Bizzaro World: Mayweather "Humbled", Dana White Praises Boxing/PBF, Golden Boy Says All UFC PPV Numbers Leaked Are Fake
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 6:05 PM EDT
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Kevin Iole has some great quotes regarding the aftermath of the UFC vs Boxing PPV feud. First Dana praises boxing:
White said he thought before the fights, a home run for Mayweather-Marquez would have been 650,000. But he said Friday he had been hearing from his contacts that the fight may have reached as high as 1.6 million.
"I’m an emotional guy and if we’d only have done 100,000, or barely above 100,000, I would be suicidal," White said. "Bottom line, we did a good number and we still got our asses kicked. What they did was phenomenal and I’m happy for them. This was our fourth pay-per-view in two months (actually 10 weeks) and we still did a great number, but this was only their second all year.
"We honestly thought we’d do our number and that if they knocked it out of the park, they’d do around 650,000. We are ecstatic with the number we did, but they did a huge, huge number."
Dana then goes on and praises Mayweather as being one of the best boxers in the world.
He said the success of the two shows on the same night shows the interest in combat sports.
“I’m a true boxing fan and I’m happy for them, but what that number they pulled shows is the promise of combat sports,” White said.
“We’re kicking ass on pay-per-view. This was their second (major) pay- per-view. We do 13 a year, plus we put fights on free TV. Clearly, combat sports are more alive now than they’ve been in a long time.
“This shows that people are willing to stay at home on a Saturday night and watch a good fight. Do I think they delivered a good fight?
No. I think Mayweather is the best boxer in the world, and maybe one of the best of all-time, but that was a (expletive) fight. The thing we deliver is consistency, where once a show we give you that, ‘Holy (expletive),’ moment and you turn off the TV happy.”
If that is not shocking enough, then we have a quote from Mayweather being "humbled" of the success of the event. Not only that, but bigger fights were coming in the near future:
In a statement released by his publicist, Mayweather said he was "humbled" by the card’s pay-per-view success. He also hinted at big fights in the future.
"I returned to boxing to fight the best, and that’s what I intend to do," Mayweather said in a statement.
If that is not enough for, Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer from Golden Boy said that the UFC puts out fake PPV numbers out to the public, and that he would challenge Dana White and the UFC to do an audit and see who does how many PPV's. Arum said that UFC 100 barely did 1 million PPV's, and not the a 1.6 million being put out by the UFC. First he dished out on UFC 103:
Schaefer suggested UFC 103 barely topped 100,000 buys. He said the performance of Mayweather-Marquez clearly established Mayweather as the successor to Oscar De La Hoya as the industry’s pay-per-view king.
Dana's response:
White continuously boasted that his card would best the Mayweather card at the pay-per-view box office. He said UFC 103 did far more than 100,000 buys, but he conceded that boxing scored a heavy victory.
The projected numbers for UFC 103 have been 350-375K by most, including Meltzer. Then, Schaefer went off on other UFC PPV's, including the highly touted UFC 100:
Schaefer questioned the legitimacy of UFC pay-per-view results that were leaked. He said HBO is a publicly traded company that would face serious repercussions for releasing false numbers. The UFC, he noted, is a private company with no such concerns.
"I think the UFC and boxing should be able to co-exist and work together in this thing that we call (combat) sports," Schaefer said.
"I don’t want to talk (expletive) about the UFC. But Dana White can’t do an interview without knocking boxing. If he thinks we’re idiots and don’t know anything about the pay-per-view business, I’ll make him a challenge.
"I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this."
Dana White's response:
White said he would not allow anyone other than fighters with a contractual right to do so to audit his numbers.
"Do you think I’m (expletive) crazy?" he said.
What does it all mean? Tito, Dana, Mayweather, Lesnar, Manny, Mayorga, TO, and other sporting athletes and promoters want to thank you for giving your money to them for playing the "heel". On a side note, I have heard that most of these guys mentioned are some of the nicest people in the world, you know, when they are not putting on their fake persona's trying to make money off of us.
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The UFC doesnt "put" false numbers out there.
The UFC doesnt release any numbers but guys like Meltzer and Iole who have sources inside the company get numbers that they put out.
Dana was wrong about Floyd Mayweather’s drawing power. That being said this was what the second major PPV card that boxing has done. If the UFC only put on 2 major fight cards a year they would get huge numbers too. Look at 100 and 101. They did huge numbers back to back.
Now is the UFC lying about their PPV numbers, I doubt it, but at the same time we dont know for sure.
People are always gonna put “their” side of the story out there and not the other half. I love how Richard Schaefer says Dana blasts Dana for always knocking boxing but had nothing bad to say about Bob Arum who called mma fans skinheads with tattoo’s and how mma is homosexuals rolling around on the ground.
If anything the UFC is actually helping boxing because they are making them work. Before the UFC you would never have seen a boxing card as stacked as Mayweather-Marquez was and now that you have Strikeforce on CBS, UFC trying to get on network tv, Richard Schaefer says he wants to put big boxing matches back on network tv and you know why because they have to compete with the UFC.
Arum hates PBF and I am pretty sure Golden Boy and Arum don’t like each other.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Golden Boy and Arum are far from buddy-buddy, but it’s nowhere near the level of hatred Arum has for PBF
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 27, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
was gonna say the same thing about the ufc’s ppv numbers….they dont release them and they never have…period! so dont know how dana lies about something that he himself never actually gives the numbers. i was under the impression that meltzer and iole got there info from cable and satelite providers not the ufc…
WAR UFC/ fuck boxing
"The most used phrase in my administration if I were to be President would be "What the hell you mean we're out of missiles?"
The Glenn Beck Program, January 12 2009 lp.org
If you are a private company, you can put out false numbers out there or “leak” them to increase your value. Public companies don’t have that choice.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is the problem with that thinking
If the UFC is gonna fake numbers then why dont they fake better numbers.
Leaked UFC numbers
UFC 96 – 375K buys
UFC 99 – 360K buys
UFC 93- 350K buys
but yet the UFC choose certain events to falsify numbers or are the 3 events I listed false numbers too?
Here is my thing how would Bob Arum or Richard Schaefer know that UFC 100 didnt do 1.6 million buys? How because they have “friends” in the industry that tell them?
If you dont want to believe the numbers that Iole or Meltzer put out dont. If someone overvalues a company because he read a report on the internet that neither the president or ceo will confirm then that is their problem.
The reality is the UFC buyrates could be wrong but nobody knows except the UFC and too issue a challenge to open your books is just stupid. Hey Richard try to get any private company to open their books because you dont believe their numbers and they’ll tell you to fuck off.
Meltzer tries to get legit numbers. I believe Iole just asks other people or asks the promoters.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That still doesnt address the point.
Even if you dont believe the “leaked” numbers how would Bob Arum or Richard Schaefer know?
Right now all these boxing promoters are scared and not because boxing cant draw because when the big names are out boxing is huge but unless they have a huge name like Pacquiao or Mayweather the majority of the public gives 2 shits about boxing. Where the UFC can put on strong cards almost every month. Hell if the numbers are true 94,97,98,100,and 101 have all done over 600k buys and that is only 5 events with still 3 more to go this year all of which could break the 600k buyrate.
If I am boxing I would quit worrying about the UFC and start worrying more about a putting out a better product.
Meltzer gets his numbers directly from the ppv companies…
UFC fighters get paid based on ppv buys – so it makes perfect sense for ZUffa to inflate the numbers???…
This moron can’t add 2 plus 2. He or “she” hates Zuffa so much he tries to place boxing idiots over this sport.
Its one thing to try and spin strikeforce’s bullshit and make ZUffa look bad but this idiot is now pushing boxing bullshit over MMA.
by mmalogic on Sep 25, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Meltzer gets his numbers directly from the ppv companies…
UFC fighters get paid based on ppv buys – so it makes perfect sense for ZUffa to inflate the numbers???…
This moron can’t add 2 plus 2. He or “she” hates Zuffa so much he tries to place boxing idiots over this sport.
Its one thing to try and spin strikeforce’s bullshit and make ZUffa look bad but this idiot is now pushing boxing bullshit over MMA.
Exactly, the fighters get a PPV % so if the UFC is claiming 1.6 mil and the fighters only get a % of 1 mil buys don’t you think they would be complaining?
worse than complain… there would be legal implications and the fighters would be telling these bloggers who are up their asses 24-7…
You think if Zuffa was lying that Loretta Hunt wouldn’t have the scoop from Randy? She’s his neighbor for god sakes.
Rampage would make a blog post about it…
Boxing promoters cant ACCEPT THE FACT that Zuffa is kicking their ass.
Boxing and WWE COMBINED.
You shouldn’t talk about Golden Boy like that. Thats not nice.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently no one understands the Bizarro part or the title. Also, Yeah, I spun Schaefer into saying those remarks…LOL.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Iole was spot on with the Mayweather numbers
He said that he was hearing 1.6 but knew 1 million would be for sure. Meltzer was still running around claiming it would do like 700 or something. Meltzer goes off of trending while Kevin asks around. Both guys are right and wrong about the same amount of the time
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 27, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet again you've got an Anti-Zuffa fanpost and an insanely long title
Barely topping 100,000 buys is the biggest crock of crap ever.
May the Forsett be with you.
yea im pretty sure bisping vs rashad topped way over 100k buys and that was a shit main event…lol
"The most used phrase in my administration if I were to be President would be "What the hell you mean we're out of missiles?"
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that was the only mma card i ever regret buying….. i still wake up in a cold sweat at night thinking that’s the next card
by cagefightonacid on Sep 27, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
True bizarro would be you posting positive things about the UFC and the negative things about everyone else.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 25, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
We get enough of that from everyone else. I like the shit stirring. Even better is Sup has not once called anyone else a derogatory term.
BOOSH
It is calculated. Every single thing he does is calculated and fake. From the titles of his fanposts all the way down to the smiley at the end of his comments. The one time that he posted something real was a comment in a post about Michael Vick where he sounded NOTHING like his standard facade.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Ok
But so what? It’s generally agreed upon that he has his agenda. Just go with it. Just like every Dana piece will have the standard defenders; every Sup post will have an angle.
BOOSH
Edit – I meant to say you were calculated not fake.
by John Nash on Sep 26, 2009 1:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was going to correct you
but you get off on a technicality. The Earth revolves around the sun, not rotates… But it is rotating as it revolves, so I guess it does rotate around the sun.
by Grappo on Sep 26, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well in my defense I believe in the geocentric model of the universe. But rec’d for pointing out that Galileo was right 400 years ago.
"I believe in the geocentric model of the universe."
Sarcasm or truth?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Sep 27, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
just because you can do something doesnt mean that u actually do it….schaeffer is saying that dana directly is lying about ppv buyrates..i havent seen a ufc press release for ppv numbers so u cant say “dana is lying”
"The most used phrase in my administration if I were to be President would be "What the hell you mean we're out of missiles?"
The Glenn Beck Program, January 12 2009 lp.org
He actually said all UFC PPV numbers leaked are fake. He never said Dana is lying. He is challenging Dana to an “Audit Off”…LOL.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Richard Schaefer from Golden Boy said that the UFC puts out fake PPV numbers out to the public, and that he would challenge Dana White and the UFC to do an audit and see who does how many PPV’s. Arum said that UFC 100 barely did 1 million PPV’s, and not the a 1.6 million being put out by the UFC.
Is this not from your post? As stated before the UFC does not directly release their PPV numbers. So how could one say that the UFC is leaking fake numbers, but on the same hand not accuse DW of lying when he eludes to those numbers being accurate?
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Sep 26, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
All I said was he didn’t specifically say Dana, unless everyone just assumes now that Zuffa = Dana. What will you guys do when he retires?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 26, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Firstly: Meltzer gets his numbers from the ppv companies not Zuffa… He knows the wwe numbers before they announce it – why wouldnt he know Zuffa’s?
SECONDLY: UFC FIGHTERS GET PAID BASED ON THE PPV NUMBERS… WHY THE FUCK WOULD ZUFFA WANT TO LEAK FAKE AND INFLATED NUMBERS???
Shafer is a lying sack of shit… he said affliction 2 did well over 250k buys. Then they leak mayweather did 1.6 m buys which was complete bullshit.
These assholes cant handle the fact that UFC 100 kicked their ass… there biggest fight of the year couldnt even get close to ufc 100.
lol… Golden Boys biggest fight of the year was in the same range as BJ Penn vs Kenny “fucking” Florian.
by mmalogic on Sep 25, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
When Randy’s contracted pay was made public, the true numbers for the Sylvia and GG bouts were right in line with what Meltzer and others reported.
I know it upsets some boxing folk that the UFC is doing so well, but it is worth noting that the last boxing/mma spat was started by Mayweather.
What a load of crap.
lol… this idiot is now the PR agent for these boxing morons because none of his or her other dream orgs seem to be cutting it …
UFC FIGHTERS GET PAID BASED ON PPV NUMBERS… WHY THE FUCK WOULD ZUFFA INFLATE OR LIE ABOUT THE NUMBERS?
and…
MELTZER GETS HIS PPV NUMBERS OUTSIDE OF ZUFFA!
Whats the point in Zuffa lying? To impress internet geeks?
To get TV execs interested? every one of them are shown the documented results… you think ESPN or FOX, etc… is just gonna take Dana’s word on it?
by mmalogic on Sep 25, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
“Whats the point in Zuffa lying” about their ppv numbers? Probably the same reason studios lie about their films weekend grosses – they want to provide peer approval by showing how many other people are wanting to view it. Now I’m not saying it’s true that their lying. I have no way of knowing (I kind of doubt it), but it is also a perfectly logical that they might want to.
No it’s not, you’re missing his point. Zuffa pays several of their top fighters a percentage of the pay-per-view revenue of cards they are on yield. It would be stupid for Zuffa to lie for two reasons. First fighters would think they were being ripped off. Second, there could potentially be legal implications if payments don’t match reported revenues. I think it would be much more important for Zuffa to not lie.
Of course, no one is mentioning that Zuffa doesn’t put out these numbers (they are a private company), other people do, like Meltzer (who can only go off of whatever numbers he gets from the PPV companies).
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Whats the point in Zuffa lying? To impress internet geeks?
That what I was responding to. And as for the legal implications. The UFC would not be lying, these numbers are being released by Iole and others. There is nothing official about them to get the UFC in trouble.
And as for my opinion, I think they are probably exaggerating the numbers a little. It would be too tempting not to, but I can’t believe they are really doing anything more than adding 10% or rounding up to the next 100,000.
so 10% is going to make you wanna buy a ppv more?
so if a UFC really does 500k buys instead of the “leaked” 550k you think people will be more interested in the UFC???
This is the dumbest shit Ive ever heard.
Your studio comparison also doesn’t work because Zuffa doesnt announce any buy rates… the trusted source in the industry is meltzer. Every MMA blog quotes him.
So please explain Meltzer’s numbers? The local ppv companies are lying to him? so does he lie about the wwe numbers? (wwe is a public company so what they end up announcing pretty much confirms he knows what he’s talking about).
You think the president of ESPN throws around numbers without seeing proof?
Its amazes me how many nimrods dont understand the implications of Zuffa leaking false ppv numbers or lying about ppv numbers.
There was one instance where the projections of Lidell vs Rampage was too optimistic because before the fight no one knew the impact of ESPN’s first real push would be…
There was grumbling from Jacksons side because the optimistic view before the fight didnt meet the actual buy rate
Guess what? Meltzer had the correct intel.
Randy’s legal battle… what? Zuffa lies about every buy rate except they knew Randy was going to quit and so they didnt lie about the Gonzaga and Sylvia fights because they knew it would come out during the legal dispute?
Fucking stupid ass people need to think for a second…
by mmalogic on Sep 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did I say the UFC is lying to ESPN? No. What I said and meant was if someone was asking for payperview number (Metzer), off the record of course, the UFC is going to skew it upwards. If it looks like they did 650,000+ buys, I believe they would say, “hey it was 700,00 buys”.
And how would that affect anything with their fighters? The UFC isn’t releasing any official numbers. It’s not going to come back to bite them in the ass. I’m sure they have auditor who go over the numbers with them and the fighters that have ppv deals. It’s an unofficial number that gives the UFC as good as spin as possible. .
But, listen, you make $3000 an hour so defer to your judgement on this matter. In your world when someone guarantees something, we should assume that is the truth. By where I work, people seem to skew shit for their benefit all the time.
what dont you get by meltzer getting his numbers from other sources?
You dont believe him, cool… then:
what dont you get by meltzer’s numbers being the correct numbers when Randy’s pay was revealed during the legal disputes?
You think Randy’s numbers were “leaked” honestly but the other cards weren’t?
This is not rocket science.
by mmalogic on Sep 26, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mr. Logic, you really have to read my complete comment before commenting.
First, you seem to be conflating my argument with other poster. I am not saying Metzer or the UFC is lying about his numbers. In fact I think I stated the opposite:
Now I’m not saying it’s true that their lying. I have no way of knowing (I kind of doubt it)
And I stand by that. I have no way of knowing but I do doubt it.
But what you seem to miss,and I will also admit that I wasn’t very clear in stating, is that I have been directing my accusations to the estimates immediately following an event when I said the UFC probably was “exaggerating the numbers a little”.
I know that payperview estimates are not an exact science, but in the early aftermath of a show the best numbers always seem to pop up. Is it just coincidence that immediately after UFC 94, when it was still fresh in everyones minds and was garnering the most coverage that claims of 1.3 million buys were floating around? Is it just a coincidence that Mentzer reported 850,000 buys for UFC 91 (he eventually settled on 920,000 plus 2 months later) and soon others were talking about a million buys.
None of these were final tallies. These were estimates, which seem to have been slightly inflated. Why? Why do movies and studios claim higher box office or Nielson’s? Because there is no benefit not to. I believe the same principle would apply here.
My second point is that I believe you could take a page from MMASuPreMaCy playbook. Both of you are partisan as can be, but I can’t remember the last time I saw MMASuPreMaCy refer to a fellow BE members as “Fucking stupid ass people”, “nimrods”, or “she” when they repeatedly stated that they wish to be referred to as “he”.
Calm down little fella.
Are you talking about Iole, because thats all I am quoting in this post.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it's been said enough in this thread:
UFC fighters get paid based on PPV numbers. So why would Zuffa inflate the numbers?
BOOSH
That’s the bizarro part. I wonder where Golden Boy is getting these numbers. 100K for UFC 103 would be pretty low. It is being tracked at 375K right now (according to Meltzer), which is where a show like UFC 103 would be expected to be.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to doubt a boxing promoter, but this could be pure BS from Golden Boy. I read the article and Schaefer never gave any kind of source for these numbers.
Shafer leaked the boxing card did 1.6 m buys a few days before it was confirmed to be 1m. He couldnt handle the fact his biggest fight of the year couldnt even come close to ufc 100.
Now has Dana ever announced a ppv number or eluded to a number after the show and it not being true??? Sometimes he’ll share his projection before the fight but thats not the same thing as Shafer leaking the ppv sold 600k more than it really did.
I was being a smartass
It was a joke considering logic has posted the same thing like 4 times in this thread.
BOOSH
LOL..yeah, I got that towards the end.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I have heard that most of these guys mentioned are some of the nicest people in the world, you know, when they are not putting on their fake persona’s trying to make money off of us.
As Kurt Vonnegut said “Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be.”
As himself - he shows up to help Rodney with his assignment.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Sep 28, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the teacher's quote
“And whoever wrote that paper didn’t have the first clue about Kurt Vonnegut!”
BOOSH
Numbers From Past Few PPV Shows:
UFC 103 – 375,000 (Franklin vs Belfort)
UFC 102 – 435,000 (Couture vs Nog)
UFC 101 – 850, 000 (Silva vs Griffin)
UFC 100 – 1,720,000 (Lesnar vs. Mir II)
UFC 99 – 360,000 (Franklin vs. W. Silva)
UFC 98 – 635,000 (Evans vs. Machida)
UFC 97 – 625,000 (A. Silva vs. Leites)
UFC 96 – 350,000 (Jackson vs. Jardine)
UFC 95 – free TV (Sanchez vs. Stenveson)
UFC 94 – 800,000 (St. Pierre vs. Penn)
UFC 93 – 320,000 (Henderson vs. Franklin)
UFC 92 – 1,200,000 (Griffin vs. Evans)
UFC 91 – 1,010,000 (Couture vs. Lesnar)
UFC 90 – 300,000 (A. Silva vs. Cote)
The numbers being put out. So, Meltzer’s and whoever else releases the PPV buys.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 27, 2009 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Lesson from these numbers
Don’t use Franklin to headline a PPV!!!!
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 29, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
101 was Florian V Penn, not Silva v Griffin
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 29, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Zuffa 8 million plus ppv’s this year > HBO, GOLDEN BOY, TOP RANK, SHOWTIME, WWE, COMBINED.
HBO went from having 6 plus ppv’s per year to having 3…. Zuffa (in the same time frame) went from beating boxing and the wwe to beating boxing and the wwe COMBINED.
by mmalogic on Sep 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
No Way?
The first 8 times you posted this, I wasn’t so sure, but maybe now….
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You talking about someone else saying stuff multiple times is hilarious.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 25, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
You talking about someone else saying stuff multiple times is hilarious.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Right over your head.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 27, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dont get me wrong… I LOVE HBO.
One of the greatest organizations on earth. It’s the promoters that have screwed up boxing not HBO. If Anything HBO is the one pillar that has kept boxing intact… If you don’t have HBO you should get it.
And Showtime. Love Showtime. MMA, Boxing, Dexter, Weeds, etc.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 25, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Love HDNET Too!
Thanks for reminding me.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 26, 2009 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions
And...you know...
the fact that they generally have put on the better boxing cards over the past few years.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 27, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Evrything you just said is reason enough for Showtime.
Hell, just Dexter and Weeds is enough. HBO’s original programming has eaten shit the past few years. John In Cincinnati was awful.
BOOSH
Yeah, I used to love HBO shows, but its been going down hill lately.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 26, 2009 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions
David Simon (Homicide, Generation Kill, The Wire) will have a new series early next year: TREME. It is set right after Katrina and focuses on the musicians of Orleans. I have talked to some that saw the pilot without any music, just the raw footage and they said it was great. That raw footage was enough to get HBO to purchase a season.
It will certainly give many a new reason to watch HBO.
David Simon is awesome – Generation Kill was amazing, and I’m halfway done with The Wire.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Sep 27, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions
“I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”
If possible I want everyone to read this statement and think about it, just think about what this is implying for a minute. Then after you do, you’ll realise just how out of his fucking mind this idiot is, i’ve heard alot of crazy shit in my time but this might be the number 1.
The idea that the UFC would let their competition look at their private numbers and release them to the public just shows the desperation and delusion that many boxing people are in. The UFC is kicking their ass and Brock has proven to be the biggest draw in ppv and they can’t stand it.
The UFC has never released their numbers and never will, Meltzer is the one who puts out the numbers and he’s proven over his career that he’s the best in the business at doing it. And for Golden Boy or anyone in boxing who have been known to repeatedly exagerate their numbers to make these claims is truly hillarious.
The UFC did release the numbers for UFC 68 during the Couture contract imbroglio, and guess what … they matched the numbers that Meltzer had reported months earlier.
That alone should be enough to throw water on Schaefer’s completely baseless accusations.
by Steve4192 on Sep 26, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“I returned to boxing to fight the best, and that’s what I intend to do,” Mayweather said in a statement.
I’ll believe it when I see it..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 26, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hell fight Pac-Man. Too much money to be made if he beats Cotto.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 26, 2009 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions
He couldve faced him instead of Marquez but he chose not to..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 26, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t blame him for not wanting to fight Pacquiao in his first fight after two years off but if he doesn’t do it in the next year he’s clearly ducking.And let’s pick a weight and stick to it this time.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 26, 2009 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Zuffa inflating the numbers is just a stupid meme like “Pride/affliction/anyone not zuffa pays more than the reported salaries for tax reasons.” It sounds good in theory, because you get to bash zuffa by saying it, but anyone with even the smallest understand of anything financial realizes that it makes absofuckinglutley no sense.
by Phildo on Sep 26, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
How many times a month do you have to replace the right click on your mouse? I might point you to this post by Chris Nelson about what they are looking for in Fanposts:
Do not quote (read: copy/paste) more than 2-3 paragraphs
I count 18 paragraphs of quotes in this “article”.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 27, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
To be fair, that’s 2-3 per source so that you wouldn’t be stealing another man’s article. And sup quoted from lots of different posts so there’s nothing wrong with what he did..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 27, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh wait..
This is all from iole’s post? Dang.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 27, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Every thread that turns into supremacy V logic should be PPV.
I dislike Matt Hughes.
by MonkeyCHops on Sep 27, 2009 4:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No shit
It’s pretty annoying, I used to like reading all the comments but this is like two little kids bickering/fighting with each other.
And incase nobody knew some UFC FIGHTERS GET PAID A PPV% SO WHY WOULD ZUFFA LIE ABOUT THEIR NUMBERS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
by TennesseeTopTeam on Sep 27, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Bloody Elbow 17: Judgement Day
Only on Pay Per Vieeeewww
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Sep 28, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions
You Forgot
This saturday night….
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 28, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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