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Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: Gray Maynard's Kimura + Head Scissors on Roger Huerta at UFN 19

Gray Maynard locks on a kimura and a head scissors on Roger Huerta at UFN 19.

Wednesday night's UFC lightweight bout between Gray Maynard vs Roger Huerta was a vintage three round war between two top contenders in one of the most stacked divisions in all of MMA. And yet, judging by the fan response here on BloodyElbow, it's not being appreciated for the great fight it was.

A lot of this is due to the fact that neither fighter is currently a fan favorite. Roger Huerta has burned up most of his goodwill with the fans by refusing to resign with the UFC, ostensibly because he is leaving fighting behind for an acting career (we'll see if he signs with a major movie studio or Bellator FC first).

His opponent, Gray Maynard is saddled with an undeserved reputation for being a lay and pray artist. Yes, he does have an excellent wrestling pedigree and yes he has used positional dominance to grind out a few wins. But Maynard showed at UFN 19 that he is well on his way to becoming an accomplished mixed martial artist who is mastering the different phases of the game.

First off, he consistently beat Roger Huerta to the punch, landing hard straight rights. It's true that Huerta was able to often get the advantage in longer exchanges in the first round, but in the second and third he adjusted his footwork and begun to clearly get the better of Huerta on the feet.

More impressive to me was the kimura he locked on to Huerta in the third round. Maynard didn't get the tap but that's because Roger Huerta is a tough, tough man who doesn't know when to quit.

What's more, Maynard wound up in a position more often seen in old catch-wrestling bouts than in jiu jitsu matches by catching Huerta in a head-scissors with his legs.

Here's some background on the Kimura:

Kimura (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu), chicken wing/double wristlock (wrestling), or reverse keylock are terms used to specify a medial keylock known in judo as gyaku ude-garami (reverse arm entanglement) or simply as ude-garami. The application is similar to the americana, except that it is reversed. It needs some space behind the opponent to be effective, and can be applied from the side control or guard. Contrary to the americana, the opponent's wrist is grabbed with the hand on the same side, and the opposite arm is put on the back side the opponent's arm, and again grabbing the attacker's wrist and forming a figure-four. By controlling the opponent's body and cranking the arm away from the attacker, pressure is put on the shoulder joint, and depending on the angle, also the elbow joint (in some variations the opponent's arm is brought behind their back, resulting in a finishing position resembling that of the hammerlock outlined below). The kimura was named after the judoka Masahiko Kimura, who used it to defeat one of the founders of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Hélio Gracie.

We'll get into the details of how Maynard locked the hold on and how Huerta escaped in the full entry, with lots of animated gifs.

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The gif on the right starts with 1:54 left in the third and final round. Maynard and Huerta are in a scramble that quickly resolves into Maynard in Huerta's half-guard and applying the kimura. At the beginning of the sequence, Maynard has grabbed Huerta's right wrist with his left hand. Then he takes his right hand and grabs his own left wrist. From there he cranks Huerta's arm behind his back. That's where the old catch-wrestling name "double wristlock" comes from.

Maynard-2_mediumOn the left we see Maynard take the crucial step of stepping his right leg over Huerta's head. This gives Maynard control over Huerta's body and allows him to really crank on the shoulder. Check out this photograph of Kimura breaking Gracie's shoulder. That step-over is a crucial part of getting the leverage needed to crank the hold. Note how Maynard immediately torques Huerta's arm even further back as soon as he steps over.

Here's Kimura talking about applying the hold that now bears his name on Helio Gracie, from Wikipedia:

I grabbed his left wrist with my right hand, and twisted up his arm. I applied Udegarami. I thought he would surrender immediately. But Helio would not tap the mat. I had no choice but keep on twisting the arm. The stadium became quiet. The bone of his arm was coming close to the breaking point. Finally, the sound of bone breaking echoed throughout the stadium. Helio still did not surrender. His left arm was already powerless. Under this rule, I had no choice but twist the arm again. There was plenty of time left. I twisted the left arm again. Another bone was broken. Helio still did not tap. When I tried to twist the arm once more, a white towel was thrown in. I won by TKO. My hand was raised high. Japanese Brazilians rushed into the ring and tossed me up in the air. On the other hand, Helio let his left arm hang and looked very sad withstanding the pain."

Maynard-3_mediumNow on the right we see Maynard add his own special twist. He's got his right leg wrapped around Huerta's head and he hooks his right foot into the back of his left knee to get a figure four lock and trap Huerta in a head scissors. This is the kind of move that you read about being pulled by famous catch-wrestlers like Clarence Eklund back in the early 1900's.

I actually think that Maynard had already made a positional error by turning so far onto his left side. If you look at the image of Kimura applying the hold, he is posted up on the thigh opposite to the step over leg. This anchors him and lets him torque the hold.

Maynard-4_mediumBut when you look at the gif on the left it's really impossible to say that Maynard made any errors whatsoever. Huerta's shoulder is visibly twisted like a ghastly pretzel. Maynard talked about what he was hearing just then:

"I had it in deep," Maynard said. "I heard his arm popping. I said to the referee ‘Holy [expletive], do you hear that?’ I thought it was going to break. I’m glad it didn’t break and that’s a good ref [Dan Miragliotta] in there, he made the right call [letting the match continue]."

In another interview, Maynard talked about what he might have done differently:

I heard (his shoulder) pop a couple of times, I was like ‘Hey it's poppin'.' I guess I could have tweaked it a little harder but he did a good job. He's a tough kid, a warrior.

Maynard-5_mediumOn the right we see El Matador's near-miraculous escape. He capitalizes on Maynard's unanchored position to roll "the Bully" onto his back. And despite the headscissors that Maynard is using to maintain relative control of Huerta's position, once Gray is on his back, Roger is able to step around into the north-south position and relieve the horrible pressure on his shoulder.

This is the epitome of mixed martial arts, a life-and-death battle for control and dominance, testing one man's ability to apply leverage to inflict pain against another man's ability to withstand pain until he can escape.

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Totally tits. Thanks for the write up – especially Kimura’s first-person account. I never read that before.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Sep 18, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

thanks

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he means well-proportioned perky type. Because anything else ain’t much to scream about.

by Dooda on Sep 18, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank You Nate

So many people overlooked this fight and tried to say that Maynard blanketed Huerta. He had gone for like, one takedown before the 3rd roud. I really appreciated Maynard’s foot work in that fight, because there were multiple occasions where Huerta would rush in and trip up over himself when he was swinging at the air.

So on behalf of all the people who aren’t ignorant and biased when it comes to this fight, thank you Kid Nate.

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Sep 18, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks

it really bugs me when fans don’t respect what the fighters are bringing.
when someone shows improvement in fight after fight the way Maynard has done he doesn’t deserve the blanket rap.
Now Tyson Griffin and Clay Guida, those guys need to step it up. Clay is still a dump and humper and Tyson is the epitome of bad kickboxing with good sprawls.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

great article

it is interesting how this fight has been overlooked. i’m guilty as charged… until now when you force me to think about it.

i guess there are a few factors in play. the condit/ellenberger and quarry/credeur fights were so wild, that it’s almost like all the viewers already dumped all their adrenaline. add to that a distracting storyline about “what’s huerta gonna do next” …. and i guess this was a recipe for unfairly not focusing on the merits of the actual fight.

by GregS123 on Sep 18, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

"all the viewers already dumped all their adrenaline"

So true. Much like fighters experience an adrenaline dump in a fight, I have noticed that I experience similar effects when watching a really great card.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true

it was hard to stay “up” for that whole card. Literally every fight was a back and forth war. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen that before.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right on man.

I was literally exhausted at the end of this card. Much like I was after UT defeated USC for the natnl championship. I felt like I had actually played.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a freaking awesome card

I wasn’t bored once. The Condit/Ellenberger fight was awesome. Gray looked really good on his feet.

And the main event was great…until Guillard caught a case of stupid.

btw…awesome right up Nate.

by Captain7 on Sep 18, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

This sounds incredibly lame, but I had that same adrenaline dump expirence watching the newest Rambo movie in IMAX. Like this card, I was expecting to walk away satisfied and instead I got pure excitement from beginning to end to the point where I was actually tired after viewing it.

by Zack Gobie on Sep 18, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol rambo does kill about 1,200 people in that movie

by GregS123 on Sep 18, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap, i was out of my seat when i saw how deep that kimura was. Huerta’s skills may have some questioning, but he has incredible heart. great to see Maynard looking for the finish.

by pop_gun_war on Sep 18, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I hurt just looking at it. What a tough dude.

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by woomikee on Sep 18, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta say that maynard did what i said he tended not to do which is clearly go for a fight ending move

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by theworldsoldestsport on Sep 18, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

"And yet, judging by the fan response here on BloodyElbow, it's not being appreciated for the great fight it was"

Good writeup Nate, but I loved this fight until the final rd. The kimura Gray landed was fantastic & I still cannot believe that Huerta did not tap, but barring that there was little to no action in that rd. For me & this is just my preference, Gray was given too much time after taking Huerta down without doing anything. There was one takedown where Gray just pulled Huertas legs under & held them without doing anything at all for a good 30 seconds. That is where fighters like Maynard, Guida & Griffin lose me. The kimura attempt does show that Gray is working bjj & that is great, but I just hated to see what was a great 2 rds of absolute war shut down in the final rd. And I know that wrestling is a HUGE part of MMA, but I am only speaking as a fan & in my opinion.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Man i missed this fight...

does anyone know when they are going to re-air it? on spike? (i was with a girl…she doesnt like MMA so she was like either fuck me or watch the fight…..i missed the fight.)

by 1WAYtiket on Sep 18, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure,

but you need to wk on the the girl thing man. I was also with a girl but made her wait until the fights were over. Gotta keep your pimphand strong my man, lol.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know man

but the thing is the girl was married and she had to go …so i was like damn…i did watch the first fight. but missed Condit’s and Huertas

by 1WAYtiket on Sep 18, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they typically

re-air fights in like a wk or two. Maybe Nate can tell you when.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone agree with me?

If Chung becomes a semi well known actor on the big screen it would benefit SF and they could get a bigger draw on CBS? i mean he is in a movie with…whats his face..Bill Paxton?

by 1WAYtiket on Sep 18, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

who the hell is Chung??

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by funnytiger on Sep 18, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know who Cung Le is...

NEVER heard anyone refer to him as ‘Chung’.

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by funnytiger on Sep 18, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

All good.

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by funnytiger on Sep 18, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn! this kind of conversation is the last thing i expect to see on an MMA forum

by CC11 on Sep 18, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

the one between u and dnevil001 about the girl ….

by CC11 on Sep 18, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol,

well I was just responding to his question but figured I would throw my two cents in anyway.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

man trust me the chick was worth it.

i love married woman, they put it down like prep school champs. lol

by 1WAYtiket on Sep 18, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying you were wrong at all,

but you need to record it next time if that is the scenario. Or be able to multitask!! That is the way to roll.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at

So you’re fine watching that Maynard head scissors when banging a hot chick???

Sounds like you have a little bit of thinking to do.

In the mean time, google the word torrent and see if that helps.

by fuzzy wuzzy on Sep 19, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good writeup Nate, but I loved this fight until the final rd. The kimura Gray landed was fantastic & I still cannot believe that Huerta did not tap, but barring that there was little to no action in that rd

Man, I’ll take “little to no action” in a round if it means getting an edge-of-your-seat moment like that.

by JRN on Sep 18, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

/\ this

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's some truth to that

but there are more facets to the game than the stand up and it’s totally within the spirit of the sport for a fighter to use his advantages in one of the phases of the game to impose his will.
It’s a fight and anyway to win within the rules is kopacetic.
It’s more frustrating to me when a fighter like Jorge Gurgel or Sean Sherk refuses to capitalize on his advantages on the ground because he’s trying to be all “Fight of the Night” baby.
To me the beauty of MMA is answering the question, “what’s the best way to win a fight?” and if there is pressure to not fight on the ground we might as well just watch kickboxing.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess my main point

is that for me & my friends (who have watched MMA for 10 years) we can appreciate a great sub or sub attempts, great wrestling that leads to vicious GNP or great striking that either leads to a KO or a war. It is just hard for those of us who have never wrestled before to really know exactly what is going on when we see someone like Guida holding down their opponent for 3 rds while mixing in tiny bits of GNP.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

understood

and I agree, I just don’t remember that happening in this fight.
Maynard nearly tore the arm out of the socket. that’s enough action for one round for me.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is true that Maynard nearly tore Huerta's arm off.

But compared to the rest of the fight I was let down. Whether Huerta leaves or comes back or Maynard gets a title shot, I was just looking forward to the pace they kept in the first 2 rds.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haters gotta hate,

Lovers wanna love,
I don’t even want,
None of the above,
I want to piss on you.
Yes I do, I’ll piss on you,
I pee on you.

Seriously man, next time there’s an MMA card on, just put Don Frye Vs. Yoshihiro Takayama on infinite loop instead:

Thanks for your understanding.

by fuzzy wuzzy on Sep 19, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the noobes who haven't seen it:

youtube.com/watch?v=J-AkC8l-8Xc&feature=player_embedded

by fuzzy wuzzy on Sep 19, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, building on Rome’s article about UFC salary reform, it is fair to also recognize the huge disparity between the base pay for many of these fighters, and the potential pay if you get a fight of the night bonus.

10 and 10 for winning “my way” … or 10 and 50 for losing in a “fight of the night” way? a lot of these guys know in their heart they probably aren’t championship material even though they are competitive fighters.

so, for the purity of the sport, i agree with you that it’s frustrating to see the “Gurgel Mentality”. but from a practical point of view for many of these fighters, the event bonuses have become so huge that it’s hard to blame them…

by GregS123 on Sep 18, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i understand that

and really don’t like it.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree fully, Sherk has T rex amrs and no power yet he feels he should box guys like BJ and Edgar. One of my favorite fights of all time was between Clay Guida and Tyson griffin at ufc 72. Well Gurgel’s fights speak for themselves. Nice write up and awesome comment

by Riley_96 on Sep 18, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

So in the third round he used positional dominance to lock in a deep submission and then worked his position in an attempt to secure the position in order to finish the fight and was foiled only by Huerta’s bravery/stupidity?

What a wet blanket!

by Shaun32887 on Sep 18, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

You and Nate seem to be missing the point entirely.

Gray is a wrestler. He won a decision. Therefore, he won by lay and pray. QED.

I don’t know how you can call someone a blanket when he almost rips someone’s arm off on the ground.

by Phildo on Sep 18, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was supposed to be sarcastic, sorry if that didn’t come across.

I need to stop posting as soon as I roll out of bed, the posts are never coherent

by Shaun32887 on Sep 18, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was trying to outsarcasm you.

by Phildo on Sep 18, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then apparently I;m not any sharper at 4 in the afternoon.

by Shaun32887 on Sep 19, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even tho he lost...

I still will root for Roger everytime he fights!!!

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by ANance on Sep 18, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, I hope you enjoyed this one

’cause you may never see it again

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by woomikee on Sep 18, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

doubt that...

just cuz he may be done for now doesnt mean he is done forever

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by ANance on Sep 18, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I watched this, I had this look of stupefaction on my face. I just couldn’t believe Huerta wasn’t tapping. I was expecting something to break at any moment. My girlfriend couldn’t watch and had to look away. Say what you want about the guy for not resigning, but he is one tough SOB.

As for Maynard, yeah, I really didn’t care two shits for the guy up until the Jim Miller fight where he lit him up with some nice combos. I think Maynard is stringing together the right combination of skills to go with his wrestling. He’s not like Sherk who shuns everything to just stand and bang to the detriment of his career just cause he’s insecure about fans thinking he’s boring (there’s nothing worse than a try-hard, IMO). Maynard, especially with that kimura / head scissors attempt, is really showing he’s becoming a true mixed martial artist. If he can start finishing people more, he could be really great!

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by pud333 on Sep 18, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

to be fair that fight would have probably been finished if it was any other fighter caught in that spot. Very few would hang on there, most would hear popping and tap

by Riley_96 on Sep 18, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotch Lock FTW!

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by RoyalB on Sep 18, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

This was a pretty good tilt anyway, but this little sequence really made the fight. I’m kind of sad that Rogan wasn’t doing commentary, he would’ve been losing his shit at the sight of Huerta’s shoulder blade popping out of his back.

Thanks, as always, for the breakdown, Nate.

by kid_eh on Sep 18, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

great stuff as usual, Nate

I love Huerta’s heart here, that’s one tuff sumbitch.

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by Anthony Pace on Sep 18, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Really don’t have anything to add other than that Maynard doing a head scissors is what eventually caused Huerta’s escape. Maynard would have been better served by just maintaining that leg on the back of the neck and using the other leg to keep Huerta pressed down.

Awesome write up!

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by Patrick Tenney on Sep 18, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I almost said that

but on rewatching it’s hard to argue that he had the hold completely locked in. That would have gotten the tap in 90% of fights.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whether Huerta ever steps into the cage or ring again or not is irrelevant. The man does not have an ounce of quit in his body. Everyone and his uncle would have tapped, but not Huerta. Talk about pain threshold being off every scale known to man.

I felt sick watching Hughes sink a kimura on Gracie and that was nothing compared to what Maynard did to Huerta.

by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Sep 18, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Gracie would have never tapped, either.

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by IHateMMA on Sep 18, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

art jimmerson definitely wouldn’t tap to that weak shit

by GregS123 on Sep 18, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice write up.

I don’t (and can’t) study BJJ or MMA myself so I look to stuff like this to explain the minor details of the ground stuff.

Showtime and CBS should take note that it is possible to explain this stuff while the fighters have skin.

by Phildo on Sep 18, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I was

thoroughly entertained by that fight. I also think it’d be cool to do a judo chop on Gray’s repeated transition from back control to the double leg, which is the takedown he used most often in the 3’rd round.

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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 18, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I was surprised to see him go from standing back control to the double leg, but he effortlessly got it every time with the pass into side control included .

by jafotinatos on Sep 18, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a good suggestion

probably won’t get to it with this fight. But Matt Lindland diagrammed several ways to make that transition in his excellent new book so I’m intrigued.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

They teach that transition

from the double leg to back control, and vice versa, alot at Xtreme Couture. I prefer the back control more for takedowns (especially since I have more of a Judo/ BJJ background), but as a wrestler it’s understandable why Maynard prefers the double leg.

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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 18, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lindland really emphasizes

how critical it is to be able to segue back and forth between different control positions in his book. That’s one of the things that most impressed me about it.
It’s too bad no one likes Matt Lindland because he knows his wrestling and how to apply to MMA and people could really benefit from studying his system.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it isn't that surprizing

considering that Lindland and Randy were both part of the original Team Quest, and both have sick Greco skills. The Team Quest style of MMA wrestling is very efficient, and I agree completely- some people just don’t like Lindland because they think he’s boring, but I think that he’s inarguably one of the elite MW’s of MMA. It’s just that his striking leaves a lot to be desired, and his chin is subpar for an elite fighter.

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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 18, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greco forbids attacks below the waist.

But now I’m just being nit-picky.

by fuzzy wuzzy on Sep 19, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to admit to being one of those who previously considered Maynard a one-dimensional “lay and pray” type fighter, but he has really won me over with his last two fights.

by brad23 on Sep 18, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

“I’m glad I didn’t break it” – That might be my favorite part of this post.

by CliChe Guevara on Sep 18, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Good stuff, Mr. Kid.

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by IHateMMA on Sep 18, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice article.

I agree, there are a lot of casual fans out there that I hear making comments insinuating that some of the more technical fights are “boring”. I thought this was a good card because it proved to be good matchups and a overall great fight night with the ratings from TUF as well. I also like the fact you included a little martial arts history about the origins of the name for the kimura. You can even watch some of those old school matches from back in the day. The people who understand mixed martial arts appreciate it though!

by Fairtex,AZ on Sep 18, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Injury?

Have there been any reports on whether or not Roger injured anything in his shoulder? I’m assuming something must have happened if Gray could hear it popping.

by Propst01 on Sep 18, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I've been looking for that as well

I am beginning to wonder if OK has much of an athletic commission as there’s been no report of suspensions for injury post event.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

But would OK athletic comm report

anything if there is nothing else scheduled there upcoming?

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by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

they should

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by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

So are the head scissors

just a control move or can you transition to a submission?

by fuzzy wuzzy on Sep 19, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions  

you can probably do some kind of neck crank

but it’s really hard to do any kind of blood choke unless you’ve also got one of their shoulders to help you.

by loboplata on Sep 19, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also compared to the sloppy Quarry fight this was a clean and technical fight on the feet too.

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by Benicio on Sep 19, 2009 5:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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