Rampage Jackson Authors New Post: "I'll Be Damned If Anybody Disrespects Me"
by Luke Thomas on Sep 24, 2009 4:05 PM EDT
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The man is in serious need of help:
"The reason why I'm talking about all this is that I feel like this whole situation could have been avoided if UFC would have respected me more & rescheduled the fight about a month or more in my hometown, which I know fights can be rescheduled because of the Matt Hughes & Matt Serra was postponed due to injuries. Instead, Dana went on the internet & started talking bad about my decision. All we had to do was come to a certain type of argreement or understanding, which later came after a lot of trash talk from Dana. My manager flew to Vegas & talked to them & tried to work things out like a MAN. & still I keep quite & I didn't talk trash back on the internet. The only reason why I'm even talking now is because I feel like I owe my fans an explanation because I am a MAN, a real MAN. Yeah I made good money with the UFC more than Pride, but I made both shows more money than they made me. I didn't care too much about Pride treating me like crap cause I was an American in a Japanese company. Now in my own country, I feel like I'm being disrepected. Everything is not about how much money you make. You could be the richest man in the world but if nobody repsects you then it don't mean shit. You can't buy respect. It should be earned. & thats what I'm all about.
Now Rashad wanna put his two cents in. Rashad remains to be a boy under me. He wins a few fights, and some of them I thought the judges fell asleep during the fight & woke up & saw him playing with his nipples & guessed he won. He knocked Chuck Liddel out when Chuck wasn't even the same man anymore. & now he thinks he's on my level. Yeah he talks about how he beat Forrest & I lost. But when I fought Forrest that was the worst Rampage I had ever seen. & I still know in my heart I won that fight. So now he's Mr. All Cocky & says I got a big mouth & talk a lot of smack. If my memory serves me correctly, he's the one that got into my face after the Jardine fight & started talking trash when he was the one that was originally supposed to fight me that night, but he told Dana on the phone he didn't want to fight. He wanted to keep his belt longer. Now, I'm not saying wether or not I would have beaten Machida, but I wouldn't have went out like a bitch like the way he did. So I'm the one that was looking forward to the Rashad fight the most. I have always been a fighter my whole life. As a kid my family treated me like shit which made me the person who I am today. This is why when I meet people I treat people the way I want to be treated (unless they approach me wrong or piss me off). I grew up thinking that I wasn't even important to my family which made me not even care about myself. That's why I can get knee-ed in the face 15 times & come back for more. That's why I can get my legs seriously hurt in a fight & still try to win. Thats why I can get my ribs broken in a fight & not tap out because my whole life I never thought I mattered to anybody or anybody cared about me. But now I have kids that love me & care about me & I'm not used to people caring about me but it feels good! I'm a very loyal person. Wolves are the most loyal animals on the planet. I was very loyal to the UFC, but now I owe all my loyalty to my kids... the ones who really care for me. The majority of my fights on the street I fought for free & they all were with emotion. I am a fighter, I will always be a fighter but my professional fights that were fought with emotion, I ended them all in devestating fashion. I am the wrong fighter that should fight pissed off professionally. I don't even consider it fair. So Rashad says he will fight me for free. I will gladly meet him at any gym & fight him just to shut his mouth up. & I mean that for real!
When I told Dana I did not want my belt back & that I just wanted to make money, it was around the time when they gave me Vanderlei & actually it was around the same time when my mind wasn't right (my mind was at TRUCK status) & that's the way I felt because I felt I had been robbed out of my belt. After the Jardine fight I did want my belt back because my family was so proud of me when I was champion & I want to make my family proud cause now I finally feel like my family cares about me & they accept me & this is what I've been wanting my whole childhood... for my family to like me. If I got to beat some ass for my family to like me, so be it. But now, I'm a grown man & I'll be damned if anybody disrespects me. I'm not having it, it's not happening!"
On the one hand, you get the sense with the talk of "all the UFC had to do" that there is room for reconciliation. And given that Rampage's dispute lies with being insulted, a repentant Dana White could make amends in a more substantive way this time. On the other hand, there are undertones of stubbornness here that are impossible to ignore, both from White and Rampage. Either the Cold War will fizzle out quickly or it's just getting started.
Rampage also needs to seek counseling. It's not exactly a mystery that those who fight professional MMA often do so on account of deep-seated psychological problems. Not all, of course. But some, and enough to be honest with ourselves that that motivation exists. I commend Rampage for his honesty, but humbly ask him to seek the advice of medical professionals to alleviate his pain. It's real, it's damaging and it won't go away because his children love him very much.
I'd also like to point out that Dana White, as a friend of Rampage, should have been more aware of how acutely Rampage's emotions can be swung. To exacerbate the situation twice over and then follow it up by suggesting Rampage is "acting like a baby" is just doubling down on what helped cause the problems in the first place.
And how on earth are Rampage's handlers allowing him to post this information?
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ooop sorry, didn't know you were gonna write about this one too.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 24, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You are like the hardest working non-staff on this site. ;)
by cyph on Sep 24, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
trying to weasel my way till the ‘non’ part gets taken off. haha :)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 24, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luke, Nate, bring Anton he is working hard man
by The Bronzeville Bully on Sep 24, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Now, I'm not saying wether or not I would have beaten Machida"
I love this line. Machida gets respect from EVERYONE!! Even in a rant he does not forget to clearly state that he was not saying he would have beat Machida. Too funny.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that'd be a first
I remember him saying earlier this year that Machida is so boring that he doesn’t even belong in the UFC. He didn’t say he sucks, or that Machida wouldn’t beat him, but he’s hardly been respectful in the past.
by Grappo on Sep 24, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well you can read what he said.
I dont think Page is scared of Machida or anything, but I do think he realizes the problems Machida would give him & it would likely be a long night if they met.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 25, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did read what he said
and it’s unclear to me whether he was actually giving respect, or just using that as an opportunity to slam Rashad (“… but I wouldn’t have went out like a bitch.”) He’s also trying to get his side out in a credible way, and not appear too crazy. Saying he would’ve stomped Machida is a good way to do the opposite.
by Grappo on Sep 25, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont see how you can take it any other way?
He actually stopped to make the point that he was not saying he would have beaten Machida during the middle of his Evans rant.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re putting too much meaning into a quick statement used to preface an insult to Rashad. I don’t see it as giving Machida respect just because Rampage didn’t say he would’ve kicked Machida’s ass.
by Grappo on Sep 25, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe so,
but for someone like Rampage who typically does not hold anything back to actually make sure he was clearly understood about not saying he would have beat Machida.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 25, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems pretty clear from that statement there that he respects Machida’s skills.
by MickDawg on Sep 25, 2009 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure he does respect his skills, but not being disrespectful doesn’t equate to being respectful. Even when Rampage HAS disrespected Machida, he never dissed his skills. Nobody can honestly say Machida doesn’t have crazy skills, so they go the “boring” route.
Anyway, for the sake of explication, here’s the exact quote I originally paraphrased.
“Lyoto is a weird fighter,” Jackson said. “He’s kind of boring. I think that style works for him, the way he makes people run after him. I mean, he’s good, he’s undefeated, but he’s boring. If I was the promoter of a show I wouldn’t have guys like that fighting on my show.”
by Grappo on Sep 25, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right, he did say that. Butchered his name too if I recall.
by soadtrails on Sep 25, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed the first part of his writing:
"Make no mistake the UFC treated me a lot better than Pride. If you get hurt in training in a UFC fight then will send you to the best doctors. If you get hurt in a Pride fight most of the time they will tell me “oh you better take care of that!” The UFC will always let you know in a timely matter who you will be fighting & give you enough time to train but with Pride if I knew 4 weeks ahead I would be happy cause most times they just give you a 2 weeks notice. Pride will rip you off on your merchandising but the UFC would find someway to hook you up on merchandising deals. Pride will make fights easier for certain fighters inside the ring (like standing up fights early). With the UFC whatever happens happens. The only thing I see the UFC needs to fix in this area is to get better judges. Ones who know about MMA & not from the boxing world.
by Lynchman on Sep 24, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t miss it. I excluded it for real estate purposes.
by Luke Thomas on Sep 24, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
rampage was giving his fans a background on how his current flap with the ufc came about,
my question is, how exactly did you make the conclusion that rampage needs professional help at this time?
“Rampage also needs to seek counseling” imo, THAT’S out of left field
by theblade on Sep 24, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you read the article?
It’s not exactly a mystery that those who fight professional MMA often do so on account of deep-seated psychological problems. Not all, of course. But some, and enough to be honest with ourselves that that motivation exists. I commend Rampage for his honesty, but humbly ask him to seek the advice of medical professionals to alleviate his pain. It’s real, it’s damaging and it won’t go away because his children love him very much.
Which is a fairly easy conclusion to make based on what Rampage said:
As a kid my family treated me like shit which made me the person who I am today.
After the Jardine fight I did want my belt back because my family was so proud of me when I was champion & I want to make my family proud cause now I finally feel like my family cares about me & they accept me & this is what I’ve been wanting my whole childhood… for my family to like me. If I got to beat some ass for my family to like me, so be it.
If he is really thinking that way then he needs to talk to someone about it.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 25, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does realize the ufc doesn’t pick the judges right?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 24, 2009 5:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage is upset Rashad is being scheduled to take another fight and a good part of his Payday going down the drain…
by mmalogic on Sep 25, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actions have consequences, even for someone like Rampage.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 25, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rampage needs to let it go for now, and let things cool down. he definetly needs to stay off the internet. thats the worst place a fighter in his place should be. fans off all sports are extremely critical of everything, and the net is the 1rst place they go to vent. stay off the net rampage, see a shrink!
by bdw on Sep 24, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like he is venting which is good but maybe he should have just wrote in a journal. I personally don’t mind him sharing a piece of himself with the fans.
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Sep 24, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should be telling this to his therapist not us.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 24, 2009 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
For all we know his therapist is on here egging him on so he can bill more hours.
by nottheface on Sep 24, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone really has to put a leash on Dana, finally. I agreed with Lukes post the other day.
Yes, Rampage needs help (and clearly his devout religious beliefs aren’t enough, he needs real help) but the situation could have been avoid if Dana wasn’t so eager to act like a jerk. Part of being a good boss is knowing your employees, and how to deal with them. Dana’s solution of “trash them publically” doesn’t always work so well…
Anyway, I still believe they will eventually make up (with or without the Fertittas help), and I hope Rampage gets the help he needs.
Saddest thing in the post:
“…my family was so proud of me when I was champion & I want to make my family proud cause now I finally feel like my family cares about me & they accept me & this is what I’ve been wanting my whole childhood… for my family to like me. If I got to beat some ass for my family to like me, so be it.”
:( How horrible a guy would feel that his own family won’t support him unless he’s a champion. Family should be there in th best and worst of times, not just the best. If it’s true that they are like that, I feel even more sorry for the guy.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
by mythbuster on Sep 24, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem is the UFC can just move on.
Does the loss of Rampage hurt? Yes but at the same time they move on and now thats why your hearing about possibly Rashad/ T. Silva.
Dana has been through this situation before and it always worked out for him so he is not gonna change. See Ortiz, Tito and Couture, Randy.
Rampage has 2 choices, reconcile and fight with the UFC or retire and make movies.
by bigdmmafan on Sep 24, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the point myth was making is that Dana should be taking preventative measures to insure it doesn’t have to get to a point where “reconciling” needs to be an option. There’s no reason for a promoter to BASH his own talent.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
insure – make certain of
ensure – make certain of
Both have other definitions as well. Thanks for keeping me on my toes though, I thought I might have used the wrong spelling.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These are close enough definitions where it could be the same.
I cant figure out the ones who mess up “there” & “their”.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only use one. I only use “There”. I want to bring them together. It a battle I fight every day. But mistaking They are and there is dumb.
by szucconi on Sep 24, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in AP style:
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/assure.html
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by The Kittitas Kid on Sep 24, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing the comments aren’t regulated by AP usage!
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey that’s my job.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 24, 2009 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Would Strikeforce be Option #3?
Or does Rampage have fights left on his current UFC deal?
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 24, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rampage is all about the money like he said. Strikeforce could never pay him better than the UFC.
by JaTinkles on Sep 24, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no it wouldn't
he does have fights and time left on his contract. fight or retire.
by bdw on Sep 24, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. If he thought what Dana said about the movie was bad that would be nothing compared to what would happen if Rampage tried to fight elsewhere.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 24, 2009 5:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info
Figured as much…
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 24, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Rampage
Stop posting. If your retiring, retire and if you want to come back then sit down with Dana and hash out whatever problems.
I’m tired of hearing how the UFC screwed you or whatever. This can be worked out if you want it to be and if not good luck with the movie career.
by bigdmmafan on Sep 24, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know people have used the Rampage issues to tout about Dana being brash, but given this rant I can imagine that he might be holding back. Rampage has issues and that is painfully clear. I had hoped that after the monster truck scare he would have gotten help, but he did not. Dana doesn’t handle anything with kid gloves, but Rampage is not handling things with sense. I don’t think he is crazy. I think he just needs to talk to someone and vent and sort things out. Just so he can think clearly.
by szucconi on Sep 24, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont know if he is crazy either,
but this sort of behavior certainly brings the question up. And in light of the questions about Herschel Walkers mental status & capability to fight it does make me wonder if fighting is the best thing for Rampage. Personally, I love the guy.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"And how on earth are Rampage's handlers allowing him to post this information?"
A) I doubt he has anyone truly advising him.
B) I dont think it would matter if he did have someone advising him.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a) I know for a fact he does.
b) Probably.
by Luke Thomas on Sep 24, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if a) is true,
then he needs to hire people that will take away his computer & phones. But he likely would still find a way to do this anyway so I guess that it does not really matter. Thanks Luke,
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not so sure I see anything wrong with what he posted…its not like he went Marbury with this post. He has legitimate beef with Dana and is venting it in public, which is wrong but he really didn’t say much out of the ordinary; for him.
by ThomasJ on Sep 24, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s why I can get knee-ed in the face 15 times & come back for more.
See Pride 28
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Sep 24, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m one of the biggest Pro-Dana people I know, but Dana needs to handle this situation with care. Rampage is obviously upset, and Dana’s best bet would just be to let Rampage cool off for a week, call him, set up a face to face, man to man meeting, and clear it up. And I do believe that is what will happen. But I will lose much respect for Dana if he makes another snide comment about Rampage after this.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Sep 24, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is true.
But like with Tito, we know that Dana typically does not let these types of rants go unanswered, unfortunately.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he mellowed down a bit last time..
so i’m hoping he learned his lesson..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 24, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can only hope.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My biggest hope is that Dana truly likes Rampage, and that the differences between what happened with Rampage and what happened with Tito is enough to lead to a much faster resolution.
I know Dana isn’t dumb…he could hook Rampage up with a fat contract, both parties can apologize for what went down, and everyone will be happy…let’s just see if it can actually happen.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Sep 24, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well we know that he has said he does really like Rampage.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We also know Dana can talk out of his ass…we’ll see what happens.
The reality of it is, ALOT of people want to see Rampage fight Rashad. Rampage wants to fight Rashad. Rashad wants to fight Rampage. The only thing that went wrong was Dana ran his mouth. Dana apologizes, Rampage gets taken care of a little bit better, and we get to see some more “black on black crime”…Dana don’t fail us now.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Sep 24, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true
but I dont recall him saying he really liked someone multiple times & it turning out not to be true.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, thats what I’m banking on.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Sep 24, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too!
I just wish that these two would stop getting so butthurt over this & find a way to work together. Big stars get special treatment in the UFC all of the time. Maybe Rampage should have just faked an injury or something?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The movie crap went wrong as well.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 24, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana ran his mouth about the “movie crap” I figured that was an understood fact. What point are you trying to make? lol
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Sep 24, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That what Dana said was not the only thing that went wrong. The movie schedule really messed with the UFC fight schedule for more people than just Rampage.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thus is why I said both parties need to apologize. Thats the same point I’ve been making in all the comment sections save for this one. If you’re looking for someone to disagree with you, keep looking.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Sep 24, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not looking for someone to disagree with, just want to keep things as close to the actuality as possible.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 24, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where would we be without you…
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Sep 24, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About the same as you are with me. Look, I am not trying to fight or argue, I saw something I thought was wrong with what you said and put in my two cents. Maybe I should have spent more time on it, but it was a quick statement made in the middle of being occupied with other things.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 24, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the heck is going on with you two?
Cant we talk about possibly unstable fighters & presidents who cant control their mouths w/o you two coming to blows? lol
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we have a bonus round where we bash the sh!t out of Kanye West? lol It’s cool now, it was just a misunderstanding.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Sep 24, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
=)
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 24, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both of you are usually
pretty cool & semi-low key so I was just surprised how elevated this got so fast. Good to see you both getting along again! lol
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 25, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana will find a way to get the last word in on this situation.
I still believe in Ryan Garko...........
by 49er16 on Sep 24, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana’s last comment (before this one) was pretty damn civil.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 24, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BS the only reason he’s retiring is because he’s afraid of king MO :)
by prefernottosay on Sep 24, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in other unrelated news,
Josh Thompson broke his leg again..
and he’s probably dropping the belt.. too lazy to type in another post at 4:30 am… i’m out.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 24, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I cannot express in words how much BJJ newbies pulling dangerous shit in rolling pisses me off.
by Zack Gobie on Sep 24, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At Ralph’s academies, anything below the waist is forbidden unless you are at least a purple belt. And in most cases, only the brown and black belts will slap on leglocks. It’s for this very reason – a heel-hook can go from zero pain to snapped body parts in less than a second. My black belt told me he was in a heel hook once back in the day, and he wasn’t tapping because it didn’t hurt. Next thing he knew his ankle popped. He said he was lucky it was an ankle and not his knee.
Long story short – I agree. with you.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Sep 24, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure most tournaments require you to be a purple belt to do leg locks in competition as well.
by Zack Gobie on Sep 24, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4:30 AM? Where do you live?
by The Bronzeville Bully on Sep 24, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillipines
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 24, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has the UFC ever moved back an event
in the same location to a different date? I can’t think of any event…
It seems like a big part of his gripe is not being able to fight in Memphis. But if the date is already set and the fights pretty much set moving the date would make no sense. I assume the contract for TUF has the scheduled date of the coaches fight in it.
by Davey S. on Sep 24, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“on account of deep-seated psychological problems.”
Couldn’t find a way to just pm this to you Luke, and I’m pointing it out to help, not mock.
Deep seeded.
by iki on Sep 24, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Deep-seated” is actually correct.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 24, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops. Last time I listen to an English Comp prof without doing my own research.
by iki on Sep 24, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luke Thomas will smack your prof. up.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Luke Thomas is not a small man.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 24, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we all saw him KTFO Drago, so....
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
talks about respect
but blasts Rashad unnecessarily in the next sentence….
by cagefightonacid on Sep 24, 2009 4:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
and saying Rashad went out “like a bitch” is classless, the dude swung until the end. I may have been screaming with glee when it happened but he earned my utmost respect.
by cagefightonacid on Sep 24, 2009 4:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Machida said Evans was trying to verbally submit before being kod…. Yamasake didn’t hear him
by kanodogg on Sep 24, 2009 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
and Rashad said he was mid-shit talking when he got KO’d
though I don’t really recall Machida saying Evans was verbally tapping.
by Grappo on Sep 24, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when did machida say that? Evans said he was trash talking, and I think that he knows better English than lyoto…. even if he did, I still don’t think he went out “like a bitch.”
by cagefightonacid on Sep 24, 2009 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I dont care for Rashad,
he did stand in there & fight Machida so I give him respect for that. And this is the first time I have ever heard anything about Evans verbally tapping. Which seems highly unlikely to me from standing strikes.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 25, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm maintaining a "wait and see" approach on this Rampage vs. Dana thing
but in the meantime,
So Rashad says he will fight me for free. I will gladly meet him at any gym & fight him just to shut his mouth up. & I mean that for real!
Dear fighters, stop saying/posting shit like this. We all know something like this will never happen. You don’t need to act tough(er). You people fight in cages for a living, we know you’re tough. Thank you.
Kuwabara Kuwabara
by J. B. Maddox on Sep 24, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana’s go to quote is that he makes fights happen that the fans want to see. Well I want to see Rashad v Rampage, and so do alot of others. If Dana needs to swallow his pride and make up with Rampage to make the fight happen, then he needs to do it. I don’t buy PPVs to hear Dana talk, I order them to watch the fighters I want to see fight. Less Vince McMahon and more fight promoting.
by xDieseLx on Sep 24, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It really helps when the fighters don’t jump at other opportunities that postpone said fights over and over again (the movie is behind schedule and last I heard March would be the soonest for the fight).
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 24, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont care, Im going to watch it whenever it happens. I was still interested in Serra/Hughes however long after TUF 6.
by xDieseLx on Sep 24, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so what happens if dana concedes so easily when a fighter throws a tanty? you think other fighters wont take notice and we’ll see others threaten to retire when they want their cake and eat it too?
by milson on Sep 24, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Dana should stop throwing "tanty"s.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
by mythbuster on Sep 25, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's it, 'Page is coming back.
No WAY he spews that much venom at Rashad and then doesn’t fight him. He’s mad right now, but when the movie commitment is over, and the ratings for TUF are the highest in years, and Rashad starts talking smack again, Dana will calmly calls ’Page’s management and ask if they’re ready to do a f*@&ing deal, and the deal will get made.
Dana brought in Kimbo because it would make UFC money. Dana brought back CroCop because he thought it could make UFC money. Dana knows Rampage/Rashad will make money once all the TUF episodes are aired.
Rampage will be back, people. I’d say the contract gets signed within 2 weeks of his last day on the set of The A-Team. There’s too much hatred for Rashad and too much money on the table for Rampage not to make a deal.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 24, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How much hatred will there be
in 8 or 10 months without these two being around one another?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 24, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see Rampage sending Christmas cards to Rashad
any century soon.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 24, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, lol.
But if these two are not around each other to continue this it could die down considerably.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 25, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could all be a way to increase TUF ratings in an effort to see Rampage for the final time(s) with the UFC.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
by FlyByKnight on Sep 24, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly.
I’m calling work.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 24, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve thought every step of Dana/TIto was a work, and I wouldn’t be surprised if this was happening here too.
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http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that Tito was maintaining his distance because of his recuperation from surgery and knew the entire time he would return to the UFC?
by amadeus on Sep 24, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything. Every spat they’ve had since Zuffa took over the company. Dana loves Vince McMahon and Tito’s one of the top self-promoters.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was actually someone who posted
that exact scenario this wk on here. I love a good grassy knoll theory & bought right in, but I just have a hard time figuring out how not willingly letting him do a movie benefits him more than bitching about it.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 25, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Word on the street is that filming is going to be delayed.
If Rampage can’t fight till March, their much better off having Rashad take a fight, then Dana and Rampage having a great reconciliation and having him come back around the time that the movie is released will generate a lot more hype than, “we all fucked up by not knowing everyone’s schedule, so we have to delay the fight till march, our bad.”
I’m not saying that it’s all a work, but I wouldn’t put it past them.
by Phildo on Sep 25, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For sure Rashad needs to go ahead & face someone else
while waiting for Rampage (hopefully). It seems kind of out there for this all to be a work just because I think they could have achieved a lot of publicity w/Rampage & White still being friends. I just dont see the benefit of the scrap between those two being beneficial.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 25, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If after the Machida fight Tito got in the ring and said he just signed a new contract and was going to fight Mark Coleman noone would give a shit.
All the shit that happened in between has made Tito vs Coleman a big fight.
Same thing here. Rampage Rashad was going to be big on it’s own, but if it’s Rampage’s “return” fight. That makes it bigger.
Why make a story? There needs to be a reason for Rashad to take a new fight, there needs to be an excuse for Rampage pulling out of a fight that has a season of TUF built up for it. “we’re a bunch of morons who can’t get our schedules to match up” sounds a lot worse than, “dana is an asshole and rampage is a baby, but we’ll set all that aside to make a match the fans want to see.”
by Phildo on Sep 25, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still doesnt make sense.
The Rashad/Rampage heat is at an all time high with TUF being on. There will still be some heat later on, but they wont be able to recapture the exposure that TUF brought. And Tito’s contract was up, wasnt it? Rampage is under contract.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Sep 25, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying it’s happening, I’m saying it could happen.
Tito could have re-signed right away, he didn’t. If that was a work, it generated a lot more heat for a Tito/Coleman matchup than would have come any other way.
This is bringing more attention to the situation, that’s all.
by Phildo on Sep 25, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn’t really surprise me, to be quite honest. I wouldn’t put it past them. Hoodwink the public and draw even bigger ratings, on top of the Slice effect, for TUF. Hell, they’re probably drinking Mai Tai’s somewhere right now.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
by FlyByKnight on Sep 24, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But dont you think that any of the fans that follow MMA close enough to know this are going to buy the PPV anyway?
by xDieseLx on Sep 24, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Therein lies the problem. With this season’s Ultimate Fighter, mainly due to Kimbo, more people will tune in than ever before. And that, in itself, means higher ratings for whatever PPV the coaches fight on. Even if the PPV was pushed back, the casual people that tuned in to see Kimbo would have paid to see Rampage and Rashad fight each other simply because of the fact that they were talking smack to each other on the show. Personally, I very rarely buy UFC PPVs anymore. Slowly but surely, they’re turning into the WWE when it comes to how many PPVs they’re running a year. After a while, it just gets too much.
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by FlyByKnight on Sep 24, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
^ this right here
has there been any sort of coverage that the casual fan will see regarding this retirement drama?
by milson on Sep 24, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've read what he said a few times
and i actually have a problem with asking “why are his handlers allowing him to post this?”
IMO this is a heartfelt sincere post from someone who truly feels slighted for wanting to advance their time in the spotlight. Rampage did nothing wrong here but ask for an allowance of time to pursue an opportunity while asking to postpone a single fight, that could’ve still happened and probably would’ve been more lucrative given his newfound stardom if everything worked out. Instead, Dana used his media savvy to turns us against Rampage (i say us loosely). I usually like Dana and side with him, but in this instance i agree that it was totally unprofessional to be saying those things. If anything Dana should defend him in public and deal with those issues in private.
by amadeus on Sep 24, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It just isn’t that cut and dry, there is a lot more than just moving the fight (and the venue) a number of months into the future. The UFC based much of it’s whole second half of the year around this, they had a season of TUF and season of primetime for this fight and they were doing it in Rampage’s hometown (in a venue and date that is already set). They were geared to shove Rampage down our throats for the next three months, him pulling out of it all last minute is a big deal. Whether you agree with Dana’s crap or not doesn’t change this being a real issue for the UFC or lessen the blow to them.
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn’t really change what amadeus is saying though. Dana still shouldn’t be airing this kind of laundry out for the public.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage did nothing wrong here
It has a very profound affect on that statement right there which was the crux of the point. Rampage screwed Dana and Dana went and screwed Rampage right back, you can’t get away from the fact that they both share responsibility in this situation.
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's 2009..
Is the A-Team really generating interest enough to make a majaor motion picture? Who wants to see this?I mean how much revenue is this going to get Rampage?
Rampage is no actor of any caliber. My prediction is this movie gets railed by the movie critics, becomes a B or lower level credible movie. Rampage flips on the movie critics. I see his movie career going absolutely nowhere.
by MSEMCEE on Sep 24, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps you missed the resurge of the 80’s with blockbuster movies such as TRANSFORMERS and GIJOE.
Although I agree his movie career will most likely go nowhere. I still feel it is to the benefit of the UFC to let Rampage act, just like Liddell.
What about guys like John Cena and The Rock doesnt that benefit WWE?
by nsiegel on Sep 24, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are both long time toy lines not mid-80’s tv shows that only lasted 5 seasons(in the case of GI Joe a very old toy line, they date back to 1964). Those two movies weren’t a resurgence of the 80’s at all and tv show movie remakes have a horrible track record in general.
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starsky & Hutch did $170.3 million in gross revenue after a $60 million budget.
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by FlyByKnight on Sep 24, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it all depends on the script, just like every other movie, and the a-team was not nearly as popular as strarsky and hutch or the dukes of hazzard. while both movies were profitable for their studios, they were not poular or profitable nough to do a sequel. we’ll see.
by bdw on Sep 24, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen the cast for this thing? I’ll probably go see it just because Liam Neeson is such a badass.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No you won't
You’ll go to see it because it’s a big budget summer film starring Rampage in a big role.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 24, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. I’d go see it if Wayne Brady was BA Baracus. I LOVE Liam Neeson.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
He is sick!
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 25, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Liam Neeson too but I would protest outside the movie theater if Wayne Brady was BA Baracus.
To quote Negrodamus: “White people love Wayne Brady because he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X.”
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are the numbers on Miami Vice?
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Sep 24, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First offering up one example doesn’t change the fact that most tv remake movies just don’t do that. Second That was it’s international gross, it only did 88 million domestic which isn’t anything special. Movies are designed to make money (of course the 60million budget was just to make it not to distribute and advertise it too, there is a lot more involved), just them making money doesn’t mean they were hits or did anything to make anyone a star.
The last Harry Potter movie is closing in on a billion dollars worldwide, now that is a hit movie.
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Harry Potter is your definition of a hit movie...
then 99% of all films in production might as well shut down right now. That’s a pretty high bar for gross revenue you’re setting there.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Sep 24, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention that Harry Potter was based on a book written by an author in England who targeted adolescents. Of course the movie will do good. The kids got their parents into it and the rest is history. She already angled the Foreign numbers. The Domestic numbers were just going to get there, as evidenced by three of the films being in the top nine of Worldwide Box Office Grosses for all-time.
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by FlyByKnight on Sep 24, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I don’t care it was just something I pulled out of my ass to show how unimpressive the Starsky and Hutch numbers actually were.
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah just an example of numbers to really get excited about.
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Transformers and G.I. Joe have come out with newer cartoons every so often like Beast Wars and Sigma Six. These toys also bring nostalgia to a lot of people so getting people in the movie theatre to see those movies was a no brainer.
Starsky & Hutch and Dukes of Hazzard didn’t do that well at all, which would lead many people to believe that this new A-Team movie may not do that well.
And John Cena and Dwayne Johnson are a whole ’nother level because they were/are basically actors to begin with on WWE bringing in an already huge fan following.
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Sep 24, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$170m on a $60m budget isn’t successful?
Dukes did $110m worldwide on a ~$50m budget as well.
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 24, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why no sequel then? Were the dvd sales decent?
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Sep 24, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some movies just don’t have sequels even if they do good.
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by FlyByKnight on Sep 24, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See: Serenity
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
by woomikee on Sep 24, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Serenity didn’t do good, in fact it did terrible at the box office. Was good and did good sometimes are very different things.
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don’t bring Serenity or Firefly up. It just makes me lose hope in the entire human race.
by Zack Gobie on Sep 24, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There are different ways to judge a movie’s cost and success, the budget is just the production cost of the movie not the entire cost, there are advertising cost, distirbution cost(which are very significant), administrative cost, actor/director/producer percentages off the gross, the distributers percentage off the gross and the very very important fact that much like in the PPV business the movie theater takes a significant percentage (it is a sliding scale but normally ends up at around half the gross goes to theaters). 110million worldwide on a 50 million dollar production budget is probably just around breaking even for the studio when it’s all said and done.
Easier to provide a link instead of trying to explain it all myself but rest assured a heck of a lot goes into this beyond just comparing the budget to the gross. This gets complicated:
http://stason.org/TULARC/movies/current-films/19-When-does-a-movie-break-even.html
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$110 worldwide is not good for $53 mil picture. A simple formula people sometimes use is total box office ($110 mil) x 1.5 (all other sources of revenue – dvds, games, etc) x .25( all costs – rentals, advertising, lab print) – $53 mil (film budget) = $8 mil in profit over 3 years or 4% interest. Not good.
In comparison, using this formula, Gran Torino made $65 mil or 67% a year for three years.
by nottheface on Sep 24, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not every successful movie was preceded by throngs clamoring for them to be made.
This movie will be fine. I suspect they’ll update the tongue-in-cheek comedy to some 2000s humor, actually have the bullets HIT PEOPLE instead of the dirt, and it will be a decent Summer 2010 hit.
Will it be Lord of the Rings? Fuck no, but that’s not what they’re going for. And it has a nice pedigree, with Ridley Scott backing it and very stylistic director in Joe Carnahan. Plus, Wikus from District 9 is in the movie, which makes me giddy.
Don’t understand the hate, even if the movie sucks. Look at the individual—this is a guy who grew up with a rough childhood in the ‘hood and literally fought his way to the top; now he gets to be in a big-budget hollywood film? That’s the fuckin’ American dream.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Sep 24, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not Rampage’s first movie but when we get down to it this movie may very well be the end of his fighting career. When we get right down to why are we here on a MMA site discussing MMA issues it’s not so we can fanboy about a 1980’s tv series being remade into a movie it’s to talk about MMA. If the A Team movie cost me getting to see Rampage Jackson fighting again then I say to hell with the A Team movie because wanting to see him fight is what I am a fan of. We aren’t trying to change the situation or force things to work the way we think they should we are just discussing a MMA story, it doesn’t go any deeper than how it affects us and what are personal opinions are on it.
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I dig what you're sayin man...
It’s just people are irrationally trashing a movie that hasn’t even been made yet. It doesn’t really have stink written all over it like, oh say, a remake of Hecurles: The Legendary Journeys. I’m not horribly bummed because I still expect this fight to happen. And if it doesn’t come to pass, I will be upset that Rampage didn’t knock that smirk off Rashad’s face. It’s not the A-Team movie that fucked this fight up, that movie was getting made whether or not Rampage was on the boat—It’s Rampage’s choice and Dana White’s mouth that fucked it up. What I’m trying to do here is stop the steam-rolling before the cement’s been laid, concerning the movie; I ain’t trying to comment on what Hegel would think about all this, I leave that for Philosophy 338 next Wednesday.
But as George Harrison said, all things must pass…
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Sep 24, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh people who talk about movies like we talk about MMA (yes I have multiple interest :D )can trash it enough for everyone. I thought it was looking like a bad idea for a movie long before Rampage signed up (they have been trying to get it made for several years).
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Liam Neeson playing Hannibal has even this movie snob somewhat intrigued.
by MrBlond3 on Sep 25, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not going to be a B movie.
It may be a flop, it may be terrible. But the other people in this movie make it a major motion picture.
by Phildo on Sep 24, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A major motion picture with an impressive cast may not technically be a B movie, but there are plenty of them out there that try to emulate the style of B movies. I think it’s up for debate whether or not B movies nowadays have more to do with style and genre than cast and budget. The definition has changed many times over the years.
by Grappo on Sep 25, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how many B movies has ridley scott been involved in?
The only thing that points this in the B movie category (by any definition) is the presence of Rampage. And to be perectly honest, it’s probably a cost cutting move.
But a movie produced by Ridley Scott and starring Jessica Biel, Liam Neeson, and Bradley Cooper can’t be a B movie. They’ve already spent too much on those 4 names alone. Because of that, they’ll have to market it heavily and shove it down our throats by the time summer comes along.
by Phildo on Sep 25, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that it is a movie based off an 80’s action show might also qualify for B movie status…
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 25, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the players behind this movie are no joke.
They got every piece of the puzzle right (financing, cast, director, producer)…
The probability of it losing money is very low. Everything is in place to create a “franchise” (more than 1 show) out of this so unless there’s some crazy fights on set and its “sabatoged” or key players decide they dont want to return or the movie doesnt make a decent roi (not very likely) there will be a sequel.
So long term this is a good opportunity for Rampage… but he’s walking over dollars for dimes right now.
Rampage is not making any money on the first one… so by the time this movie hits theaters and they decide to do a second one, scheduling it, etc… his bills are gonna be past due. All it takes is liam neesan signing on to other projects to delay the sequel 2 years plus.
Look at all the money mayweather made in boxing and he still had to come back because he ran out of it.
Rampage will do the same.
by mmalogic on Sep 25, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not saying that this is a B movie
I’m just saying that big name cast/producers/director don’t necessarily make for an A flick automatically. A-Team director Carnahan’s previous movie Smokin’ Aces is a glorified B-movie wearing a pretty dress. As far as Ridley Scott goes, I think Alien falls in to the expensive B-movie category. It was basically a remake of The Thing (1951) set in space. “Legend” might also be categorized as B, since Fantasy is such a B genre.
But a movie produced by Ridley Scott and starring Jessica Biel, Liam Neeson, and Bradley Cooper can’t be a B movie.
Again, it comes down to style imo, not cast or budget, and we don’t know what direction they’re going in yet. If they follow the lead of Crank/Doomsday/Shoot Em Up/Smokin Aces/Kill Bill/Grindhouse/Death Sentence etc. and just ramp up the violence and absurdity, it could definitely end up being another modern B-movie. Or “B+” as I think it’s called.
by Grappo on Sep 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage Post
After reading the part that you left out of the piece, it’s obvious this was just meant to slander Jackson. The man speaks openly about his feelngs and motivations and stands up for himself, takes the reigns and controls his own situation, and you say he needs counseling? As a medical professional myself I wonder what qualifies you to say that? The more I hear from him, the more it seems that the one incident that no one seems to be able to look past is more of an exception than a rule of his conduct. White only brought Rampage to the UFC thinking he was washed up after less than memorable endings to his Chute box fights and a close fight with Lindland thinking Chuck could get his revenge and prove the UFC’s dominance. Didn’t Dana lose a Mil on the fight with Rampage? It’s what he bet, at least publicly. I couldn’t believe it when Rampage unified the belts and there was no acknowledgement. When he had his incident after being robbed, in TUF and then in the ring, Dana saw an oppurtunity to seize the headlines and run with the Tysonesque theme…film at 11.
by Warhog on Sep 24, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec
After seeing what was left out I have to agree it seems pretty biased. I just commented how the writers here are pretty fair and balanced but this seems to deter me from my previous statement. “The man is in serious need of help:” you know what? I say fuck that arrogant statement of judgement. Then to say you left out a KEY piece of the article because of “real estate space” that is weak, and it brings up the question of wether or not you were banking on no one reading the whole article and just the piece that was cut and pasted. Kind of gives credence to Mark Cuban’s stance on blog / news sites. Don’t like the criticism? Now imagine how Rampage would feel.
by MrBlond3 on Sep 24, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I missing something?
The part left out just seems to be a UFC v Pride debate, nothing really relevant to his quitting, except saying the UFC treated him well.
How do you go from that to the piece being slander? I can understand you disagreeing with the statement about ’Page needing help, but you certainly went about it in a strange way.
Also, medical professional is such a broad claim that seems irrelevant unless you qualify it further. You could specialise in ingrown toenail removal for all we know.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 25, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ummm…All I have to say about your statement is :
Nice Username you got there.
(and that’s all that needs to be said)
by BNTHIS on Sep 27, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean….
Warhog, like many others, aren’t going to reveal their identities just to prove a point.
I mean if he wanted, he could post a Medical License or something but that would reveal his real name and on these blogs, there is an unwritten rule : Never Post your REAL name.
by BNTHIS on Sep 27, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
love the random sentence buried in the wall of text:
Wolves are the most loyal animals on the planet.
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
by Benicio on Sep 24, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wolves are loyal to wolves maybe? They live in pack and shit.
Lol whatever.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 24, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Final plug for the wolf’s lair maybe?
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 25, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One source close to the fighter characterized his actions differently, telling MMAWeekly.com Tuesday evening that Jackson said he "wasn’t going to fight for the UFC unless they offered him a (expletive) of money."
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9641&zoneid=13
Fuckload? Shitload? If this is all about money (and it always is even when people say it isn’t), then the response from Dana is actually pretty good: "Enjoy your movie career, see you in a year when you’re broke."
http://www.fightlinker.com/dana-white-talks-about-rampage-quitting.mma
UFC owner Lorenzo Fertitta told The Times in a text message today that he’s reaching out to Jackson’s manager for an explanation. “This all came out of left field,” Fertitta wrote.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/09/rampage-jackson-says-hes-done-fighting.html
by who me on Sep 24, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
All we had to do was come to a certain type of argreement or understanding, which later came after a lot of trash talk from Dana. My manager flew to Vegas & talked to them & tried to work things out like a MAN.
Working things out like a man is sending your manager to go work things out for you? Quite an odd statement to make.
by brad23 on Sep 24, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Since Rampage is so concerned about “respect”, doesn’t he think it was a bit “disrespectful” to flake out on a fight that was built around him fighting in his hometown? To both his fans and the UFC?
I don’t think any of us are Rampage fans because of his great work on King of Queens and Midnight Meat Train. We’re fans of a fighter, and him deciding to just blow off a fight after all this build up is just bs.
by Jason H. on Sep 25, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampage is looking for new fans he’s not anticipating only his fight fans will watch this movie. When he said that he was tired of the criticism from fans that dont feed his children or pay his bills, I know the first thing that you are thinking and thats “without fans he would be nowhere” yeah that kind of bullshit goes out the window. The fans he is referring to are the ones that are on blogs / sites talking trash etc. the majority of those critics dont even PAY for his fights they just go and download an illegal stream log on and talk shit about the guys that are in the cage. The guy has a solid point.
by MrBlond3 on Sep 25, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
needs help?? shrink??? i dont find anything he said sounded off or wrong…. i agree’d wit most of the stuff he said.
by DRExLOC on Sep 25, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
How about the part where he said his family treated him like shit as a kid and the only way his family accepts him now is as a fighter? Even if it’s all true that is the sort of thing that you should talk to someone about.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm done with Rampage.
Seriously, if he, and everyone else, can’t see how this move fucked the UFC and Dana (at least in the short term), especially after they stood up for him after his truck incident, then screw Page.
Seriously, that wall of text was full of inconsistencies and retarded “respect” and “MAN” garbage. He can keep running his life with that sort of logic and we will be reading a “What ever happened to Rampage?” story in a couple of years that delves into his decline into obscurity or how he was killed in a fight over some retarded threat to his highly respected manhood.
Frankly, its always these types that go on and on about their high regard for respect who show the least respect to others, be it his commentary on Rashad in this statement or dry humping some poor girl trying to perform an interview.
I now have no respect for him and won’t mind at all if he never comes back.
by Razreshat on Sep 25, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's Over
I don’t understand the need for Rampage to continue discussing the subject. His says he owes it to his fans. I’m a fan of Jackson’s. I get it. It’s over. Move on. You retired, so on to the next stage of your career. No need to go on and on about it. You feel disrespected by Dana White and the UFC. Okay… NEXT….
by KKamikaze on Sep 25, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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