The Ultimate Fighter 10: Rashad's Team Is Stacked
by Nick Thomas on Sep 16, 2009 11:57 PM EDT
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PrintHere are your teams for The Ultimate Fighter 10: Heavyweights:
Rashad Rampage
James McSweeney Kimbo Slice
Brendan Schaub Abe Wagner
Justin Wren Demico Rogers 
Jon Madsen Wes Sims 
Roy Nelson Scott Junk
Darrill Schoonover Wes Shivers 
Matt Mitrione Marcus Jones
Mike Wessel Zak Jensen
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not picking Big Country in the top 3 is criminal
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by thetakeover on Sep 16, 2009 11:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Big Country doesn't mind.
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Didn’t they say they had him ranked 6th?
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by Richard Wade on Sep 17, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Looked to me like he wasn’t sparring well at all with Rampage watching, but maybe that was intentional. Maybe he knew Rampage is the weaker coach and didn’t want to be on his team. Considering that Rampage didn’t even know who he is, I’m sure he knew he was better off on Greg Jackson’s side.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Sep 17, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny wasn't it
Rampage sure doesn’t pay much attention to MMA for a top 10 LHW. That guy isn’t the sharpest knife in the dishwasher…
Don't quote me on this...
but I think I have heard quite a few MMA guys say they don’t really pay attention to MMA. I thought it was weird, but I have read of other pro athletes not following their own sport.
Doesn’t change the fact that Rampage is a shit coach who harasses women reporters.
BOOSH
I wonder by Rampage’s picks if he really cares if his team wins or not. Evans is obviously taking this very seriously, but I question if Rampage takes this seriously as well. With Sims and Kimbo alone, Rampage definitely has a team full of interesting personalities.
I like Rampage, but with how this is about to turn out and him choosing the A-Team thing… I have a feeling his career in the UFC is coming to an end. He’s just all over the place mentally…
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by Mark The Ezequiel Figula on Sep 17, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Rampage is by far the worst coach ever, worse than Ken Shamrock. He is so unprofessional and seems to hate other black fighters (IMO)
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Sep 17, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Umm, he loves Kimbo & he is pretty
much black as far as I know. So…….?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
he only likes Kimbo because of his celebrity status for lack of a better word, if you look back to past videos posted and what nots you’ll see that he doesn’t like other black fighters or he just doesn’t respect them I don’t know what else to think but I know he didn’t act that way towards Chuck or Forrest
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Sep 17, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
From Rampage's twitter
I feel so bad for Forrest. I don’t even want a rematch anymore. LOSER!! http://twitpic.com/d8tn2
9:04 PM Aug 8th from Twitterrific
I’m in Hollywood minding my own business & I look over.. & I see Forrest… he’s still running!
12:24 PM Aug 11th from web
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Sep 17, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
For lack of a better term, I think he’s just a dick in general. Remember the repeated “titties” comments.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Sep 17, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
"I know he didn’t act that way towards Chuck or Forrest"
You really cant be serious with this stmt. Rampage nonstop bashed on both Chuck & Forrest. Do you seriously think he just doesnt like black fighters or maybe the ones that he has been around are douchebags & assholes & that is why he does not like them. And to say that he doesnt clown Chuck or Forrest is pretty silly considering there are tons of video of him doing exactly that.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
wow
It’s like Rashad got to make 8 picks and then Rampage went. And as Abe learned, being on the team of the weaker coach can really hurt your chances.
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if he cares about Kimbo why did he tell him he didn’t have to do anything?
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by lovingmma25 on Sep 17, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He told him not to worry about trying out hard
cuz he already wanted to pick him. Did you watch the show at all?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
I watched it but I didn’t think it was ok for Rampage to tell him he didn’t have to anything – Kimbo is there to prove himself
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Sep 17, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts were that it didnt matter cuz he
was picking him anyway & we all know that Rashad wasnt picking him so he told him dont worry about it. Whats the big deal? We talkin bout practice man!
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
In all honesty..
Rashad had every intention of picking up his 2 guys from his camp first.. So when Kimbo walked in he was ok with sacrificing Kimbo to get his first pick that he wanted.. I would be willing to bet that he would have picked Kimbo 3rd or 4th if Page hadn’t jumped on him so early..
Page doesn’t follow fighters outside of LHW & personal friends. He has said as much in multiple interviews.. He is honestly a horrible coach.. Again some guys can be good athletes but terrible teachers.. But we also have to take into consideration that this is a scripted for TV show. Producers and writers have most of it mapped out and then the video editors swing it in the way they want you to view it..
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Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Sep 17, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
After watching Rashad pick
every single wrestler in the group you really think he had any intention of taking Kimbo? Much less with the 3rd or 4th pick.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Sure..
Kimbo is not a complete scrub.. He’s got a decent base and good power.. He has picked up a few things over the past couple of months prior to the taping of the show.. The one thing many people have said about him since the show was how impressed they were with him & his ability.. He obviously surpassed expectations for many people. It doesn’t mean he made it through to the end, but I think it’s safe to say he did better than expected..
We also know that he only had to win his first fight to secure his contract with the UFC. Everything after that is just incentive bonuses to perk the contract numbers up. He obviously wins at some point in the show because it’s been leaked that he secured his 4 fight deal.
Greg Jackson would have taken him all the same.. He has a lot of potential. He just needs the right coaches and camp to put it all together and keep his head in the game..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Sep 17, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
But this is a very short camp & the
coaches have multiple fighters to train. I dont Greg Jackson was too keen on completely retooling Kimbo, which is what he would need to do make him a threat against a wrestler.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
I guess we’ll see.. :)
Kimbo is a lot further down the progression pole than you might think.. He wasn’t home sitting on his ass the last 15-16 months.. He’s been to all kinds of camps training.. prior to his appearance on the show.. His management knew the offer on the table and turned down big money in Japan to go there. They knew he needed some intense training before going on the show, to be successful. It wasn’t just a off the cuff thing for him to appear on the show and make a run for a UFC contract. This was all calculated prior to him ever even making the decision to go..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Sep 17, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the big deal is that no one else was told you don’t have to do anything for the coaches evals – come on now you think it’s okay that Rampage gave Kimbo special treatment – Kimbo is coming in having to prove himself to Dana White because of his special treatment in the past
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
But how was that Kimbo’s fault ?? He didn’t ask for any special treatment. He went through the Evals just like every other contestant , even though he was told he didn’t have to for Page.
He’s there, that in of itself is proof enough that he is trying to prove himself IMO.. He turned down big money in Japan to go on the show.
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
I never said it was Kimbo’s fault, I am saying that I disagree with Rampage telling Kimbo that he didn’t have to do anything for the evals. So yeah, Rampage tells Kimbo he is going to pick him and he doesn’t have to do anything right in front of the other guys – that is unprofessional (not like Rampage is professional to begin with) and what does that tell the other fighters that will be picked for his team? It tells them that he is going to be focused on Kimbo alone and not his team as a whole.
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
They might wanna go ahead and match Kimbo up with Mitrione or Wessel
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 16, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions
I hope no one really expected Rampage to pick intelligently.
"The harder you flash, the harder you get flashed on" - Mos Def
he was a bad coach on season 7 too
but at least that time he picked good fighters
If i was Rampage i would have pickes Schaub to piss Rashad off then Kimbo if he wanted him
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 16, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it is, still wish rampage would of gotten Big Country though!!
Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit.
Naw cause his tits would have distracted him
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 16, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Nelson isn’t Asian
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 17, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I like to see that Schaub came out immediately and made himself the heel. I have never liked him though, so he didn’t have to say much for me to hate him.
Stupid Colorado Buffaloes. They sucked with him, suck now without him.
Also, how fitting is it that he was the first one to talk shit on Kimbo and then go on to say in interviews that he (Kimbo) is a really good guy?
by Screwface on Sep 17, 2009 12:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
He just said what all the other 14 guys were thinking. It was either “F Kimbo” or “I want to fight him, that’s an easy W”. That’s why I’d love for Kimbo to paste at least one over-confident bastard.
by greco-roman airlines on Sep 17, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
one more pick and the guy holding the boom mike would be on Team Rampage
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I sort of thought that Kimbo’s standup would be better. After all the street fighting and the training he’s been doing, his punches looked really sloppy, he sort of swings from his shoulders instead of his hips.
I think that sometimes Rampage is too busy trying to act and say the funny thing. I prefered it right after his red bull accident. He was all mellow and didn’t care about trying to say something clever and funny. He seemed more real. Now it seems like he just wants the celebrity personae.
Rampage is too busy being Rampage. If he didn’t have the coaches doing the actual work, he’d be really screwed. Then again, that coaching staff picked a guy who spent nine minutes trying failing to do a damn thing off his back against a wrestler. Almost as if they’d asked either Evans or Jackson to pick the first fight.
In a way, at this point, this season is starting to look like the one with Tito and Ken. I don’t have any respect for the public persona Ortiz is working, but he worked his ass off with his team while Ken was too busy counting the days till he got his ass whooped by Tito.
Of course, this proves jack s**t about how the eventual Evans-Rampage match will go. Right now, though – I’d hate to be on team Rampage.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Sep 17, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions
does the winning team pick next fight or loser i always thought winner did but ending made it seem like rampage gets it
Rampages picks seemed completely unbelievable to me.
It does not make any sense at all. I mean, does he or his team not have the same info that Rashad’s does? I was just dumbfounded watching their picks & found myself yelling at the tv for him to pick someone else.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Terrible...
Rashad grabs up all the wrestlers plus Nelson. Weakest guy is maybe McSweeney, and Rampage doesn’t even have the wrestlers or jiu-jitsu guys to take him down and crush him. Sad, just sad.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 17, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That is my point exactly.
In his description of each one of his guys it was-“man he is huge, ok hands, decent bjj, his wrestling? uh, not so much.” It seems like he is just laying out the formula for all of his guys to lose.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
If you sneeze at McSweeney you might take him down
by greco-roman airlines on Sep 17, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
If I were Rashad, I’d throw McSweeny at Kimbo (assuming that he is not selected to fight in episode #2). Highly experienced pro kickboxer against a neophyte pro ‘streetboxer’ sound like the best matchup possible for his buddy.
The only problem with that is that most people highly under-rate Kimbo’s hands. He’s actually pretty accurate and has some Mack trucks behind those punches. McSweeney isn’t exactly Iron Man in the chin department. McSweeney vs. Jones is probably his best bet.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 17, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that the only thing you can really rate with Kimbo is his hands, but they looked sloppy and slow when he was sparring. It’s no wonder he hasn’t really hit anyone flush besides tank and the white trash he fought in the parking lot.
I mean, maybe he’ll prove me wrong, and there’s probably power there, but he throws his head and shoulders into his punches. They looked slow with no snap to me. But that’s just me and I’m no expert.
Rampage
did get guys with UFC experience, and got the guys with size/athletic ability… the type of guys who progress very quickly. Im not saying he should be the favorite, but I can see his logic.
All he needs to do is coach em up.
But there’s just not much time – they pack 14 fights into 6 weeks – more than two per week.
dude, Rampage couldnt teach a fish to swim
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
by Chris Toffer on Sep 17, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
right but Im sure the UFC knows going into this who they want to do well. At least one of the NFL guys is going to make it in an attempt to give the sport more credibility. While Big Country may be the most experienced, he does not have as high a ceiling as the other fighters. They want diamond in the rough guys, and he is there to test them. The guys who come out of TUF usually improve dramatically. I just dont see the more experienced guys getting any better. The UFC wants guys like Brock who can initially win some fights with athletic ability and improve quickly.
My guess is Nelson, Schoonover, Schaub, & Wren (all team Rashad) in the semifinals. I guarantee Dana is going to have to step in and restock Rampage’s team with some of the Rashad’s guys.
I’m pretty sure Sims comes up with a huge upset at some point.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 17, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
TAKE HIM DOWN WANG!
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by Leland Roling on Sep 17, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
First off let me say this..
Rampage is not a good coach.. He is terrible.. With that said..
In his defense, as a coach you can only do so much for someone. It’s still up to the individual to go out and perform up to his/her ability. Coaching just get’s you prepared mentally. The single most important aspect to a great coach is their ability to understand your limitations and to prepare you mentally for the worst. The execution of any game plan is dependent upon the individual themselves. In combat sports the key thing to a coach is for their ability to provide you with enough confidence to get the job done. A coach is there to stroke your ego & formulate a plan of attack. You have to have both of those simultaneously otherwise, self doubt will come in to play. Again the key thing for a coach is to prepare you “mentally”..
The one fault Rampage has at being a coach is that he doesn’t know enough about “all” the fighters in the sport to be effective as a coach. A coach is like a talent scout in a sense. It’s their jobs to know the who’s, who, and to identify their strength and weaknesses. Then prepare you mentally for that challenge. Page was giving him sound advice.. Although it wasn’t with much motivational tone, it was still sound advice.. He repeatedly told Abe to work off the fence, to try for a sweep, to work to his feet. He also told him every single time that he was going to go for the same takedown and to circle out and sprawl.. It’s was just as much Abe’s fault as it was Pages.. Abe was a broken fighter because he wasn’t prepared mentally for the challenge ahead. Page didn’t know anything about his opponent to even give him a solid plan.. Just go out and fight..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
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