Jon Madsen of TUF 10 Talks Wrestling Lesnar and More

by Steven T. Kelliher on Sep 17, 2009 9:29 AM EDT Comment 26 comments

TUF 10's Jon Madsen recently sat down with Scott Dryden of ProFighting-fans to discuss his wrestling background, competing against Brock Lesnar at a 40lb weight deficit, and improving his skills while in The Ultimate Fighter house.

SD- You also competed against the UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar, talk about that experience.

JM- When I wrestled Brock it was my first tournament of my college career. He actually wrestled against my older brother the match before me. I got the winner. Brock shot in and picked my brother up, slammed him down and broke his back. My brother had to drop out of the tournament and I believe he didn’t wrestle anymore for the rest of the year. I was looking at him thinking I cannot let that happen to me. I just went in and wrestled as hard as I could. He ended up beating me 7-3, 7-4 or something like that. He was by far the strongest person I have ever competed against.

SD- What did Brock weigh for the match?

JM- He was 270 and I was around 230.

SD- That is a tough size advantage to overcome...

JM- Yeah and he is very athletic too. He is a big guy that moves like a little guy which makes it tough.

Madsen's account here echoes an earlier comment made to Yahoo! Sports about nearly getting into a fight with Lesnar over what happened with his brother. While Madsen is not clear about what took place in that article, here we can clearly see that Lesnar breaking his brother's back was probably the catalyst for any sort of confrontation that might have occured.

Madsen goes on to discuss the standard fare of the TUF tryout process as well as training while in the house.

SD- Talk about the interview and try-out process for The Ultimate Fighter and how you felt coming into that.

JM- I was pretty confident going into the try-outs. I knew they were aware that I wrestled Lesnar and all that which wasn’t going to hurt me. Also having Matt Hughes gym behind me and Coach Mark Fiore supporting me definitely gave me an edge. I went in and did really well in the grappling and on the pads. I did fairly well on the interview portion. I didn’t want to be too boastful or arrogant I just tried to be myself. I figured they would take it for what it is and they must have liked me as they called me back.

SD- I know you cannot go into many details but at a high level talk about the experience and if you feel your game has improved from your time in the house.

JM- Actually when you are in the house you are not there to improve your game but sharpen what you already have. It is too short of a time to add things to what you are already trying to do. You take your strengths and weaknesses and try to sharpen them. From the time I started a year and a half ago to today, it’s not even a comparison. My hands are a lot better from my 1st fight until now. I can tell that from sparring sessions when news guys come in. Now I’m peppering them with shots etc, no way I would have been doing that when I first got here. In the house you cannot help but get in better shape and you have constant training partners. That is the nice thing about the house; you work out twice a day and you have seven other big guys in there with you that are dedicated and are there for the same reason. They are driven and you know they are not going to miss a workout. It is very motivating.

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Madsen definitely showed the difference

having real skill in one of the key phases of the game makes when you’re up against a guy who doesn’t stand out in any one aspect and can’t stop a shoot.

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by Kid Nate on Sep 17, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Plus i gotta respect a guy that is smart enough to stick to a gameplan. The plan was clearly keep taking him down and keep peppering away with strikes from the top.

by Rabbit915 on Sep 17, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someone on here last wk was saying

that Madsen had defeated Lesnar in collegiate wrestling. I was having trouble believing that then & now that turns out not to be true.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

After watching his fight last night..

I can’t wait to see him get his ass kicked. Using the touch of gloves to get a takedown against a guy who’s clearly already at a disadvantage? He has no class, and I hope he gets brutally KO’d.

by Razzel on Sep 17, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

I think he was just a little wound up. We’ll have to see what happens in the future.

"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock

by BadB on Sep 17, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, either way though it’s dirty, and I hope somebody puts him in his place. SOON!!

by Razzel on Sep 17, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dirty, but legal. Protect yourself at all times.

"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock

by BadB on Sep 17, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think legal precludes dirty.

It wasn’t dirty, because it was legal.

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by Llewdor on Sep 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He probably wasn't trying for a dirty move. He was fired up and went for the shoot as soon as the round started.

He touched gloves and then shot in a moment later. What was he supposed to do? Ask Abe if he was ready, first?

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by Llewdor on Sep 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unless I didn’t see it right, he held out his arm for the touch and shot in as abe went to touch gloves so in my opinion that’s pretty cheap.

by Clarity on Sep 18, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually now that I think about it was definetly planned. Before the fight Abe wanted to touch gloves from across the octagon and he refused. He knew if he held out his hand in the 2nd Abe would go to touch gloves.

by Clarity on Sep 18, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What’s wrong with that?

by Tedd Welch on Sep 18, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sportsmanship

by bigweeze on Sep 18, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good thing there’s no rule regarding sportsmanship.

"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock

by BadB on Sep 18, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, good thing.

Great outlook to have on life.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Was he going to progress on the show by circling out, or by shooting for a takedown?

The ref says “defend yourself at all times” for a reason: the unified rules don’t list a time limit for attacks after a glove touch, and sometimes, a man who is in a fight with another man elects to start fighting.

by Tedd Welch on Sep 19, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t say it was a foul. He can do something like that if he wants, most people wouldn’t.

Would you give up your seat on a bus for a pregnant woman? There’s nothing written in the law that forces you to.

by bigweeze on Sep 19, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, as long as we can agree it’s not a foul :)

by Tedd Welch on Sep 19, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually thought it was smart.

I mean, if you already have wrist control, then why the hell shouldn’t he arm drag him and shoot a double? The fight starts when the bell rings, and that’s why the whole ‘If you want to touch gloves, do so now" phrase is so pivotal. Personally, it’s not a gamble i’d be willing to take if I was in a fight

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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 17, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whatever you say man.

That was weak & every time someone does horseshit like that it is weak. There are things that I like to refer to as “ethics” in life, that while legal, you just do not do because you know it is not right. If I was an MMA fighter I would never touch gloves with anyone ever again with the recent rash of this crap breaking out. There was a dude last wk that clocked his opponent the second their gloves touched & ended up getting the TKO. Were you not pissed when Manny Gam highkicked whoever that was when he tried to touch?

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Thank you!

I was screaming at the TV & then wrote about that on BE afterwards.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the worst part was that the guy he was fighting survived one of the bloodiest beatings I’ve seen and answered the bell in the next round despite having a three quarter inch gash in his head and thats when he decides he needs the advantage of shooting off the tap?

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by Day Man on Sep 19, 2009 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs