Rashad Evans Breaks Down Roy Nelson vs Kimbo Slice on The Ultimate Fighter
by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 11:25 AM EDT
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Rashad Evans talks to MMA Weekly:
"I think the decision to put Roy in there with Kimbo instead of anybody else was, everybody wanted to fight Kimbo, but I think they would have got caught up in the mystique of Kimbo. I was like Roy is probably the only one here with enough big fight experience to fight a guy like Kimbo and not get in their head about I'm fighting Kimbo Slice," said Evans.
"I thought Roy was the best guy for the job because Roy brings that big fight experience, and Roy, he's great at everything Kimbo's not good at. I thought that was the most important thing in our decision."
Michael David Smith has more:
Evans is careful not to reveal any spoilers about what actually happened when Kimbo fought Nelson. But he does say that before the fight, he considered Nelson one of the best fighters on Season 10 of the show -- and he considered Kimbo one of the worst.
However, in hindsight, Evans says he actually sees Kimbo and Nelson as very similar. He said he thinks they both have big things in store for them if they work hard enough, but he's worried that both of them lack the work ethic to put themselves through grueling training camps with world-class coaches.
They are certainly doing an artful job of building up the suspense for this fight. Too bad it's not a live fight because the money would be swinging towards Kimbo right about now.
This builds on Kimbo Slice's comments as per Loretta Hunt:
“This fight is very exciting,” said Slice. “This is probably, I would say, not hands down, but pound-for-pound a good fight, one of my best fights…I was impressed with my performance. I was impressed with everything. I’m not crying about nothing.”
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After reading this I still think Kimbo loses but puts up a tough fight. I just pray its more entertaining than the last two shitfests.
that’s why I wanted Roy to beat Kimbo — I thought Roy could knock Kimbo out,"
Am i the only one who thinks that this is a hint that Roy didn’t KO kimbo?
also, Roy has been real excited about his performance based on his tweets, and the same thing goes for Kimbo..
I think this ends up to be a war. a really close decision maybe.
I actually think the last comment is the most revealing….
“I’m not crying about nothing”
So, he loses. End of story.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 30, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know about you, but i find it hard analyzing what kimbo usually says..
for all we know, maybe he meant people were crying about the decision.. maybe it was a controversial win for kimbo?
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Well if Kimbo did win a bad decision
there would be no reason for him to be crying period.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
… which could be a good reason to say something like “I’m not crying about nothing.” And that’s what he did say.
I think he loses this fight, but I don’t think you can conclude from that statement much of anything one way or the other.
by Kierkegaard on Sep 30, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I am not understanding you.
If he won the fight, no matter how, he would not say anything about crying.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Maybe you wouldn’t, but that doesn’t mean Kimbo wouldn’t use those words.
Look, when asked about the fight he can’t say “I won” or “I lost, but did real well.” Let’s say he did win, and he gets asked how he felt about his performance. Why would it be so bizarre to imagine he responds, knowing that he won, by saying something like “I think I did really well against a vet like Roy. Let’s put it this way, I’m not crying about anything after that fight.” Doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.
Like I said, I think he loses the fight, too. I just think dissecting every word that Kimbo says as if it was authored by the Presidential speech-writers and considered for every possible angle might be reaching a bit. You could be completely right that he’s saying that as a way of saying “I was proud of my effort, and even though I lost I’m not going to cry about it.” But I think he could also say that as his way of saying “I can’t say I won, so I’ll just say that I’m not crying about how the fight went down, wink wink.” Probably not, but I don’t think you can really tell just by that quote taken on its own.
by Kierkegaard on Sep 30, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok,
but it is hardly “dissecting” his words. It would not be typical of a fighter on the winning end of a bad or close decision to say “i aint crying about nothing”. I dont think even bringing up presidential speech writers while talking about Kimbo Slice’s comments really applies, but who knows.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
I was impressed with everything. I’m not crying about nothing."
I think in the context that it was given all this really means is that he is happy with everything in the fight and did not hold anything back. I agree, this doesn’t really mean he lost.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
In fact, it could mean the opposite
…that he had Nelson crying.
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LOL,
for entertainment purposes that would be great!
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But it didn't....
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by Leland Roling on Sep 30, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Roy wouldn’t be excited if he got KOed early, he wouldn’t call this “the most important week of his life” if he just gets finished early. and the same thing goes for kimbo. He wouldn’t say it was one of his best fights if he lost quickly..
they’ve been saying that this fight was gonna live up to the hype.. and I’m really convinced that it was a reallyyy close decision..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t read too much into what these people are saying anywhere.
There’s a lot of money on the line if they spoil the fight, and I’d be surprised if they said or posted anything regarding the fight that hadn’t been cleared by spike and dana (and probably mike rowe if we are to believe the impact he’s claiming from cnbc yesterday).
Don’t read too much into what these people are saying
and probably mike rowe if we are to believe the impact he’s claiming
I thought we shouldn’t believe anyone???!?!?
:P
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Rowe the narrator from Dirty Jobs?
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Sep 30, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
He is the narrator of the Deadliest Catch and TUF, on Dirty Jobs he actually does stuff.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
I love Mike Rowe &
knew he was the narrator of Deadliest Catch but didnt realize it was him on TUF.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
It’s because he really doesn’t do a lot of TUF, really just, “prevoiusly on… the ultimate fighter,” and “next week on… the ultimate fighter,” but yes, it’s him. Dude is awesome.
Dirty Jobs is one of my favorite shows just b/c he is the perfect host, I can’t think of anyone else who could do a better job. He is so funny and painfully honest at times.
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
You are so right.
Definitely one of my favorite shows ever. He mixes sarcasm w/comedy so seemlessly it is great.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
having him as a guest commentator for a fight card would be freaking awesome
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
That would be pretty cool.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
I’m with everyone else. I’m leaning toward Kimbo losing based on his comments, but I’m not sure. I’d be interested in seeing a poll.
I cant handle any more of this speculation. Its driving me nuts. As soon as the cast came out ive been talking about how Roy was going to win this show hands down and Kimbo was going to embarass himself against a bunch of these guys. I cant handle any more suspense. I must know what happened.
Wes Sims wins the show. He gogoplatas Roy Nelson, and knocks out Brendan Schaub with a spinning elbow.
but of course we shouldn’t let facts get in a way of a good story.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorry, but that is one of my favorite quotes ever. Words of wisdom right there. lol
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Sep 30, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Wes is a dick and poser
…but he makes up for it by being funny as hell. Seriously – I WANT to hate that guy so badly and can’t! You don’t know what that’s like for me.
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I hate to put a damper on things, but all of us are having our chains jerked. All these statements are carefully calibrated to make sure everyone is in a tizzy, and any inferences drawn from them are garbage.
I’m not sure if people overrate Nelson or underrate Kimbo—- the problem with Kimbo isn’t that he is totally useless in the ring; it’s that he was being hyped as the greatest heavyweight ever by EliteXC, when that was obviously not even remotely the truth.
On the other hand, Nelson is the IFL champ. Is that really as awesome as it sounds, or is it just really good for a fat guy?
I hate to put a damper on things
Well, mission accomplished! Is it 10 yet?…No? Damn 11 more hours.
"It’s tough," Martinez said. "This is my house. This is my home."
We'll miss you, Vic
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
"I was impressed with everything. I’m not crying about nothing."
=Kimbo lost
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Who knows, who cares.
He lost.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
BE SURE TO TUNE IN AT 10 PM……….
…..AWWWWWNNNNN SPPPPIIIIKEEE!!! – Kimbo points to the camera. :)
In retrospect....
Is this going to be the episode where we see Rampage blow up and destroy a door ’cause Kimbo lost?
Or does Kimbo win a close decision, and that door smashing thing is a result of Rashad pissing Rampage off one too many times?
Page lost some sleep
and decided to take it out on an innocent door :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
No. Let me tell you why. During Kimbo’s fight you can see rampage with a thing oon his head just like Kimbo wears. When he is tearing the door to shreds, he does not have one on
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 30, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He coulda pulled it off
Similar move to throwing your hat down when you get upset.
I wouldn’t put too much stock into that
Don't we already know....
Kimbo loses bc he’s already lined up to fight Tba at the finale? I could be wrong but I thought I saw that somewhere….
by Booseye on Sep 30, 2009 12:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fuck this shit, I’m just going to plug my ears and hum for the next few hours.
Attn Supremacy, if you’re around, want to make a crazy assed sig bet?
If Fedor/Rogers has a better TV rating than Kimbo/Nelson, my sig will be “The only MMA worth watching takes place at 4AM in Japan”
If Fedor/Rogers has a worse TV rating than Kimbo/Nelson, your sig will be “The only MMA worth watching takes place inside the Octagon”
Waddya say?
Keep firing Assholes!
The Leafs are back!
I’m just pissed because I have to wait an extra hour to find out because I won’t be able to have anything but Real World/RR challenge on my TV at 10. I really want to be here to make fun of the people that are 7000% positive that this fight is going a certain way.
Hey, you can watch it online for free at tvunetworks.com (channel 10064). It’s a stream of the spike channel.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
I cannot approve of this. All MMA is worth watching ( hence the name) like Fridays MFC card in Canada. I am actually looking forward to Friday since I know what happens tonight and they are just teasing you guys to get a great rating.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 30, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction: I think I know (heard from reliable source a few months back). Either way, it doesn’t matter. Kimbo is fighting for the UFC beyond the TUF finale, so, its not like he has to win this match or win TUF to do so.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 30, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
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