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The Week in Quotes: August 30th - September 5th

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THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME

"I do everything better than him, and I’m bigger than him and stronger than him!" - Jason "Mayhem" Miller, analyzing a rumored fight with Jake Shields.  (Cage Potato)

"He's the one that won't sign the contract." - Shields, bully beatdown. (Gracie Fighter)

"I don’t understand, people think that because he stomped out some 170-pounders and caught Robbie Lawler in a damn guillotine, that all of a sudden he’s the second coming of Christ." - Miller.  C'mon, everyone knows Jesus was a natural bantamweight.

"I think Jake Shields' ground game is overrated and I will be more then glad to end his win streak and take his belt away." - Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza, not wanting to miss out on the festivities. (AD Combat)

"And I also would like to send a message to the clown Jason Miller, you made a huge mistake to follow me into Strikeforce." - Souza, equal opportunity trash talk.

"When did I say that? That’s hilarious!" - Miller, when asked about calling Jacare a "poop" headed Brazilian.

"He must think he's Cung Le now." - Shields, none too pleased with Mayhem's foray into Hollywood.

Star-divide

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE

"Not really. Everybody talks about the UFC. I really respect the fighters in the UFC, and they are the biggest show in the United States, but to me everything is a business decision." - Miller.  I suppose hosting a show where complete rubes get beat up by professional fighters could be classified as a business decision too. (MMA Fanhouse)

"It's like this: Would you want to work for the best car company, but work for free? Would you want to be a waiter at the best restaurant but you never get any tips? Of course not." - Miller, with the grace, eloquence, and logic of a Bloody Elbow commenter.

"On top of that, I'm in the EA Sports video game, and I heard Dana White said that if you're in that video game you can never be in the UFC." - Miller

"Of course. Is that a secret? Is that something people don't realize?" - Miller, when asked if he thought the UFC "strongarms" fighters into signing deals.

SWIMMING UPSTREAM

"I am embarrassed to admit that my first thought was that, 'If he cut me and I can't go back to England, this is not worth it.'" - Sean Salmon, detailing his mindset during a fight that he claims to have thrown in order to stay healthy enough to - get this - train at the Wolfslair in the UK. (MMA Junkie)

"He went for an armbar, I defended it (only to prove to myself that he couldn't get it), and then I put my arm back in to give him the win so that I could return to England, healthy." - Salmon.  If you're throwing a fight, do you really need to defend the armbar to "prove" that you could?

"Just so you all know, that is the most embarrassing thing that I have ever admitted out loud." - Salmon.  Mine?  I enjoy watching What Not to Wear.

OHHHHHHH DREAM CATCHER I BELIEVE YOU CAN GET ME THROUGH THE NIIIIIGHT

"My friend came up with (the Dreamcatcher), so blame it on him." - Strikeforce light heavyweight champ Gegard Mousasi, detailing the origins of his unfortunate nickname. (Cage Writer)

"I don't like nicknames, to be honest. I have a lot of nicknames." - Mousasi.  The irony.

"I told Strikeforce that I didn't want to use a nickname, but they put it up anyway." - Mousasi.  Maybe he can use the belt to leverage his position a bit?

ONE...TWO...FIVE!  THREE, SIR!  THREE!

"I was saying [last week] I wish this was a five-round fight, Nogueira and Couture, and there's been other fights, too, that I've wished were five rounds." - UFC President Dana White.  The Nevada State Athletic Commission recently opened up the door allowing five round non-title fights. (MMA Junkie)

"But I'm a purist, man. Title fights are five rounds." - White.  A purist?  PURIST?  All you "purists" out there, please explain what the fuck a "purist" is.  Also, the sport's not even twenty years old, and the current rules haven't even been around for a decade. 

"But, I think that's what's so special about fighting for the title. You fight for the title, and it's a five-round fight; you don't, it's a three-round fight." - White.  Is this some inherent truth about the universe that I'm not aware of?  Because this is a completely arbitrary situation that could very easily be rectified.

PARTING SHOTS

"I got foot swept while sparring this week and lost my legs." - Mike Swick, pulling out of UFC 103 because of missing limbs. (Twitter)

"He’s not sitting around thinking about how him and his mom used to watch the fucking Love Boat together and he wants to get the role of Isaac the bartender." - Dana White, reacting to the news that Quinton Jackson is taking the role of B.A. Baracus in the new A-Team movie.  (MMA Torch)

"Just on that, I can kinda set him up for a knockout just by faking an injury or something, just jump in and out his offense a little more than not." - Brett Rogers.  Not gonna need much acting on that injury. (Sherdog)

"For some reason, God prepares surprises for you, and that’s life." - Demian Maia.  Pretty painful surprise. (Sherdog)

"I don't like just to watch fights without thinking non-emotionally about it. I really like to worry, and be involved emotionally and worry about someone I know, and to help them." - Best fighter in the history of mankind and all-around swell guy Fedor Emelianenko. (Cage Writer)

"He's full of shit. He looked like he weighed about 250." - Dana White, on a bet with Chuck Liddell.  Liddell needs to get under 215 by the middle of the month. (MMA Junkie)

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f**k Sean Salmon for throwing a fight

That is the last thing mma needs.

I’m with Dana.I prefer Title fights be 5 rounds and non-title fights be 3.

Also I said this before but Mayhem Miller is only trash talking the UFC becuase they wont pony up a lot of cash for him. If Dana gave Mayhem Brock type money he would be like a dog and listen to any and all commnads.

by bigdmmafan on Sep 6, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“On top of that, I’m in the EA Sports video game, and I heard Dana White said that if you’re in that video game you can never be in the UFC.” – Miller

I’m not sure if it’s the lack of sleep, or influx of alcohol flowing through my veins, but I’ve never laughed so hard at a quote.

by Huggies on Sep 6, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

combo of the two

by cagefightonacid on Sep 6, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A purist is one who desires that an item remain true to its essence and free from adulterating or diluting influences.

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 6, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure Mike knows what a purist is, he’s saying it’s silly to use it in the context of a sport that has been around for such a short time and has used the current set of rules for less than a decade.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Sep 6, 2009 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Where do you see anything about age

in that definition?

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 6, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you should

ask him to write out the context of everything ever in brackets next to it if you cant read into something

"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"

by blubber_guard on Sep 6, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you should

look into punctuation

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 6, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course i should

that would be the perfect solution.

"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"

by blubber_guard on Sep 6, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It couldn’t hurt.

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 6, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

hate to be buzz kill but..

Also, the sport’s not even twenty years old, and the current rules haven’t even been around for a decade.

"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"

by blubber_guard on Sep 6, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh boy

The best part is, you think you’re correcting MY moronic mistake.

I wish I could see the look of embarrassment on your face when comprehension finally sets in.

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 6, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s argued with me over some of my more simplistic posts, too. Kinda sad, actually.

by Screwface on Sep 6, 2009 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone else completely confused with what’s going on in this exchange?

Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on Sep 6, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am...

Something about a definition, a buzz kill, 20 years, a moron, and somewhere along the line someone brought up making a cheese sandwich.

"He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They've been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes." - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko

by Deo Wade on Sep 6, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luckily I have my moron to english translator handy

So I can elucidate.

Blubber guard saw me say “where in this definition do you see anything about time?”

Apparently not knowing what “definition” means, he goes and pulls out a mention of time from the article we are discussing.

Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains. Fade to black.

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 6, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paynuss summed it up nicely. And I simply added that he’s trolled me a couple of times, too.

by Screwface on Sep 6, 2009 10:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Just when I think I have learned my lesson....

I peak at the comments section of a piece and I am totally frustrated and let down by by the stupid shit i find.

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Sep 7, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you arguing that it is the essence of the sport to have 3 round title fights?

by naturalist on Sep 6, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

But I would argue that Dana White seems to think so.

I actually disagree with Dana completely. My argument was 100% semantic.

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 6, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, actually no

now I fucked up. redo.

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 6, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t you ever read something and think to yourself, “I really don’t need to make a comment about everything i read on this site.”????

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Sep 7, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would put the ORLY? pic but I’m lazy.

You don't look like a Tanaka.

by spectaa on Sep 6, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Dana calls himself a purist, well, I don’t know what the hell ever he might mean. Most “purists” on Sherdog, for example, seem to be the guys who think MMA should allow nut shots, head butts, soccer kicks, eye gouges, biting, brass knuckles, two-handed swords, flame throwers and suitcase nukes – because “hey, it’s a fight!”

by lhasafi on Sep 7, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're vale tudo purists

Dana is apparently a current status quo purist.

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 7, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think...

He[blubber_guard] is saying that due to the age of the UFC, and it’s ruleset, it hasn’t actually matured an ‘essence’ or ‘true form’ of UFC/MMA fighting, and therefore a purist form of fighting doesn’t actually exist yet, irrelevant of what Paynuss’ definition of ‘purist’ means.

Sure Dana can say “I’m a purist” but essentially, you’re being a purist (Or say, a traditionalist) in an ever-changing and evolving sport, and that doesn’t make sense.

"Hello, Japan"

by rembrandt on Sep 6, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Dana. Non-title fights -3 rounds, title fights -5 rounds.

by Hardcase on Sep 6, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Shields/Jacare/Miller feud is one of the hottest things that Strikeforce has going for them right now.

by chrisbboy82 on Sep 6, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sad

if true

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Sep 6, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

And sad.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Sep 6, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sad but not entirely true..

they’ve got the shields/jacare/mayhem love triangle, but they also have Fedor.. so that’s two things..

Diaz also, if it wasn’t for that missed drug test.

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 7, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He said one of.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Sep 7, 2009 7:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I think Souza would beat Shields.

for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.

by Bandaka on Sep 7, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“It’s like this: Would you want to work for the best car company, but work for free? Would you want to be a waiter at the best restaurant but you never get any tips? Of course not.” – Miller, with the grace, eloquence, and logic of a Bloody Elbow commenter.

:( That hurts me Mike.

by Shaun32887 on Sep 7, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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