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Dan Henderson: "Anderson Silva is really trying not to fight me":

"I think I'm the one guy that poses enough dangers [to Silva] style-wise," Henderson said. "If I were his manager, I'd be trying not to have him fight me as well. I know that Anderson Silva is really trying not to fight me. It's obvious."

Henderson said if the UFC came to him with a bout against Marquardt, he would turn it down and seek challenges at light heavyweight.

"I think Marquart's right in line for a title shot as well, but I feel I've earned that already," Henderson said. "That's a fight that more than likely will happen in the future, but I think right now, from the UFC's standpoint, they shouldn't be having me and Nate fight each other. They're going to get stuck without any new opponents for Anderson Silva. Silva is the only fight that interests me at 185."

HT: Josh Gross at SI.com

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I’m sure he’s terrified, Dan.

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by An0nymous on Sep 2, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Dan “Hypocrisy” Henderson!

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Sep 2, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry Hendo

I love ya man, but don’t let the KO of Bisping go to your considering the fact that circled right into your power hand the whole fight. I think Hendo fears Marquardt!!!

by BONESJONES on Sep 2, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Hendo fears Marquardt specifically. More like he fears the possibility of his rematch with Anderson that took him a while to earn might be put in jeopardy. If he loses to Marquardt, then he could kiss that rematch goodbye.

I personally don’t think the UFC should put Hendo vs Marquardt, precicely because it eliminates a viable opponent for Silva. It’s taken a while to try and rebuild the devision, and while I think Silva beats both guys again, I think it might be a bit more competative the second time around. Or at least entertaining.

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by pud333 on Sep 2, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know a way to settle who deserves a shot at Silva more…

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Sep 2, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

lol!

rec’d

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by mythbuster on Sep 2, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He might not get the shot...

so he has to hype it. Say what you gotta say. I don’t want to see Marquardt vs Henderson yet. I would rather see the rematch. Silva has earned the right to get bored though.

by Billzeboss on Sep 2, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

The only part I agree with is that the UFC will be ruining two contenders for the sake of defining one of them.

Both deserve a shot, and both should get a shot, Hendo then Marquardt.

I don’t see the point of Hendo and Marquardt fighting so that Anderson can screw around at 205 when he has no goal of becoming champion there.

by DirtyML on Sep 2, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Have you seen changes in either of their skillsets that make you think that either of them has a chance against Silva? I haven’t/

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by jemaleddin on Sep 2, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have

Henderson came in against Bisping in much much better shape at 185 than we’ve ever seen him in his entire career at that weight. He has shown he can put Silva on his back already. If he comes in against Silva as sharp as he did against Bisping, he has a very good chance.
Ditto Marquardt, before he lost to Silva he was a tentative fight not to lose guy. Now he’s DTK — down to kill. He also got Silva down in their first fight. I think the new more aggressive Marquardt has a small but very real chance against Silva.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The new “DTK Nate” has an infinitely better chance of winning than the old Nate did, that’s for sure. It’s still low percentage but its much better than next to zero.

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by The_Gaijin on Sep 2, 2009 1:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The $40 question

Would you put money on either of those guys?

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by jemaleddin on Sep 2, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone is worth putting money on at the right price

by bigweeze on Sep 2, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont agree Kid Nate..

I think his conditioning has been the same throughout. He didn’t have problems in the past so why make excuses for him now ??

He had ample time to cut weight and be in shape, as did Silva. He looked good right up until Silva decided it was time to fight.. lol He looked great against Bisping because he didn’t respect Bisping’s power & that was the only way for Bisping to win the fight was to catch Dan. Styles makes fights and Bisping made Hendo look better than he should.. The same cant be said for Silva. Silva is bigger than Dan and I honestly don’t see a rematch with Hendo turning out any different than the last fight.. If he thinks he is going to just hold Silva down for 5 rounds and cover his mouth to eek a decision, he’s wrong.. Silva will catch Dan on the feet because Dan has sloppy stand up .. He swings wide haymakers that Silva see’s from 3 weeks in advance.. Silva is also southpaw and it gave Dan problems.

Not to say Hendo isn’t worthy of a title fight or that he isn’t a great fighter, but his conditioning had absolutely nothing to do with the outcome in either fight.. It was styles that played the big difference maker in both of those..

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by MMAuthority on Sep 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice breakdown of the Silva-Hendo fight. Was Henderson really winning that round or was Silva just messing around like he did with Lieites?

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by Bandaka on Sep 2, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

After watching it again, Dan didnt look that good against Bisping. Bisping hit Hendo at will. The difference being that Anderson would KO him where Bisping was out pointing him. Even the way he won, head down, eyes closed… he thought Bisping was 6" to the left, but had in fact circled into it and got a nasty follow through.

Im just not interested in seeing Dan (or anyone else for that matter) fight Anderson at 185… unless a Hendo/Marquart fight happens and is another dominating preformance for one of the two.

Dont get down on Forrest, no one has moves like Anderson Silva.

by ryanwk628 on Sep 2, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw a different fight. I saw a Henderson who knew Bisping had nothing to threaten him with. Occasionally Bisping would pop in for a couple quick jabs,which looked incredibly ineffectual, and then pop out looking nervous. Everytime tDan struck or clinched it was obvious who was getting the better of the two.

And, this is not directed at you, those that complain that all Hendo did was follow Bisping waiting for one big shot. Well, that’s all he had to do. It was apparent from the opening minute that Bisping couldn’t do anything to him and that sooner or later was going to run into his fist.

On a different note, wouldn’t be f-ed up if they decided to match Hendo and Anderson at 205? How pissed do you think those two would be? How pissed would the fans be if they met in a non-title match?

by John Nash on Sep 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He said:

After watching it again, Dan didnt look that good against Bisping. Bisping hit Hendo at will. The difference being that Anderson would KO him where Bisping was out pointing him. Even the way he won, head down, eyes closed… he thought Bisping was 6" to the left, but had in fact circled into it and got a nasty follow through.

You said:

I saw a different fight. I saw a Henderson who knew Bisping had nothing to threaten him with. Occasionally Bisping would pop in for a couple quick jabs,which looked incredibly ineffectual, and then pop out looking nervous. Everytime tDan struck or clinched it was obvious who was getting the better of the two.

Same thing, no? Bisping hit Hendo more, but with no power. Dan, while not accurate, had the power (and an opponent with the worst strategy ever).

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by mythbuster on Sep 2, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen changes in either of their skillsets that make you think that either of them has a chance against Silva? I haven’t/

Oh come on, Jems… You don’t think Hendo’s amazing ‘stalk the guy with your hands down and wait for him to walk into your right fist’ strategy isn’t going to work against Silva?

You’re so negative!

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by mythbuster on Sep 2, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s true – I’m crazy that way.

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by jemaleddin on Sep 3, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stylistically, I think Marquardt versus Henderson would be an awesome fight and would produce a legitimate contender. At 205, I would love to see Hendo fight Chuck (as soon as he is done dancing).

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by Bandaka on Sep 2, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

That fight would be nothing but...

highlight fodder for Hendo. You would find Chuck’s jaw somewhere in the 10th row.

by Screwface on Sep 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dan is right

He’s the only guy who had Silva in trouble at all. He’s the champ, he needs to defend his title. Dan deserves his title fight. I can see him using the same game plan from round 1 of the first fight and avoid the same mistakes that got him submitted.

Not saying he will win or anything, but he deserves to get his rematch.

by cyph on Sep 2, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno – did he really have him in much more “trouble” than Lutter did?

I mean don’t get me wrong, Dan won the first round but covering a guys mouth and shoulder strikes isn’t really “trouble”.

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by The_Gaijin on Sep 2, 2009 1:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He was very close to putting Silva to sleep there…

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Sep 2, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of boredeom.

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by jemaleddin on Sep 2, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Hey ref, wake me up when he actually does something”

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Sep 2, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

How awesome would it be if someone got a tap or put someone to sleep with the mouth smother!?…little things, little minds.

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by The_Gaijin on Sep 2, 2009 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lutter was doing better, it's true.

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by jemaleddin on Sep 2, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s true, it’s true

by bigweeze on Sep 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever the reason, it’s hard to praise Hendo’s performance. It feels like all the people who went around parrotting Joe Rogan (“Henderson has the perfect style, that greco-roman style, to compete with Anderson Silva.”) now hat to continue the farce.

Hendo has no answers for Silva’s striking and can’t finish him on the ground.

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by jemaleddin on Sep 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, he won a round and landed a lot of good strikes. That’s better than others have done, and now that he looks like he is fully adjusted to the weight class, maybe he will be able to get more than one takedown this time around.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adjusted to the weight he was the champ at in PRIDE?

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by jemaleddin on Sep 2, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan himself said his body gave out on him in that fight. Couple that with the fact that he physically looked better than he ever has at 185 vs Bisping, and yeah I think he is more adjusted to that weight.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should send Dan to the Demian Maia school of not making excuses.

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by jemaleddin on Sep 2, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, no argument there. The real question is whether you believe his excuse. If you do the rematch is interesting, if you don’t then it’s not.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, I can’t see him getting past Silva’s striking – he’s too long, too fast, and Dan has never had great footwork or head movement.

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by jemaleddin on Sep 2, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny story about Josh Gross

He was outside the press barrier at the UFC 104 presser yesterday despite MANY open seats in the press section. Dana never forgets.

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by Day Man on Sep 2, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

This mess is exactly why Dana shouldn’t get ahead of himself by saying that whoever happened to do well on a particular night will get a title shot. He should have kept quiet until after the Marquardt fight.

by Patrick79x on Sep 2, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Marquardt and Henderson both should fight each other. I think we need to see who the real guy is at 185 to fight Anderson. Let’s see Anderson fight at 205 against Randy Couture.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Sep 2, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Randy coming off a loss doesn’t really make that a compelling fight to me.

I’d rather see Randy fight Rich Franklin.

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by ihateemo on Sep 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOoh

Or Dan Henderson at 205 if Dana won’t give baby his title shot.

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by ihateemo on Sep 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Imagine if in that pic it was Anderson instead of Bisping? The internetz would explode! lol

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by xFenixKnightx on Sep 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Anderson would have decapitated Henderson. Eyes closed winging overhand rights would have been like candy to Silva.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Sep 2, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Hendo ever look like his eyes are open during a fight?

by Screwface on Sep 2, 2009 3:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hendo vs. Marqardt needs to happen...

There are two choices. We can watch Silva vs. Hendo and Silva vs. Marqardt again, both fights that we have seen before. Or we can watch a new one, Marqardt vs. Hendo, and 1 rematch, winner vs. Silva, which is more interesting because the contender will be the undisputed #1 contender at this point. Silva only has 3 UFC fights left. I don’t want 2 of those fights to be rematches. Let him fight the winner of Marqardt/Hendo and then 2 superfights at HW or LHW

by mburtoni on Sep 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I really wish GSP hadn’t rematched Hughes or Serra either…

by Screwface on Sep 2, 2009 3:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly...

Hughes beat GSP in the first round of their fight, and could have said ‘Fk off I beat this kid easy first time’

If they have earned a rematch, it is part of being the champ to fight the deserving.

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by Well Read Idiot on Sep 3, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

GSP had to fight 5 times to get another shot. Dan shouldn’t have to fight 4?

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by jemaleddin on Sep 3, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is...

Henderson and Marquardt are seen as the ONLY two people in the division that could pose some kind of problem for Silva.

by Screwface on Sep 4, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is just a little shit talk. The man is trying to get a title shot. Its like calling marty mcfly “yellow”. If anything I would say Hendo doesn’t want to fight Marquardt. If Marquardt wants that fight, all he has to do it get into a cage prepared to fight and have someone play Lunatic Fringe. Hendo will show up and the fight will be on.

by szucconi on Sep 2, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

^ This

Hendo is posturing for getting an immediate shot at Silva. If/when push comes to shove and it becomes clear that Anderson’s next fight is at LHW/HW, Hendo will man up like he always does and take the Marquardt fight.

by Steve4192 on Sep 2, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure it's "chicken"

Or “yeller” if you’re thinking of Part 3. :)

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by ihateemo on Sep 2, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was part 3 I was thinking of. I know its a reoccurring thing and I knew chicken was a part of it, but I prefer yellow (yeller).

by szucconi on Sep 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have to agree with Henderson here, they need to give both guys title shots instead of having Anderson Silva jump around doing relatively meaningless fights in other weight classes. Middleweight is thin enough as far as title contenders go having two set up could breath life back into the division. If they arent going to have Silva defend the belt then they may as well have him give it back.

by who me on Sep 2, 2009 1:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Look at it from Silva’s perspective: you have 3 fight left on your contract, two of them will be rematches with guys you destroyed. If you’re the best fighter in UFC you deserve better than that.

by dancingChicken on Sep 2, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

I think that’s what’s going on here. Silva doesn’t want to sign a new contract, and he doesn’t want to waste 2 out of 3 fights on rematches.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t tell me Silva’s contract doesn’t have the Championship Clause in it. As long as he holds that belt his contract automatically renews for 3 more fights.

by drightler on Sep 2, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still, he has said he sees this current contract as his last.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You might see the UFC drag him to court if he decides to try boxing after his contract “ends” if the UFC believes their champ clause will hold water. Anderson has made some money… but not “UFC taking him to court” money. He would probably just come back and drop the belt on purpose if he’s serious about MMA retirement. Let someone get him in an armbar or triangle and tap his way to freedom.

by drightler on Sep 2, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think "might see the UFC take him to court"

would be correct. That would be a certainty, just ask Randy.

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by dnevil001 on Sep 2, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, now that would be funny.

While I don’t want to see Silva go, that would be a super shady thing for the UFC to do. This is much different than the Couture situation, as Silva has done everything the UFC has asked of him, so the UFC trying to control him even after he fulfills his obligations would just be low.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll win in court thanks to the Muhammed Ali Act. That’s why the UFC will do everything they can to keep it out of court.

by John Nash on Sep 2, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why didn’t Randy win? The Muhammed Ali Act only applies to boxing, Mark Cuban already tried this.

by Zack Gobie on Sep 2, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy still had two fights left on his contract.

by John Nash on Sep 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only that, I just didn’t agree with Randy at all. The UFC gives him an immediate title shot after coming out of retirement, so he wins the title and defends it once and says see ya?

He says he wanted more money, but admits he never actually asked the UFC that?

The Silva situation would be very different.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act only applies to boxing. It’s wording is very boxing specific.

by drightler on Sep 2, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes and no. Even though the term "boxer," and “boxing” is used specifically and there is no mention of the word mixed martial artists it would apply. It would be the same as the "Land Sales Act’ which ended up being applicable to condominiums even though there was no mention of that word.

by John Nash on Sep 2, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would take a lot of court time to get it to the point where it would apply. All the way to the Supreme court if the UFC wanted to push it. Anderson doesn’t have the money to fight it that long. This is the American legal system, you don’t have to have the law on your side, only enough money to make your opposition run out.

by drightler on Sep 2, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It might take several months, but I don’t think it would draw out nearly as long as Randy’s would have. This is pretty open and shut. Even Hollywood studios can’t keep actors perpetually locked to a show or series. If someone was willing to spend the time (1/2 a year), and money it could be done. And with a big potential RJJ fight looming Anderson might think it’s worth his while it.

by John Nash on Sep 2, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I think from a money and stress perspective it would be easier for him to just lose the belt.

And it’s not so cut and dry. The Act applies to boxing and MMA isn’t boxing. The wording s not only “boxer” and “boxing”, but specifically cites the Association of Boxing Commissions as well.

The two sports have such different business models that enforcing the Ali act upon MMA might destroy the entire sport. I’m not saying you’re wrong. What I’m saying is in an ideal world you’re correct. In the real world you MAY be correct.

by drightler on Sep 2, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not a perpetual clause it just adds three fights (or one year) to the contract if the fighter holds a belt at the end of the contract, the courts won’t have a problem with that.

by who me on Sep 2, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know about that. See the below post. At the end of the Term a champ gets an Extension Term and anything that applies to Term also applies to Extension Term.

Term (champ) → Extension Term (champ, treat this just like Term) → Extension Term… etc.

I think it’s legally shaky but I’m not a lawyer. :)

by drightler on Sep 2, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No that would never hold up in court and the UFC knows that. The language in the contract is to cover for the fact that it’s the same exact contract during the extension but if they tried to apply the champions clause to a champion clause then you would have a perpetual contract and that would be tossed out on it’s ear. You can’t have a infinite clause.

by who me on Sep 2, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sooner or later an MMA version of Clark Gable will settle this.

by John Nash on Sep 2, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure that Chapionship Clause automatically renews contract for another 3 fights? Cause I don’t think so, but if you’re right UFC champions will end up like Monty Python’s Milkmans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YL0yHohts

by dancingChicken on Sep 2, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmapayout had a comparison of champion clauses up and later took it down, but mmaplayground put up the text. The UFC version says:

"if, at the expiration of the Term, Fighter is then UFC champion, the Term shall be automatically extended for a period commencing on the Termination Date and ending on the earlier of (i) one (1) year from the Termination Date; or (ii) the date on which Fighter has participated in three (3) bouts promoted by ZUFFA following the Termination Date ("Extension Term"). Any references to the Term herein shall be deemed to include a reference to the Extension Term, where applicable."

Now will the contract keep renewing and renewing after 3 fights? Perhaps not since there is a difference noted between “Term” and “Extension Term”. But does anyone know when Silva last singed a NEW contract?

by drightler on Sep 2, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now will the contract keep renewing and renewing after 3 fights? Perhaps not since there is a difference noted between "Term" and "Extension Term".

The way I read it the last sentence is designed to keep the clause popping up over and over as long as the fighter is the UFC champion.

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by Day Man on Sep 2, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the very least its an argument that the UFC would have in court.

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by Day Man on Sep 2, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually missed the last sentence. With that in place I would say from the UFC’s perspective, not necessarily a legal one, that they intend the contract to extend perpetually as long as someone remains the champion. If Anderson would retire from MMA he could box unless there is a no compete clause also in the contract which would limit such activity for a period of time following his retirement.

by drightler on Sep 2, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something very important in there is “where applicable”, that is a legal reference to the fact that the terms of the champions clause term are the same as during the rest of the contract (everything stays the same) not that the contract is an infinite loop as long as a belt is held. An infinite clause would never hold up in court and everyone knows that, this was added in to give the UFC more time to negotiate with a champion in case their contract ran out, the UFC has never had to use it because they always make sure they get guys under new contract before the old deal even gets close to being over.

by who me on Sep 2, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sherdog has an in depth look at the UFC contracts which includes a lot of the language involved: http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Inside-the-Standard-Zuffa-Contract-9734

by who me on Sep 2, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice. Good article.

by drightler on Sep 2, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you plan on discussing tthe topic of UFC contracts very often you should probably bookmark it, they have a ton of good information in there on a lot of the different clauses.

by who me on Sep 2, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could care less about Silva’s perspective I care about the perspective of the sport. If he wants to go fight super-fights at other weight classes then he needs to just give up the belt so it can continue to be defended in the weight class. If he is going to be fighting three more times then at least two of them need to be title defenses or he needs to just let the title go. If your the best fighter in the UFC then you should have more respect for your division and your fellow fighters who are working their asses off to get a title shot.

by who me on Sep 2, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the sport has a poor perspective if fighter labeled as a p4p king has to fight 2 guys who he’d already beaten, and who (especially Hendo) didn’t evolve much since they fought for the first time.
And I don’t see the link between being the best fighter in UFC and having respect for the division. Being the best fighter means that you have to chalange yourself to secure this status, not water it down fighting who’s available…

by dancingChicken on Sep 3, 2009 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nate looks alot like a different animal to me now…

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by Well Read Idiot on Sep 3, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate maybe, Hendo no.

weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.

by mythbuster on Sep 3, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s more agressive, and that’s even better for Silva, he won’t have to wait to KO him.

Nate looked good lately, but to be honest, he didn’t beat creame de la creame of MMA in his last 5 fights. It’s similar to Maia’s situation: he looked good against mid level fighters, but one he faced top level fighter …

With that said, I would like to see Marquardt fight Spider…

by dancingChicken on Sep 3, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he should fight Dan Henderson at 205

Then give him a title shot at 186 if he wins.

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by ihateemo on Sep 2, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Hendo sort of has a point concerning a lack of challengers for Silva if he and Marquardt fight. I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing Nate and Dan lock up, but I see no problem in just letting Dan have his shot now, followed by Nate. I know Silva’s camp is pushing for that #1 contender eliminator match, but I don’t know if Anderson’s really trying not to fight Hendo. I guess from his perspective, all the interesting fights for him now are at 205. He’s already beaten both Dan and Nate.

by Hardcase on Sep 2, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Where does Okami fit into the equation? What about the Sexyama?

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by Bandaka on Sep 2, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Sexyama barely got past Belcher, I would slow down on hyping him to the top.

by Zack Gobie on Sep 2, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are these super interesting fights at 205?

Marquardt is a better opponent than anybody at 205 right now. The big guns like Rashad, Rampage, and Shogun aren’t available right now.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

A guy he already took apart in the first round is a better opponent than ANYONE in the premier UFC division? Really?

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by jemaleddin on Sep 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was talking about Hendo...

But the same applies to Silva. Marquardt is MUCH different fighter than he was 2 years ago.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I'm the best qualified guy to fight Silva...

…out of those who have already had our ass kicked by him."

Hendo vs Silva would sell as many PPVs as Bisping vs McCrory.

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by Ozzz on Sep 2, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The point some are missing here is

Silva isn’t turning down the fight to continue to fight someone else.. He want’s to take time off completely and have them sort out the true #1 contender..

I dont think it’s necessarily a bad idea. Both guys are worthy of the title shot, but again, Silva has finished both opponents.. He did what the UFC asked of him in going up in weight to fight a bigger opponent.. I think he’s earned the right to take some time off and let them settle it.

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by MMAuthority on Sep 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Silva should drop the belt and fight at light heavy or heavy and let Marquardt and Hendo fight for the title.

by darkside3744 on Sep 2, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Dan’s been pissing me off lately.

First he eyepoked his way to an undeserved decision win against Franklin, acted like a tool during and after the Bisping fight and now this…

yeah im sure Anderson’s quaking in his boots, Dan.

I hope Anderson toys around with him and knocks him out silly.

by cauliflower_ears on Sep 2, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The MW division now has a good problem..

Silva cleared it out.. But now you have guys ramping back up in contention with an influx of new talent coming in..

Silva wants to take time off.. Let the top 2 contenders battle it out for the true #1 spot while he rests. It wasn’t a big deal when BJ went to fight GSP and Kenny fought Joe Daddy for the true # 1 contender status instead of letting the division get backed up..

As a fighter that wants to be the best and be the champion, he should have that inner confidence that he can beat everyone below him. So taking on 1 more contender fight with someone that has equal right to that spot shouldn’t matter to him anyways IMO. I mean he feels he’s going to beat the champ. There is a guy with just as much claim to being the number 1 contender. If he won the belt it would be his first fight anyways, right ?? He should look at it as an extra payday and know that he would win that fight regardless and then would have essentially cleared his right at the title..

8-29-09

Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..

by MMAuthority on Sep 2, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

While these are clearly the two most deserving guys to challenge for the title, Hendo should have the edge based on the fact that he at least showed an ability to be competitive, if only for a round, during their first fights with Anderson. That being said, I’d much rather see Silva vacate the belt and focus exclusively on blockbuster fights at 205 until Machida eventually loses the strap (assuming that happens before Silva retires).

by Velcro on Sep 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think Hendo has a chance - period

He did nothing to Silva even when Sivla let him have a round. He has as much chance against Sivlva as Forrest did. Since his beating he’s been the same Ultimate 1-punch Boxer he’s always been.

Nate on the other hand has shown a marked improvement in striking and footwork.

by asa on Sep 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing wrong with Hendo trying to secure a big fight for himself.

Who deserves it more is certainly up for debate. Marquardt just gave Maia his first defeat. Whereas Dan rid the MMA world of the shockingly bird-brained UK hype and those sycophantic fight fans from across the pond.

Both accomplishments are deserving of praise. However, what Dan did stands as a victory for the human race. Give the man his rematch.

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by a tommy point on Sep 2, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

lol

Plus I’m not sure Dan can beat Nate, so this may be the only option available for getting at Silva.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

verdad

But Dan vs. Nate is more intriguing to me than either vs. Silva. They matchup stylistically very well

by Austin Martin on Sep 2, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about Vitor vs Dan and Okami vs Nate. That way we get rid of all the challengers in 2 of Silva’s last three fights (one of which can be a big pay day LHW fight).

by John Nash on Sep 2, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it not dawn on anyone that

Silva may be resting and waiting it out until he knows for sure if Machida retains the title against Shogun ??

If Shogun wins the title, I wouldn’t be shocked to learn shortly there after that Silva is going to challenge for the 205 lbs title and to avenge the loss of his friend.. Making Silva possibly the first person to hold 2 belts simultaneously in the UFC..

I have a strange feeling that’s what the wait is for.. That’s why he was so hesitant to jump right back in the 185 picture… There is a bigger fight and more money on the line in Silva fighting for the 205 belt in a super fight like that.. Rematches is what he’s looking at least case scenario IMO..

8-29-09

Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..

by MMAuthority on Sep 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Thats an interesting thought, but i feel like Silva wouldnt think that way, because he wants Lyoto to succeed

by Austin Martin on Sep 2, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, still I think Silva would immediately challenge anybody that beat Lyoto.

by Razzel on Sep 2, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the guy

but he seems a little slow for making these kinds of comments, did that choke cause him some brain damage. Yes Dan has some weapons, but his chances are no better now then the first time they met.

Dan tell yourself what ever you have to to help you sleep at night I guess.

by proflex on Sep 2, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't see enough......

Improvements in Dan that would tell me a rematch would have an different result. And if he says he has improved and is in better shape than the last time, we could certainly say the same for Anderson.

by PaddyRite on Sep 3, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

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