TUF 10: The Ultimate Fighter Live Discussion (Episode 3)
by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 9:55 PM EDT
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I'll be brief in last week's recap. Rampage chose to match up his big white ex-NFL'er, Wes Shivers, against Rashad's number one pick James McSweeney. After two rounds of heavy breathing, slow movement, and Rashad screaming like a banshee, McSweeney got a bit of a gift decision and advanced into round two.
But no one cares about that. Roy vs. Kimbo. Wow.
It's no stretch to say that this is the biggest fight in the history of the show. Past seasons had fights that look good in retrospect, but nothing can match the hype of this one.
Dana White's projecting six million viewers for this one. Six million! On cable!
On paper, it seems completely insane to expect anything other than a dominating Roy Nelson victory. Even some of the hype interviews would lend one to think Nelson takes this, though it sounds like Kimbo puts on a good showing.
With that in mind, I'm most interested in the fallout assuming Kimbo takes the fall here. Do fans lose interest? Does the editing team try to keep him in focus? Will he come back as an injury replacement?
All things said, if you watch one episode of the Ultimate Fighter this season, make it this one.
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KIMBO SLICE!
because tapping out is for bitches!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Most likely
Kimbo will lose, the rest of the seasons ratings will not be as high but Kimbo will be signed to a UFC contract bigger than the winner and after losing 3 fights in the UFC he will be dropped and we will never hear about Kimbo again.
Dana did this for 2 reasons ratings and money. Now if Kimbo could find a way to win and win in the UFC it will make Dana even happier but I dont see it.
I will say this even though I see Nelson winning tonight I still dont see him winning the show. He is not as good as everyone thinks. Not only loses to Rothwell and Arlovski but he also lost to Monson who just got owned by Rizzo.
by bigdmmafan on Sep 30, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is not as good as everyone thinks. Not only loses to Rothwell and Arlovski but he also lost to Monson who just got owned by Rizzo.
Is there somebody as good as those guys on the show?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 30, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you actually saw the Monson fight, Roy won, but Cecil Peoples was the only one scoring it.
His score was 127-6 for Cobra Commander.
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Sep 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, if you read the notes in the margin, it was initially Eleventeen-Fish.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had Arlovski in N/S when he got stood up. He also beat Monson. Fightfinder is not the magical rankings god.
by Swordslasher on Sep 30, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monson/Nelson was a CLOSE decision, not to mention Monson's been fighting like ever month or two,
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way, It shouldn’t be used to discredit Nelson.
by Swordslasher on Sep 30, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people also had him
winning over Rothwell too.
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by achengy on Sep 30, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m at friends work for a hockey pool draft tonight (which I know nothing about)…. hopefully I get home before the fight starts.
by Nick Thomas on Sep 30, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My guess is that Kimbo puts on a good show but Nelson ultimately wins. (No surprise yet.) Other predictions…
1) Dana White praises Kimbo as being a real fighter after all.
2) Kimbo comes back as an injury replacement.
3) TUF ads tease that Kimbo makes that return to keep viewers tuned in.
4) Might go so far as to tease Kimbo as coming back from injury possibly for redemption against Nelson, maybe hinting at a rematch in the finale.
From all the interviews I’ve seen, it seems like a very good guess that Nelson wins after Kimbo puts on a good show, so neither really loses in some sense. But for this to really matter, Kimbo can’t really be done yet. Either he wins (but why would Nelson do the press tour?), or he’s coming back later since he answered Dana in the affirmative after being asked, “Do you want to be a fucking fighter?”
by random_asshole on Sep 30, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha, you care about Kimbo Slice and there's nothing you can do about it!
by casey manrique on Sep 30, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Billy, nnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a big baseball fan (never watch it with the exceptions of movies :P)
But would Babe Ruth do well in today’s baseball game? Cause if the answer might be no, his comparison is a fail. If yes I fail
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not, but Royce Gracie wouldn’t be that nowadays even in his physical prime, doesn’t make him any less of a legend. It’s more about success in their own era and being pioneers for the guys of the future.
by Zack Gobie on Oct 1, 2009 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone get kicked off for snitching and Kimbo comes back? I bet or Roy comes back,
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 30, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that really the title of the episode?
Wes Sims? After he subs roy nelson with an inverted triangle en route to the finals?
but we shouldn’t let facts get in a way of a good story.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wes Sims gets caught with an IPod in the house posting on a certain forum? hhmm….
by midwestbred on Sep 30, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck dude, I hope you don’t get your leg broken and can come back when someone gets hurt…
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 30, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is gonna re watch the first two episodes with me
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 30, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, very nice! I googled the blogs last week and that was all that came up. Much obliged.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who is early?? I cant wait!
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I need Rampage for my alarm clock sound…..Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up..Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…Aaron get up…C’mon Aaron get up…OK OK IM UP!!!!.
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rashad might be better
“GET UP! YOU GOTTA GO! YOU GOTTA GO NOW!!! DON’T WAIT!!! DON’T WAIT!!!! DON’T WAIT!!!!
When his voice starts cracking, you know you’ve gotta get up
by Shaun32887 on Sep 30, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm here.
Tim fighting Overeem yet? ;)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA
yeah that’s the big suprise fight tonight, the pull kimbo nelson and show sylvia vs overeem
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a fight
It’s a contest to see who can piss clean.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 30, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
You should make the bad sweater party pic your avatar.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 30, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha I like the one I have of us all cage side…Maybe I’ll do that for Xmas
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t put it there, but I’m a huuuge mark for retro posters.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome. I love the Mad Men theme for the same reason.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried getting into that show, but once I looked past the 1960s window-dressing, it was just another soap opera. I was quite disappointed with all I’d heard.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whaaaa? I’m not sure how it’s possible not to like this show. I certainly wouldn’t call it a soap opera.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like it, but I do enjoy the sesame street version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgvKCfZqxrQ&feature=player_embedded
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How haven't I gotten a rec for this
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like the basic plot elements of a melodrama – Secret Identity! Scandalous Affairs! Bastard Children! Etc, etc. It’s fluff TV, & I prefer something meatier. Breaking Bad, now that’s awesome.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which episodes did you watch exactly? Fluff TV is just blowing my mind.
BB is great as well.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the first one, and it looked like a time machine. I read up more & more on it, and didn’t see anything remarkable about it beyond the social environment of the 1960s. Why don’t you consider it fluff?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s just an incredibly deep show. Not that this is a huge point, but 4 of the 5 nominations for best writing in a drama series were Mad Men. It just touches on so many issues of the 60’s and today without being obvious or pretentious or judgmental about it.
Plus the creator was one of the writers for the Sopranos.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that it deals with the 1960s (though I’ve heard it’s lacking in it’s depiction of race, but I can’t intelligently comment on that) – I was floored in the pilot when the gynecologist lit a cigarette while “under the hood”, so to speak. I just don’t find any of the characters interesting (except for Christina Hendricks, but for a different reason…yummy…).
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how Rampage asked Roy what his name is…LOL
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you look smaller than in the pictures!
Rampage, natural bully
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing when I met Rampage but I wasn’t gonna tell him that.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm breathlessly awaiting last weeks fight again
I can’t tell you how relieved I am to see that it is being replayed.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When’s it start? There’s just two guys breathlessly rolling around right now.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
greg jacksons "special" jiu jitsu
:(
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two minutes in…and we are gassed…
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Once you know a fight is going to be terrible, such as rewatching last week's bout again--
It almost takes on a magical quality.
I do hope none of those 6 million viewers decided to tune in early though, because the sheer majesty of the dance going on right now might be too much to handle cold.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing gets me pumped to watching TUF like two dudes with their hands on their knees.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Roy Nelson ate their gas tanks? I say no.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy looks a lot more conditioned than he looks
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What....
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Made sense to me.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was just the way i read it at first
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and according to him,
less hungry than he looks.. He said he hardly ate in the house cause he was watching his weight..
the other guys said he ate everything.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was an unfunny attempt at being unfunny.
Roy is my co-pilot.
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad's voice cracking during the McSweeney fight has me LOLing for the 2nd week in a row!
by TDITZ on Sep 30, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I love it. Especially since it’s what we’re all thinking.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought there should've been a third round here..
although i don’t think Wes would’ve wanted that.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I didn’t think McSweeney won the fight up to this point. Woulda been an interesting third period.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone would have died of a heart attack if their was a third round.
by Zack Gobie on Oct 1, 2009 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
COD4 is much more interesting than that fight….It’s such a great time killer.
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mazzagatti’s rambling at the end is a nice little gem.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I simply can't get enough...
of Rashad screaming “Don’t WAIT!” with his voice cracking. Because I’ve totally done that as a HS wrestling coach.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YUS!
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HERE WE GO!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"win or lose, imma fight him!"
of course you will.. you don’t have a choice.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But this time--James McSweeney backs up Rashad!
…for about 90 seconds…
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He could impersonate kalib starnes…
by MMAWrestling on Sep 30, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND HERE WE GO!
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm willing to bet $100 BE bucks this goes to a decision..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh. My. Goodness.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Introspectives Kimbo is introspectives.
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually a fairly interesting look at the guy.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But will Kimbo ever be at rest?
More deep thoughts, with Kimbo Handy.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
LOL
http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com
by Beer Monster on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That cut still looks nasty
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by Deo Wade on Sep 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
I’m actually excited, feels like a high profile fight. the hype caught up to me
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Words of wisdom Kimbo.
"I will knock your hair black!"- Ken Shamrock to Tito Ortiz
by FutureChamp on Sep 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
"I also like to bring guns to training centers"
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it required to wear the douchy UFC necklace?
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it must be…
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure that it’s the mic
by MMAWrestling on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can obviously buy it on ufc.com (washer and string) for like 40 bucks
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, Kimbo?
You walk around at 230 lbs. Why the hell are you wearing a sweatshirt in Vegas for a AM run?
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When was this taped?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
June or so, wasn't it?
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally
A little build up for Big Country.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo slice is so likeable
The UFC could make him 10 times bigger than he already is.
Assuming he can actually win fights in the octagon….
by ruckus on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The dean of losing to MT fighters Keith Jardine!
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ouch. Burnnnnn.
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He fell for that? Really?
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by Deo Wade on Sep 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampage making good on his promise not to call him Sardine anymore…
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thug Life
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Get in there Tiki!
Bid your time… but always remember, when it comes it comes HAAAAARD
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s how he knocked out chuck. hahaha.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh my little Roy Toy....
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahh, the trusty stank bref joke serves Rampage well as always.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampage is cracking me up.
hahaha.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn......
That was harsh…
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor mcsweeney, the ref would have stopped that one real quick.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quote of the Night goes to Rampage
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by Deo Wade on Sep 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rugby!
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Next on Spike
Guys throwing shit into a fire to see if it explodes. New episodes Thursday at 10!
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You dissing rugby…?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
Just Spike’s attempts to complete corner the “Male 25-45 with disposable income” demo. I’m guessing about 5 women in America watch their programming at this point.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s cool. Rugby needs more love in the US.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Rugby, Spike has literally doubled the number of things they air that I’d be interested in watching, and I’m absolutely in their key demographic—they need to go back to well and put on some AFL or something.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm telling "Throwing Sh!t in Fires"
is a ratings hit waiting to happen.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next on SPIKE: Histories greatest fires!!
Dresden vs. Centralia!! Which fire burns supreme!!! MIKE ROWE
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"destroyed in seconds" anyone?
they add explosions
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should program Spike2
when they decide to expand
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I threw a can of spray paint into a fire once…it was a disaster
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
inflammable means flammable? who knew?
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when it exploded it blew hot coals all up in the trees and on the roof of my house…yeah im a redneck from Iowa what can i say
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You couldn’t find a Yakov picture? Poor guy only had one joke, at least give him credit for it.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
I only remember this from the Simpsons :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he had 2 jokes, the other being the “In Russia…” formulation. So fail on my part.
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by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RUGBY Mother Fuckers!!!
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by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After watching McSweeney fight, I’m not sure why he’s talking smack. Rampage, who I am no fan of, could beat him with one arm tied behind is back while eating a cupcake.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fighter Bashing is all TUF leaves us with.
He’d take bites while slipping shitty strikes, right? Not while actually throwing punches with the one hand? Or would he wait 120 seconds for McSwiggins to gas and then nibble it leisurely while insulting him?
by asa on Oct 1, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do they use such decorated mouthpieces? Isn’t a basic Wal-Mart mouthpiece sufficient (& cheaper)?
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by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you are fighting professionally you really should spend the 100-150 dollars to get a fitted mouthpiece by a dentist. Boil and bite mouthpieces work okay but they can be hard to shape for some people’s mouth and some fighters trim them too much and they lose their structual integrity. A dentist mouthpiece will fit tight, be more comfortable, and you know that it is fit to work properly.
by Dropkick434 on Sep 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah – that makes sense. What about all the customized designs? I’ve heard those cost +$1K.
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by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure about how much the customization costs for mouthpieces. But 1000 seems pretty high. I bet they are made by the same labs that make retainers and such, and those are customized all the time for not much extra.
by Dropkick434 on Oct 1, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo with a towel over his head looks like a bible character lol
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“That’s a big belly.”
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Biggest belly I ever seen…” lol
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
foreshadowing: Kimbo gets destroyed in the mount
by BNeL21 on Sep 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if his feet get wet when he takes a shower?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Wes Shivers needs subtitles?
Geez, his Texas accent ain’t that bad…
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's Mississippi
not Texas
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the correction
Still, it’s not that bad.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
count to the ref…wwe style
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, no ref’s going to stop the fight because you’re lightly tapping him on the cheek, Roy.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
perhaps there showing that
leading towards a questionable stoppage
>_> im clutching at anything!
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im on edge >_>
lemme alone
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miragliotta might
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 30, 2009 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
SAW
I guess jigsaw ain’t dead… this franchise is getting old quick.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quick? It’s saw fu*kin 6.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually liked up to SAW IV, but the fifth one was really bad. now 6? Yeah, I think I’m done with it :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually saw Saw IV in the theater
And I knew the series was done when I realized I was FOUR-FLASHBACKS DEEP into this movie. Hell, other characters had flashbacks within yet another characters flashback – not even the same person.
Remember the time we remembered Edith remembering the time John remembered the time he was depressed about remembering something sad?
PS – If anyone cares, don’t ever go see a gore movie in the theater in the 21st century. Wait for the DVD.
by asa on Oct 1, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marcus Jones is a gardener
He’s my new pick to win the whole thing now!!
by BNeL21 on Sep 30, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really hope he does well – he’s likable.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every shot of Marcus Jones seems off because of his height
He’s like a Batman villain, staring down at the camera
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RYOTOOOOO!
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Poor Shogun….
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what? he’s rich!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is one of the worst promo's they've made recentlyy..
the text and animation looks real cheap..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Spin Drill FTW!
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wes Sims is like a ticking timebomb
Something is bound to happen eventually
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh...
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo loses, Marcus gets injured, Kimbo replaces him?
by MMAWrestling on Sep 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lol you on your period?
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
“You know, he’s sensitive.”
…
“You on your period?”
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Marcus Jones
sounds like a middle school kid. In a good way. Love him begging to fight after he gets called out about his knee.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
D&D FTW
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
by BadB on Sep 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha, I like Marcus. He’s a complicated man.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DnD, Flowers, Comics, Football and MMA… hmmmm.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given how much press he got, I think he does just fine.
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by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have the same feeling too.
he’s seems like a good guy, really big and seems to have a good ground game.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marcus is my new favorite fighter ever. Well, other than Big Nog and Wandy.
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol very passionate about d & d, gardener….this marcus jones is a natural born KILLER!!!!
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
you on your period?
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you're comments are late? or stream is late? haha.
(posted too quickly.)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"i aint giving my gardening tips to nobody."
"I will knock your hair black!"- Ken Shamrock to Tito Ortiz
by FutureChamp on Sep 30, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A bird that flys high
eventually got to come down to get water.
I don’t know what the hell that means, but it sounds cool.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i’d think that’d be right up your alley, “duck”
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
castrol gtx
ftw
is this a new sponsor?
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe kimbo drinking castrol gtx in a commercial? he kinda reminds me of that guy who drank motor oil in “over the top”
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC needs to hire Marcus Jones to narrate or do Post Fight Interviews...Something
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by Deo Wade on Sep 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or have him fight
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think his body will stand-up for that long.
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by Deo Wade on Sep 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nelson = Well Rounded
Especially in profile…
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by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People say that I’m out of shape. Round is a shape.
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
by BadB on Sep 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The body of a god...Buddha
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Orioles fans used to say about Ramon Hernandez...
He’s in the best shape of his life – Oval!
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Roy Nelson looks like he just left every buffet in Vegas” lol
by Dropkick434 on Sep 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how much did kimbo weigh?
i wasn’t paying attention. haha. 264 for roy and?
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
230
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s his lightest no?
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Myth discredit a win by Roy then? :P
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit
the first shot is fired
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Sep 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the belly alone was at 60 pounds
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was 230 but I’m not sure, could like 3 people tell me?
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was only 2.
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by Beer Monster on Sep 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tooth hurty? I think so.
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Don’t think that he was a one-hit wonder”
What, exactly, would that one hit be? Tank? Cantrell?
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Roy looks bigger now than when i last saw him fight.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
230
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Kimbo saying :
I want to know Jiu Jitsu(sp?), I can’t even spell Jiu Jitsu (neither can I. lol)
by BNTHIS on Sep 30, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t this just a bunch of footage recycled from last week?
by JRN on Sep 30, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
its some shady editing
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what's been haunting me all day?
the notion that they almost had Satoshi Ishii on this series. The whole time they were talking him I was thinking what the hell are they going to do with a 0-0 Olympian….duh — put him on TUF…..oh well.
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ishii would have been awesome
Would have lost, though
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might could have beaten McSweeney or Abe
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Shivers
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he could do quite well in this field
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i think so too,
but I don’t think it would be good for him after he gets to the UFC..
He might be too raw for the veteran Heavies.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they can get him after his contract anyway.
he seems to like the UFC but Lyoto and others advised him to take a couple of fights before stepping in the UFC, and it might be good for him in the long run.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it woulda been a good spot for him to develop and show people what he has to offer
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this fight is not going the distance givin the time left on the show…
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plenty of time for 2 5-minute rounds
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
leave the 3rd round til next week…keep ’em watchin and the ratings up!
by boogerhook on Sep 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be some fucked up shit
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would it really shock you tho >.<
by boogerhook on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope haha
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Rampage even aware that there are other people on his team?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure he is!
Tiki, Zach… that big guy… did we get tiddies? No? Well… Kimbo!
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol page wtf
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AND HERE WE GO
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“I’m not THAT dumb” – Roy ftw
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DIAMOND CUTTER FTW
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
self high 5
D:
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad Kimbo don’t have Kimberley as his wife.
by BNTHIS on Sep 30, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last time I saw DDP in anything was in The Devils Rejects
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last time I saw DDP was at Slamboree ’98, winning a Bowery Death Match against Raven.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now reading this cracked me up.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 1, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nitro girls fueled many a couch rubbing in my younger days
……….im sorry for typing that
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Mae Young flashed the Madison Square Garden?
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 1, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
D:
im having trouble getting the image of her “giving birth” to a WHITE hand
that was apparently fathered by mark henry…lol
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Oct 1, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was the Roc diamond.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That he stole from DDP
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so did Jay-Z
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt know about that…after he scores?
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://multimedia.thestar.com/images/65/71/53a43fbe4c3ea5de5ecac041dfae.jpeg
that’s a funny looking diamond cutter
by Phildo on Oct 1, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Men Who Stare at Goats" - That looks awesome...
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw a documentary on these guys a few years ago. CRAZY story, wish I could remember the title…
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
By the BBC
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH MAN. Thank you. I need to watch all those again.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this looks great.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His nickname is already "Big Country"
How much better can it get?
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
roy atlas nelson
lul
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bigger Country?
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’ve never seen a country with a huge dome over it like his.
by boogerhook on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He really is the MMA Bryant Reeves.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
these commercials...
are pissing me off.
And we’re past the point where the fight could be 3 full rounds. Bummer.
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hurry up, stupid commercials. I hate television.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Being at work and watching TUF then clocking out as soon as it’s over= PERFECT TIMING.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you're not a surgeon or a bus driver
I hope
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Judge.
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by Beer Monster on Sep 30, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might have you beat. I’m working, watching, and drinking wine.
by cmsove on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate wine. But you win, you like it. BEER!!!!
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by poundnground on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Kimbo knocks Roy out with his first punch… NO
by cmsove on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
O SHIT!!! HERE WE GO!!!
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They shoulda brought Buffer in for this fight
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
z
Herb Dean’s like, "i thought this was TUF fight, what the hell, this should be
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HERB DEAN!
Brought out the big guns…
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice defense by Kimbo
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
holy shit kimbo slice is defending a take down!
by ruckus on Sep 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is amazing
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s hard to tell what would happen considering people usually get paid to not try…
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im impressed
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
me too.
and kimbo’s listening to his corner.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go for the trip, Kimbo
Launch his fat ass!
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow….regardless of outcome (and take out the fact its nelson) he has improved leaps and bounds
by boogerhook on Sep 30, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And now it gets bad....
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not liking this position if you're Kimbo
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Belly on Belly!!!
HAHAHA
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oof...
lands the takedown in the mount.
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a lot of beef to move....
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, almost an amazing sweep by Kimbo.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
almost thought he was gonna pull it off : (
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
James Thompson'd
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
meh, if he could just stand up like that after I don’t see a problem with it.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
go roy!
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by BadB on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Round 1 to Big Country, no doubt
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
captain obvious is here!! lol
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody has to say it.,...
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just kidding…bro
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all good in da hood...
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those punches were so weak
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
points are points. he made the ref look hard.
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by BadB on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but they dont warrant a stoppage
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that was
the “keep hitting him” that roy was talking about.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, herb just stares at him
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by MyFistYourFace on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would have been an awful stoppage.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohhhhh
Just like the Thompson fight. Kimbo always gets those seconds. Nelson was doing nothing with those punches though.
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by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Herb didn’t stop it – no damage being done.
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by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i didnt hear no counting either lol
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think
damage was one of the criteria, Kimbo wasn’t intelligently defending himself, fights are stopped all the time based on that alone
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Leben telling Bisping to hit him & then dropping his hands wasn’t intelligent defense, but that wasn’t stopped, either. I think it just goes to good judgment (whatever that means) – Kimbo not taking damage with less than a minute left is good to go by me.
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by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow...
the fight was almost stopped because of slaps to the face…
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
foreshadowing with that slap/stop thing roy was talking about
by An0nymous on Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The blogosphere is about to explode
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by Deo Wade on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That did NOT instill confidence in Kimbo’s UFC future….
by BNTHIS on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
its not as if every heavyweight has the same stomach mass as your pregnant wife
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by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nelson is a top 20 heavyweight in the world
he’s several steps beyond what we’ve seen from the rest of the cast.
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
#21, I thought...
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
troof indeed
but shape of offence surely matters as much as weight/skill
i mean if your fighting a 7 foot guy
and he’s 6 foot of legs
that’d be hard
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The crucifix and then tap him on the head technique didnt work
by ruckus on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Easy round for Nelson. No real damage done to either fighter, though.
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was very Miragliotta-esque
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UH HUH.
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by poundnground on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure was.
It was the reverse of the Slice/Thompson fight. That one wasn’t stopped either.
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by The Pope of Chilitown on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a lot of punches. Seemed like Kimbo wasn’t intelligently defending himself for what, 30 seconds?
by cmsove on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He wasn’t getting hit very hard though.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really need to intelligently defend yourself when you aren’t in danger of getting finished though? I mean, if somebody got absolutely locked into a spladle but nothing else happened, that shouldn’t end a fight either.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen spladles that did more damage than those punches
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Big Country 10-9
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thinks thats being generous.
10-8 my two cents
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, just getting a great position does not make a 10-8 round.
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by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
but the way Nelson finished that round does
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tapping kimbo on the head a bunch of times?
Maybe if he did decent in the standup before that, or maybe if it looked like those punches had any effect on kimbo, but neither of those happened, 10-9
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Roy’s belly was actually protecting Kimbo.
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by MyFistYourFace on Sep 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s rough,wirey texture cant feel good agains roy’s supple belly flab…can he possibly get a sub outta that?
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, who was yelling c’mon ref? Those were weak shots.
by Razzel on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shades of Thompson/Kimbo in the end of that round.
by JRN on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that first round sucked!
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by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This next round better be a good one or I’m done with MMA! Just kidding…. maybe.
by cmsove on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stop commercial-ing me to death!
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling Roy gets KO’d. 6 mins left! something awesome has to happen.
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by poundnground on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo looks ripe for another takedown.
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by MyFistYourFace on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMN that belly is big
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well...
with the amount of time left in the show, Roy wins by decision/stoppage or Kimbo by stoppage. Good money has to be on the former, but let’s see!
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And...it's over.
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by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Get up!"
It’s my new favorite corner call! (not quite as good historically as “DO SOMETHIN KEV” though)
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stand em up
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf
He’s working an armlock!
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by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stream is behind
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t matter—that’s exactly why you can’t jump on refs to stand up fighters too quickly.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea but he'd been layin on him for like ..a minute doing nothing but breathe heavy
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, you know, work a submission and some punches in a dominant position.
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by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol he literally wasn't doing anything when i said it
you do realise when you post something it doesnt count for the whole round
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can roy
legally choke someone out with his stomach?
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping to see some improvement on the ground from Kimbo. Nope.
by cmsove on Sep 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
getting beat on the ground by Roy Nelson is nothing to be ashamed of
the guy is one of the best grapplers in the HW division in the world.
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welp.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by P Brady on Sep 30, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bwahahahahahahhahah
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by BadB on Sep 30, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yup
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by poundnground on Sep 30, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Belly Rub Time!
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's it folks
Nothing to see here. Keep it moving.
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by Deo Wade on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Herb was starting to feel guilty.
Kimbo still can’t wrestle. The UFC is going to have to pick and choose his opponents when he goes to PPV.
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by MyFistYourFace on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he did the frank mir flying knee!
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by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“That’s like havin’… the moon sittin’ on you or something.”
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo said that was his best fight ever?
by Joselana on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know why everyone was getting so worked up over they hype and reading so much into every little thing that ws released.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like Lesnar-Mir 2
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
by BadB on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
except
there was action in Mir-Lesnar 2
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Power, yes, action? Nope.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, not more than in this fight.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except for the whole exploding face thing
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by BadB on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have officially lost any interest in TUF.
Even if Kimbo were to come back to replace an injured fighter, I won’t watch. :(
by BNTHIS on Sep 30, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not good for Kimbo...
….although it looks like Kimbo gets another shot next week.
Hope Marcus is okay…
by BNTHIS on Sep 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG Quinton’s haircut.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 30, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Besides that, I'm just ready to get home and get something to eat"
Kimbo will probably get a bigger contract than Nelson after the show, unfortunately.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well...
I guess I’m the stupid one for having been excited about this fight.
How boring.
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can I ask a serious question?
have you watched much MMA before this?
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes.
Not as long as most around here, though. First PPV I bought was A. Silva / Henderson.
What did you find particularly exciting about that fight? I don’t mean that I just wanted to see a lot of standup damage or anything, but a stoppage because one guy is much better than the other at the ground game, without a submission or actually doing much damage, is kind of boring.
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing is though, you asked if you were foolish for getting excited about the fight. I wouldn’t go so far as to call one stupid (I too was excited for this fight), but the fact is that the fight played out exactly as one might have expected, given the competitors respective strengths and levels of experience. Nelson wasn’t particularly active on the ground, but he did enough to earn a round 2 stoppage. Hence the question regarding your knowledge of the sport is relevant, if only to place your surprise at the fight into some perspective.
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by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough.
I expected Roy to win, and I expected it would probably be on the ground. I didn’t expect it to be while inflicting almost no damage and without a submission.
I can’t knock Roy though. He not only won, but chose exactly how he was going to win, and did something that minimized the damage he took. He’s looking to win the show, not just one fight.
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the amount of damage might have been minimal
but the position was overwhelmingly dominant.
It’s very similar to the position Matt Hughes used to finish B.J. Penn and had the camera angle been directly above Kimbo’s face while he was helplessly eating punches you might have a different view of how much damage was being inflicted.
I found the fight fairly dramatic as Kimbo landed some shots and even though he never had Roy in real trouble on the feet it was clear he had the edge standing. Kimbo’s ground game is just not anywhere near what it needs to be to grapple with someone like Nelson.
For comparison’s sake look at the fight from the first episode between Jon and Abe — Jon is an excellent wrestler but not that polished a grappler. He got takedowns but was then trapped in guard and had to batter Abe for the full two rounds to get a decision.
Nelson on the other hand immediately got dominant position (mount) and quickly improved to a completely dominating position — the crucifix (note also that Nelson predicted he would use that position before the fight) — where he could batter a completely helpless Slice.
It’s called technique and Nelson has it.
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention that there is incentive for the show’s producers, the network, and the promotion to downplay the significance of the loss, including a timely bit of pooh-poohing from the charismatic face of the UFC.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree, but it is worth noting that in two Crucifix positions, he left not a signle mark on Kimbo.
He won and deserves credit, but it was hardly an impressive win. I am not a Kimbo fan by any means, but I did not see anything from Roy that was too impressive.
Take away the weight advantage and Kimbo would have gotten back to his feet in the first round.
by Lynchman on Sep 30, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take away the grappling advantage and Nelson is totally screwed!!
Roy did exactly what he had to do to win and nothing more. It wasn’t exactly thrilling, but what do you want—he got a round 2 stoppage, and was on his way to winning an easy 2 round decision.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all right, fair enough.
Boring isn’t a good description of the fight. I guess what I really meant was that I had hoped Kimbo wouldn’t have been so dominated on the ground.
But as I noted on the post-fight thread, I thought it more likely that the conversation about the “intelligent defense” rule was probably edited to make it look like it was before the fight.
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "Intelligent Defense"
Whenever that conversation actually took place, Jordan Breen raises an interesting point (as part of his ongoing quest against such a standard)
Also, when you see fighters gameplanning to exploit it, it proves “intelligent defense” alone is not an acceptable standard of defeat.
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by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that explains why he is already booked on Wikipedia for the finale vs TBA
by boogerhook on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana is hating on Roy
he loves his money fighter$
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was a bit shocked as well
Dana really seemed to step into Gary Shaw territory for a second there.
Roy put on a solid performance…nothing to be ashamed of there, but Dana was genuinely pissed about it.
by Scott Haber on Sep 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO @ Rampage cutting his hair like Kimbo
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by Deo Wade on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ROFL that was great.
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dw playing it out
Oh yeah, those weren’t big punches, I’ll let my daughter pin me down and hit me with those punches hahaha
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by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW
one week of speculation laid to waste, they really fucked with us
by amadeus on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s almost as if there were people who’s job it was to get people to watch this episode.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Already previewing the Kimbo return.
by BTastros on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
already teasing a kimbo comeback!!!
i am shocked
by Ozone on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was unpredictable
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by Kid Nate on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh noes! a traitor!
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by BadB on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo barely beat James Thompson. Who is the UFC going to feed to him? Kalib Starnes. O wait, we’re not in Japan. I have no idea who he can beat in the UFC.
by cmsove on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They can at least use a HW from this show to give him a reasonable chance of a win.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suddenly recall why I usually just tape the show and FF to the fights.
This show is some Real World-type lame shit.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol there he is. see ya in 2 weeks kimb
by boogerhook on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was an incredibly lame episode, and a SUPER lame fight.
by goodbones on Sep 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All the hype and I get this.. I was expecting a WAR :( I’m clocking out and getting drunk. :) OK that makes everything better!
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by poundnground on Sep 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I guess we know for sure that Kimbo fights again. That other picture with him hovering over someone who is laying against the cage didn’t correspond with any situation we saw just now.
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHA
Kimbo comeback, you know that was coming…
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by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dan is full of it. Woah a Kimbo comeback. So fucking lame. Everything Dana sais they wont do, uhh they do it!
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by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dan and Dana, lol
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s so strange for a fight promoter to promote fights, I’m really confused why this is happening.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your confused as to why Dana still has Kimbos nuts in his mouth when he gets absolutely schooled by Nelson. He even goes as far as to diminish his win. W! T! F! Was that?
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
setting the stage for kimbo to come back later in the show if necessary, which is important for the show to get ratings, which is Dana’s job.
I’m confused why people like you keep getting upset about Dana doing his job.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wheres all the TUF love from before? If anything Dana should make an example of him and expose him. Even MORE people will watch when they hear Kimbo wants to prove himself to everyone. Its just hypocritical.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand. First you say that Dana should make an example of Kimbo and expose him and then you say More people will watch ’cause Kimbo wants to prove himself.
Do you want Kimbo to fail or no? Curious…
by BNTHIS on Sep 30, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually want him to do good, but lets face it. It’s not happening. Kimbo will NEVER have a title in the UFC. He will never learn the ground game. Look at Houston Alexander, he’s been at it way longer than Kimbo and nothing.
Bottom line is that Dana is just as bad as other promoters out there and yeah, I would like him to hold the best MMA org in the world to a higher standard. You know, like he is always saying he does…
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning a title is not the sole measure of success in the the realm of sports—especially not in fight sports, where most guys are worlds away from a title for their entire career and everybody knows it. If an athlete enjoys it enough to keep doing it and/or makes enough money at it to make it worthwhile, then they will probably continue, whether or not they are in title contention.
Promoters have their own matrix of incentives, which hardly need to be spelled out yet again.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If dana starts headlining Kimbo on PPVs as the “best boxer in MMA and possibly boxing” then maybe your argument holds up. But this is a TV show. I guarentee Kimbo will be on some PPVs and will be promoted, but he won’t be an official main event and he wont be billed as something he is not. EliteXC made him out to be something he was not and I do not believe Dana is doing the same thing.
by Dropkick434 on Sep 30, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the tough love for Kimbo? all the shit talking from when he signed with elite, um, that went out the window when Kimbo joined his team. I don’t get what’s so hard for you to understand. yes, it’s hypocritical, but that’s what you have to be when you are a fight promoter. You need to stop getting so upset about it.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I know its his job so that makes it right. Right? Nevermind.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is what it is.
Fight promoters are hypocrites, that’s it. You can’t expect them to tell the truth all the time because they would be doing a shitty job.
Do you really think Fedor won’t go back on his “dana treats the fighters like shit” comments the second he gets in the UFC?
It’s how the business works, it’s a waste of your energy to get so upset about it, because it’s always going to happen.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes it predictible, rational and silly to rail against.
On the flip-side, it also makes it fair game for tons of jokes and schadenfreude.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To bring him back after that, it probably seems prudent to downplay the loss.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
zZzZzZzZ
… huh … is the fight over? Did I miss it? /sarcasm
Congrats, Roy. You are so enormous that your gut can pin people. I suppose that’s a strategy but it’s never one that’s going to make you a popular fighter.
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by azruavatar on Sep 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Easy now, you can only fighter bash Tim Sylvia on this site….everyone else is off limits
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if you do get a response, it will not be the response you wanted.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats fine. its only hurts the community not me…he can ban me if he wants…i just want an answer….
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we'll be seeing a lot less of you in the future...
Not that I disagree with your point, but the Powers-That-Be tend not to like doing this in public…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's fine by me...
I dont mind the no fighter bashing policy at all…but it has to be across the board.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Sep 30, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was unimpressive
and full of himself….
its kinda sad that it was hyped so much
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's not really fighter bashing
he did pin him down with the belly :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol the other crucifix victim
i coulda sworm someone said her earlier a better skilled fighter could’ve attempted to get out of it
and attempt a sub..
gsp penn > kimbo/roy
cept more gut
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still a fan
He dominated Kimbo and got a round 2 ref stoppage.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Que?
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by azruavatar on Sep 30, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why you trying to keep fat people down? What’s up with that? Can’t they have a piece, or three, of the pie, too?
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
gravity kept his ass down
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did enjoy that the first thing on Roy's mind was
getting fed again. He’s one step away from being one of those people that can’t extricate themselves from their sofa.
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by azruavatar on Sep 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy will eat his way to the UFC HW championship and rub his belly in your face after every victory.
The man has skills.
Most everyone applauded Brock for his victory over Mir, which was almost the exact same thing. Granted, the punches were a lot harder coming from Brock, but oh well.
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by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize that
this
Granted, the punches were a lot harder coming from Brock
is an important distinction, right?
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by azruavatar on Sep 30, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but lay on fighter X and punch him was essentially the same strategy employed.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but there is a huge difference between one and the other.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other than the power? What? Brock used a half-nelson type hold to immobilize Mir and Roy used a crucifix on Kimbo. They both punched/slapped their way to victory.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is fun, lets keep going. Matt Hughes was on top of Royce Gracie and punching him, so that fight was just like this one too.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keith Hackney punch-slapped Joe Son a bunch of times!!
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooooh how about Pelligrino/Neer?!?!?!?!
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Sep 30, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sir, there were no punches in that fight.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just bitch slaps…
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 1, 2009 10:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
easy now
UFC HW championship? I find that unlikely.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFC
stands for Ultimate feeding championship, at least I think thats what he meant
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFC HW championship
nah, that sounds like a title fight to me…
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
I’m tired, it was a sad attempt at a joke.
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah me too
and my failure to understand your joke :P it’s past midnight here, I stayed up to see this and now I’m on my way out!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t mean it literally. Thought it was clear in the context of “eating his way to the championship” and “rubbing his belly in your face”.
Go back to the circus, bearded lady!
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh ease up. It was a a bit of hyperbole to go along with my defense of his eating.
Literal internets out to get me again.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
harder
is the key word.
Roy has skills, but to have two dominant positions and do NO damage…not good.
by Lynchman on Sep 30, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did exactly what he had to do to win the fight. He has a very proven track record and his career has been made, so far, on beating lower and mid tier HW’s and putting on good fights against top tier ones. Can’t blame the guy for cruising out a weird, 2-round reality show fight against a relative novice.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I highly doubt Kimbo would have gotten out, but that seemed like a BS stoppage. He was tapping his head and counting, no damage was being done. I learned Kimbo still doesn’t have a ground game and to me Roy was underwhelming.
by Sliup on Sep 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but Kimbo wasn’t trying to do anything to get out either. it was either let Roy hit him until the end of the round with those weak punches or stand the fight. And you can’t stand the fight while Roy is hitting him (even with weak punches).
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if that’s really fair though. I mean, there are probably a lot of fighters that would be screwed with Nelson on top of them.
I’m not saying Kimbo will submit anyone else, but saying he has no ground game would be like saying someone can’t wrestle because Brock outwrestled them.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
Kimbo wasn’t doing anything though at the bottom, he wasn’t moving or trying to move his hips. he left his guard open, wasn’t moving his arms. He was clueless on the ground…
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You rarely see someone in the UFC get caught in the crucifix, Roy had no resistance in passing guard and getting into that position.
by Sliup on Sep 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's List 'Em!
Hughes/Penn 2…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually....
Spladle! (I think)
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe I had time to find the .gif before anybody else
Goodridge/Herrera. Elbowned.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aw. Image fail. You good people know exactly the fight I’m talking about though.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inability to intelligently defend oneself
is the main criteria for a referee stoppage, not the amount of damage that has accrued.
by Scott Haber on Sep 30, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to be hurt to not be able to intelligently defend yourself. Kimbo’s inability to defend himself had more to do with positioning, he still had all his wits. Like I said Kimbo wasn’t going to get out of the crucifix the fight was all but over over, but pinning someone to the ground shouldn’t lead to a stoppage, this isn’t wrestling.
by Sliup on Sep 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fight could have gone on. However, Kimbo wasn’t getting up from that, and there wouldn’t have been an extra round. That was over as soon as Nelson got that position.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forget who Joe Stevenson was fighting, but in one of his fights someone got him in a an omoplata and they just sat there for the last minute of the round. Joe couldn’t punch the guy because he couldn’t reach him (he wasn’t getting hit) but he wasn’t “intelligently defending himself” because he wasn’t doing anything to get out of the hold, so the fight shouldn’t have been stopped.
The ref is supposed to stop the fight to prevent the guy from actually getting knocked out, if you aren’t getting hurt, you don’t need to intelligently defend yourself.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was Tibau
and you could also argue that Stevenson was intelligently defending himself, because he knew the omoplata wasn’t even close to tapping him, and he figured he could just sit there until Tibau gave it up.
by Scott Haber on Sep 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
judging by the way Kimbo stood after the end of the round and after teh fight you could say the same thing there.
I’m not saying that it’s a bad stoppage, I’m just saying that the person being hurt needs to come into play before we start worrying about the definition of intelligent defense.
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Roy should be a little embarrassed he wasn’t able to submit a relative neophyte. But otherwise, can he be blamed for implementing a basically foolproof strategy? It’s not his fault Kimbo couldn’t do anything to stop him. A more experienced fighter might have tried an escape that would have created an opening for a submission. Hell, I don’t know. But Roy had to know it would be a humiliating loss. So he played it safe. I’m cool with that.
by JRN on Sep 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ins’t this supposed to be a few dozens comments above?
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris gets it
This is going to be a BE meme whether anyone else likes it or not
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Sep 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, I give...
230 :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Kimbo sure as shit needs to keep working his ground game, but that stoppage left me feeling the same way I did in the Florian/Lauzon fight – wasn’t that also stopped by Herb Dean?
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by jemaleddin on Sep 30, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so I know fighter bashing isn't allowed
how about ref bashing?
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Perfectly fine. Just keep your criticisms to their job performance and not, like, Josh Rosenthal’s tattoos.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll keep it civil
I just want to know why did herb not stop the fight at the end of the first, if he was so willing to stop the fight under the exact same conditions in the second?
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because of the amount of time left, and perhaps subconsciously/implicitly because he knew there wouldn’t be a third round if he let it go on anyway?
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In his defense
…which pains me to say, there was a long time left in the fight in the second and not much in the first.
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by jemaleddin on Sep 30, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
both good points
@ capital L and jemaleddin
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
However
In a platonic-ideal of “when to stop a fight” sense, I am quite sympathetic to the idea that it was an early stoppage.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
I know there was little to no damage, but seriously how long can someone not “defend” themselves and not have the ref stop the fight, Kimbo was going no where and was doing absolutely nothing to improve.
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But let’s say he wasn’t hitting him – how long would you have to immobilize somebody to get a stoppage. (And if he wasn’t hurting him, he might as well have not been hitting him,)
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by jemaleddin on Oct 1, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(And if he wasn’t hurting him, he might as well have not been hitting him,)
Not exactly true—he threw enough to prevent the ref from standing them up. Indeed, he convinced the ref to stop the fight.
Let’s say a guy is clearly winning the stand-up but isn’t throwing the kinds of shots that will end a fight—should the ref warn him for stalling?
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 1, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I don't see nearly enough stallings
I would have DQ’d both guys in last week’s fight. Standing around hands on knees while the other guy wanders around catching his breath? No contest that shit.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 1, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn’t exactly address the situation I posited above however. If a guy is slapping his opponent around, controlling the ring, and not taking any damage, it would be bad reffing to warn him—and he’d likely be on his way to a clear decision victory. Similarly, if a guy has a completely dominating position and his opponent is simply trapped, I don’t think that guy really has to do much for a ref to consider him active. It might not end the fight, and it might not win him many fans—perhaps most critically it will not please his bosses, especially in the UFC—but it seems valid enough for me.
It’s preferable that fighters look to end fights in addition to merely winning them, but I tend to give a lot of leeway, particularly when a guy thoroughly stymies his opponent. As Antonio McKee put it: “tf you can’t stop what I do than it’s kind of hard for me to stop doing it.”
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 1, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow what a lame fight. Although of the three losers from team Jackson he was the best loser so no even if he his name wasn’t kimbo slice he would be comin back when that other dude gets hurt next week.
by billthemarine on Sep 30, 2009 11:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
good point.
not on the lame part, but Kimbo still looking better than the other two guys.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think half those pitty pat gnp shots were hitting Roys belly.Props to him for doing just what he said.But why not put some nuts into those punches.
by E.Nightmare on Sep 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
like Vince
slap chop “you’ll love my nuts” nuts?
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those 1 or 2 things between your legs that help you decide to punch like a man or woman.:)
by E.Nightmare on Sep 30, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
I’m all misses tonight in the joke department
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its gotta be me im not on here enough to catch on to all the jokes.
by E.Nightmare on Sep 30, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing how lots of non-BE regulars came out to live blog with us.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m usually on this site everyday, I just don’t post much.
by Sliup on Sep 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo does that to ppl!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Sep 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo = More BE Hits = More Bread!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Sep 30, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone loves sandwhiches
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like mine with the bread on the inside.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Sep 30, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not surprised one bit. People expecting more are kinda clueless. Well roy could have submitted kimbo, I wasn’t expecting a crusifix, but that’s it. The momement roy felt the heat on the feets he took it one the ground.
And why is dana bitching?
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana is bitching to help justify bringing Kimbo back.
More Kimbo = More ratings
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Sep 30, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, like he got robbed or something. YOur right that makes sense. I never think about those stuffs.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 30, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to bring Kimbo back with maximum oomph, you’d have to downplay the significance of the loss.
Kimbo is going to get absolutely creamed by any mainstream sports media that bothers to comment on it tomorrow, however, as will Nelson, the UFC, and MMA in general.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Dana is just as bad as “those fucking scumbags” from EXC.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the whole milking of kimbo’s return is kinda lame.. but.. Elite? i wouldn’t go that far. haha. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh that was just an example. Kimbo seems liek a alright dude but this isnt about cool down to earth guys. It would have been nice for Dana to have kept his word and only have real MMA fighter in UFC.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dangit!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, elite, the people who never on earth would have let this fight happen
by Phildo on Sep 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody is worse than the Shaw family. Nobody.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Sep 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Shaws would’ve played this up as an upset loss for Kimbo.
by Tonley on Sep 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it had more to do with the way Roy was talking after
He only beat Kimbo. What’s with all the King talk?
by zeroword on Sep 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The average viewer must hate nelson right now. Beating kimbo because your fat (probably all they understood) and asking for food, lol, they must hate him bad.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was calling out Jerry Lawler.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 30, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My ayee technique?????
at first it was dumb, but it’s actually pretty damned funny.
by proflex on Sep 30, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Face it
Kimbo sucks and has always sucked. They are making him out to appear humble. I love that. Wasn’t this the same guy hocking porn web sites and egging people to keep fighting after they were clearly outmatched on the street circuit? where is his buddy Mike from Reality Kings? That clown he was with in Elite XC?
He is a fraud. I like the fact that he appears to be listening to his coach but that could be editing, too. He’s worth making Dana a few bucks but really, he’s 35 and his skill set is very much limited.
by ThomasJ on Sep 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on
Overreact much? Give the guy a break, he lost to a better fighter.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
I’m being hard on him but I was always hard on him back before he ever agreed to TUF. Everyone knew he was a fraud. Why the sympathy now? Because Dana said it was OK to like him?
by ThomasJ on Sep 30, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he never did nothing to me. Why should I bother with hating on a peripheral athlete on a cable tv reality show.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Sep 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad you can’t make one yourself. I mean..C’mon.
by BNTHIS on Sep 30, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God forbid anyone try to make some money...
Are you being serious right now? What has HE ever done to warrant you saying this? I’m curious… He has never claimed to be an MMArtist, let alone a good one.
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Sep 30, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS
To be a fraud he would have had to misrepresent himself in some way. In this case, Kimbo has repeatedly said that he is not an MMA superstar and is just trying to learn.
by zeroword on Sep 30, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps ThomasJ knows something...
…about the RealityKings? lol.
But in all seriousness, man needs to chill. Kimbo never said he was god’s gift to MMA. It was ELITE that put him there….
by BNTHIS on Sep 30, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one really hated Kimbo before
They hated the way he was marketed. We always felt that he was jumped to main event status too soon, and we were annoyed with having to constantly tell the kids that no, Kimbo is not the #1 pound for pound fighter in the world.
But he was interesting, and getting on TUF to work his way into the UFC is the perfect place for him. And feeding him good opponents instead of names way part their primes is a good way of handling him. That’s why we like him.
by Shaun32887 on Oct 1, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s not a fraud. He just can’t wrestle.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Sep 30, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will get better. Like you said he just needs to learn atleast a couple ways to get to guard or escape.He has too much hype to live up to.His standup is fine though.
by E.Nightmare on Sep 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are a lot of fighters that have that problem. Kongo has been training wrestling technique for years now and he still can’t wrestle and will probably never be able to. That doesn’t mean he can’t put on an exciting fight against another non-grappler.
The UFC can still find opponents for Kimbo to put him on PPV, they just have to be selective about it. They were able to build Kongo up quite nicely after he got out-wrestled by Heath Herring…and getting out-wrestled by herring is a bad sign.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Sep 30, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s fraud. I bet he loses on the Finale, AND STILL fights 3-4 more times in the UFC.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Sep 30, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that is true, then the UFC is full of frauds yet they still have the best talent in MMA.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Sep 30, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs