I’m liking Carwin more and more

In the grand scheme of things I really don’t think that Fedor fighting Werdum, Overeem and even Rogers is much worse than him fighting 3 UFC heeavyweights. Not that I wouldn’t like to see him in the octagon.

Correct me if I am mistaken, but wasn’t AA considered an elite Mixed Martial Artisit?

The weird thing about this is that Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski, given their standing at the time, were both higher-ranked fighters than many Fedor fought during his “epic” PRIDE run—Kazuyuki Fujita, Gary Goodridge, Naoya Ogawa, and of course the infamous Zulu bout come to mind.

I mean, Fedor’s post-PRIDE days might be the only period in which he fought two top-10 heavyweights consecutively since Heath Herring and Minotauro back in 2002/2003.

Seems like a weird period to pick on him for.

(Plus, I’ve gotta chuckle at the characterization of Cain Velasquez as “elite.” Apparently all it takes is beating Cheick Kongo. Is present-day Heath Herring elite too?)

it’s a bit silly. Tho to be fair, I would expect a UFC fighter to say nothing else. Denigrate the people in other orgs while pumping up the one you are in = making the boss happy.

You’d never see anyone working for Microsoft who hopes to reach the top and stay in good graces say, “Firefox is better, I use it.”.

The Fiodor Case is getting god damn boring. Same sh*t again and again.

fedor is a beast and just because werdum, overeem, and rogers aint in the ufc. dont act like there not top competition. plus strikeforce’s deal with dream can add many more hw’s like bigfoot, sapp, that dude that beat him in sambo and top free agent proscpects like king mo and bobby lashley..

The Engineer of Fear is right.

He’s definitely the best HW out there still in my mind, but Carwain is right. Fedor is not marketable right now, no one in North America besides hardcores gives a damn about him. M-1 has nothing besides Fedor, and they need that gravy train going. Everything is riding on Fedor being unbeaten. If he loses before they get a chance to really cement him with the casual fans, they’re screwed, cause the UFC hype machine is against them, and no one else in North America (besides Strikeforce) is a viable national promotion. Everything is riding on his invincibility.

Fedor comes to the UFC for one reason and one reason only attempt to take his #1 ranking back from Brock once his stint from Strikeforce is over.

the problem with Carwins remarks (which I’m sure he never intended for mass publi consumption) is that he suggess that Fedor’s management’s prime concern is to set him up with none elite competition. He also suggests that Fedor should be just as willing as him to sign at fight for the UFC and not hold out for co promotion.
Taking the 1st point regarding level of competition. Sylvia, Arlovski, and Barnette were easily all top ten HW’s at the time of booking those fights. Obviosuly, this is a for profit business so they had to find fighters with big names too. The point being , they were trying to find the best AVAILABLE competition . As far as “ridiculous terms” and “being honered” to fight in the UFC. The fact is Fedor comes to the table with a lot more than Shane Carwin. He has a right to ask for what appear ridiculous to some fighters if he wants to. I love ya Shane but , there’s probably nothing good going to come from criticing Fedor’s career business decisions. ON the other hand it may have just earned him a nice bonus

Well then, Carwin and Brock should sign with Strikeforce and fight him then.
Well see how protected his legacy is.

=)

Basically, he’s saying that he and Cain are world class but Sylva and AA weren’t at the time of fighting, Barnette wasn’t at the time of booking, and Rogers currently isn’t. I guess he doesn’t realize that he and Rogers have very similiar careers. Does anyone think the fight would have continued as it did if it was Rogers cracking Carwin in the nose and not Gonazaga. I know it’s acheap shot but I just dont see why he’s suggesting that he’s fighting world class people and Fedor isn’t.

you’re right , i just thought i saw him twitching a little

String together a couple meaningful wins before talking about Fedor, who is so far ahead of that jagoff. Brock will lay him out. If I’m wrong, then so be it, but to me his win over GG wasn’t that impressive considering he was getting spanked before that heavy shot he landed. This is the same GG that Werdum beat down. He holds one win over a top 20 fighter and a bunch of cans and he calls Fedor’s credibility in to question? Gimme a break. I hope Brock teaches him a lesson. By the way, at least Rodgers has a win over a top 10 fighter. No one cuts him any slack, but Carwin is the 2nd coming? We’ll see, but I doubt it and think he should remind himself he is nothing more than a prospect. His #1 contender status is a bit of a joke if you ask me. Nog will sub him easily and I think is more deserving of a shot.

I stand by my STFU comment as he acts like he’s Mr. Classy, trashing Brock’s antics, while he throws disparaging remarks at a bonafide legend in Fedor when he’s still a relative unknown. If you want to be Mr. Classy, show some respect for athletes who’ve earned it. I think he’s too big for his britches and Brock will KO him in 1 rd. Fedor would sub him in 1, Nog inside of 3. If and when he stacks up some credible wins, I’ll gladly STFU.

No, maybe say “Fedor fought Timmay, AA and was signed to fight Barnett, so I’d say he’s fighting some of the most accomplished HWs in MMA. I wish he were in the UFC and maybe someday he will be so if I’m still in the hunt, I can show him what I’m all about.” That would be what I’d expect a prospect, who has been critical of the current UFC Champ and the GOAT to say.