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USAT/SBN September MMA Consensus Rankings: Light Heavyweight

Rank Fighter % Promotion Last Rank
1 Lyoto Machida 100 UFC 1
2 Quinton Jackson 94 UFC 2
3 Rashad Evans 93 UFC 3
4 Mauricio Rua 83 UFC 4
5 Forrest Griffin 79 UFC 5
6 Gegard Mousasi 63 Strikeforce 11
7 Thiago Silva 62 UFC 13
8 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 60 UFC 7
9 Anderson Silva 59 UFC 10
10 Rich Franklin 47 UFC 8
11 Luiz Cane 44 UFC 9
12 Keith Jardine 41 UFC 6
13 Dan Henderson 33 UFC 16
14 Chuck Liddell 25 UFC 15
15 Wanderlei Silva 25 UFC 14
16 Renato Sobral 23 Strikeforce 12
17 Brandon Vera 22 UFC 20
18 Jon Jones 21 UFC 17
19 Matt Hamill 18 UFC 18
20 Vladimir Matyushenko 18 UFC 19
21 Tito Ortiz 17 UFC 21
22 Vitor Belfort 16 UFC NR
23 Sokoudjou 16 DREAM 22
24 Paulo Filho 16 DREAM NR
25 Mark Coleman 15 UFC 23

Rankings compiled by Richard Wade.

Despite the fact that October's UFC 104 will see #1 Lyoto Machida defend his UFC title against #4 Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, the division has been dominated by talk of who's not going to be fighting anytime soon. That would be #2 Quinton "Rampage" Jackson who has declared himself retired after a falling out with Dana White over the A-Team movie.

This leaves #3 Rashad Evans in limbo and out of a potentially huge money fight coming off of the two coaching the biggest rated TUF series ever. Rumors have matched up Rashad against #7 Thiago Silva, but that seems like a high-risk, low-reward bout for the ex-champ.

He's in good company with #5 Forrest Griffin in a post-Anderson Silva funk, #6 Gegard Mousasi injured and having to opt out of the DREAM Super-Hulk tournament, #9 Anderson Silva who's just a very dangerous dilettante in this division, and #10 Rich Franklin whose UFC 103 loss leaves him more betwixt and between than ever.

#8 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira is expected to make his UFC debut against #11 Luiz Cane but Nogueira has already said he won't fight his friend Lyoto Machida for the title. As much as I love Little Nog, I'd hate to see Cane knocked off as a potential contender for nothing.

Another legend will be coming to the UFC 205lb division at UFC 105 when ex-champ Randy Couture makes his return against #17 Brandon Vera. This is Vera's biggest chance to get over as a contender in the UFC's toughest division. It's also Couture's last chance for a title run. Should make for compelling viewing free on Spike TV.

One bout that will have an impact on the future of the division is the #18 Jon Jones vs #19 Matt Hamill fight at the TUF 10 Finale on December 5. If Jones wins he'll be on the fast-track to contender status. That might be too much too soon for the talented youngster but Matt Hamill should present a very formidable challenge for Jones.

UFC 106 will be co-headlined by former UFC champs #21 Tito Ortiz and #25 Mark Coleman in a bout that has more commercial than competitive relevance. If Randy Couture loses at UFC 105 we could very well see the loser of Ortiz-Coleman face Couture in another lucrative but irrelevant bout.

If #23 Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou wins the DREAM super-hulk tournament as he should, Strikeforce might be able to present him as a semi-legitimate challenger for Mousasi's title. But given the UFC's utter dominance of the division they are looking at some slim pickings. 

Star-divide

Based on the premise that all MMA rankings are subjective but that it’s still useful and informative to know who the online MMA community as a whole ranks as the best fighters in MMA, we collect and average the rankings of the top MMA websites to produce our consensus rankings.

We compile the top MMA rankings from each of our sources and award 25 points for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. This formula ensures that each ranking site awards the same number of total points regardless of how many fighters they choose to rank. Each fighter’s total is divided by the number of possible points to determine their standing in the Consensus Rankings.

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Gegard must feel lonely.

Keep firing Assholes!

The Leafs are back!

by Ubernoober on Oct 1, 2009 3:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fighting Mike Whitehead isn’t exactly very appealing. I can see Strikeforce trying to sign Ricardo Arona and Paulo Filho to fight “The Dreamcatcher.”

by chrisbboy82 on Oct 1, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They wasted a space on Belfort.

Probably those rankings with rules that catch-weights are supposed to matter for the heavier weight class?

I wonder how the rankings would change after the Vera/Couture matchup.. Where does the winner go?

by Anton Tabuena on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Randy up.
Vera down.

Keep firing Assholes!

The Leafs are back!

by Ubernoober on Oct 1, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn’t make sense. Except for MMAWeekly, winners of matches are typically ranked higher than losers.

Vera’s going to smash Randy, you see.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 1, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably those rankings with rules that catch-weights are supposed to matter for the heavier weight class?

I thought those were supposed to be the rules for all the rankings. But considering Franklin is at #10 and Belfort is at #22 despite Belfort just beating Franklin in an effectively LHW fight, I’m guessing not everybody follows those rules.

by JRN on Oct 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

each ranking system

has their own rule set or is entirely arbitrary or has a rule set that is selectively enforced.

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by Kid Nate on Oct 1, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“or has a rule set that is selectively enforced.”

Or in other words has no rule set at all right?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 1, 2009 5:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah.

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by Richard Wade on Oct 1, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s kind of strange to see the Lightheavyweight Division not have any real challengers in the wings right now after the Machida vs Rua fight (which I expect Machida to win). As far as possibilities, Cane, Couture, or Vera seem to be the only available challengers. Cane has a very tough test, and I can see the UFC give a Title shot to either winner of the Couture vs Vera fight.

by chrisbboy82 on Oct 1, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the winner of Rampage/Rashad

was supposed to be that contender — obviously they were betting on Rampage.

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by Kid Nate on Oct 1, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was so excited for strikeforce....

and now i’m facing a moussassi v. whitehead fight? good lord.

by pmac06340 on Oct 1, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I threw up in my mouth a little bit

when I heard about that fight

by cagefightonacid on Oct 1, 2009 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Ok so

Mousasi beats previously ranked #12 Babalu at LHW and Anderson beats previously (and current) ranked #5 Griffin at LHW and yet Mousasi is #6 and Anderson is #9? Where’s the logic in that? Are people counting his win over Hunt as a LHW fight? If so, I see your Hunt and raise you an Irvin.

Kuwabara Kuwabara

by J. B. Maddox on Oct 1, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anderson is hurt because most sites

(even some with stated policies of ranking fighters in the weight class they last fought in) rank him solely at middleweight. The way we weight our system, not being ranked by a number of sources really hurts you.
The one thing I don’t think the consensus rankings really accurately reflect is these fighters who jump between divisions.

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by Kid Nate on Oct 1, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It makes no sense to rank Anserson solely at MW when he actually has more LHW fights than Mousasi.

Kuwabara Kuwabara

by J. B. Maddox on Oct 1, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

take that up with the rankers

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by Kid Nate on Oct 1, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But it’s so much easier just to bitch at you guys Nate.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 1, 2009 5:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

What makes Anderson even more impressive is over the last three years he has also beaten the #10 (Rich Franklin) ranked LHW twice and the #13 (Dan Henderson) LHW. Sure it was at MW but if he had beaten them at LHW wouldn’t it be conceivable that he’d should be #2 or #3 right now?

by nottheface on Oct 1, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Jones moved down a spot, boo. Oh well when he beats Hamill he should get a decent boost then I want to see him fight Jardine next spring.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 1, 2009 12:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

They are now training partners, so unless Jon Jones is a better man than the rest of the JSF guys, it won’t happen.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Oct 1, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shit I forgot about that. Maybe Thiago Silva after Rashad smashes him.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 1, 2009 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling we will be seeing Lyoto at #1 for a long time.

for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.

by Bandaka on Oct 1, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we'll see

I think Shogun is a very formidable test for him. I also think that a really powerful wrestler — something this division is oddly deficient in — could give him fits. Jon Jones might be the one to do it but that’s a way’s off.
Rampage under Juanito might be the ideal challenger for Lyoto. But clearly Quinton’s not focused on technique at the moment.

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by Kid Nate on Oct 1, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it me or has everyone at LHW gone striker happy?

for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.

by Bandaka on Oct 1, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's not you

Rashad used to be the guida of LHW, can’t think of many pure grapplers at that div.

by cagefightonacid on Oct 1, 2009 1:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, Mark Coleman

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 1, 2009 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying there aren't any

we’re talking about the trend of favoring striking, ie Rashad Evans…. I don’t even count Arona an mma fighter, he’s like negative kimbo to me (one dimensional). I’m not gonna bash him but I will say he’s the least impressive fighter I’ve ever seen.

by cagefightonacid on Oct 1, 2009 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

he beat Wandy

back when Wandy was THE MAN.

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by Kid Nate on Oct 1, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and gave Fedor a hell of a fight

that many think should’ve gone his way

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by Kid Nate on Oct 1, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fell asleep on wandy, not much of a beating

by cagefightonacid on Oct 1, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s not many…. and Randy stood in his last 2 fights

by cagefightonacid on Oct 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Grappling only takes place on the ground?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 1, 2009 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

oh shush

you’re being nitpicky…. we were talking about fighters being “striker-happy”

by cagefightonacid on Oct 1, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion great rankings like always probably the best out there ? The only problem I have is Jardines Ranking at 12, he should fit in somewhere between 14 to 17. Yes I know he fights top competition all the time but he has one win in his last 4 fights and 2 wins in his last 6 fights a close split decision over Vera and the split decision over Chuck.

by Shocbomb on Oct 1, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Please...

Gegard has beat O-N-E LHW and he’s that highly ranked?! ONE guy! Really? Is he good? YES! Should he be ranked highly in the middleweight division? YES! But c’mon he beat ONE LHW. Wait til the guy gets some wins rolling at 205 before you rank him that high.

by KKamikaze on Oct 1, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good point ^

DAM I did not even click him me how highly ranked Mousasi is until you brought it up. And just like you KKamikaze I agree 100%. Sure do I think Mousasi will be a future mainstay even in the top 5 at LHW – yes I do. But right now a ranking at the 6th spot is just way to high for only having the Babalu victory. It seems the ranking spot is more on future potential then on his accomplishments so far in the LHW devision ?

by Shocbomb on Oct 1, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's carrying over his accomplishments as a MW

in a lot of the rankings and Babalu was top ten when Mousasi beat him.

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by Kid Nate on Oct 1, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t rember that many rankings at all that had Babalu in the top 10 ? Top15 yes not top 10 though

by Shocbomb on Oct 2, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

these rankings had him at 9 in june and 10 in july.

by Phildo on Oct 2, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mousasi is ranked a little high, but I don’t think he should be lower because he’s only fought once in the division. When your one fight is a victory over a highly-ranked guy, you become highly-ranked. Seems simple enough to me.

by JRN on Oct 1, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you beat a top guy in one division without breaking a sweat and are already a top guy in another division is when you sky rocket in the rankings no matter how many fights you have in it.

"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage

by TearsofaClown on Oct 1, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

cane

seems to be written off by a lot of fans… he is one of the toughest fighters I’ve ever seen, and has a granite chin. rogerio can be knocked out and I think this fight will be close, barring those comments about not wanting to fight brazilians having an affect on the fight. sorry, terrible sentence phrasing

by cagefightonacid on Oct 1, 2009 1:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Who is writing him off? He may not be as high profile as some of the other top ten guys but I don’t think anyone considers the fight a gimme for Lil Nog.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 1, 2009 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

did you want me to cut and paste things people have said? people have said that he’s scared to fight him because he expressed dissatisfaction with the match-up or that he will get walked through easily….

by cagefightonacid on Oct 1, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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