Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort Agree to Fight at UFC 108
by Nick Thomas on Sep 25, 2009 7:50 PM EDT
in MMA News
Email
Print
According to the LATimes.com:
Ultimate Fighting Championship President Dana White told The Times his organization has struck verbal deals for Anderson Silva to defend his middleweight championship against Vitor Belfort on Jan. 2 in Las Vegas.Rumored card so far:
- Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort
- Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva
Add in Dan Henderson vs. Nate Marquardt and that's what I call a stacked New Years card.
HT: SouthAlaBamaRampage, GoldenOldie
232 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
That's the way to start off the new year
Any news on Hendo and his contract. If Vitor found a way to win I would love to see Belfort-Henderson 2.
I really have my doubts about Rashad-Thiago. Sounds like a bluff, also a bad fight I think.
I don’t think they have much for this card. I believe Hendo-Marquardt will be on here too. Do they have another big fight? I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to get Chuck to fight here.
Who else do they have to fight Rashad? Maybe a rematch with Forrest? Of course I think they’ll give Forrest someone easier to get back on track. Who does that leave?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
Well in my opinion
best case scenario is you get Rampage back on board and have Rashad/Rampage headline you superbowl show.
Franklin or Hendo would be a possibility if Hendo isnt gonna fight Nate but I dont think those are better choices than Thiago.
If they did a Forrest rematch I would be pissed. I hate rematches happening with a year of the original. Try like 2 years for a rematch and build the hype back up.
Rampage isn’t fighting on the SB show. So who does Rashad fight?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you typed wrong, I believe A Silva vs Belfort, Marquardt and Hendo will be on this card.
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Sep 25, 2009 10:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Somewhere, Dan Henderson just used an entire box of tissues.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
The card isn’t THAT good.
"of a world thats doing its best, night and day,
to make me everybody else"
by Lay 'n' Pray on Sep 25, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t understand your reply. What does Hendo not getting the next title shot have to do with the 108 card?
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Sep 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was meant to be that he jizzed over how good the 108 card looks so far, using a box of tissues. It’s not funny when you have to explain it.
"of a world thats doing its best, night and day,
to make me everybody else"
by Lay 'n' Pray on Sep 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He cries because he doesn’t get the title shot, not because the 4 fighters card is great.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
Yeah I know..
It was meant to be a joke. I still think him and Marquardt need to fight first to decide the contender, so he shouldn’t be crying too much.
"of a world thats doing its best, night and day,
to make me everybody else"
by Lay 'n' Pray on Sep 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok
I won’t cry that’s for sure. Marquardt vs Hendo can be awesome. Two great fighters, relevant, balanced, a great bout.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
Indeed
plus it makes a ton of sense for them to have the top contender fight and for Vitor to slip straight into a title shot, as a rematch against either of them won’t a huge draw at all. If Silva is to win this which is suspect he will, you can bet his next card he will co main event with a huge fight, to carry the weight of his fight.
"of a world thats doing its best, night and day,
to make me everybody else"
by Lay 'n' Pray on Sep 25, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Vitor wins round 1
Silva puts him to sleep in round 2
Depending on how Tito does
I wonder if he would be game to jump back in that quickly to get his rematch with Rashad?
Is that who I think it is?
Miguel Torres- "I'm gonna give him a taste of the East Chicago Waterfall."
Rashad Evans- "That sounds disgusting."
MUTHA F**KIN' STANKY!!
Miguel Torres- "I'm gonna give him a taste of the East Chicago Waterfall."
Rashad Evans- "That sounds disgusting."
I miss Stanky
IMO they should have made him a permanent member of TUF.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Damn! I thought it was Timothy Leary
by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If this was boxing Anderson would be trying to negotiate a fight with Jon Fitch, or maybe Kenny Florian.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
I think this card ends up looking like this…
Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort
Forrest Griffin vs. Rich Franklin
Matt Hughes vs TBD
Demian Maia vs Akiyama
Gray Maynard vs Sean Sherk
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 25, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
That's a Sexy card.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Sep 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
geez man
i like those matchups
by cagefightonacid on Sep 25, 2009 8:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
thats a great match
cuz chuck wont get put to sleep
Yea. The results of next weeks TUF
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
No… All i know is Chuck is definitely coming back.
If chuck vs forrest is on NYE or on Super Bowl weekend I have no clue.
Brandon or Kerry?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
ECW Style 4-Way Dance
Miguel Torres- "I'm gonna give him a taste of the East Chicago Waterfall."
Rashad Evans- "That sounds disgusting."
i'm afraid to ask......
La naiba cu Monkey Rally !!!!!
by Captain Fubar on Sep 25, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Who?
Miguel Torres- "I'm gonna give him a taste of the East Chicago Waterfall."
Rashad Evans- "That sounds disgusting."
LMAO now I see it.
Miguel Torres- "I'm gonna give him a taste of the East Chicago Waterfall."
Rashad Evans- "That sounds disgusting."
do u know if.......
chuck is gonna actually try some GnP or is he happy gettin KOed again
I’d think KOS vs Rumble if Rumble wins
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 25, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t mind seeing Georges St. Pierre on this card either, although I don’t know who Zuffa could match him with.
can’t fight til feb
"of a world thats doing its best, night and day,
to make me everybody else"
by Lay 'n' Pray on Sep 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP will likely get the Swick/Daley winner on SB weekend, unless Almeida beats Fitch. In that case, GSP vs Almeida in February
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
For some reason I like the GSP/Almeida fight... Vewwy vewwy intewesting...
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Sep 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
A.Silva
I believe the days of Anderson playing around in the ring is over, he kicked it into gear the moment the bell rung for the Griffin fight…If they can make this card it’d be a fucking great way to start the year
I really am not interested in Vitor being thrown around by the UFC and him fighting Anderson right away. I feel its a bit premature considering his first fight back although won in spectacular fashion was a catch weight fight. In my opinion catch weight fights should not determine the number one contender. Contenders yes but the number one? No. It doesnt make much sense aside from a promotions point of view. From a fighters perspective I believe Vitor should fight Okami and if he wins then pit him against the winner of Marquardt vs Henderson. If he wins both those fights @ 185 lbs. Then I believe his fight with Anderson would make the most sense. As of now the UFC makes fights happen that they think are going to be good fights not what makes sense as far as rankings. Any how I would take Belfort via 2nd or 3rd round KO. Anderson has never fought any body in our out of the UFC as fast and hard hitting as Vitor. Anderson definetely is not as fast as Vitor and neither is Machida. I think the only reason Anderson makes it out of the first round in this fight is because he’s experienced and has good elusiveness.
Agreed
Finally someone who’s not completely on board with Vitor fighting Silva so fast. I’m a huge Belfort fan and would love to see him get a title shot but don’t set the guy up for failure. He just arrived back to the UFC and I was hoping he’d get 2-3 fights before getting a title shot. He wasn’t necessarily fighting top notch competition in other organizations so he hasn’t really been tested till the Franklin fight which wasn’t much.
Since it’s obviously going to happen now, I’d like to see Belfort win but win convincingly. I think Belfort is fully capable of dethroning Silva as long as he is fully committed to training and preparing. I hope for a good fight either way.
Favorite Blogs:
www.spongereport.com
www.yardbarker.com
www.milehighreport.com
www.bleacherreport.com
by brohamm1978 on Sep 25, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
oh man at last I am totally against Hendo and marquardt being screwed out of a title shot by a guy who’s had two fights at 85. I can’t believe people on this site are supporting this fight. I mean seriously what is the justification for him to get this fight that fast
He murdered Lindland and Rich Franklin…
Hendo barely beat Franklin and Okami couldnt beat Franklin.
Hendo and Nate havent been screwed out of a title shot… they both had one and got raped.
Rematches normally are only mandatory for the Champ if he loses (ex. Rich lost and then he got a rematch).
Hendo vs Nate is a way more compelling fight than Hendo vs Anderson and Nate vs Anderson.
Vitor vs Anderson is a way more compelling matchup as well.
All this equals = Vitor vs Anderson and Hendo vs Nate.
by mmalogic on Sep 25, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how is it more compelling to screw two guys who have been working their asses off for a title shot? By your logic houston alexander would have been deserving of a title shot after his win over keith jardine. I would love to see hendo marquardt just as much as the next guy but skipping them over for a guy with two fights at 85 and are we forgetting that Hendo beat Belfort
By losing...
Nate screwed Nate
and Dan screwed Dan.
Just ask Earl Hebner.
The key thing here is that folks want to watch Henderson vs Nate and cant figure out which one should be the #1 contender without them fighting each other, either way one of the two are going to get a title shot after Silva’s next fight as always planned.
The biggest difference here is that instead of watching Silva fight a LHW or a HW in a fun but pointless fight now we get to watch him defend his belt twice before he retires (assuming he wins).
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
but fair is fair fans didn’t want to see silva fight Cote or Leites but the matches were set because they were the number one contenders
they should be is my point and all the support Vitor’s getting from the fans on this site is out of place
they should is correct
but seriously, I don’t feel like watching Hendo vs Silva II or Nate vs Silva II, they should fight each other before getting another shot (andy has 3 fights left on his contract before supposedly calling it quits). This is how most fans feels about it, and the UFC aren’t dumb, they give (most of the times) what the fans want, because unhappy fans = lower bank accounts for the UFC. The UFC is a business, and like all private business they go where the money is.
and like all privatebusinessbusinessess they go where the money is.
I’m trying to work on my English :P
since when does any one care about the UFC making money? Seriously MMA isn’t going anywhere if the UFC went out of business tomorrow someone else would take their place with a similar product. My point is there is a lot of hardcore fans on this site and it absolutely blows my mind how many support someone walking on and passing up two guys who are more deserving of a title shot.
if the UFC went out of business tomorrow someone else would take their place with a similar product.
I’m not gonna lie, that made me laugh :P
You couldn’t be farther from the truth here. UFC gone, MMA is going to have a hard time staying alive (at least today), maybe that won’t be the case in 5 to 10 years.
My point is there is a lot of hardcore fans on this site and it absolutely blows my mind how many support someone walking on and passing up two guys who are more deserving of a title shot.
they had their shot, anderson has 3 fights left, I rather see him fight someone he hasn’t fought before in Vitor (who is dangerous) than wasting two fights with Nate and Hendo again. Chopping that down to one fight is all good by me.
MMA would absolutely survive without the UFC the fact that the UFC is so successful is proof enough that the product sells.
They had their shot yes and given their recent win streaks they deserve another one.
tell that to IFL, to Affliction (who btw had the best HW division at the time) and EliteXC (who had the biggest draw at the time), and Pride (that was just as successful then as the UFC is now).
nothing sells itself, the MMA product is not going to sell itself. The need for a good marketing is what is going to sell a product, and the UFC are geniuses on the marketing department.
They had their shot yes and given their recent win streaks they deserve another one.
even at the cost of spending all of anderson’s last fights?
Why not at the cost of his last fights? Your still screwing two guys who deserve the title shot more
Nate lossed almost 3 years ago if you don’t think that wasn’t that long ago then Vitor’s loss to Henderson was 3 years ago under your logic doesn’t that DQ him for a title shot
nate’s loss was two years ago, not three… and even if that was three years ago, we’re talking about two different fighters, the loss Vitor has to Hendo does not DQ him for a title shot because he’s been undefeated since that loss three years ago and never fought anderson.
“MMA would absolutely survive without the UFC the fact that the UFC is so successful is proof enough that the product sells.”
So what happened to Pride, Bodog, EliteXC, Affliction, etc.? That is a pretty ridiculous statement to make, MMA has survived mainly because of the hard work Dana and the brothers Fertitta have put in to get it legalized and keep a healthy business model in place.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hahaha so if the UFC competing with them had nothing to do with any of those businesses going under? Yes the Fertitta’s and Dana put a lot of work and deserve the credit for getting it legalized and promoting the hell out of it but now that they have it’s pretty clear that MMA isn’t going anywhere.
Those companies killed themselves, obviously competing against the UFC didn’t help but that’s not the main reason they failed.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not in the way it is now with 1-2 major cards a month and top contenders in each class fighting each other.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 1:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you don’t think someone would be able to continue that especially with the UFC’s roster becoming free agents over night
Maybe…
But the UFC isn’t successful because MMA is huge. It is successful because it is a well run company. As an organization the UFC is very effective at keeping itself profitable.
Because none of that shit matters?
If you want to you can discredit anyone who is getting a title shot. It’s not like they’re giving the title shot to to some bum off the street. He’s a top 10 guy that hasn’t gotten destroyed by Anderson yet. It’s going to be an awesome fight, what else matters?
The same way Anderson Silva is a top 10 guy with two fights at 205?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The same way as many folks see Mousasi as a top 10 guy in LHW with his one win and A. Silva in LHW with his 2 wins in that division. Talent is more important then how many fights they have at that weight.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
The level of competition your fighting against is more important then talent if that were true Jon Jones would be a top 5 205er. Take a look at who Vitor’s fights at 85 are terry martin is not even a top 20 fighter and an aging Matt Lindland who is arguably a top 15 fighter.
what were they ranked when the fights happened?
If we go by this logic Fedor probably shouldn’t be ranked at all based on where the majority of his past opponents are currently ranked.
Lindland was considered the best MW in the world by some (I think they’re morons) but he was a top fighter when that fight happened.
Wouldn’t go that far with the Fedor comment, I mean Andrei is still a top 10 and Sylvia is still top 20.
but i get what your saying.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
who considered him the best in the world at that time? As i remember it Anderson was battling fedor for the number one p4p spot. And one win over an arguably top ten competitor still doesn’t justify you skipping over two guys who cleaned out the division and one of which has a win over you
How did those two clean out the division if they haven’t fought each other?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
let me put it this way
According to Belfort, he’s part of God’s plan. If he’s getting the next title shot, it’s because God wants him to, therefore, it was God’s decision and God is always right! Are you against God’s plan or something?!?!
Answer my question first.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 1:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
haha well answer mine, naw I’m not saying these guys are going out and beating the crap out of everybody your right they haven’t really but there are certain things you do for a title shot and belfort just hasn’t done it yet he doesn’t deserve it as much as those two
Ok, tell me this- who would you pick in a fight between Belfort and Hendo or between Belfort and Marquardt?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's true
Matt Serra also beat Georges St Pierre.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You think Jones could beat anyone in the top 5 atm? The man has a ton of talent and has a tremendous upside but he is not ready for that yet. Unlike Belfort who has been a force at 205 and is looking even better at 185.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t say he could I said if rankings were based only on talent Jones would be top 10. I don’t deny Vitor is a force at 85 I just don’t think he deserves a shot over marquardt or hendo
And i don’t see why Hendo would deserve a shot over Belfort or Marquardt.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
well I don’t think he deserves it more then Marquardt but he did already beat Belfort and has a lot more wins at 85 against tougher competition
Yea but that was 3 years ago at LHW, he does have more wins in MW but it’s all about what they have done lately.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
okay lately Vitor’s gotten two wins at middleweight neither of which against guys that are considered top 10 opponents.
You like to talk a lot about each division separately. So let me tell you this, Hendo has only two wins at 185 after the loss to Silva, one to Paul-harris and one to Bisping, that does not really scream "deserving of a title shot". Nate has three, one to Kampman (not really impressive), to Gouveia, and one to Maia (most impressive). These guys did not clean out the MW division, Anderson did, by taking them out as well as other top contenders out of the way.
haha finally someone brings something to the debate thank you. Your right Anderson should have the credit for cleaning out the middleweight division after all he beat Marquardt and Henderson but the two have put in a lot more work and are far more deserving of a title shot because they are consistently beating top ten competition in their division Vitor can’t say the same
what is consistent? They have 1 top 10 win each (going by your theory that Franklin doesn’t count because it wasn’t at 185.
It should count because the fight happened, but hat’s not what I’m saying.
You keep acting like these 2 guys have destroyed the MW division when it’s categorically not true.
And you can say Lindland isn’t top 20 all you want, that doesn’t change the fact that he was considered higher ranked back then.
But I don’t look at things separately by division, Lindland was top 10 MW weather people likes to admit or not, and Franklin was also top 10 (even though they fought at catch weight). Those are legit competition, the only set back is that only one happened under the UFC banner.
I get your point I really do but the Lindland fight was less then a year ago and he’s not ranked top 20 anymore in hind sight that win isn’t that impressive and I’m not saying Marquardt and Hendo’s wins are either but the two are facing alot stiffer competition and are more deserving
Palhares is not top , Bisping is not top 10 and he imo he should have lost to Franklin, is that impressive?
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Bisping is higher than Lidland.
Lindland is higher than Palhares.
Martin is higher than Palhares.
If we do it like this in the rankings than it comes down to Franklin which they both beat him, i dont know about you but id go with the knockout over the controversial win.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand what your point and there is no ranking for catch weight.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is how can you say Palhares ranks below martin or lindland and I didn’t say catchweight’s shouldn’t count for something but they shouldn’t put you in contention
Lol that’s not really worth debating, Palbhares and Martin are both pushovers, clearing Lindland is better than both of them.
I didn’t say catchwights shouldn’t count for anything either, but beating the ex WW Champ by knockout which has only been done by two other men whom are both Champs is enough to push you over two men who have already had a chance for the title.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
haha I like your style yeah it’s not worth arguing but I think his win at a catchweight should put him on the radar not over the top I mean really no one win should
i agree, and if that’s the case then there should be only one true #1 contender and that’s Nate Marquardt.
Someone get Dana White on the phone and tell him we figured this out for him.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
haha you and orcus have got me laughing i like you guys but I don’t think I’ve ever seen you two on here granted i don’t usually check out the comments on stories unless they really peak my interest
Because he is?
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings
haha gotcha I was looking at light heavies for anderson but my point is why is the number 8 getting a shot over 2 and 3
Because 2 and 3 already got destroyed by number 1.
Should we just have Fitch and Alves get completely dominated for 5 rounds by GSP over and over again? or give someone else in the top 10 a shot when it can be done?
If Fitch and Alves start over and clean out their divisions then yes the fair thing to do is give them title shots
So beating Bisping and Palhares, and beating Gouveia and Maia are two separate instances of cleaning out their division?
who else should they have to beat to warrant a title shot? Seems to me like Belfort would have to beat one of them to get his shot. I won’t deny that the UFC’s middleweight division is kind of weak but those two are at the top of it not Belfort
When you factor in everything, the choice to me is Belfort.
Either way, it’s not a crime against humanity like you are making it out to be.
They all have similar records at 185, and Belfort hasn’t been destroyed by Silva, those 2 facts make it an ok choice, no one is getting screwed.
so if you were working for 3 years for something and a guy comes in and takes it from you wouldn’t piss you off. i don’t think it’s a crime against humanity but I don’t think it’s something people should support
no but in that time he’s been losing to Hendo and not fighting at 85 while marquardt’s been working for a title shot
haha what does that matter I’m not saying that should push him out of contention but it shouldn’t be forgotten after all the whole argument behind giving belfort a shot before Hendo or marquardt is that they already lossed
Just to clarify, in your magical 3 year window.
Hendo: 3-2, 2-1 at MW
Nate: 5-2, all at MW
Belfort: 5-0, 2-0 at MW
see above where i use the logic you used to discredit Belforts opponetns to discredit almost all of Nate and HEndos.
He’ll probably get a decent jump in the rankings after his KO of Rich.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 1:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If they would actually fight each other then he would probably jump one of them.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
haha even if the fight with Franklin counted it’s still one win and 3 fights at middleweight you guys are seriously arguing at this point just not to lose, you’ve gone from the fight will make more money to it makes a better fight to belfort has a better chance to they already had a chance i mean really I’m not living in a dream world here you guys are dillusional if you think one win should get a guy a title shot
Because if they fought today he most likely wouldn’t. Should Ryo Chonan be ranked ahead of Anderson Silva?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 8:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
absolutely not, but one of your arguments is that Marquardt and Hendo don’t deserve this rematch because they’ve lossed to Anderson already well by the same token Belfort has lossed to Hendo. I realize that Belfort isn’t the same fighter but I don’t think Marquardt or Hendo is and I also don’t think that it should be for anyone to decide you win enough fights you should get a title shot.
Hendo was a “champ” (I guess he still is). Hendo almost always barely wins or barely loses, but it’s usually not really as close as it seems.
I’d rather see Hendo against a quality 205er, than Nate fight him although it will be a good fight.
Vitor, who is this guy and title fight? I mean who hasn’t beaten Franklin lately. If were going for a spectacle, I’m for Kimbo vs. A Silva. I hope Vitor talks trash or I see this going 5 rounds with a total of 23 or 26 strikes landed being the factor of a Spider win. Well maybe a 3-4 round KO by Silva’s 10th-15th punch thrown.
Vitor, who is this guy and title fight? I mean who hasn’t beaten Franklin lately.
Wanderlei Silva didn’t. Also, the only people to KO Franklin were Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida. So Vitor’s in good company, eh?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Anderson Silva got a title shot for beating...
Chris Leben! He got the title shot after only one win in the UFC.
Rich Franklin complained in the pre-fight heat-up that Silva was getting his title shot too early, and that you need more than a single win to earn a shot at the title.
Smashing Franklin like Vitor Belfort did is a more impressive accomplishment that beating Leben.
And clearly Franklin was wrong about that.
And, the MW division was a weeeeee bit thinner back then than it is now. I mean, Franklin had to defend against Nate Quarry for crying out loud.
And Silva had to defend against Lutter and Irvin.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
And Cote and Leites, so I guess it must still be thin.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 9:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BTW
The Lutter fight was not a title fight.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 9:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lutter fight should and would have been if not for Lutter’s mistake, and not sure why i thought that Irivin’s fight was at MW, but im going to blame staying up all night watching K-1 as the reason for that thinking. =P
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Bottom line- wasn’t.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that came out sounding a little more dick-ish than I intended.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 11:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The point is that Lutter was the number one contender and it was suppose to be a title fight which is just showing that most of whom Silva has fought in that weight class has been just as weak as Franklin’s, and really does it matter if the fight technically could have went 5 rounds? It wouldn’t have went the distance and frankly he was lucky enough to get to the second round.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 26, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol, good point, so neither of the fights he mentioned were title defenses.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 9:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*I only mentioned the comparison in speed with Machida because at one point Anderson, Machida and Vitor all trained with each other. Maybe not all at the same time or anything but they have all three have trained with one another before and im sure they both know from training with Vitor that neither of them is as fast or hard hitting as him.
Making the winner of Hendo/Marquardt fight anyone besides A Silva would do nothing but piss off everyone involved.
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Sep 25, 2009 9:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Anyone watch PRIDE.32?
You know, that event where Hendo beat up Vitor?
Nice vid of Overeem subbing Vitor here as well when they were both LHW’s.
I am a Vitor fan, and love his fighting, but any guy that can take him down and wear him out like Hendo is his kryptonite.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 26, 2009 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions
“Nice vid of Overeem subbing Vitor here as well when they were both LHW’s.”
You mean pre-horsemeat?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We are talking about both of them, right? Vitor was caught by the NSAC for the PRIDE.32 event and Hendo still beat him.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 26, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Belfort has tested clean since then instead of putting on 40 pounds of muscle and running overseas.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 8:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hahaha. So, that somehow wipes out Overeem or Hendo beating Vitor?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 27, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Anderson Silva reign will end
He is more talented but always maintained his weakness was his hubris for his hands. Those silly combination won’t work against another elite striker, Belfort’s hands are faster and he hits harder . . . Anderson Silva’s reign will be over in one quick thunderous shot.
Dana is going to be doing a happy dance in the middle of the cage because he no longer has to put up with that unpopular, demanding, diva of a middle weight champion.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Bloody Elbow
Related FanShots on Bloody Elbow
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
MMA Rankings
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
