A Quick Analysis of Rampage Jackson's "Retirement"
by Michael Rome on Sep 22, 2009 10:00 PM EDT
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I was really worried when Dana started going on and on slamming Quinton that this would blow up in his face, especially when he started revealing payment details. Rampage just responded, and claimed he is "done" fighting. I don't believe he's really done; I'm sure he'll make up with Dana again over this. But he has called Dana's bluff and it will be interesting to see what Dana says. Here is Rampage in his own words at his blog (registration required):
Dana went on the internet & mocked me because of that & I still did nothing. Dana & I finally talked & we made up & then after that he went back on the internet & said some bullshit & he was talking bad about the movie when information is not even supposed to be released & talking about payments which is not even true could really hurt my future acting career, which could very well last longer than my fighting career. I'm not like Randy Couture. My body has been getting so many different injuries that I wont be able to fight until my forties & neither do I want to fight that long.
So I feel like my second career could be in jeopardy.. so I'm done fighting. I've been getting negative reviews from the dumb ass fans that don't pay my bills or put my kids though college. So I'm hanging it up. I'm gonna miss all my loyal fans but hopefully they'll follow me to my new career & I will gain more loyal fans along the way.
Consider me skeptical about this "retirement." If anything it seems like Dana kept slamming him publicly, and when he kept doing it after they made up, Rampage snapped. I don't know if this is the case, but payment agreements are often confidential, and Dana talking about it in public could have put Quinton in hot water.
It seems we can't have a period of time in which the UFC isn't at war with one of its star fighters. I absolutely believe he will end up fighting Rashad Evans, but it all depends on how Dana handles this. He can either go to Rampage privately and sort this all out, or he can come out and bash him for all sorts of things, and remind everyone how he stood behind Rampage after the car chase. It's really up to Dana at this point. Sometimes it's not about being right; it's about doing what's best for business and what's best for the fans.
One thing Rampage's people should know is that no fighter has ever emerged from a PR war with Dana White as the victor. Tito Ortiz's public image suffered mightily, Randy Couture was cast as a greedy liar, Fedor's status gets questioned all the time...the list goes on and on. And it's not like Rampage has a sophisticated PR machine to combat the spin that will come from the UFC side.
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Dana tends to win PR wars because he is usually right.
by Razzel on Sep 22, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
he wins it because he has a bunch of sheeps that believes everything that comes out of his mouth!
by Orcus on Sep 22, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
sorry, let me change that to he has more fans than his fighters :P
I didn’t mean sheep directly towards you.
Haha, it’s not a jedi mind trick. He states his side of the story, the fighters state theirs, and it’s usually pretty clear that Dana is right.
well, sometimes I agree with Dana too
in the Couture and Fedor issue I’m with DW 100%, on this Page issue though I’m with page 100%
I don’t know, Page is contradicting himself over and over here. He says he wanted to fight Machida and Dana said no? That Rashad turned down a fight with him to fight Machida? That he was supposed to be on the reality show and then fight Machida instead of Rashad?
All of that sounds extremely unlikely to me, and I know I remember seeing a video several months ago where Rampage said he chose Rashad becomes it would be a bigger money fight.
sure
Page is full of shit, that is not actually why I’m with him 100%, I only back his right to be open to opportunities such as making a movie and pulling out of the fight with Rashad. But rampage always talks a lot of crap, and a lot of it is false for sure.
You should also change that “sheeps” to “sheep”.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 22, 2009 11:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can we say they both fucked up and leave it at that?
I doubt either one is “right”. Rampage better realize that he’s burning bridges here, and Dana’s mouth cost him a popular fighter.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Sep 22, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
agreed, no one owns the truth, it usually lies in the middle. they’ll make up for sure, I mean, Dana made up with tito after tito worn a pretty bad T-shirt
http://www.mmaconvert.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/tito-ortiz-ufc84_weigh_in.jpg
agree with themachiavellian
sucks for Page b/c can you really name any pro athlete who left their sport to become a actor full time? anyone? i can’t think of one.
Rampage had a few good years and plenty of interesting fights left in him
Open up mouth insert foot Dana, I guess the Dana “tough guy” front got old for Jackson and he just went off and retired
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there may be too many bad corollaries here, but what the hell...
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by Anthony Pace on Sep 23, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Rampage will most likely fight in the UFC again because of simple probability and statistics…
Add to your question the following ( how many sports figures have made it in Hollywood), Then:
How many new actors have made it in hollywood after making their major debut, playing a well known personality?
What are you going to do after being Mr’ T’s BA Barrucus.
The probability is like nil.
Rampage could be serious...
He could probably have a great career in Hollywood. There are plenty of no-talent ass clowns in Hollywood that have made it. Rampage has personality unlike many of the other UFC fighters that have tried to act.
If he wants a serious career in Hollywood then he better toughen up his skin for what’s to come. Dana White’s mouth is nothing compared to the Hollywood hate machine, heck they have made an entire industry out of digging for dirt on celebrities. White doesn’t have anything on Star Magazine as far as saying inflammatory things goes and Hollywood movie execs are famous for throwing people under the bus. Leaving the UFC for Hollywood is like leaving the swimming pool to dive with the sharks in that regard.
so you’re saying he should be scared and should stay in the UFC because he’s not up to the challenge?
No I’m saying that if Dana saying stuff in a couple of interviews has this kind of affect on him then Hollywood is going to eat him alive. Dana’s mouth has nothing on TMZ or the things the paparazzi will pull. Burning the bridge with the UFC and saying it’s a respect issue and then going to the most cut throat and disrespectful industry in the world(bar politics) may not be a good move for him unless he toughens up his skin on these kind of things.
Roger Huerta news
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/huerta-not-calling-it-quits-19875
He wants back in the UFC. I hate doing fan posts. Sorry :)
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This kidney stone will pass.
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An Interesting Thought--Why Do you Suppose this is?
“One thing Rampage’s people should know is that no fighter has ever emerged from a PR war with Dana White as the victor. Tito Ortiz’s public image suffered mightily, Randy Couture was cast as a greedy liar, Fedor’s status gets questioned all the time…the list goes on and on. And it’s not like Rampage has a sophisticated PR machine to combat the spin that will come from the UFC side.”
by Rob Maysey on Sep 22, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Anyone who goes on a interstate rampage in a monster truck with their picture on the side and says it was because he drank too many energy drinks and thought he was Jesus should probably avoid PR wars with anyone. The UFC wins against these guys in a PR war because there are so many issues to start with and none of them are saints, it’s not just because the UFC is some kind of evil all powerful machine here it’s because the guys that have gone up against them have been fairly easy PR targets. Couture stood a chance but Tito had PR issues when he was friendly with the UFC.
Anyone who goes on a interstate rampage in a monster truck with their picture on the side and says it was because he drank too many energy drinks and thought he was Jesus should probably avoid PR wars with anyone. The UFC wins against these guys in a PR war
we all remember the cautionary tale of fred ettish and how badly he lost is pr war after he went on his monster truck rampage
Chuck Liddell must be happy.
Seriously though, no way Rampage just walks from this. Even if he does find some minor success with the A-Team movie, chances are his movie career won’t pan out the way he thinks it will. Just like Tito, just like Randy… he’ll be back.
I love me some Sexyama!
SAY it ain't so Rampage! Say it AIN'T SO!
I love Rampage, I know he’ll be back once he just has a little sand in the vagina
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
meh...
I know he’ll be back,
oncehe just has a little sand in the vagina.
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Sep 22, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And now, Ricardo Arona can safely come to the UFC, with no threat of powerbombing.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by P Brady on Sep 22, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
boosh!
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Sep 22, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
it was good to see them use that clip in the TUF 10 promo/intro. surprised ufc doesn’t turn to the pride footage for cool stuff more often
Rampage has a second career?
Listen, Rampage is no thespian. He might make it into the sequel, but that’s about it. I can’t see him doing much more.
You mean there isn’t a market in Hollywood for a replacement MrT?
What amazes me about this entire situation is how did MrT lose a audition to someone else to play MrT in a movie??
He’s only 57, that’s still young enough to play yourself in a movie (and lets face it the A team character was just Mr T playing himself).
I guess, if you make a movie with them all being old, but not for a remake…
imagine a new charlie’s angels flick with the original characters playing themselves…
A 50 year old man can get away with playing a 30 year old man, a 50 year old woman just can’t. Of course maybe T will get lucky and can get a role in a made for TV story about Ramage’s Rampage on lifetime?
c’mon, would rambo 4 have been good with stalone playing a 30 year old bad ass? it was good because he was playing his age (even though he still had un-human powers, but that’s rambo). he also played his age for the new rocky movie because he knew he couldn’t sale a younger rocky if he played it himself, the rocky movie sucked but it worked for rambo.
Stallone is 63 years old (and looks it), he can’t get away with playing a 30 year old, Mr T is ageless and unique in the world (thank God). I mean it is Mr T we are talking about he can do anything(except get work in Hollywood). Would any Rocky movie been as good without Stallone in it?
Mr T deserves more respect for the true acting genius he is :D
Ok you do realize that I used the term “true acting genius” and posting a picture of cereal to emphasize my Mr T point right? You don’t have to seriously argue with me I was being sarcastic from the very start. I’m starting to wonder if you didn’t get that? It is the irony that Mr T (who very much wanted the role) didn’t get the role of Mr T that is so damn funny.
(my next point was going to be that they could just animate the new A team movie or use visual affects to make T look young and I was going to use a picture of Mr T’s cartoon and Jar Jar Binks but I started wondering if you were taking this serious?)
Ok you do realize that I used the term “true acting genius” and posting a picture of cereal to emphasize my Mr T point right? You don’t have to seriously argue with me I was being sarcastic from the very start. I’m starting to wonder if you didn’t get that? It is the irony that Mr T (who very much wanted the role) didn’t get the role of Mr T that is so damn funny.
(my next point was going to be that they could just animate the new A team movie or use visual affects to make T look young and I was going to use a picture of Mr T’s cartoon and Jar Jar Binks but I started wondering if you were taking this serious?)
sarcasm doesn't translate well into writing
of course I was taking you seriously, you sounded like you actually believed he could play that role at that age. Don’t assume we can always pick up on sarcasm when you write stuff, the internet nowadays is filled with ignorance (this is not directed towards you) so when we read something that doesn’t sound right I usually assume that person is nuts :P
Here is a quick way to tell, if anyone mentions Mr T and acting then they aren’t serious :D Sometimes I forget you aren’t American but even in writing that seemed to be pretty blatant as an attempt at humor. I was just looking for a reason to make fun of Mr T because this topic is getting overplayed and I thought it would be funny to show just what Rampage Jackson is giving up MMA for :D
If you haven’t seen the Mr T Flavorwave oven then this is a must see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrVWyj-XcbQ
Watch out Mr T, Rampage Jackson is coming to steal your thunder ! :D
lol, I see what you mean, and I didn’t know his whole story, I only remember watching the show when I was a kid. my brain usually stops working at around 10pm, it’s two in the morning here where I’m at so it’s on overdrive, things are harder for me to understand around this time, but reading your comments back it makes sense now :P
I’ve been a Rampage fan for years…I’ve defended him when he was down and I was the only guy in the bar cheering when he fought Chuck.
But honestly, Rampage is coming off bad here because he looks bad:
After Rampage has his “incident”, the UFC sets him up against Wandy which is only marketable to hardcore fans and Rampage.
After the Jardine fight, where they had built up Rampage to fight Rashad for the belt, Rampage is hurt and doesn’t want to fight. No problem! He takes time off and Rashad fights Machida.
After that they ask Rampage to challenge for the belt, and now he wants to fight Rashad again. Even though there’s more in it for UFC to have the Rampage title fight, they set up Machida-Shogun (which is going to be incredibly hard to market) and decide to build up Rampage-Rashad.
Rampage is put on TUF, a huge season by all accounts with the way they stacked the cast, against Rashad to build up this big fight (that Rampage asked for).
They book their first card ever in Rampage’s hometown right after the reality show so Rampage can have a fight in the city he wants with the opponent he wants and get the highest possible cut of the PPV.
Rampage turns around and says he’s going to go pretend to be Mr T. and blows off the entire show. Then when UFC gets grumpy about that he takes his ball and goes home.
How is UFC the bad guy in this? They basically spent a year bending over backwards and giving Rampage everything he wants, and he says eff it and goes off to do a novelty role in a movie. Does he actually believe he’s going to build an “acting career” off of this? If he wants an example, how successful was Mr. T? And this is in the 80’s when movies generally tended to have a lot more silly random cameo characters.
Basically if Rampage quits fighting, he’ll do the A-Team movie and a couple other random throwaway movie roles based on novelty (ala 50 Cent) and that’ll be it for him. Maybe he could turn up in WWE after that.
The real losers here are his fans. I stood by while Rampage dicked around for the last year and a half and he just up and decides to take his ball and go home? People like us are the reason he’s getting offered these movie roles at all.
by Jason H. on Sep 22, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 13 recs
well said
dana wins these “pr wars” b/c he is on the right side of them. this does not surprise me at all. rampage was looking for a way out. i knew from the beginning this was not going to be a good thing for the ufc, only for rampage. oh well, mma and the ufc will go on.
Well said.
But I guarantee you he is not done fighting in the UFC.
by GoldenOldie on Sep 22, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This sport is (uniquely) coming of age in the information era
But it doesn’t mean that every one of the UFC’s battles has to be in the public sphere. Seems to me that all that needed to be said was something along the lines of expressing disappointment that he wasn’t going to make the planned fight. Calling him stupid in public was unnecessary, and ultimately provoked Jackson (albeit likely only temporarily) into further disagreement.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
Additionally
A lot of people seem concerned that the UFC/White was “right” and therefore are completely justified in what has been said. The UFC’s goal is to make money by promoting MMA fights and fighters. Provoking a marketable star (indeed, one you are just ebmarking on marketing heavily doesn’t make them any additional money, which I feel should weigh in some degree to just how “rightous” they are in this matter.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
People have opinions. Opinions happen.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 22, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well…Opinions ARE like a-holes….everyone has one. right? :)
by BNTHIS on Sep 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I fear Dana is about to unleash hell. This is the problem… Dana says shit and the fights escalate. But what people dont know is If Dana kept quiet and simply used Zuffa’s contractual rights as weapons in these fights instead (like every other business does) – its the way harder end of the stick.
Dana never exercises those rights proactively – and that’s probably smart on some level. But then he has nothing else to do other than to bash the guy for screwing him.
Because of Dana’s ball scratching philosophy the fights end up becoming “this is what I did for you”, “This is what I did for you”…. instead of party A: “these are my contractual rights” and Party B “These are my contractual rights” – “now where do we go from here.”
What is he supposed to say to Rampage? They already talked behind closed doors to rectify the problems this has caused…
Is Rampage retiring worse than pulling out of this fight to do a movie? that’s debatable… Because how can you invest in a fight where one of the main eventers might pull out because of a movie?
Again its not about Rampage doing movies, or Rampage not accepting a fight because of a movie… its about rampage pulling out of an already agreed to, committed, promoted and marquee fight to do a movie.
Thats why the implications aren’t as simple as “duh, move the fight”. The first time the fight was supposed to be moved the production changed its schedule… so who’s to say it wont happen again?
by mmalogic on Sep 23, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
good example of why Dana should not be buddy buddy with the fighters
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Sep 23, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously, there are a lot of legal/contractual angles here. I’ve mentioned it a million times, but the UFC benefits quite a bit from classifying fighters as independent contractors rather than employees. Now when they face the downside of this classification, they’re outraged by it.
To me there are a lot of things they could have learned from this without coming out and calling Quinton stupid, exposing his pay, etc etc. Mainly they could have added new clauses and even sent the studio a cease and desist for contractual interference. Instead it’s playground tactics with Dana mocking Rampage and making quasi-racist jokes about The Love Boat.
The real guy getting screwed here is Rashad, who turned down quite a bit of money to fight Couture to wait for Rampage. That was going to be a big payday, and he would have been a huge favorite to win. If they don’t make up, who will Rashad fight that will be close to as big? I guess there’s always Tito 2.
by Michael Rome on Sep 23, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
That was going to be a big payday, and he would have been a huge favorite to win.
Who would have?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
Rashad would have been a big favorite to beat Randy Couture.
by Michael Rome on Sep 23, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
What I don’t get is why they didn’t put Couture in for Rampage as soon as they heard about Rampage pulling out. Now they have a Memphis card being headlined by BJ and Diego, which won’t draw half of Rashad v. Rampage/Couture. 105 could’ve been salvaged by throwing money at Hendo and pitting him against Nate Marquardt.
Instead, we have Couture/Vera in Manchester, and Diego/BJ in Memphis, and zero fights for Rashad. It could have been Hendo/Nate in Manchester, Rashad/Couture in Memphis, and BJ/Diego could’ve been in Vegas on Jan. 2, or even been in Memphis which would’ve stacked that card.
Oh ok sorry, I’m retarded and thought u were talking about the Rampage fight. Yeah I wish he’d have fought Randy I’d love to put some money on Couture at -225 or so.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 23, 2009 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t see where this has to do with the independent contractor tag on guys, it has to do with everything that was already agreed on a put into place here. Did Rampage already sign a bout agreement, didn’t he know going in to TUF that having the fight right after the show goes off is really important to that working as a promotional tool for the fight, isn’t the fact that they were specifically going to his home town with him as a headliner a huge issue that precludes them just moving the fight easily? It’s a real complicated web here and a lot of it really does come down to how much did the UFC know about the A Team role and when were they told about it.That falls outside of the scope of a independent contractor issue.
I do agree 100% that the person that is actually getting the shaft is Rashad. Rampage and the UFC will both end up as they end up but Rashad did everything right and he is left holding the bag.
Legally, the independent contractor issue matters. My belief based on what I’ve heard is Jackson had not signed a bout agreement. As an independent contractor, without a bout agreement, he was basically free to sign onto other gigs. Especially because you have to consider the alternative: if the UFC decided to do another fight on Dec. 12 for some reason, and hadn’t had Rampage sign a bout agreement yet, they would have been perfectly free to simply change the date.
Without an actual bout agreement, I’m not sure they have much.
by Michael Rome on Sep 23, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
That would get into oral agreements and expectations at that point, there would be a case that there was a expectation that Jackson would fight Evans after TUF was over but that gets into some really cloudy areas there. Being an independent contractor shouldn’t be something that is villianized though as it does have things that work in both sides favor, it’s not like the UFC is evil for doing business that way. Even in a independent contractor situation you are just not free to go off and do something else, there is still a employer and employee relationship involved with it. In this case both sides have areas where they are ok and areas where they may be in the wrong legally and in a common respect for that relationship sense.
Rampage pretty much screwed the UFC’s plans for the last quarter of the year with this, considering that it was not only a big bout in Rampage’s home town it was also the TUF coach fight this was pretty much going to be a huge part of everything they had going as far as tv for the remainder of the year and White really did a inexcusable number on Rampage in the press on a number of occasions that will make it hard for Rampage to go forward with either career path now. This “retirement” announcement in the end is going to hurt Rampage too but that is a self inflicted wound there.
Zuffa has his ass on Video saying:
“IM FIGHTING RASHAD EVANS ON DECEMBER 12th in MEMPHIS TN”
multiple times.
The real question is not whether or not Zuffa can win in court… the question is whether or not Zuffa can legally create enough headaches for the Studio (which happens to be on a schedule) to just dump Rampage.
Zuffa definitely has enough ammo to do this but Dana didnt want to because rampage is his “partner” and “best friend in the whole wide world”.
yeah… why do you think this “retirement” announcement came now.
Zuffa can still sue the movie studio for interfering with a scheduled fight. Zuffa cant stop quinton from making movies if he’s not scheduled and committed to a fight… but he already committed to this fight.
Its a whole mess… Zuffa can stop this from taking place but then you also have to sue Rampage at this point.
These are standard business practices and should have started the conversation so this situation wouldn’t have escalated to this… and ultimately it may probably end up here anyway.
But alas Dana is “best friends” with these guys.
I think your right;
I think the way to deal with this would of been directly and through closed doors (despite anything that was made public), rampage couldn’t be stupid enough to think that he could just not fight after doing the TUF season….
But here is something to think about; Rampage didnt do very well mentally with the last season he did on TUF; Maybe he has had another mental breakdown this time before he fights…
I wouldnt be surprised to not hear much about this for a while; in the mean time i miagine Zuffa HQ is going freaking crazy trying to work options and talk to rampage…
Ramapage was the reason i started watching MMA; but this is a dick move and im not going to be a fan of his much longer…
seems like there’s a lot of “Sopranos” stuff going on here, when I feel like it should be like when I was 16 and worked at Piggly Wiggly.
hopefully Rampage don’t end up like Big Pussy.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
meant as reply to mmalogic
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Sep 23, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
no not like that…
its like the “honor system”… Dana needs to learn that shit dont work. its not fair to him and quite frankly its not fair to the fighters.
Im talking about:
Party A :“here are our contractual rights and here is our position”
Party B: “here are our contractual rights and here is our position”
NOT This “I did your hair now you have to do mine”… this bullshit needs to stop.
Dana has always done things this way. Talks nonstop about his “partners” and the people he trusts, for all the talk about him being a NEW style CEO his style is actually very old fashioned.
To me their first move should have been the legal move outlined above.
It’s also my understanding that Rampage committed verbally but never signed a bout agreement for December 12, a major factor in a court case. Suing Rampage is going to be very hard, the UFC reserves the right to change dates before bout agreements are signed, court going to be very reluctant to uphold an agreement that one side can back out of and the other can’t. It’s void for lack of consideration I believe.
by Michael Rome on Sep 23, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I just want to throw this out there for whoever is reading this.
I have absolutely zero desire to see an A-Team movie. I care about an A-Team movie as much as I cared about Dukes of Hazzard. I’m 24, the idea of an A-Team movie is totally irrelevant to my interests. Rampage, you’re an idiot, no one wants to see you act, let alone act as Mr. T (a parody of a parody of a parody).
This movie will turn you into a D-list celebrity and one huge joke.
Fortunately for Rampage, your opinion is not going to be a common one.
People are not going to see this movie because they liked the A-Team. The combination of people being familiar with the name and Bradley Coooper, Liam Neeson, Jessica Biel, and Ridley Scott are going to make this movie a summer blockbuster.
I’m not saying that Rampage is 100% right in this situation, but most of the comments I read on this story seem to be missing that point. This isn’t Never Surrender, this isn’t Tekken, this isn’t Red Belt, This is a serious movie.
WOW!
I will see anything with Jessica Biel.
Love that chick. This movie will SELL!
Liam Neeson is wicked too. Taken was awesome.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 23, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually thought Randy Couture won that PR war with the UFC.
Randy is such a sympathetic figure to most it would be hard to trash his character convincingly.
Every time I think this situation can't get any dumber …
… Dana and Rampage prove me wrong.
I’m actually losing brain cells from the fumes just from standing to close to it at this point.
Delaying a fight to remake a bad show into a bad movie? Dumb. Losing one of the best 205ers over it? Even dumber.
Ball is in your court now, Dana. Take it to the next level of stupidity and swear Rampage will never fight in the org again. Then we can have a nice few years without him while he’s in his prime, like we have with BJ and Tito (twice).
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Sep 23, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
Randy, too. And don’t tell me it wasn’t his prime. Randy’s prime is infinite.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Sep 23, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
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