9, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
cool to see some boxing dudes in here.
by I Can't Feel My Face on Sep 9, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s right, I don’t know how I forgot about that, considering how much I enjoyed your skewering of Zab.
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The whole bit seemed a little contrived.
by casey manrique on Sep 9, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
you're being just as insulting to rich
you can’t trash dana for writing somebody off then do it yourself… i mean, obviously you can, and get 10 rec’s all the same but whatever
by cagefightonacid on Sep 10, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s not writing him off, he’s saying Franklin isn’t a compelling main event. And honestly, when was the last time he headlined a PPV that was much watch as far as UFC goes?
that’s exactly what dana said about marquez and mayweather; that pbf couldn’t sell unless it was vs. oscar… the last time he headlined a ppv that was a must watch? how about vs. belfort, or any of his past fights…. the last fight i remember not caring about was v.s. okami. this is just opinions, so it’s just how i feel.
by cagefightonacid on Sep 10, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Marquez is a very very very very good fighter. That said, if you asked me before the Mayweather/Marquez marketing machine was revved up, I wouldn’t have a CLUE who Marquez is.
I stopped Watching Boxing when Tyson stopped Boxing. I watched a little here and there like when Foreman shocked the world at age 46 in reclaiming the Heavyweight title or watch an overmatched Sugar Ray Leonard get the tar beat out of him by Hector “Macho” Camacho.
But all in all, Boxing is dead to me.
In all fairness...
It was boxing (meaning most fighters, announcers, and promoters) that started the shit talking war between the 2 sports. I’m a fan of both. And I was a little offended that Dana “Didn’t know” JMM’s name. IMO, JMM won that second fight with Manny and that’s why people should give him more credit fighting against PBF. I for one am excited for that fight as well as for UFC 103.
This whole thing is pretty much Lampley and Mayweather’s war. You have lots of MMA fighters who are now training and being accepted by respected and legendary boxing trainers. You also have boxers with more interest in MMA and some who are making the jump. This whole thing is just plain stupid honestly.
And “by this whole thing” I mean the back and forth shit talk between 2 great sports.
by poundnground on Sep 9, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
this “What’s His Name” dud defeat Mayweather and then fight Pacman, Im hoping this dude would win so that he would fight Pacman.
"I' Always Look Tired, I Play Possum" - Mark "The Hammer" Coleman
i hope you know they already fought… Twice, the first one was a controversial draw, which i though Marquez won, and Pacquiao got a close decision their second fight……him and pacman are very evenly matched-up, and im rooting for him to get a KO against mayweather…. and then well get to see Pacquiao-Marquez 3 and hopefully well find out who the better fighter is this time. Floyd didnt want to fight Pacman and thought JMM would be easier for him stylisticly… which is very wrong
Fedor vs Lesnar
Fedor vs Randy
Fedor vs Carwin
GSP vs Shields
GSP vs Silva
Mousasi vs Silva
BJ vs Aoki
Silva vs Machida
Mousasi vs Machida
Junie vs Roli Delgado II ( I keed)
Umm, where are these fights, Dana?
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 9, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Fedor vs Wang
GSP vs Jason Guida
Machida vs Abbott
Fucking Dana and your empty promises.
by poundnground on Sep 9, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Please name a MMA promoter who has given us MORE than Dana.
Please. Name 1. So I can ask about the match ups that did or didn’t happen. Fedor vs Zulu II coming soon…..
I know that but he acts like he gives us EVERY SINGLE FIGHT we want.
I just noticed that this video is straight up bootleg. That’s a digital background and theres editing in it. He sais at 1:31 “you guys (points at people) can all tune in” Who was he talking to and when and where was this video made? lol C’mon Dana, you are better than this!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
you can't be serious
how can you even get a rec for this? the dude busts his ass all day to get you those fights, mayweather chooses not to fight pac
by cagefightonacid on Sep 10, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
right, but if you really cared about putting on the fights the fans want… he wouldnt be black listing guys over a video game.
Is there any proof that he’s actually done this? I implore you to ask Randy and Trigg how Dana’s “black listing” of them is going…
by Screwface on Sep 10, 2009 3:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
am i the only human alive that thinks jmm has a decent shot at beating mayweather? pbf has not fought in over a year and 1/2. jmm has been keeping very busy ,trying to run down pac-man and pbf might just have some ring rust. war jmm!
MMA to Nascar
Cart racing to Boxing…
One for the most part is significantly bigger in the states( MMA/Nascar) while the other is significantly bigger as an overall sport( cartracing/Boxing).
One has more people watching in a consistant basis( MMA/Sprint/Bush series) due to media outlets and the other for the most part has the event of the year ( Indy 500, Boxing mega events GP/Mayweather, GP/Manny)
It isn’t that hard but it is clear that both group of fans have some inferiority and superority complex that hinders them from appreciating both sports for what they really are at the end of the day. Combat sport.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
man, Dana always ends up saying something real stupid, i mean he takes a couple god jabs at his opponents and then says something that makes him look like a giant moron….. …. “whats his name”?? were talking about one of the worlds best pound for pound boxers(always top 3), and to say something like that just makes him look unbeleivably stupid… my first love is boxing, i boxed for almost 4 years, but dont get me wrong, im going to be watchin UFC 103 not Mayweather-MARQUEZ, but to say “whats his name”? JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ has a bigger fan base than ANY ufc or MMA fighter….i mean to put down or disrespect a can is OK, but to refer to one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world as “whats his name” just makes dana look like a complete tool
"JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ has a bigger fan base than ANY ufc or MMA fighter"
I would say that is true amongst hispanic fans, but other than that, nope.
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Nice made up statistic.
The fact is that JMM averages around 300K-500K PPV buys for his fights, not 100 million. The guy is a legend in his sport, but he has nothing on Brock Lesnar when it comes to the number of people willing to pay to see him fight.
I just pulled the 100 million out of my ass, and I’m absolutely sure there is even more than that.
It was a response to someone talking about fan base, not ppv’s.
There MIGHT be 100 million people that have heard of JMM, sure.
by Screwface on Sep 10, 2009 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that's my point
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You do know that Dana knows who Mayweather’s opponents name is right?. He’s just having some fun and bs’ing just like Floyd did when he was running his mouth about the UFC earlier it’s nothing to get upset about really.
He's being disrespectful to Marquez is my issue...
Marquez is the #2 P4P boxer in the world (who will be getting outclassed by the much bigger fighter in Floyd) and has never done anything but fight his heart out. If Dana wants to take shots at Floyd…he needs to take his shots AT Floyd
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 10, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
THIS^
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 10, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this....somewhat.
There was no need to Diss JMM like that….
…UNLESS Dana was so into in his rant against Floyd that he had a brain-cramp and couldn’t remember Floyd’s opponent ’cause he really has a beef with Floyd, not anyone else.
Just saying..
and also marquez beat manny…. we all know this http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/Juan_Manuel_Marquez_vs._Manny_Pacquiao_(2nd_meeting)
If Marquez dares to beat Mayweather and Pacquiao beats Cotto. I see Pacquiao-Marquez III doing 1.5 million on Cinco de Mayo weekend.
honestly i was trying to think about that and i dont know which would do bigger. a trilogy fight between marquez/pacman on cinco de mayo or mayweather/pacman showdown on cinco de mayo. i know the hispanic fans would die to marquez knock out pacman on cinco de mayo everyone all drunk with their cervesas in the air and out of their seats at the same time i know a lot of hispanic people love pacman. i am hispanic and come from a half white half very very latino family and all of my family loves pac and says they would kill to see him knock out pbf.. on cinco de mayo it would be nuts
Dana White is a punk
JMM is more popular in Mexico then any MMA fighter by large margins. Pretending to not know who a warrior like JMM is , is just a punk move. I’m a MMA fan, but MMA fans make it hard to really love the sport. A sport in rich in history as boxing, a sport that has transcended sports many times, a sport that has represented Americas fight against Germany with Louis vs Schmelling , a sport that took a lead role in the civil rights movement is being belittled by these little MMA turds. This sport not only has arguable the greatest history out of any sport in the world, but it is a key part of American history. Stop shitting on boxing, it is a great sport with absolute warriors fighting in it.
Exactly. I am a fan of both sports. I don’t know why there needs to be a war between the two.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 10, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
And then we woke up.
And saw that things have changed.
Attitudes have changed.
Fighters have changed.
BOXING has changed….and not for the better. Remember back when Boxing was on the REGULAR CHANNELS almost everynight? Back before we had to pay to see any good fights?
Now we see Joe Shmoe go up against Louie the Plumber on ESPN or something…2 No-names. Oh Goodie.
MMA/UFC is the present and the FUTURE, as far as I’m concerned, of organized fighting.
Boxing will always have its rich history, Upstait, but all that history is just that…..HISTORY. We live for the here and now and right now, MMA/UFC is King.
UFC might be King in the US but worldwide its not even close. Boxing kills the UFC/MMA worldwide
Until MMA gets accepted rankings and uniform rules, MMA will be nothing but a sideshow to boxing on the world stage. And thats exactly what it is worldwide, a sideshow.
For all the people that are "hating" on Dana for not remembering JMM's name...
He didn’t say he was a nobody, he said he should know his name as a boxing fan, but no one wanted to see this fight. They wanted to see Pac v Mayweather.
As someone who loves MMA, and is just kinda meh since boxing has taking a nosedive over the past 10 years his criticism is absolutely legitimate. JMM is a hell of a fighter, but then again so is the guy they have fighting Brock next for the belt. I’m drawing a blank on his name as I write this, and I love MMA. It’s not a disrespect to him as a fighter, it is a valid point that no matter how good of a fighter JMM is he isn’t the name draw that Pac is, just like how Mir is a much bigger name draw even if other HW fighters might have a better chance at Lesnar than he does.
I didn’t take this as a diss on JMM as a fighter, I took it as a diss on boxing promoting in general which is one hundred precent true. This is one of the first boxing cards I’ve heard of in I don’t know how long that wasn’t one big fight and a bunch of trash., and even with its elevated status and the fact that UFC 103 isn’t exactly a marquee event I’d still say that UFC has more value in its PPV than boxing does.
You’ve got what feels like a hundred different belts, you’ve got fighters that seemingly only fight on 60$ PPVs with usually zero supporting fights, you’ve got fighers like Malignaggi being absolutely robbed by judging that makes MMA judging look like something sent by the divine, and you’ve got fights that they know everyone wants to see but refuse to make the match either because of one fighter ducking the other, or money issue, or whatever.
I might disagree with Dana on quite a few things, but this isn’t one of them. Boxing has been systematically screwing itself, and its fans for over a decade.
Criticising The promotiond and the fighter are 2 diferent things. Dana White as a former boxing gym owner and trainer knows who JMM is.
There is no question. He even has a competing fight going on the same night, you don’t think he knew the name of the fighter on top of the bill and purposely forgot it? It is a punk move made by a punk and it did nothing to help the promotion or hurt JMM’s. It was just a unnecasary slight to a great fighter.
In MMA there is diff belts also and no legit rankings system. I don’t know if know about the many organizations that operate throughout the world, but MMA makes boxing look like the NFL in organization , and boxing is a mess. There is no ranking system in MMA and rules vary from region to region. Can Fedor fight Brock Lesnar? And why not? Because of money and promoters, same as boxing. You might see the same thing one day in the LH’s. With Mousassi and Machida or Machida and Mo Lawal. As MMA gets bigger the same problems will pop up.
I’m a fan of both but ignorant attitudes make it hard to really embrace MMA. MMA has a long way to go to catch up to boxing worldwide in popularity and uniformity. A rankings system would be a nice start.
I know you aren't really a MMA fan...
But the USA Today/SBN ranking is pretty much exactly that, a ranking system. The difference between what you’re talking about as far as two fighters in different promotions not being able to fight, and what happens in boxing is leaps and bounds. There is essentially one promotion in the United States. It is the NFL to the USFL or Arena League to use the NFL analogy. The way MMA is structured currently the UFC is going to be the NFL/MLB of MMA. However, I’m getting sidetracked here.
If I couldn’t remember Carwin’s name yesterday and I’m an MMA fan then who are you to get pissy when someone that is a boxing fan can’t remember the name of JMM on the spot?
by Jacob Hayes on Sep 11, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
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