Ultimate Fighter Coach Rashad Evans Responds to Quinton Rampage Jackson Retirement
by Kid Nate on Sep 23, 2009 3:06 PM EDT
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Rashad talks to Maggie Hendricks:
Did you hear what Rampage said about leaving the UFC? What do you think about it?
I think that him coming out and saying stuff like that was a bit premature. He's jumping the gun a little bit. Rampage is a very emotional fighter, a very emotional person, and he just let his emotions take over his rational thinking. I think that him and Dana White just probably need to talk it out, and get past it. I think it's just a breakdown in communication.Dana's the kind of guy who is going to say what is on his mind, maybe without thinking it through all the way, before he said. Rampage is a hothead, as well. You get two tempers like that, go at each other like that, it makes the situation hard to work through.
What are your thoughts on not fighting him?
I'd be disappointed not to fight him. It would be a good fight, a fun fight, but mostly because he talked trash. He got me really angry, and I want to fight him just because of that alone. It's a fight that people want to see. You get your mind wrapped up, and you get your mind so psyched up about fighting a fighter, and then it doesn't happen, it's disappointing.That's why I hate making a fight personal. At the end of the day, we're professional athletes, and we get paid to do a job. But when you get to fight someone you really want to fight, that's like a bonus. You'd almost do it for free.
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it's *from * maggie hendricks...
…kinda sounded like i’m saying i’m maggie. hahahaha.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 23, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of what I was thinking.
I was like wait, weoweoweo is Maggie Hendricks? Next thing you are going to tell me is that Nate is Subo!
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thanks for pointing that out
sorry i missed your fan post — should’vefronted that instead.
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" think that him coming out and saying stuff like that was a bit premature. He's jumping the gun a little bit."
I dont understand this comment from Rashad. He doesnt know Jackson at all. I understand his being upset that the fight seems off, but this is just strange.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
My question is.....
Who does Evans fight next with Rampage out of the picture?
I still believe in Ryan Garko...........
My guess would be
Silva since he just beat the crap out of his teammate/buddy Jardine.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Thats the fight Ive been hoping for since Rampage first said he was doing the A Team, sure hope the UFC will make it happen.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont know about that one.
I hope it would be good, but I tend to think that Rashad would beat Silva fairly easily.
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We talking about the same #1 P4P fighter?
Don’t get me wrong i think Rashad would win and i will be cheering for him but saying he would beat Silva fairly easily is just being silly.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 23, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
too many Silva's
ppl need to make it clear which silva they’re talking about, but what gave it away was the one “against Jardine” quote.
Normally I try to point out which one I
am talking about, but like you said the Jardine line should have done that.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Ahh haha yea was my bad, whenever someone says Silva he is the first one that pops into my head and I never even thought about Thiago fighting Evans. And tbh Jardine to me is just so forgettable =P
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 23, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No worries man.
I will try to be more clear next time. We do have a surplus of Silva’s during our discussions.
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how is this for confusing, when he said “Silva since he just beat the crap out of his teammate/buddy Jardine.”, I thought he meant WANDERLEI silva.
LOL, yeah.
I for sure wasnt even thinking that Wand had fought Jardine recently. Fuck!! I am really losing it today. I am going to start using first/middle/last & son of when referencing fighters from on.
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Considering they only do around 2 fights a year then it’s not that long ago.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 23, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh i think the man has already suffered enough today because of my idiotic post. =P
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 23, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I truly have.
But you getting like 20 replies saying “Thiago” was probably fun as well! lol
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Haha well the only thing i like more than one person telling me I’m wrong is dozens of folks telling me I’m wrong at the same time.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 23, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Very true,
that is always nice. I have been there before. Everyone piling on like “hey stupid, cant you read”?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Not the first time that I have looked like a idiot and wont be the last I’m sure =)
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 23, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Its cool man.
We have all been there.
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Yeah, Thiago Silva.
That is why I put “the guy who beat Jardine.”
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Did you just admit you think Rashad Evans would beat Anderson Silva?
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Why yes, yes i did.
The way i see it is that the only round Silva has ever lost (in the UFC) is against Hendo because of his wrestling, Rashad while not as good as Dan on the ground is pretty damn good himself plus the fact that he is stronger/bigger. I believe that he could hold his own in the stand up with Silva since he is also a great striker and could possibly GnP him for the win.
Hell maybe I’m crazy but Silva is not invincible and I think if we will ever see him lose in the Octagon it would be against Evans.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 24, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
wanna see how Evans vs Anderson Silva would look like?
see Evans vs. Machida..
And Rashad isn’t that much bigger than Anderson. Evans is a small 205er, Anderson cuts from 225 i think, and is taller and has longer reach.
And yes you are crazy..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 24, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Was actually speaking about how much bigger Evans was compared to Dan.
Now yes Evans did lose to Machida and it was a nasty KO but i would have to believe that he and Jackson would deploy a different game plan.
He has more than a strikers chance against Silva and is probably the only person in the UFC (outside of Lesnar and Machida) that could possibly beat him. I stand by what i said and hopefully he will get a shot at him before Silva’s contract is up.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 24, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Why do keep saying Rashad is so much bigger than Hendo?
I am pretty sure they are just about the same size.
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^^
They are both listed as 205 on the UFC site. But I think Hendo can go down, and Rashad can go up so there is a difference. But I agree, it’s not much of one.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I guess, but Rashad's ability
to move up to heavy doesnt really mean he is that much bigger than Hendo. If they met at light heavy I doubt there would be much of a difference sizewise. That just seemed to be his main point that Evans was SOOO much bigger than Dan & that simply isnt true.
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My main point wasn’t that he is bigger that Dan, and i didn’t say that he was SOOO much bigger just that he was in fact bigger and stronger, seems that just wants to be your main arguing point.
Hendo made Silva lose his only round in the UFC and in the division where he is the most dangerous, now sure Silva is still extremely dangerous in LHW as well but i like i said he can lose and Rashad could be the only one to make it happen.
I’m hoping that somehow or someway Shogun will beat Machida then Silva will beat Shogun for the title, if that happens then we may just get to see Rashad vs Silva for the title (assuming Couture wont get in the way).
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 24, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva is harder to hit than Machida, and made Henderson tap out on the ground.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Silva ishardereasier to hit than Machida
Fixed.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
We’ve been through this.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
We have...
Machida has the lowest SApM (strikes absorbed per minute) of any fighter in UFC history by a very large margin. Coming into the fight last night, Machida’s SApM was 0.58. After the fight, that dropped to 0.55. The next lowest SApM belongs to Anderson Silva, but it’s not even close. Silva’s SApM is 0.73, even after 25 minutes of not getting hit by Thales Leites. Just as a reminder, Fedor’s SApM is 0.53.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
But yeah, let’s get really down in the dumb mud and argue Einsteins Theory of Elusivity.
.
Where da = dodge, dN = backpedal and C = weave.
.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
By the way, no need for you to reply. I know, “troll”, “playing the victim” and “flagged”.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
that was trolling..
and in this instance, iiowyn’s right. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 24, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Is no one reading what I wrote?
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I wrote Anderson obviously.
You know, the guy who just beat Jardine & sent him running out of the ring, right?
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Right. The Brazilian Silva.
That doesnt narrow down what I am talking about for anyone?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
All the above comments read like a Seinfeld bit
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Sep 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I felt like I was on the show!
Bizarro world.
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People are throwing out Hendo
For the next shot at 205 and it makes the most sense but I wouldnt rule out Rampage coming back just yet.
If Dana cant mend the situation I would expect Lorenzo too and Lorenzo has a way of calming everyone down and making the situation right.
Nobody wants to see Rampage leave and Rampage isnt at a point where he can only make movies so my guess is a deal gets worked out.
Who is throwing out Hendo @205?
Why would he move up when in all likelihood he is next or one fight away from a rematch w/A. Silva?
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I guess,
but it would seem kind of pointless to move up when he is so close to a title shot?
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i think he knows that Nate is a beast.
and its going to be tough to beat up Nate. so maybe he is looking the easiest way to a title shot?
You may be right,
but it still doesnt make sense for him to move up when he is this close to a massive payday/title shot.
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IF he beats Nate.....wich i dont really think so.
IMO Nate evolved as a fighter way more then Hendo….we all know he has an olimpic caliber wrestling….and an over hand right….anything else?
I wasnt even talking about him facing Nate at all.
If he just refuses to fight Nate, they will likely give him another crack at Silva anyway.
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well then i guess he has to wait.
you think he can afford waiting? we all know how Silva gets when he doesn’t get the fights he wants. he might injure himself again?
Who knows?
Hendo is not under contract currently, so to sign him they may have to give him his shot.
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You think he has a better chance at A. SIlva then Machida?
i would love to see how Machida will deal with a great wrestler. and i do know he is very elusive and it will be hard to catch him…but my mind wonders……
that’s why I said he hasn’t been showing it much as of late :P
to be fair though, Tito is considered a great wrestler and Machida threw him around like a lil kid
Tito’s a good wrestler but nowhere near the caliber that Hendo or Couture are.
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Sep 23, 2009 7:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont know honestly.
I have not seen Machida get taken down really, so I dont know how he might do off his back. But I would think that Machida being so elusive would likely be real bad news for Hendo.
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Right.
I have only seen Machida fight like 6 or 7 times & I cant remember anyone doing good wrestling against him, but other than Tito I cant remember him really facing a good wrestler either. I do think the only chance Hendo has to beat either of them is to keep the fight on the mat.
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Just curious Orcus,
I know you have said before that you are Brazilian. Do you live in Brazil now?
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Cool.
I was just wondering cuz I dont know the time zone that you are in & you seem to be on here @pretty much the same time as me. (TX by the way) I am trying to get my brother & Dad to go down there at some point to do some fishing.
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Currently we’re two hours ahead of you (depending on the season you’ll be visiting that may change due to day lights saving). You’re coming to Brazil just for fishing? Come over during Carnival (just don’t go to Rio), you’ll have a blast.
I would love to come for Carnival!
But my Dad is 62 & disabled. He would definitely love seeing the ladies, but I doubt it would be as much fun for me with him there.
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yeah, but come during a different season for sure, go to Salvador, you’ll have a blast. very safe city and great for all ages.
Sounds sweet.
So when is the best season to come for Carnival, etc?
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carnival is in the beginning of February, but for your dad that’s really not going to be very good (too many ppl, think Mardi Gra), but all other months besides that is good!
Probably right.
I was actually thinking about planning a trip for me & a couple of buddies to come down for Carnival now & doing fishing another time.
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Is it bad in Rio or what?
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yeah
just too much crime, and if you’re talking funny (ie different language) it’s even worse. but most other cities are fine, this is a Rio problem not a Brazilian one.
I'm being too harsh on rio
if you know where to go you’d be fine, but for someone that don’t know you could end up being lost somewhere and it’s no fun. I’ve been to Rio once, I’m sure not going back there hehe
Well if you are not
going back then I am pretty sure that I dont want to go.
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I am tired,
but I have no idea what the “talking funny” means?
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Oh!! Now I get it.
My foreign accent would likely draw unwanted attn to me. lol
Good to know.
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exactly, but I don’t want to sound like this is a problem everywhere here, it really resides in Rio only. I have American friends here and there is no problem here where I live (Belo Horizonte). I travel frequently throughout Brazil as well, and also see no problem anywhere else.
Much appreciated!
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To be fair,
I am from TX so my accent pretty much draws unwanted attn to me wherever I go. lol
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Currently the only guy harder to take down in the UFC is GSP.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
yeah
I really like Machida and have to acknowledge his skills, if he were fighting anyone else besides Shogun (and hypothetically for the future lil nog), I’d be rooting for him. just can’t go against my boy shogun!
I am torn on who I will root for
between Machida & Shogun, If the old Shogun comes back it would be really exciting for the division. I guess I really dont care who wins, I just dont want either to lose badly. I want a WAR!!
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BJ's mom is writing you a letter!
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Sep 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
would still love to see that fight.
plus IMO Hendo has a better chin the Shad. and Tito… i hate the dude and never really thought much about him. but he is no where close to Hendo’s wrestling. its not just a regular shoot for a double or a single BS…we are talking about Grecko roman clinch.,
But what would be the reason for Hendo going back to 205? I just cant see why he would do it, a fight between him and Nate would make the most sense and would help him out way more than moving up and down the UFC divisions.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Sep 23, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesnt want to fight Nate though
He said if he cant get his rematch with Anderson he wants big fights at 205 and Rashad is a big fight at 205.
I’m with you on Nate/Dan but Dan has no interest in that fight and so I threw out a logical move.
For the next shot at 205 and it makes the most sense
Hendo hasn’t done anything that would entitle him a title shot at 205
Ok but take Rampage out of the picture
If Rampage is gone and Rua/Machida just fought who is left at 205.
I guess Thiago Silva makes sense but I think Hendo/Rashad is more marketable and so I wouldnt be suprised to see the UFC go that route.
if you’re saying Hendo vs Rashad than I can see that working, but Hendo going straight in title contention should not happen, he’d need a few wins at 205 first. 205 is still stacked, hell, lil’ nog would be more deserving of a title shot at 205 before Hendo in the current situation.
I'm saying Hendo vs. Rashad for the next title shot
The thing you have to remember is marketability plays a huge factor in fights.
I dont think Lil Nog is more deserving then Hendo right now at 205 and he still has to get passed Luiz Cane.
The other thing is you have to remember casual fans dont remember as much as hardcore fans. So to the casual fan you could sell the fact that Hendo took Rampage to a decision, beat Franklin, beat Bisping, and if he beats Rashad because the casual fans wont know or care really that the Bisping fight was at 185.
I agree
I misread what you said above, I thought you meant Hendo was deserving of a shot at 205 right away. But don’t worry about lil’ nog, he’ll take out cane for sure :P (and then fight one more time for his shot, he’s got the Nog look-a-like thing going for him hehe)
was wondering when Rashad would be brought up, he loses out the most in this! He won’t see another pay day like this potentially could have been again! What does Rampage think, he’s gonna be the next Will Smith? what a loser!
Summa Summatime
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Well Jazzy Jeff & Da Fresh Prince
did both sing Summatime, so….
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Shad is screwed. This was his one big fight option. Unless they match him up with Anderson, I dont see a big money fight for a guy who got TKFO’ed in his last outing.
I still don't think andy is a draw
that would be a bad fight for suga, it would go down the same way the machida fight went, with the exception that he would be out longer this time :P
I am not a Rashad fan,
but you cant compare Thiago Silva to Machida really.
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there were a lot of ppl saying machida hadn’t proved himself and that suga was going to beat him easily. I’m sure if anyone has the patience to go back through the threads they would see that most ppl were saying that.
Machida was a favorite going into this match. I don’t know about here, I don’t remember anyone saying rashad would beat machida. Many people thought he could do it, they said if there is someone that can beat him, it would be someone like rashad, with good wrestling and good boxing, something like that.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
Well, he had another option and he turned it down.
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This whole thread is ridiculous!
Rampage and Rashad are going to fight. Dana and Rampage just need to settle on the terms. IMHO.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Settle on the terms?
Like when will Rampage be done shooting this movie?
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ESPN's Sports Nation just discussed the Rampage story...
They felt it was stupid for Page to “leave” fighting for acting.
They compared it to Robert De Niro going 4 for 5 in a softball game and then quitting acting to play for the Yankees. I love it!
A true MMA fan from the great state of Arkansas.
This isnt exactly comparable,
but Jim Brown did the same thing once he felt he had done all he could do in football. I just feel that it seems like Page’s heart isnt in fighting right now, so I have no problem with him hopefully just taking a sebatical.
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