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Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: Randy Couture Gets Swept But Survives an Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Arm Triangle at UFC 102

In the second round, Nogueira swept Couture and got the mount position (via Tatame.com).

In the second round, Nogueira swept Couture and got the mount position (via Tatame.com).

In this installment of the Judo Chop, we'll talk about Round Two of this instant classic bout. I've written already on what an epic bout UFC 102's Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs Randy Couture was. Here's Kevin Iole talking about the back and forth drama of the bout:

Nogueira knocked Couture down about two minutes into the fight and then spent about a half-minute with a choke, trying for the submission. It was a pattern that would repeat itself throughout the fight.

The former UFC and PRIDE titleholder would get Couture in a compromising position, Couture would make a heroic escape to bring the crowd to its feet and then they'd go toe-to-toe for a while before the cycle started over.

Nogueira had to fight the inclination to get frustrated when nothing he was doing would result in a finish.

"I'd just try something else, a different submission, something different," Nogueira said. "I knew he was prepared to have a good fight. I knew it wouldn't be easy to fight Randy. When I got his back, he escaped. When I got the triangle, he escaped. He threw some very tough elbows. I knew it was a tough fight and I was prepared for that."

In the second round, Couture found himself in Nogueira's guard after foiling a guillotine attempt by the Brazilian. Couture's famous for his ground and pound game, but Nogueira's also known for having the most dangerous guard game in the heavyweight class. We'll talk about what happened in the full entry.

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Nog6_mediumWe'll start with Randy in Big Nog's guard, a little over three minutes left in the round. At this point, Nog had already won round one, but the second was still very much up in the air.

BE commenter AboveThisFire pointed out in the comments of the last Judo Chop that Randy is staying up high in Nogueira's guard in order to stay out of submissions and that this made his base less than perfectly balanced. Note that Nog's left arm is under Couture's right arm pit and wrapped around the back of Randy's head. This is called an underhook and Nog uses it to push Couture to Couture's left. This invites a response from Couture, but pushing back against Nog's pressure proved fatal.

As Nogueira bumps his hips to his left, he uses his left foot under Randy's right knee and his left arm under Couture's right elbow to prevent Randy from posting up and anchoring himself. With both of the limbs stabilizing Couture's right side compromised, Nogueira pushes up with his right thigh, down with his left thigh, and combined with Couture leaning that way in response to the pressure from the underhook is enough to roll Couture over. Nogueira talks about sweeps extensively in his manual on using the guard in MMA, repeatedly emphasizing the importance of getting your opponent to move in the direction you want to sweep and preventing them from posting up to stop the sweep.

Nog9_mediumNext we have the sequence that shows what Nogueira did with that top position. About 45 seconds after he reversed Couture, Randy has fought back to half-guard position. But Nogueira is going for the kill by securing an arm triangle choke.

He's got his left arm wrapped around Couture's neck and has Randy's left arm pinned against his own neck. At this point, with Couture's arm floundering helplessly above his head, all Nog needs to do is get his right leg free from Randy's half-guard.

Nog10_mediumOn the left we we see Nogueira get his leg free. But by the time he succeeds in getting clear of Couture's guard, Randy has curled his left arm so that his left hand is close to his ear. This opens up some space and keeps the blood flowing to his brain.

What Nogueira wants to do is get his left leg to Couture's left and start spinning so his body is perpendicular to Couture's. That angle will cut off the blood flow and force Randy to tap.

Nog11_mediumNext we see Nogueira coming as close as he gets to getting the tap out. He's got the arm triangle locked on, despite Couture's defensive positioning. But part-way through this gif we see Nogueira elect to release his grips and start using his right arm to batter Couture. He's trying to force Couture to make a mistake in positioning. Note how he keeps his head tight against Couture's arm.

Nog12_medium Here we see Couture escape from a locked-on submission by the deadliest submission artist in the history of the sport for the second time in as many rounds.

As Nogueira batters at Randy's flank with his right hand, he makes a crucial mistake and adjusts the position of his head. This is all Randy needs to snake his arm free of the trap and wrap it around the outside of Nog's head, thereby escaping danger.

Joe Rogan rightfully pointed out that the Portland crowd's roar of appreciation when their home-town hero got out of this deadly predicament was a testimony to their level of education as MMA fans. We've come a long way from the days when virtually all ground fighting was reflexively booed by American fans. Now enough have learned to appreciate the nuances of the ground game that a dramatic escape like Couture's is appreciated.

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gotta give it to Randy

I really felt that Nog would end up submitting him.

by orcus on Sep 7, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree!!

Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit.

by mma is #1 on Sep 7, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet JS, Nate. Mann what a dramatic fight- how many times did you genuinely feel Randy was finished-3?

"He hit like a bitch."

by SMC on Sep 7, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does Randy have a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or something? His escapes were nothing short of amazing considering how good Nog is on the ground. Not bad for an old man by any means.

for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.

by Bandaka on Sep 7, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no

I’m sure that’s all Drysdale’s help in bjj defense. Right before the fight I felt Randy didn’t get challenged enough in BJJ to make an argument that he’s hard to submit, I gotta take that back now :P

by orcus on Sep 7, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surviving in a grappling match with Jacare is worthy of a bjj blackbelt

At least by the standards of a lot of schools. Randy’s BJJ is probably up there with some of the other supposed black belts we see in the UFC.

by SES 84 on Sep 7, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Truth and Rec'd

"I would say that he’s a little donkey that, he’s on steroids, he thinks he’s a running horse. But, he’s more like a little pony." - Gegard Mousasi on Paulo Filho

by Deo Wade on Sep 7, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching it live

I didn’t understand how Randy seemingly got swept so easily in that instance. That was a “wow” moment for me, as I never expected that to happen in this fight. Had Randy not been rocked so early, i wonder if he would have made a more concerted effort to get to half-guard instead.

by rzor on Sep 7, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it was real surprising in the sense that you’d expect Randy to dominate the wrestling part of that fight , but that didn’t happen . Nogueira is just very good in sweeps he succeeded to do the same to Fedor near the end of the 1st round of their fight . But I don’t think that’s gonna work against Lesnar :(

by JoelMan on Sep 7, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Missed 1st Move

The sweep was actually set-up when Couture unbalanced himself throwing one of his signature shoulder punches, this time with his left shoulder. Couture had been in Big Nog’s guard for 30 – 45 seconds without ever really mounting any offense due to his staying very high in Nog’s guard. In fact he appered to be employing the same “head and wrists over chest” strategy GSP used in BJ Penn’s guard, however GSP had the body length and reach to mount an effective offnse from the guard, whereas Couture was just a tad shorter compared to his oppenent. (I know GSP then passed guard and did way more damage, but its a fairly basic GnP position while in your opponent’s guard.) From my viewing it was Randy throwing a shoulder punch which caused him to over extend and lose his solid base that allowed Big Nog to execute the sweep, and since such a strike is a signature Randy move then I would imagine Big Nog had trained for exactly this situation. Just makes it all the more impressive.

by pwrcartel on Sep 7, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good stuff

thanks

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by Kid Nate on Sep 7, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

very fun read as usual.

will we be seeing another judo chop for the third round?

by pop_gun_war on Sep 7, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's my goal

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by Kid Nate on Sep 7, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s purty.

I specializes in grammar fail.

by a tommy point on Sep 7, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and great post Nate. Been looking forward to this one.

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by a tommy point on Sep 7, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

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by Kid Nate on Sep 7, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

These are my favorite parts of Bloody Elbow! Keep it up, man.

by asa on Sep 7, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Renallo: Anything you'd like to add about Jake Shields, Frank?
Shamrock: He called me a dick.

by The Pope of Chilitown on Sep 7, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was screaming at the TV for Randy to get up as soon as he landed in Nog's guard.

And then he got swept and I figured it was over.

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by Llewdor on Sep 7, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t doing so well in the stand-up though, he didn’t have much choice I would have thought! Especially since that is where he wins most of his fights. Also, 3 round fight = getting on top is usually a good idea.

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by Well Read Idiot on Sep 8, 2009 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome fight, awesome analysis.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Sep 7, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My take on this arm triangle:

Nogueria is using the wrong grip to sub a guy like Couture, plain and simple. I think he underestimated Couture’s ability to survive the choke and chose a poor finish position on this one.

A normal arm triangle (see: Machida vs. Soko) involves the following steps (keep in mind it can be set up from bottom in guard or half guard, top in half guard, side control, mount, side mount, or side control):

1) Position an arm under the head of the opponent (or above it if you’re on the bottom)

2) On the opposite side of you opponent (the way your arm behind the head is pointing) drive your head under the arm pit and behind the tricep of your opponent.

3) Force the arm your head is behind across your opponent (ideally across the neck) driving it with your head while planting your face on the mat or if on bottom as high as you can get it across the back.

4) Using the free arm that isn’t behind your opponents head you need to create a bicep lock planting the hand that is behind the head onto the bicep of the arm that is free.

5) Apply pressure by closing the space between your elbows, driving your shoulder into the cross arm (this applies initial “squeeze”

6) Clock your body around to the opponents head essentially, keep as low to the ground as possible with a solid base and if you have to try to block the opponent from turning with you by stopping the hips.

7) Keep applying pressure, clocking around with close more space, ratcheting the choke and causing the tap or the nap.

Now, that’s a normal arm triangle, Nogueira sets up a straight mounted arm triangle trying to use a hand to hand grip and essentially just squeezing his shoulders and elbows in to cause the pressure, this works on a lot of guys but it really requires your points of pressure to be more exact because you’re spreading the pressure out and not allowing yourself to clock the choke. I believe Roan Carneiro just pulled the same move off and finished a fight with it, Eric Schaefer also used this type of arm triangle in a fight a while back. My instructor loves this type of arm triangle because you can use the inside shoulder to essentially smash the opponent down and take away their will to defend the choke, but it does have to be very well positioned.

Randy was able to defend this but it took a huge toll, you can’t really tell but while Randy is doing the combing the hair defense (answering the phone defense, whatever you want to call it haha) he’s already lost a lot of position, ideally you want to plant your hand against your cheek and drive your elbow out to create space, now he missed his shot at that so he went to the elbow up defense (combing the hair) what really sapped his energy is that you see his right hand planted on his left elbow (the trapped elbow) he’s actually pushing that out to allow for intermittent space to be created, that probly burned his right arm out something fierce, a very costly defense.

Now I think where Nog slipped up in the reposition is that he wanted to go for the bicep grip and tried to get that under head arm further across so he could lock that hand on his bicep but when he tried to slip his free shoulder lower he raised his head too much along the tricep and allowed Couture to bring it back and around.

All in all though, pretty damn nice attempt and very very tough defense by Couture.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by AboveThisFire on Sep 8, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

thanks for commenting!

I’m always blown away by the science you drop on these threads. Please continue to share your thoughts with us.
Nate

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by Kid Nate on Sep 8, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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