Rumor: Randy Couture Will Fight Brandon Vera in the Main Event of UFC 105
by Michael Rome on Sep 13, 2009 11:22 AM EDT
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It is strongly rumored that Randy Couture will return to the octagon in the main event at UFC 105 opposite Brandon Vera in a light heavyweight showdown. After weeks of scrambling for main events and coming up short, the UFC turned to Couture, who was willing to fight the best fighter they could find at 205 pounds.
The UFC originally approached Couture with a bout against Rashad Evans, and Couture accepted, but Evans turned the fight down. Couture is one of the biggest names to ever appear on a UFC Spike TV show.
The rumor was confirmed by reliable sources close to a number of parties early Sunday morning.
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I dont know how to feel about this but excited is definitely not the word I’m looking for.
by Discman2 on Sep 13, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy is going to destroy that week fighter
I’m not even a Randy Fan but I think everyone knows that Vera was never and is never as good as he thinks he is. I hope Randy knocks his teeth out so I don’t have to hear his annoying trash talk anymore.
MirJitsu4Life
by MirJitsu4Life on Sep 13, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least save your disdain for someone who deserves it, like Mir ;-)
by soadtrails on Sep 13, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he IS Frank Mir and he’s still bitter about the loss.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
makes perfect sense to me!!
by soadtrails on Sep 13, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least save your disdain for someone who deserves it, like Mir ;-)
Note to self:
Bashing a fighter? Ok.
Harmless frog jokes? That shall not stand!!!
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you meant
“weak”
:)
The other “week” is a length of 7 day period.. And that’s a fight for everyone just to get through one of those !!!
lol
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Sep 13, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. Meh
2. Rashad is an idiot to give up such a big payday
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by thetakeover on Sep 13, 2009 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to guess that you want Vera to win, and I want him to win too. However, this is going to be Vera’s toughest test to date. If Vera fought like he did against K-Sos, I can’t see him winning because Couture will enforce his will on Vera. Fighting conservatively against Couture isn’t going to get Vera the win. At Vera’s best, he has the tools to beat almost anyone, and we will have to see Vera at his best to win.
I just realized that if Couture loses, then that would be three losses in a row.
by chrisbboy82 on Sep 13, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He won't fight conservatively..
again, he said he thought K-sos wasn’t that good so he wanted to practice boxing and fighting in southpaw the whole time.. He also said that he wouldn’t do that shit when facing the top guys..
And i think people are forgetting that Randy is showing signs of aging.. His chin is getting weaker and his reaction time is getting slower, and since his last fight was so entertaining people tend to overlook those things. But i guess that’s a good for Vera, at least if he gets a win, less people would want to discredit a win..
Those are also the reasons why i don’t think this is Vera’s toughest test in his career.. Surely it’s the biggest fight of his life since he’s against one of the most popular fighters ever.. this will surely be his toughest fight in a while, but i don’t think it’s his toughest ever..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you see this fight staying in the standup or going to the ground?
by chrisbboy82 on Sep 13, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that is the million dollar question..
I think whoever can decide where the fight takes place wins this..
I think Vera has the advantage standing up, but Randy will have an advantage on the clinch and on the fence.. On the ground i think whoever is on top has the advantage. Vera has a more active guard but he surely wouldn’t want a great wrestler like couture on top of him.
I think whoever is able to impose his will and dictate where the fight takes place will take this.. Vera should stay of the fence and avoid takedowns but Randy always has a good game plan. Should be good fight.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand the age thing with Couture, and while it does show, Randy still fights extremely well. I have to agree that Vera has the advantage in the standup while Randy has the advantage in the wrestling and in the clinch. There are two different ways of looking at this. One, Vera has gotten his tune-up fights at 205 and should be fighting tougher competition. Or, Vera needs to fight more mid-tier fighters at 205 like, for example, Matt Hammill or Jake O’ Brien to be built up to fight top-tier competition. I know that I am asking a lot of questions, but do you think that going from K-Sos to Randy Couture is too big of a jump?
by chrisbboy82 on Sep 14, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a big jump..
BUT.. i don’t think it’s TOO big.. i think he can do it.. Even if his last fight was against a mid level fighter, He has fought the same or even tougher competition before..
BUT.. i don’t think it’s TOO big.. i think he can do it.. Even if his last fight was against a mid level fighter, He has fought the same or even tougher competition before..this would be the biggest opportunity Vera could have and i think it would be great for him.. He’d be real stupid if he declined to headline a numbered UFC event against someone like Couture.
BUT.. i don’t think it’s TOO big.. i think he can do it.. Even if his last fight was against a mid level fighter, He has fought the same or even tougher competition before..this would be the biggest opportunity Vera could have and i think it would be great for him.. He’d be real stupid if he declined to headline a numbered UFC event against someone like Couture.Now if it was against the Anderson Silva’s or the Lyoto Machida’s or even the Rampage’s in the division…………
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 14, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?!
why does this keep happening recently?
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 14, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he said he thought K-sos wasn’t that good so he wanted to practice boxing and fighting in southpaw the whole time.. He also said that he wouldn’t do that shit when facing the top guys..
Interesting. So he said that he intentionally fought a lackluster and boring fight because his opponent wasn’t any good. Strange thing to do :)
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think it was intentionally lackluster. He was trying to get better at south-paw, which would make him more dangerous in the future.
The lacklusterness was simply a byproduct of him not being as good at southpaw yet.
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
by DrunkinMidget187 on Sep 13, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, but seems admitting to the UFC that they just paid you quite a bit of money to (essentially) spar isn’t probably the smartest move – especially since he already has a reputation of being a bit of a yawner.
But if this rumor is true, shows what I know eh? ;)
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was trying to get better at south-paw, which would make him more dangerous in the future.
Isn’t that what training is for? Sounds like more of an excuse than anything.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Missing the point? Or just trying to put words in my mouth?
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and
Just assume you had a lapse in reading comprehension skills.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he said he thought K-sos wasn’t that good so he wanted to practice boxing and fighting in southpaw the whole time.. He also said that he wouldn’t do that shit when facing the top guys..
Maybe I am missing the point. Wouldn’t that mean that since he believed his opponent wasn’t very good, he decided to spend three rounds sparring rather than doing his best to finish the fight?
Vizzini: We’ll head straight for the Gilder frontier. You catch up with us there. If he falls, fine. If not, the sword.
Inigo Montoya: I’m going to duel him left-handed.
Vizzini: You know what a hurry we’re in!
Inigo Montoya: Well, is only way I can be satisfied. If I use my right… over too quickly.
Vizzini: [exasperated] Oh, have it your way.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and
Just assume you had a lapse in reading comprehension skills.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
That source has ditched Sherdog as the vehicle of choice?
Amazing!
Congrats Rome!
by Rob Maysey on Sep 13, 2009 7:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice opportunity for Vera...
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
by Loot on Sep 13, 2009 7:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. A scambling head kick could make it a very nice night
by S J on Sep 13, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it this happens, even though my countrymen will fight here, i’m more inclined on rooting for Capt. America…
"I' Always Look Tired, I Play Possum" - Mark "The Hammer" Coleman
by awesome21 on Sep 13, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh no you didn't...
picking Randy is one. rooting against Vera is just…….
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s Capt. America man…. .^_^. and it will make or break Vera’s career if this fight happen
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by awesome21 on Sep 13, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My question is why?
Vera wins and is makes Couture look even more like a has been
Couture wins and Vera is what we thought he was, all potential and no growth.
by rocket8188 on Sep 13, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You eventually have to let fighters fight
If Vera was a prospect with his submision wrestling and kickboxing background, but only a couple of fights in small promotions, I’d agree with you; but Vera doesn’t need to be shielded at this point.
The same thing can be said for Dos Santos vs. Cro Cop; if Cro Cop loses, the casual fans who’ve never seen Dos Santos or know just how good he is will think it’s just a sign of Cro Cop being too old or a bad fight for fighting in a cage (heard rumblings of that after the loss to Napao, and I think we’ve all seen that he’s a legit threat with massive power in his kicks). Likewise, if Dos Santos loses, it pushes a top prospect back a little. But fighters who are at or near the top need to fight dangerous guys.
I personally think Couture should be able to clinch with and overpower Vera. Vera isn’t likely to put on a leg-kicking clinic against a guy like Couture, and while he has a solid wrestling background, he’s not as good as Randy. Interesting fight, but still would rather see Cane/Rogeria.
by Ryjo on Sep 13, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's the thing.
You can discredit almost any victory in the sport.. But a win is a win, and people shouldn’t be discrediting shit..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d this comment. I’ve made a career out of discrediting wins. Well, not a career, but I’m good at it.
by MMAEruption on Sep 13, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Vera would win so we wont have to discredit any thing.
by Riley_96 on Sep 13, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I think Vera does as Luke said he would do in his last fight and chip away at Couture. Got to admit Couture is slower. But if it gets to the ground I think vera will lose quickly
by rocket8188 on Sep 13, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BIt surprised that they didn’t wait a week to see how 103 pans out and see if they could do Randy vs Franklin or Cro Cop. I guess Randy has chosen to fight at LHW and Rich isn’t interested in doing a quick turnaround?
by rabrown on Sep 13, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d be more interested in Randy vs. Lil Nog or Cane and let Vera fight the other guy at 106.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy vs. Vera is a solid fight. The thing that needs to be remembered is that this event is on Spike. So Randy vs. ANYONE makes it a good main event because it will attract viewers.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 13, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If this fight pushes through,
it would actually be a very huge opportunity for Vera.. A win over a guy like Randy, with millions of people watching would really do wonders for his career.
Same thing with Randy, if he wins this LHW fight, his career is revived, just like when he first dropped down and beat Chuck Liddell after losing two HW fights before that.
What is interesting though, is that Randy’s contract has a percentage of the PPV buys. And since it’s a free card, I guess the UFC will have to pay him extra for him to agree to do this right?
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody said last night the PPV escalators in the new contracts turn into ratings escalators on free cards.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A win over a guy like Randy, with millions of people watching would really do wonders for his career.
Yes.
Same thing with Randy, if he wins this LHW fight, his career is revived
No. A win over Vera just means that he beat a guy he is supposed to easily beat.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are people so hard on Vera? His only losses are to Sylvia, Werdum, and Jardine.
Sylvia had JUST lost his belt to Randy, Werdum caught him, and Jardine was by a close split decision. It’s not like Vera has a 3 fight losing streak to nobodies coming into this fight.
I like Vera in this fight.
by Screwface on Sep 13, 2009 12:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Why are people so hard on Vera? His only losses are to Sylvia, Werdum, and Jardine.
Because his last two wins were against Michael Patt and Krystoff Solhljdhski, and he hasn’t looked impressive at all lately. I’m not saying the guy is a can or a scrub or anything, not at all. I’m only saying that Vera and Couture shouldn’t be in the same sentence, let alone the same cage, right now. Let Vera do something to earn it first, IMO.
And I just realized the irony of my post and my sig… thanks weoweoweo :P
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem..
If this pushes through, since you seem to think Vera is a guy that should easily lose to couture, want another sig bet? :)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
sure, tho it is pretty far away, no?
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, maybe something would come up before this happens..
but i’m gonna gather lots of bets since lots of people will pick randy here. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you are going to end up with the most ridiculous sig ever. I would take a sig bet with Randy in a heartbeat.
by Captain7 on Sep 13, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the problem with matchmaking is its not always about merit, oftentimes its about who’s available. They clearly tried other things – but Vera is know, established, on a two-fight win streak, and has a good win-lose record. Sure would Rashad be perferable? Yeah, but you can’t hate the guy for not wanting to spoil what should be a big time, big money fight with Rampage on the chance he might get Bonnar’d (ie, lose to old man wrestler when you shouldn’t). Based on who’s available, there wasn’t really anyone else you could go with for Randy at LHW.
Besides, this is like a mirror image of what people where saying about Chuck-Rashad
by mason_beer on Sep 13, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Rome over at Bloody Elbow reports that Randy Couture will make his return to the light heavyweight division at UFC 105, where he’ll face Brandon Vera in the main event of the evening.
Inside Fights has confirmed the planned bout with sources close to the organization.
The UFC even tried to book Anderson Silva against Matt Hughes in a middleweight title defense. Hughes agreed to the bout, but the deal fell apart on Silva’s side.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow Silva vs. Hughes would have been more lopsided than Silva vs. Forrest.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would of loved Hughes vs. Silva. Not too excited about Brandon Vera vs. Randy Couture, Maybe if it was at heavyweight.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Sep 13, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes v Silva would have been worse than watching Pujols play tee-ball…
by Screwface on Sep 13, 2009 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
silva vs hughes would be a ppv funeral.
hughes would lose in 1 minute. st pierre couldnt beat silva and matt hughes will never beat st pierre again.
by mid.vill.queens on Sep 13, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone says MMA math doesn’t work, that’s especially true when you use MMA math for fights that haven’t even happened.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMA math + nonexistent fights = fail
by Captain7 on Sep 13, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as odd as it sounds, i would have loved silva vs hughes.
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Sep 13, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you hate Matt Hughes?
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by Mike Fagan on Sep 13, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same reason i would’ve loved to have seen that fight too
by brazary on Sep 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have loved to see a Hughes “in his prime” fight the Anderson Silva of today.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Sep 13, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva still would have won. The game has evolved to where one dimensional fighters like Hughes get beat more often than not by the multi-dimensional ones.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to admit, good wrestling will give Silva fits of frustration. Example, Okami. I think a Hughes “in his prime”, would not be so gun-shy about trying to take Silva down.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Sep 13, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly Hughes almost fought Anderson Silva after Silva beat Sakurai for the Shooto 170 lb. title. Silva opted for PRIDE instead, and that’s how we got Hughes/Sakurai.
by JRN on Sep 13, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hendo already tried LnP on Silva and we all know how that ended.
by Screwface on Sep 13, 2009 11:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes could barely squeak by Matt Serra – how the f*ck could he get a middleweight title shot/
by MMAEruption on Sep 13, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes vs Silva
Are you joking right now? Come on! Two of my favorite fighters but there’s no way that it lasts more than two minutes. Talk about a mismatch.
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by dedstrk316 on Sep 13, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i guess its interesting in the fact that i’m not sure who will win the fight. but its a fight i dont really care to see. couture has maybe 3 fights left in him before he’s a “chuck liddell” level guy, IMO. i would much rather see 3 big NAME competitors against him. the couture vs liddell 4 fight intrigued me more than this.
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by MicahW on Sep 13, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amusing comment from CagePotato:
We’re guessing that Rashad refused the fight against Randy because they’re now part of the same unified monolithlic MMA camp, Xtreme Greg’s, and everybody knows that Xtreme Greg fighters don’t fight each other unless there’s a title on the line; it’s more than a team, it’s a brotherhood.
by Scott Haber on Sep 13, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Belts < Bros.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 13, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad Randy woulda been GREAT
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by Markakis and Wieters 4 Life on Sep 13, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
At the moment Vera is hardly considered a contender, or even interesting. I would have assumed Randy would fight an actual contender, or at least a name that will bring in viewers. Fighting Vera makes no sense for him.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Win-Win for Vera, Lose-Lose for Couture. I don’t get it.
I can’t imagine this to be true unless they offered Randy a truckload of gold bullion…
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy will get a title shot if he wins.
by Michael Rome on Sep 13, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and if he loses to Brandon Vera? That’s a huge bye-bye to any career he may have in front of him. I would have to think he would hold off for bigger names and draws on PPV cards rather than risking everything on a free night of fights against a (relatively-speaking) nobody.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not how the business works. Losses never kill draws, he will always draw based on the same factors that have made him draw or not. It won’t kill anything if he loses, he’ll still be making a shit ton of money on his new deal, and he’s always one win away from a big fight.
by Michael Rome on Sep 13, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think his marketability goes down the tubes if he loses to Vera, and any interest among casuals and even semi-hard-cores of Couture vs. a named fighter also goes away.
But we shall see.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, because it’s not like Couture has ever lost before.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s never lost to anyone as low on the totem pole as Brandon Vera (in the UFC, that is).
by JRN on Sep 13, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if you go by MMA math, Vera's already won.
Vera beat Mir, Mir beat Lesnar, Lesnar beat Couture.
But is goes the other way, too. Couture beat Silvia and Silvia beat Vera.
I am looking forward to this fight, though.
by Screwface on Sep 13, 2009 11:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Lose Lose 4 Rany? dont think so.
how is it lose lose for Randy? he is on a 2 fight losing streak. if he wins…you know whats going to happen? EVERY one will say how great of a champ he is that he beat a guy half his age. its a big marketing tool, dont be tooled. (i will put my money on Randy. even though Vera might pull out an upset out of his behind. ITS MMA YOU NEVER KNOW 100%)
by 1WAYtiket on Sep 14, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is it lose lose for Randy?
If he wins, he didn’t beat anyone of note. He only beat Vera, who is far from a contender.
If he loses, he just lost to nobody of note. He lost to Vera, who is far from a contender.
Lose-Lose, he stands nothing to gain.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 14, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Vera is still gun-shy, it'll be a world of hurt for him.
Can’t say I’d be bothered by that. I haven’t been impressed with him since his return.
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by themachiavellian on Sep 13, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What.
But then for some reason I’m pretty damn excited for this.
by Gong on Sep 13, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This fight makes sense
Randy and Vera are both working towards title shots at LHW. Vera needed a step up in competition at LHW, and Randy needs a solid opponent to reestablish himself in the division. Whoever wins probably needs one more win after this fight and they get a title shot. So the fight makes sense on that level. Anyone complaining about Vera not being a good enough opponent for Randy needs to realize that Randy is on a 2 fight losing streak. I also find the fight intriguing because I think everyone is discounting Vera’s greco wrestling. It is very good. He also had good jiu jitsu, and I think lst people would agree his standup is superior to Randys. Plus Randys chin didn’t look so hot against Big Nog, if Vera is aggressive he can probably put Randy down, maybe not finish him, but get some knockdowns like Nog did. I think this is a great fight.
by IWillPartyHard on Sep 13, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Key phrase
“If Vera is aggressive”
That hasn’t happened for a looooong time.
by Django Z on Sep 13, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another contender
I agree because whichever fighter wins will be seen by most fans as a legitimate contender, so you have another challenger for the LHW titleholder.
And Vera is nowhere near as scary as, say, Anderson Silva. I really don’t know if I want to see Couture vs. Silva…
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Sep 13, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is NOT a super-fight damnit! Save Randy for another legend to fight, like Anderson Silva, Or Wandy or something! Not Vera!
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Sep 13, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vera would get his ass handed to him. This fight won’t happen.
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by BadB on Sep 13, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
^^ I agree
It makes no sense at all.
Vera goes from beating Michael Patt (who?) and decisioning Krystoff Sozyehkjhkjd,mski to main eventing against Randy Couture? It doesn’t make any sense.
if it turns out to be true, either Couture pissed someone off and is getting his punishment, or they offered him tons of cash on the side.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just reading way too much into it. Randy is getting a great payday, wanted to fight, has 6 fights left, and almost assuredly got a promise of a title shot if he wins.
I promise you it is true.
by Michael Rome on Sep 13, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Am I the only one that bursts out laughing when people completely give up on even trying to spell “krzysztof soszynski” ???
by ironic sumo on Sep 13, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I got tired of looking him up to see how it’s spelled, and besides people know who I mean :) I like the guy, I don’t mean it against him.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People are very quick to forget that Randy was just dropped numerous times in his last fight by Minotauro, who was never known as a power puncher (he’s been known for the opposite, in fact). Vera’s got solid technique and superior reach. It’s a little hasty to say he’ll get his ass handed to him.
by JRN on Sep 13, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Vera has a good chance of winning this, which is why I don’t understand it. Its a great match for Vera, either he lost to a legend * shrug * or he just beat a legend * omgYES! *.
The opposite is true for Randy. Either he lost to a (relatively) nobody * cry * or he beats someone he is supposed to beat * toenail pick *
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The opposite is true for Randy. Either he lost to a (relatively) nobody * cry * or hebeats someone he is supposed to beat * toenail pick *gets a title shot
Fixed
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone but Vera
He looks so average lately. Definitely not deserving of a main event.
I expect this fight to permanently relegate him to middle of the card for the rest of his career.
by Django Z on Sep 13, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh Boy
Okay, so it was originally Silva/Bisping then Kang/Bisping then Penn/Sanchez then Rogerio/??? then Rogerio/Cane then Marquardt/Henderson then Couture/Evans and now Couture/Vera
Phew ! Rumors. rumors, rumors
by KKamikaze on Sep 13, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard it was Professor Plum, in the attic, with the blowtorch.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so can we just blow this off as the UFC just trying out ideas and seeing what the interenet fanbase would react?
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Sep 13, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm
that’s a good thought. I can see that being the case.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In terms of losses ending things for fighters, people say this shit without thinking about it. Consider this possibility: Randy loses to Vera via KO, then 4 months later they do Wanderlei Silva vs. Randy Couture in like a German main event. If Randy won that, they could EASILY follow it up with Randy vs. Shogun, Randy vs. Rashad, Randy vs. almost anyone at 205.
Of course losing a bunch in a row will hurt him, like anyone else, but Randy will be fine. It’s a good test to see where he’s at at 205 pounds. Vera is still a very good fighter.
by Michael Rome on Sep 13, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
People need to realize that Randy Couture is never more than 2 wins away from a title shot. He’s Randy freaking Couture!
by Razzel on Sep 13, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless people consider him a joke as a title contender. Already after the Nog fight people started (or rather, continued) to say that Randy was finally too old to be a contender. A loss to someone like Vera would just cement it.
I agree about the UFCs hype machine – hell, it made Hughes vs Serra almost interesting again – but that only effects tho of us who pay attention, not the casuals. And those of us who pay attention realize that a loss to Vera would make a fight with Wanderlei somewhat pointless (except as maybe an exhibition type fight).
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes, you just need to give a prospect a chance
Brandon Vera vs. Randy Couture reminds me a lot of Rashad Evans vs. Chuck Liddell. People doubted Evans since he won TUF and after his shaky “draw” to Tito Ortiz. But he was given a chance to break out, and he took it. You can’t be a prospect forever and if Vera is going to breakthrough at 205 lbs, they need to just give him a shot against someone and let him sink or swim.
by mason_beer on Sep 13, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This matchup actually harkens a Gonzaga vs. Couture type of feel. You got the young challenger in Vera trying to make Randy his stepping stone. Well except for the fact that Gonzaga was comming off of a huge KO over Crocop and Vera has no exciting KO recently…
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Sep 13, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really.. NO ONE gave evans a chance.. he was supposed to be “fed” to Chuck Liddell…
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that fight was a personal fav of mine. Out of 20 or so friends, I was the only one to pick Rashad before the fight. If only I had put money on it . . .
by mason_beer on Sep 13, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think a lot of people will be picking Vera in this one.
by Razzel on Sep 13, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a random brandon vera thought: for a guy with such a decorated greco background, how is it he always gets pushed around in the clinch, trapped against the fence, and taken down by guys who are mediocre wrestlers?
by Michael Rome on Sep 13, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy must really want that Machida fight.
by Chris Nelson on Sep 13, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't know why
Machida would destroy Couture
by mason_beer on Sep 13, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of Randy’s wins were against guys that were supposed to destroy him.
by Razzel on Sep 13, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on, dude
Did you see what Machida did to Evans? Look, we all love Randy Couture but Machida is on another planet than him right now.
by mason_beer on Sep 13, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it was between fighting Andeson Silva and Brandon Vera who would you pick?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what “Randy” sounds like when it’s being chanted by english folk?
RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY! RAHNDY!
Keep firing Assholes!
Protect your caterpillar from Kimbo Slice.
by Ubernoober on Sep 13, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and would the British equivilent of the FCC get upset?
cuz randy means horny in brit-speak.. nvm, I tried :P
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you remember when Tiger Woods said he was a spaz on the course at the British Open, and everyone flipped the fuck out? Aparrently spaz in English english is a derogatory term for a mentally disabled person.
Keep firing Assholes!
Protect your caterpillar from Kimbo Slice.
by Ubernoober on Sep 13, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, didn’t know about that one.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 13, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, calling someone a “spastic” over there is equivalent to “retard.”
by Chris Nelson on Sep 13, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone was ill about the catchweight fights….and honestly, this A. Silva vs whoever, Couture up and down etc whatever, is just the same. match-ups with a big name to pad a PPV but not actually advancing anything in terms of pursuing a belt.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei.
http://theworldsoldestsport.blogspot.com/
by theworldsoldestsport on Sep 13, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Couture isn’t going up and down, he said he wanted to move to LHW after his loss to Nog.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 13, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh…not very excited about this match up.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 13, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I’ll be watching Pacquiao-Cotto that day.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 13, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be watching both. :)
the UFC is shown live on TV, and pacquiao fights are delayed a bit cause of all the crappy commercials..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pac-Man vs Cotto is going to be HUGE here, so we have a whole filipino pot luck gathering in the works. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 13, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow..
that would be fun. :)
I’ll be watching Vera during the delayed Pacquiao undercard is, while constantly avoiding spoilers from those who watched it live.. My phone will be off, no internet, nothing… Right after the UFC is done, it will probably be a couple of fights before the boxing main event..
I always watch pacquiao fights live, but this time i’m gonna make an exception since it’s gonna be Vera.. Probably invite a few people over, order some food, and watch two fight cards that feature the biggest Filipino stars in their respective sports.. (although ofcourse, Vera isn’t even close to being half as accomplished as Manny is..)
either way, could be a great day for Filipino fight fans.. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is it possible that there are all of these Filipinos everywhere and I’ve only ever met one?
Keep firing Assholes!
Protect your caterpillar from Kimbo Slice.
by Ubernoober on Sep 13, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cause Filipinos in the US either look American, Mexican, Hawaiian, or Chinese. hahaha.
When i go to San Francisco every year,(which have tons of Filipinos) I even have trouble finding out which ones are Filipinos unless they speak the language..
And if they live their or grew up there, they won’t be speaking much tagalog anyway. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 13, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you lived in California, Vegas, or New York its basically impossible to NOT see a Pinoy. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 14, 2009 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(although ofcourse, Vera isn’t even close to beinghalf1/512 as accomplished as Manny is..)
1/512
Keep firing Assholes!
Protect your caterpillar from Kimbo Slice.
by Ubernoober on Sep 13, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You better not miss it. Cotto is NO JOKE. It will be Manny’s toughest fight in a LONG time.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 14, 2009 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't worry. i will NEVER miss a Pacquiao fight..
the only question for me is if it’s live or slightly delayed.. I’m choosing slightly delayed for this one. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 14, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DId not see this coming at all, but it’s about time that Vera puts up or gets released he’s been too gun shy lately and Randy will dominate him if he doesn’t show up to fight. The only loser in this appears to be Hendo, like I said the guy is delusional and will end up without a contract and Nate getting a shot at Silva sometime next year all because of ego.
by Raker on Sep 14, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ego? He wants to get paid before he retires, and he is at the best position in his career to demand what he thinks he deservers.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 14, 2009 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he’s not, Hendo has no pull with the UFC he’s no where the star he thinks he is in his mind and will find that out when Nate is getting the next shot at Silva and he has no contract. Sadly these fighters haven’t learned their lessons from others and continue to think they can dictate terms to the UFC when they have no pull Hendo will be the next example of dumb business decisions 101.
by Raker on Sep 14, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck this matchup.
Pony up for Hendo vs Nate @105
I am mega pissed at this useless piece of matchmaking. Randy should not be headlining an event right now, let alone VERA!
I like both fighters, but Randy just got manhandled twice in a row and is cutting down to face a mid tier fighter. I think the hurt is compounded by the fact that I almost had Nate the GREAT in the UK…
Not buying my tickets to Manchester just yet and writing to the UFC to express my discontent at the trashy matchmaking which really doesn’t affect the division at all.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Sep 14, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why won't it affect the division?
Randy is promised a title shot if he wins.. I say that pretty much affects the division cause it could possibly determine the next title contender..
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 14, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he won’t win the title, so it doesn’t affect the division.
weoweoweo is the best… and I <3 Vera cause he is pogi.
by mythbuster on Sep 14, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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