Mike Swick Injured, out of UFC 103; Paul Daley to Be Replacement Against Martin Kampmann
by Michael Rome on Sep 4, 2009 1:44 PM EDT
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According to the UK Sun, Mike Swick injured himself in training, and has been forced to withdraw from UFC 103:
Kos swept the American--nicknamed "Quick," causing him to land on his head. His injuries are not serious but we can reveal he will be unable to face Martin Kampmann on September 19th...instead, rising British star Paul 'Semtex' Daley will step in to face the Dutchman on the televised card.
I know the natural inclination is to doubt this because it comes from the Sun, but the piece has quotes from Paul Daley and Marshall Zelaznik (head of UFC Europe) confirming the change. Here is Paul Daley:
"I got the call and I accepted. I came to the UFC to fight the best, and that's what I am going to do. Kampmann is on a roll with the UFC, but I will roll over him."
Marshall Zelaznik had the following comment on Daley's opportunity:
"He was asked to step up and, real fighter that he is, he accepted right away. He's already done the UK proud by stepping up and I know he's going to go all out to do exactly the same at UFC 103."
Hype aside, this is a serious setback for the welterweight division if true. There were already serious questions over whether Swick vs. Kampmann would really produce a legitimate contender for Georges St. Pierre, and now the fight has been downgraded significantly. I still believe Kampmann will get his shot if he wins, because they have nothing else at 170. If Paul Daley wins they are going to have to make some really hard choices.
This is the issue in a division so thoroughly dominated by one fighter. You can try to close your eyes and pretend fights like Kampmann vs. Swick will provide a big fight for GSP, but there are injuries in this sport, and if you only have 2 or 3 guys that are yet to have been crushed by the champion, an injury to any of them is a huge setback.
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whoa
sucks for swick. daley’s gonna have his work cut out for him too.
wonder what this means for the ww contender situation. kampmann still get the shot if he wins?
by woooburn on Sep 4, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With GSP recovering from injury, I personally don’t think that there is this huge ‘rush’ to get a Welterweight contender. This is a way for the UFC NOT to have two contenders fighting each other and having one of them getting eliminated from contention. Personally, I was interested in seeing Swick vs GSP even though I think that GSP would win. These guys can now fight the winner of Johnson vs Yoshida, Hazelett vs Parysian, or Kim vs Hardy and have the Welterweight Division sort itself out.
by chrisbboy82 on Sep 4, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually don’t know how GSP’s recovery is coming along, so the UFC may actually need a Welterweight title contender sooner rather than later.
by chrisbboy82 on Sep 4, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swick wasn’t getting past Kampmann.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 4, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t know. The problem with Martin Kampmann, while being a solid striker, is that he leaves himself wide open for counters. Swick may have been able to actually punch with him and beat him standing.
Of course, I’m biased to Kampmann though, so I want to believe what you say as fact.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though it may not be the most technical at times, Swick’s punches have a way of getting around/through and landing with power. He has had some very good moments of controlled aggression.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just not a fan of the Swick hype, so it’s not necessarily Swick’s fault that I’m not a huge fan. He was deemed a potential contender by some people and he even said he wanted a title shot after he beat…. wait for it….. wait for it…. GOULET!
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goulet is not good. But I’m not sure where all of this Kampmann love comes from either.
He’s a solid, well rounded fighter but doesn’t particularly excel at anything. I have doubts about his ability to control a fight, do a significant amount of damage, or to finish when facing top level WWs. Sort of like a smaller version of Forrest.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he fought a good fight against condit. a former champion
by JaTinkles on Sep 5, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a blessing for you cause it sounds like you were about ready to lose some money on that fight
by naturalist on Sep 4, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While it is greatly possible, there is nothing in Kampmann’s arsenal that shows me anything definitive that will beat Swick. Looking at the facets of the game, there is nothing that I personally see that Kampmann has a huge edge on Swick.
by chrisbboy82 on Sep 4, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is even worse for an already sad situation
It was bad enough that the UFC was going to start the wheels rolling with substandard competition for GSP (ala Anderson vs Cote/Leites), by declaring the winner of a Swick/Kampmann the next Challenger… So, now who will be packaged as the next dominated bum?. I just don’t see anything good for GSP in the welterweight division except a padded record. I don’t know why he doesn’t start heading up(to MW) already. Does he want gimme fights?, really?. Aside from Jake Shields, does anyone think there is a challenge for GSP worth paying 54.95 to see?. I don’t
by PaddyRite on Sep 4, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Kampmann somehow loses, I garuntee the UFC will try to fast track Condit to title contention.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I use the term garuntee loosely btw. lol
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kampmann just beat Condit. If Kampmann loses, I doubt they can sell a guy whose only UFC fight was a loss to another recent loser.
He was unable to do anything about Kampmann’s wrestling and top control. GSP might need to lose an arm and a leg for Condit to beat him.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was an incredibly close fight though.
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by Beer Monster on Sep 4, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Condit has a pretty easy fight lined up…so he’ll have a very close fight against a tough opponent, and a win. He’s the former WEC welterweight champ, and has a young marketable personality.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think people would buy that. Anyone vs. GSP is such a stretch right now.
May as well put Alves back in there over Condit.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unable to do anything? I disagree. That fight was very, very close, and Condit was able to reverse Kampmann a couple of times. Late in the fight, Condit wasn’t able to do much against the top game though.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn’t FighMetric score it a draw?
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by lovingmma25 on Sep 4, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, late in the fight is more what I was focusing on. He was doing well through 2 – I had the first two rounds split with a slight edge to Condit.
But spending essentially the entire 3rd round on his back/getting up to get taken back down was a good way to give away what was a winnable fight.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Condit was tired. I’d rather compare when both guys are fresh. Kampmann got a second wind while Condit just really wasn’t all there in the third.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That has been the book on Condit for a while though. He’s always been tall and lanky. Though he’s filled out somewhat it still seems that his strength/conditioning are still somewhat lacking (in comparison to the elite)..
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you mean you use the term “guarantee” loosely?
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by ufc4 on Sep 4, 2009 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
What if Rumble puts Yoshida down spectacularly?
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Then it’ll be the first time he’s beaten anyone decent.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 4, 2009 2:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Still, they could sell that fight with the prospect taking a big leap in competition.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Kampmann will get a shot with a win over Daley. But where else do they go? Wait for the winner of Fitch/Almeida?
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by Beer Monster on Sep 4, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s a good start. This may be a way for Fitch to get his way back into the talk of a rematch with GSP.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its going to be a grappling session, so, I don’t see it happening yet.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 4, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But does Fitch really have that good a chance the second time around?
Still, I’d like to see Fitch against Kampmann. Or Condit!
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by ihateemo on Sep 4, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does ANYONE have a good chance against GSP?
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The person who has a chance against is probably still high school
by The Bronzeville Bully on Sep 4, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.... but he isn't in the UFC
Jake Shields is probably the only guy at 170 that would pose a challenge. He has been languishing his good years away with sub par challenges like Fedor at the pace of 1 fight year. I don’t understand why the UFC is signing up long in the tooths(couture, hughes, coleman)and perennial underachievers like Baroni, Hallman, Trigg and Ortiz but can’t manage to get one good opponent for one of their P4P fighters.
by PaddyRite on Sep 4, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shields would get absolutely tooled by St. Pierre.
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by Richard Wade on Sep 4, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, no… he probably doesn’t… but other than creating Silva vs. GSP superfight to create some time for someone to step up, there isn’t really any other options.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This should still be an exciting fight, thats what we should be happy about. lol
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends. Kampmann could actually win this without striking, although I’m somewhat a fan of Daley. Daley has improved greatly over his past few fights, even though he lost some, in his ground game. He has managed to at least get stronger off his back, but Kampmann has a much better understanding of how to crush people while in top control.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Daley wins, Shields will be smiling.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 4, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll be smiling outside the UFC, stuck in purgatory (cough Strikeforce cough)
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well this sucks, although the winner of swick/kampmann wouldnt really be a big test for gsp it was at least a ligitmate top contender fight. Now do they give fitch a rematch already if he beats almeida?
by brazary on Sep 4, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They need GSP fighting by January anyway.
It’ll either be Kampmann if he wins, or maybe Johnson if he wins and Daley wins. Maybe they’ll pray Almeida wins.
by Michael Rome on Sep 4, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why rush AJ? Not too long ago he Kevin Burns was giving him a tough fight then we throw him to GSP the same year?
Almeida actually said he wouldn’t like to fight GSP. I wonder what happens when the opportunity presents itself.
by gunranger on Sep 4, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rumble has more of a chance of winning than Kampmann and he has a good chance of impressing even in a loss.
GSP is technically superior and his transitions are seamless, but Johnson is physically superior.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he’s not. He will get completely destroyed, but at this point what are the better options? Physically superior when he tends to gas mid round regularly? Please.
by Michael Rome on Sep 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s comparable right now with more upside than GSP. Even if you did consider GSP to be better, Rumble is a clear #2.
GSP obviously has a legendary gas tank, I don’t think anyone beats him there. But you can’t discount Johnson’s natural physical advantages. He has top notch speed, strength, and explosiveness to boot. At 6’2" with a 78" reach, he has immense KO power and potential. Anderson has shown that when guys get hit at a range where they feel safe, they get stunned easily. Johnson just doesn’t have the experience to be fluid with his striking yet but his upside is off the charts.
Over the first couple of rounds, Rumble would be quite a test athletically for GSP. Rounds 3-5 are GSPs bread and butter though. But even if Johnson were to gas, he would still retain some KO potential late in the fight (assuming he could land something and wasn’t totally confused – no small feat).
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is ridiculous.
I dislike Matt Hughes.
by MonkeyCHops on Sep 4, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I highly doubt it.
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by pud333 on Sep 4, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are out of your mind.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now, Kampmann is a better fighter than Johnson.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 4, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We haven’t seen Kampmann in 5 months or Johnson in 7.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We haven’t seen Fedor in almost 9 months and I’m comfortable saying he’s better than any other heavyweight.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 4, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
While I agree, I think Johnson vs. Kampmann would be pretty awesome to set up.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being comfortable and correct are two different things.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever. The point is that “not seeing them” in X months is a really weird thing to say.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 4, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I gotta agree with Rome here. He’s not physically superior. GSP is the end all in the Welterweight division in terms of power and explosiveness. The only way I see Rumble winning is via his unexpected striking. He could throw a twisting elbow and catch GSP or something, but I doub it.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Johnson was GSP’s height, I might agree. But Johnson has a freakish frame – different than but still similar to Anderson Silva. And he combines that tall/long frame with the ability to wrestle which is usually the weakness of taller fighters.
GSP is the only fighter capable of going full-bore for 25 minutes at a furious pace, while Johnson does tend to slow somewhat. But on the other side, Johnson is capable of doing some spectacular damage in bursts that GSP simply cannot match. GSP will never have crumbling power in his hands, while Johnson clearly does. GSP would have beaten Burns easily had they fought, but would never have been able to finish him like Johnson did.
If Matt Serra at 5’6" could hit GSP, I think Johnson at 6’2" with a 78" reach certainly could tag GSP. Thiago Alves’ also had a problem with his reach vs. GSP as he couldnt’ keep GSP on the outside when he needed to.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slow down somewhat is an understatement. Johnson gasses, and GSP would only make that limit come much quicker. GSP doesn’t need the crumbling power in his hands as he can probably take down Johnson.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, we are mixing thoughts somewhat.
I feel that Johnson is a comparable physical specimen to GSP.
- You disagree, stating that GSP would beat Johnson a majority of the time. But whether GSP would beat AJ right now cannot be used as a proxy to determine who has the stronger physical traits. GSP is years ahead of Johnson in terms of skills and experience. If they were similarly skilled fighters, that argument might be more appropriate.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we all know who the TRUE #1 contender is:
by woooburn on Sep 4, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
What’s his record? 15-13? Very worthy of a title shot
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Records don’t mean shit to him, in his head, he is P4P the best EVAH.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 4, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn’t factor in the fact that he’s the best eva.
by Phildo on Sep 4, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You notice he never states what he’s the best eva at.
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s the best at being the best.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 4, 2009 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
That definitely sounds like something he’d say.
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s the best around, nothings ever gonna get him down.
by VegasBatman on Sep 4, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was being the man. Is there anything more important?
by Phildo on Sep 4, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smack-talking nerds.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the word nerd sounds a lot funnier if you pronounce it nherd
by amadeus on Sep 4, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kind of like in Hot Rod, Andy Samburg saying Whiskey
by amadeus on Sep 4, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the safe word didnt help
“I’m fuckin pumped, i’ve been drinking green tea all goddamn day!”
god that movie is hysterical
by amadeus on Sep 4, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
13-11 Actually, but he is the greatest fighter to ever compete, just ask him he will tell ya.
by TearsofaClown on Sep 4, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC already has him being fed to Sodallah
by PaddyRite on Sep 4, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if Amir loses. There goes that TUF season.
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fed isn't the right word...
Because Baroni’s cardio has improved, and he’s still pretty physically overpowering in the early minutes of fights. He could KO Sadollah inside two minutes if Amir isn’t careful.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was still done. He was trembling on the floor trying to get up.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kampmann isn’t a lock in this fight either. He likes to trade, and Daley is dangerous standing.
by Michael Rome on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kampmann loses
Almeida loses
Rumble loses
Who the hell is GSP going to fight if that scenario plays out?
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Condit.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After coming off a loss? Imagine if Ellenberger wins!!!
I’m sort of hoping for this to happen. All the chaos
by gunranger on Sep 4, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Condit wins, and all the above lose, he’s the only one the UFC can spin into actually being a “contender”. It’s sooner than I’d like the fight to happen, but I love when Condit fights, so make it happen.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could end up spinning in a Silva. vs GSP superfight if all else fails.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have absolutely no interest in seeing this fight. I’ve tried to get excited about it, but Anderson is just so friggin’ huge and so friggin’ Anderson… I just can’t get excited about it.
by woomikee on Sep 4, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible fight. Condit will get snapped in half.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fitch has also won 2 fights in pretty smothering fashion.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Fitch’s problem, he can’t put together an explosive win. If he KO’ed almeida or something it would help, but if he keeps having grinding grappling matches he isn’t going to get a rematch.
by Michael Rome on Sep 4, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, and it’s bad because Fitch isn’t bad on the feet, it’s just his style…
Oh well.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. He does need to show some dynamic ability since GSP has already shown he can run circles around Fitch in the grinding/control arena. We’re grasping at straws here though, so as long as he doesn’t lose he will be in the mix.
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea Fitch knows it, you saw him apologizing to Dana for not able to finish Thiago. he knows he has to win in an impressive fashion
by The Bronzeville Bully on Sep 4, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Fitch is GSP lite when it comes to grappling.
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by pud333 on Sep 4, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the casuals will eat it up. Of course, in the end I will too…especially if BJ keeps looking good.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he whomps Diego and noone impresses, I wouldn’t rule it out. I would probably call for it then too.
BJ Marinovich!!!
by bigweeze on Sep 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if that happens if GSP will stick by his word and wear a rash guard.
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by The Legend on Sep 4, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be humorous.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to see it, but it’s not beyond the realm of reason.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ 3 will be awesome. Imagine if BJ wins!
by gunranger on Sep 4, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My imagination isn’t good enough to picture BJ winning that fight. Sorry.
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by kyfm621 on Sep 4, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Georges no grease this time okay”
“Dis guy he really cross da line”
Yeah well you cheated"
“See you in da ospital BJ”
by gunranger on Sep 4, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if an Pluto strikes the Earth. Just because I can think about doesn’t mean it’s going to happen EVER
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you meant puto. Imagine if A PUTO strikes earth!
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like Rampage won in his 3rd fight against Silva – I’m down for that
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by lovingmma25 on Sep 4, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, im not dying to see it either… but if the situation presents itself. 3rd fight in an outdoor stadium in hawaii?
by woooburn on Sep 4, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bj’s mom would never allow it sadly, he could get a cold or something.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 4, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or better yet, Diego
I dislike Matt Hughes.
by MonkeyCHops on Sep 4, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Kampmann is smart, he’ll take Daley to the ground where he has deficiencies in the area. I don’t see him having a chance against him on the feet.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Sep 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit
Kos finds a way to piss me off again.
by Shaun32887 on Sep 4, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Way to go, Kos. Now your buddy will probably start from square one ala Okami (Maybe).
by dv8shun on Sep 4, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
Swick’s explosive style will always keep him in contention as long as he can keep winning. With the exception of the Burkman fiasco, Swick is always fun to watch. He is the anti-Okami.
by Steve4192 on Sep 4, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought his fight with Davis was pretty weak, too. I’d like to see Swick put away someone in dominant fashion that isn’t sub top-10.
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by ihateemo on Sep 4, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people feel that way, and to be honest… I think Swick is rather overrated. The Goulet KO means he’s suddenly unbelievable? Go get Danny Lafever out of retirement.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah and he went beat a prospect in Ben saunders. I think ben can be a foce in a few years, maybe im bias because im a fan.
by Riley_96 on Sep 4, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree
Swick hasn’t impressed me in awhile, especially at welterweight. He had a complete borefest against Burkman. The Davis fight wasn’t pretty to watch either. Then he KO’s Goulet, a fight tailor-made for him and then KO’s a prospect in Ben Saunders. Sorry but I haven’t been impressed and he’s not a guy that when I see his name on the card I think “this is a must-see fight.”
by filipinomix2oo0 on Sep 4, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was my favorite fight on the card.
by Nick Thomas on Sep 4, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Akiyama drops to 170, straight into a title shot. Ohhh yeah.
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by Beer Monster on Sep 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
LOL, wow.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be too much sexy for my girlfriendme to handle
by kid_eh on Sep 4, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by themachiavellian on Sep 4, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Mayweather-marquez it is
Swick-Kampmann was the only compelling fight on that card. Watching Mayweather-Marquez makes more sense now.
A catchweight Belfort and Franklin fight where both are untested doesn’t count for much other than card filler.
by cyke on Sep 4, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Mayweather-Marquez is a compelling matchup?
by Zack Gobie on Sep 4, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Compared to Kos/Trigg? Yes.
Floyd has some ring rust, but is still very capable, which will be an equalizer for the fight. Marquez is capable and has fought the faster Pacquaio with some great results. Other fighters have moved up in weight, Marquez can too. The parity will make for the best fight on that night.
by cyke on Sep 4, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquez’s own coach said that he doesn’t have big hopes for this fight againsnt Mayweather. In fact, the only guy pushing this as a compelling match-up is De La Hoya. And maybe I’m just a layman when it comes to boxing bust most of Mayweather’s fights have bored me, P4P king or not.
by Zack Gobie on Sep 4, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would you compare it to Kos/Trigg and not to the main event?
I’d get it if you took that over belfort/franklin, but comparing it to kos/trigg is unfair.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 4, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not Koscheck step in and fight Kampmann and the winner gets GSP. I know Koscheck’s coming off a loss but realistically who is clear cut contender?
by The Bronzeville Bully on Sep 4, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GSP-Hughes 4. J/k. He is coming off a win against Serra
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Koscheck is a possibility, but I think he needs another win after Trigg personally.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s Karo up to these days. His suspension should be up soon.
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn’t he train at Jackson?
by The Bronzeville Bully on Sep 4, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If McLovin wins- Instant contender. 3 wins in a row with slick submissions. He’ll get raped by GSP but at least its a halfway decent sell.
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOO dont feed him to the dogs yet. I think in a year or so sure but right now he has 0 chance against GSP.
by Riley_96 on Sep 4, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rumored to fight Hazelett on UFC 106
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many fights does Shields have left on his contract?
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by MonkeyCHops on Sep 4, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think 2, he can’t wait for it to be done…If i were him, I would not fight for any titles. I think Strikeforce has some champions’ clause
by The Bronzeville Bully on Sep 4, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gawd, I am so sick of writers dissing Swick . “There were already serious questions over whether Swick vs. Kampmann would really produce a legitimate contender for Georges St. Pierre” The guy is 9-1 in UFC competition wit the only loss coming to Okami and only 2 of his wins went to a decision. His stand up is totally bad ass and he’s super well rounded. Why do so many ppl think he cant compete with the takedown and control master. Well, you’re right, this is a serious loss for the division (and my parlays) but it sounds like he should recover soon and get back in the mix.
by naturalist on Sep 4, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he is 9-1 which is why he would have been given a title shot if he won but to think he has anything that would make a fight with gsp competitve is pretty delusional even if swick is “totally bad ass” and “super well rounded”
by brazary on Sep 4, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made money on GSP in his last fight and others. When has he fought a guy with superior reach and range? he got KO’d buy a guy no reach but Swick cant’ give him any problems? GSP probably would win in more than 5 out of 10 parallel universes but if he stands too long with Swick he could easily get hurt. There is too much evidence to suggest otherwise.
by naturalist on Sep 4, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s have this discussion…
Where was his stand-up “totally bad ass” and where did he show that he was “super well-rounded”?
He knocked out Jonathan Goulet, who in a non-offending way.. is a light switch. He overwhelmed Saunders, which was probably one of his better fights I’ve seen. We’ll give him that.
The Davis fight…. UGH, just stop it. And how he could not finish Burkman, a guy who LOOPS EVERY PUNCH, is beyond me if his stand-up is so “totally bad ass”.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was pretty good in his last fight when he TKO’d Saunders, pretty bad ass when he KO’d Goulet. Definelty bad ass whenhe owner Loiseau and Gideon Ray. Basicaly his footwork and hand speed are pretty damn good in all of his fights. As I said he only lost once in the UFC and it wasn’t c ause the other guy outstruck him. basically he beats everyone he fights on the feet. IS that enough reason to think his stand up is bad ass. If not , you tell me who beat him on the feet. As for well rounded , he has never been subbed and I’m sure his sub offense is improving with time.
by naturalist on Sep 4, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it isn’t enough reason. Burkman and Davis were subpar fighters in comparison to Swick, in my opinion, and he couldn’t finish either. Burkman was probably the bigger disappointment by far.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we agree they are subpar fighters in comparison to Swick. Burkman was his 1st fight at 170 so that might have been an issue. The guy has huge range and usually uses it pretty well. were you taking Kampman in ths fight? I hope we can have this arguement again before his next fight.
by naturalist on Sep 4, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way i think it’s odd that you acknowledge Swick is superior to Davis who won 8 out of his last 10 in the UFC and has a bunch of pro boxing wins, but you cant give credit to Swick for having damn good stand up
by naturalist on Sep 4, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis also got out boxed by Dan Hardy, So a pro boxer or not, Davis has not been great with his hands lately.
by Riley_96 on Sep 4, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swick didn’t outstrike Davis. He took him down and laid on top of him.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Sep 4, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see Swick fight Alves and learn what totally bad-ass stand-up is.
by Dooda on Sep 4, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he did
fine, he primarily won thru takedowns and control. It only validates my point that he is well rounded. If you guys were to watch his LAST fight carefully you would see complete domination in takedowns, positioning, AND complete domination on the feet where he secured the TKO. Remember, Saunders was undefeated coming into that fight. Give Swick some damn credit. He is easily a top 5 UFC WW.
by naturalist on Sep 4, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swick Confirms it on his Twitter:
I am out of UFC 103. It sucks and I am sorry guys…
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 4, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Kampmann doesn’t take this to the ground than he’s a moron.
by Zack Gobie on Sep 4, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly, but Daley has gotten better on getting back to his feet on the ground. The more months keep passing, the better he’ll continue to get.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Condit is the only one i can see putting on a show against GSP, even though he lost against Kampmann, I think he would be a good fight for GSP, probably lose in a Fitch-like fashion but he would do better than Swick or Kampmann.
by DirtyML on Sep 4, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes! it would be a helluva a show. Condit constantly fighting for arm bars and sweeps while getting pounded. i’m sure it would be a great show on the feet too but gsp wont let it go there for very long.
by naturalist on Sep 4, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have preferred to see Brock Larson get the call-up instead of Daley
He was already training for UFN 19 which is only three days prior.
by Scott Haber on Sep 4, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Larson wouldnt have been that bad of a replacement. he really seems to be lost in the ww shuffle
by brazary on Sep 4, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Daley is a live dog in this fight. Kampmann overrates his standing skills more than even his ardent internet supporters, and gets himself in trouble a lot. He wasn’t winning the exchanges on the feet with Condit. I expect him to stand with Daley, feel the power, and then take it down and win. But if Daley lands a big shot it could be too late.
by Michael Rome on Sep 4, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know how anyone can’t think Daley is a live dog in this one. Kampmann regularly leaves his defense down following punches, even against Condit. Daley will KTFO him if he does that.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The term “live dog” is really fucking retarded to me.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 4, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Vick concurs.
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by Beer Monster on Sep 4, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
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by Beer Monster on Sep 4, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, people complained about Rosholt’s stoppage over Leben but this looks 10x worse. Dean has his hands under Kampmann’s armpits and he’s still holding the choke in.
by Sokonojudo on Sep 4, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The complaint was that Leben appeared to tap, while McFedries didn’t. 2nd, It’s more comparable to Babalu/Heath because Kampmann kept holding the choke while the ref was trying to pull him off.
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by themachiavellian on Sep 4, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, except McFedries has absolutely ZERO ground game while Daley would actually try to power out of it, and the huge fist Kampmann took may go differently if Daley connects. He might not KO him, but Daley would likely be much more accurate in the following barrage.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which also
Could set up Daley as a contender if he wins in dramatic fashion? GSP seems to be only susceptible to a huge bullrush punch, but if Alves couldn’t do it, could Daley?
Future contenders in my eyes: Condit, Larson, Swick, Kampmann, AJ, maybe Hardy, maybe Hazelett
long shots: Daley, Kos, and finally Fitch and Alves who we’ve all seen get destroyed
by amadeus on Sep 4, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize he was cut...
I would have prefered Paul Daley v Luigi Fioravanti over PD and Kampmann.
by Screwface on Sep 4, 2009 3:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
War kampmann
I dont see daley winning this , kampmann has been working on his standup for the swick fight anyways, and the chances of daley getting a lucky sub versus kampmann are slim to none,
by Xtor on Sep 4, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Working on his stand-up? Kampmann was already known as a solid striker, but Daley is pretty damn good, and he may actually be better because Kampmann’s defense is questionable. On the floor, Daley will have problems but he has continued to improve.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 4, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant kampmann would most likely have focused more on standup in his preparation for swick , and that might work out well versus someone like daley.
I think you`re right about daley, but still, i just don`t see kampmann getting flash ko`ed or having any problems taking daley down and finishing it.
by Xtor on Sep 4, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MARTIN KAMPMANN IS NOT DUTCH!!!
He is Danish… he hails from Denmark…
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by Gunslinger20 on Sep 4, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i was waiting for someone to realize the mistake!
my wife is a Dane and were both big Martin Kampman fans. There is only five million Danish people on earth. I’ll be huge to see him fight for a UFC belt.
even though his chances are pretty sad against GSP
by TheProletariat on Sep 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha what`s the deal with this " fuck denmark ’ crap , i know you`r probaly trying to be funny in some wierd and twisted way but seriously! ive got 3 of my friends in afghanistan atm and almost lost my best friend in irak for the greater good of the world ( aka the american/british crusade through the eastern countries) and frankly im getting damn tired of seeing people downgrade the danes, for such a small country we sure do contribute alot to the greater good of the world..
P.S This coming from a brit is just larfable, most of you brits don`t know anything about your own history.
England got absolutely " owned " by danish vikings from around 800 – 1100+, and then ruled by danish kings up until the 1600+, thats pretty close to a 1000 years lol, hell id almost call you my brothers if you weren’t such douchebags =)
by Xtor on Sep 5, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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