Appreciating Greatness in Mixed Martial Arts
In just a few hours, Michael Jeffrey Jordan will be inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame. Growing up in the Chicago area, Jordan peaked right around the age that I started to comprehend the world around me. My elementary and junior high years are littered with bike rides to McDonald's, feeling funny around girls, and Bulls championship seasons.
And just like the events of 9/11 eight years ago to the day, you never fully appreciate the historic nature of what you're experiencing in those moments. It's not until years later that you can look back and understand the greatness you witnessed.
I'd argue that MMA has a long way to go before it finds its Michael Jordan. Fedor Emelianenko, arguably the best available candidate, is more Babe Ruth than Barry Bonds, more Wilt Chamberlain than MJ. While his accomplishments impress and his skills remain unrivaled, it's fair to say his run came at a time of top-heavy shallowness of talent.
But while we wait for our superstar that defines the sport, we should never fail to be thankful for what we witness month-in and month-out. It's easy to get muddled with inane discussions about rankings and who's ducking who and failed contract negotiations, forgetting the reason why we watch dudes punch each other in the face in the first place.
So, on the day that the world celebrates the greatest basketball player of all time, let's show some appreciation for the fighters we love in the comments. The domination and mystique of Fedor. The technical wizardry of Anderson Silva. The unheralded innovation of Lyoto Machida. The unmatched athleticism of Georges St. Pierre. The challenge-seeking B.J. Penn. The godfather of the sport, Royce Gracie. And the timelessness of Randy Couture.
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Admittedly, my love for basketball died when Jordan left the game.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 11, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The first time he left? the second or the third? Seems like a cheap shot, but its a legit question. I had mixed feelings about him after his come back and I don’t like to talk about the Wizard years. Even though I am a wizards fan.
by szucconi on Sep 11, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched a bit on his second comeback, but I was done with the NBA when he was with the Wizards.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 11, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His second go-round wasn’t as dominating, but one of my fondest sports memories was when he hit that jumper to put the Bulls up in game 6 of the ’98 finals.
by kid_eh on Sep 11, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bryon Russell says...
Best.
Push-off.
Ever.

by argyle on Sep 11, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is true…though still a great shot
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
by woomikee on Sep 11, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know I’ve watched that play a couple of times, and I don’t think anyone would’ve gotten that call. Maybe in the regular season, but as playoff games come down to the wire like that, little push-offs like that don’t usually get called. Unless of course you’re a Utah fan.
by Dooda on Sep 11, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all honesty.. I’ve been a basketball player for 18 years. I’ve played on the And1 Tour.. I’ve hosted many games & always been a quick guard.. I’ve played against some of the quickest basketball players in the game to some of the best the game has ever had (including pro’s)..
Jordan didn’t push off.. If you look closely, he always drives with the arm out, it’s just natural for guys luck us that drive to the hole. It creates space for us.. But as he crossed over, there was no push.. His arm stayed out but he never used it to push off.. Bryon Russell had all his weight & momentum shifted to his left.. As Jordan pauses like so many quick guards do, it’s called the bait.. While up on your toes you give the illusion you’re going to drive one way as soon as you rise up on your toes. This is why in all defensive sports they teach you to watch his mid section and not his head, shoulders or legs.. As he makes one motion to drive he shift’s his weight and bait’s him by pausing for a split second, This is what drew Byron to shift his momentum towards the direction he thought Michael was going to drive. As Michael began to drive, he dropped his shoulder to lower his center of gravity. This allows guards like us to shift our weight on a drop of a dime by staying low & on our toes.. As soon as he extended enough to see Byron had no chance to recover he crossed over and created space. Jordan was notorious for this move. Because he had such great balance and elevation, he reinvented his shot as a fade away to get shot’s off while shooting over double teams and allowing himself to create enough space to get clean looks away or over defenders.. Byron just got caught again.. He also slipped trying to stop.. I’ve had Iverson catch me with that same move multiple times while crossing me over.. Hot Sauce is one of the quickest ball handlers I’ve ever played with and against and the guy makes people look silly on the court..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Sep 12, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ohhhh yeah… LBJ and Shaq on the same team, I’m a celtic fan and i’m still gonna be nuthuggin the cavs
by amadeus on Sep 11, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GO C'S!
I love the Celtics. We should be pretty good again this year.
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by dedstrk316 on Sep 11, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, except I’m not rooting for the Cavaliers. I’m a Chicago sports fan. Bears, Cubs, Blackhawks, although Joe Sakic was my hockey idol, so I was a Quebec Nordiques/Colorado Avalanche fan by default, and they had some sick teams a few years back. I was a major Bulls fan, but lost interest after the lockout and Jordan left.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 11, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The lockout was just so killer… and then the Spurs made their title run and I was back. I had no choice.
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
by woomikee on Sep 11, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually watched the Bulls games vs. the Celtics this year, and it was actually pretty good… so I, at least, came back for a few nights this year.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 11, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a HUGE Bulls fan..
They have a great young team.. Give them a couple more years and they’ll be serious contenders to the Magic for the Eastern Conferences best team..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Sep 12, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here… I was (still am) a huge Jordan Fan. I can remember vividly laughing about 3 inches from my brothers face when Jordan hit that game winning shot on Bryon Russell in his last finals. My brother was a die hard Jazz fan.. I have no idea why.. Great stuff..
by asmiley420 on Sep 11, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
I had a similar experience involving the Byron Russell shot.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 11, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That picture doesn’t even seem real. I was watching highlights of Jordan’s greatest moments on ESPN this morning and I was so mystified that I literally forgot what I was going to do for like two minutes afterward. I really hope we get a fighter like that someday, if we don’t have that right now.
by Zack Gobie on Sep 11, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the greatest Jordan Highlight for me would have to be that dunk on Patrick Ewing. That shit was BADASS….The shot he hit on Ehlo was nice too….
by asmiley420 on Sep 11, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a longtime Knicks fan
I may be one of the few posters here not feeling the MJ love. That guy was my nemesis for far too long.
by rzor on Sep 11, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
I’m old enough to remember when Wilt Chamberlain was still the best ever. No one at the time was going, damn I wish someone better would come along.
Same with Babe Ruth, baseball fans got by on Ruth, Gehrig, Ted Williams, Stan Musial et al for quite a while.
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by Kid Nate on Sep 11, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is your age Nate if you don’t mind me asking?
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Lets just say that KID Nate is a misnomer and that KID Nate has an actual kid. In summary, Kid Nate is not a Kid although he has a kid. I have doubts about if he is a Nate.
I will continue to shoehorn this joke in where ever I can.
by szucconi on Sep 11, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great peice… i agree with you in every way and that pic still leaves me amazed.. even if fedor loses i still think he can has like you said paved the way for the greats. some day there will be an mj, gretsky, bonds, rice etc of mixed martial arts
by buttters on Sep 11, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The great thing about MMA
is it seems like there’s always this renewal of fighters that captivate and amaze with their skills and accomplishments anytime they get on a winning streak. I remember when Vitor won his first few fights, it seemed like he was some unbeatable superhero. Now Machida and Brock have the same affect on fans.
by rzor on Sep 11, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson Silva = Michael Jordan
That’s what I’ve always thought. The guy is just so far and above everybody else that my jaw is on the floor nearly every time he fights.
by Razzel on Sep 11, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for saying what I was about to say.
I grew up in Chicago and was in my twenties when Jordan hit the big time in 90-98. I still have my three-peat shirt. (Never worn) ;’P
But yeah, Anderson Silva’s lack of ability to speak English prevents him from becoming the next MJ of MMA.
The special thing about Jordan besides his on court domination was his eagerness to share a moment / chat up the sports journos and hang out with like minded people who cared about the game. He also had the marketing prowess and proper sports management behind him to blaze the proper trail.
I once caddied in a golf foursome of which he was a serious trash talker / competitor. He had the club pro as his caddy and constantly chided me for wearing Hakeem’s sponsored shoes at the time. I told him he was always welcome to throw me a pair of his shoes anytime to solve the problem. He snarfed a sec and we left it at that. However, throughout the eighteen holes, he gave the trash talk as well as took it better than most would.
He was a -6 handicap at the time.
He is a true gentleman off the court and just a magnetic personality.
How many people remember where they were when they won their first championship in 1990 with that awesome shifting of the hands magic under the basket against LA?
I still remember that moment. Damn skippy!
by JAYGK95 on Sep 11, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you should probably flip on 670 AM The Score today. They’ve been talking about all the amazing stuff Jordan used to do… like he memorized the media guide when he went down to White Sox camp, memorized it in a couple of hours and had someone quiz him on faces so he knew all the journalists.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 11, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was actually 1991
I’m a huge basketball fan.. :)
1990 The Bulls lost to the Piston’s in the 7th game of the Eastern Finals in Detroit.. :)
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Sep 12, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all, Wayne Gretzky > Michael Jordan
With that out of the way, those dunk contests between MJ and Dominique Wilkins were unreal.
Now, can an MMA athlete reach a Wayne Gretzky level of performance relative to his peers? Gretzky holds 61 different NHL records. I’m not really sure how someone could be that dominant without dedicating his life to the sport, and the sport has hardly been around long enough for anyone to do that.
What we’d need is someone like Anderson Silva who fights for 15 years and wins multiple titles at multiple weight classes with only momentary blips (a flash KO here or a Damien Maia submission there).
Give it time.
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by Llewdor on Sep 11, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha! AMEN!
But lemme say this…
Gretzky played in a day when obstruction penalties weren’t called at all. He’d get blasted all over the ice like a paper rag doll when he didn’t even have the puck. His best attribute was to seem unassuming, and then magic would happen instantly. I’m biased because I played in the juniors, but Gretzky was fucking ridiculous. It was like watching a magician.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 11, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MJ also played in the equivalent era for the NBA. If he played today with all the handcheck rules and the extreme bailout calls, MJ’d average 40+ per game
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
by woomikee on Sep 11, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MJ also played against diluted talent.
by gunranger on Sep 11, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
MJ played against diluted talent ?? That’s arguably the most unintelligent thing I have ever heard anyone say !!!!
Count the roster of the 50 greatest players and see how many of them Michael actually played against during his career.. Yeah.. you might want to rethink that statement..
Magic, Bird, Ewing, Barkley, Robinson, Stockton, Mchale, Malone, Olajuwon, Drexler, Wilkins, Gervin, Thomas, Worthy, Parish, Shaq ….
Plus both older and the newer generation of top players to which some are still playing today such as:
Kobe, Iverson, Anthony, Mourning, Hardaway (both Tim & Penny), Price, Daugherty, Kevin Johnson, Kidd, Mullin, Dumars, Laimbeer, Garnett, Duncan, Vince Carter, Mcgrady, the list could go on and on..
Jordan played against the best of the best (outside the first generation of NBA guys such as Chamberlain, Russell, Mikan, West, Abdul Jabbar, Erving, etc..) Jordan also played in a time when the league was at both the hardest and the easiest. There wasn’t any 3 point line during the early years & no dunking as well.. Jordan single handily elevated the game to where it is today. He was on the biggest stage of the biggest sport at that time & was so much better than what everyone in the world had to offer.. Unlike Soccer, as the other global sport, the NBA is the best of the best and Michael was undoubtedly the best the world had to offer during his years. Guys like Lebron & Kobe are mimicking their games to what Jordan’s was..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Sep 12, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree. Gretzky had this uncanny ability to visualize where the puck would be. Gretzky, Jordan… those kinds of athletes don’t come around often. Sometimes I wonder if we’ll ever see the likes of them again.
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by pud333 on Sep 11, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gretzky also played in the days before Roy introduced humongous goalie pads and serious use of the butterfly technique. It’s funny to watch videos of goalies prior to the current era.
Gretzky is still the greatest of all time.
by GKINMD on Sep 11, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
As George Carlin said, Hockey isn’t a sport. It’s three activities at the same time: ice skating, playing with a puck, and getting in a fight. If they did them separately, it’d be a lot better. :-)
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by jemaleddin on Sep 11, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMA isn’t a sport. It’s three activities at the same time: grappling, striking, and chess… wait, nevermind.
by kid_eh on Sep 11, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think CroCop is the fighter I most idolized, ever. I used to watch those Pride DVD again and again. I even stopped training anything but high kicks at some point LOL. And his awesome background! Member of the parliament, part of anti-terrorist forces among other crazy things. Legendary.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Sep 11, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First time I ever said "oh shit" during a fight:

by gunranger on Sep 11, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“The domination and mystique of Fedor. The technical wizardry of Anderson Silva. The unheralded innovation of Lyoto Machida. The unmatched athleticism of Georges St. Pierre. The challenge-seeking B.J. Penn. The godfather of the sport, Royce Gracie. And the timelessness of Randy Couture.”
Don’t forget the sexiness of Yoshihiro Akiyama, the pee-pee tasting of Tim Sylvia, the homo-erotic tattoos of Brock Lesnar, and the acting skills of Cung Le, Roger Huerta, and Rampage Jackson.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 11, 2009 5:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
haha….. and the staredown intensity of yoshihiro nakao?
by GregS123 on Sep 11, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe THAT’S what Arum was talking about…….
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Sep 11, 2009 9:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
..the unparalleled foot-drumming of Wanderlei Silva, the master of the zombie takedown Mark Coleman and flight inducing elbow spinning Jon Jones.
by DirtyML on Sep 11, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Brock keeps kicking ass…
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Sep 11, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Of the modern fighters, two fighters come to mind:
Machida – I love watching this guy fight. Pure and simple. He’s like a fucking ninja. I know it’s too early to talk about a real era, but Machida’s got a good shot at it.
GSP – Amazing athleticism, and all around classy guy. He’s a true champ. I really think he’s the perfect person to represent MMA.
I love me some Sexyama!
by pud333 on Sep 11, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
I was watching Jordan’s speech and thinking who was like that in MMA and GSP and Machida came to mind.
Wayyyy to early to tell but they’re the only ones who have the focus and drive. Anderson Silva with a different personality could have been, but he just isn’t. He has the skills, but not the relentless competitiveness.
Fedor? I appreciate his skill. But Jordan wouldn’t have signed with StrikeForce in a million years. Jordan had to be the best and prove it over and over and over. Maybe Fedor is the best, but he doesn’t have the drive to prove it. Too bad.
by Django Z on Sep 11, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The godfather of the sport, Akira Maeda
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Sep 11, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
curses, that’s Rings. I should have said Satoru Sayama…
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Sep 11, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royce and Anderson
They gave me the same unreal feeling, and OMG moment if you will, years apart from each other. They are my two favorite fighters of all time and it stems from watching Royce at UFC 1 and the things he was doing to people. I thought to myself “this guy is unreal”! Then I was watching Silva vs Leben. I had no clue who Silva was at the time and he was talking about how he’s going to beat Leben. I was thinking to myself “who does this guy think he is?” And then he did what he did and I was in awe, just like I was when I first saw Royce. My buddy who I usually watch the fights with was in Chicago and he called me to ask how the fight went. I said it was unbelievable. He asked if Leben crushed him. I told him “no, the exact opposite. He got crushed. I have never seen anybody like Silva. He was like a ghost in there.” He’s been my favorite ever since.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
by dedstrk316 on Sep 11, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For me personally..
I’m grateful that they’ve taken the time to put a tribute section for Jordan on here.. It show’s that Jordan was the globe’s most iconic sport’s figure ever. Even almost 10 years after his final retirement, he’s still the measure for greatness as to what we expect for our most idolized sports figures. He was the complete supreme being, both from a humanities standpoint & from a sport’s standpoint. He was the ultimate competitor and the ultimate professional. He came to work every single day & never took a night off. He changed the way his sport was looked at. He globalized the brand of basketball. He transcended the sport itself.
I remember still to this day.. Jordan was in his rookie season, He showed up to the Stadium dressed in a suit & tie etc.. At that time in the league, most players would loaf around in shirts & jeans or shorts & sneakers.. He was laughed at by his teammates. When asked why he would come to the game like was was going to a wedding or a boardroom, he replied, This is a business & if you want to be respected as a businessman, you need to act like it.. From that day forward, more and more players and athlete’s now show up and leave in the same manner.. Jordan is against the hip hop branding of sports. He thinks athletes should carry themselves to a higher standard, because they want to be paid as a such.. So they need to carry themselves as classy business men & women when going in the public eye..
As a life long Jordan fan, so much so, I named my first born after him who is a teenager now, I’ve heard just about every single interview Jordan has ever done.. What really stuck out last night was, although we all know behind the scenes he was very hard to be around at times and would cuss you out in a heartbeat, it was the first time on a public forum where we’ve heard Jordan even say a cuss word.. I thought that was very funny and in the context he used it was very amusing..
Not to compare Jordan to MMA.. It should have to go like this.. Taking parts of individual fighters for their distinct traits to compare them to the Michael Jordan of their sport..
Randy for his determination
Anderson Silva for his amazing skill
GSP for his athleticism & public image
Big Nog for his never quit attitude
Lesnar for his charisma & appeal
The reason I leave Fedor off is for a few key things.. Jordan lost, he didn’t win every time. But he lost because he was challenged against better competition and that drove him to be better and excel. He never turned down a challenge, win or lose. Sadly the same can’t be said about Fedor..Jordan’s own self determination and will to win hasn’t been matched in any athlete to date.. As was said last night.. There will never be another Michael Jordan.. There will be glimpses of greatness and athlete’s that excel and surpass his records, but we’ll never see another athlete with the total package to be the greatest at what they do in all of their sport as well as who and how they carry themselves away from the sport as Michael has done throughout his entire career.. His brand is so big on a global scale that his brand is worth more than a billion dollars even without him in the spotlight on the biggest stage.. That’s speaks for the appeal and the way he has carried himself through out his life. The way he broke down every barrier regarding race. He set a standard that has been unmatched and unsurpassed. When we speak of Michael Jordan, we never speak of a black man that played ball.. We speak of the greatest sport’s icon the world has ever known..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
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