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Has Brandon Vera Fallen Victim to Being Afraid to Lose?

Brandon Vera's win over The Ultimate Fighter Season 8 contestant and former IFL fighter Krzysztof Soszynski at UFC 102 on Saturday night was a much needed boost in competition and confidence for Vera. After all, Vera has gone 3-3 in his last six fights since returning to the UFC following a spat with his former manager, Mark Dion. Dion was cleared of any wrongdoings by the CSAC, but in the aftermath of everything that occurred -- Brandon Vera seems to be a man who is now suffering greatly in producing the explosive results he's used to giving fans. His most recent win over Soszynski marks his most significant win since defeating Assuerio Silva and Frank Mir back in 2006.

What exactly can fans surmise to be the problem in Vera's decline in performance? Arguably, we could say that Vera's loss to Fabricio Werdum was simply a top ten opponent who was better than him at the time, and his loss to Keith Jardine could be due to the fact that Vera just wasn't ready for that type of competition following his drop to light heavyweight.

His most revealing fights, however, come from his wins in my opinion. His battle with Reese Andy was labeled as a struggle for Vera due to the weight cut to 205 while his win over Mike Patt was an improvement. One of the problems I had in watching the Andy bout was the fact that the old Vera would have likely knocked out Andy inside five minutes due to the slow, looping shots that Andy threw during the fight. Is it blasphemous to think that the same Vera who choked out Assuerio Silva, knocked out the late Justin Eilers, and put on a Muay Thai clinic on the larger Fabiano Scherner could finish a horribly technical striker in Reese Andy?

Most fans would believe that Vera's style in the cage is indicative of a fighter who has fallen victim to being afraid to lose. Almost everyone attaches the phrase to Tim Sylvia's style of fighting, and those opinions wouldn't be thrown into the dumpster due to Sylvia's late battles in the Octagon. Hugging against the fence to avoid shots while being unwilling to throw clinch shots will get those sorts of "boos" from fans. But what about Brandon Vera?

One could make the argument that due to Vera's 9-0 undefeated reign at the beginning of his career, he's simply looking to string together some solid wins so that he can once again shock the world with a huge win over a top ten opponent in the light heavyweight division. His style, however, hasn't exuded confidence in that destiny ever happening.

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His performance on Saturday night wasn't his best or most spectacular, but it wasn't his worst either. He was unable to truly work his Muay Thai skills in the clinch due to Soszynski's strength, but I found his striking game to be rather bland. Vera used punches for the most part, although they were rather awkward in style. His head movement was solid, but the most lacking part of his game was his leg kicks. While Soszynski has been known to throw some mean kicks of his own, it seemed rather odd that Vera only threw a few. Those few kicks looked like they did some solid damage, but Vera didn't throw enough to set up the few head kicks he actually tried. It seemed as if Vera changed mindsets during the fight in spurts. He'd throw kicks for a minute, then decide it was futile and turn back to angles and punching.

What does Vera need to do in order to become the destructive force he once was in the UFC? It's tough to say. Coming out with guns ablaze could be a bad idea against the tougher competition, but a more aggressive Brandon Vera would be a much more legitimate threat to those opponents than what we've seen lately. I can't quite put my finger on it, but my thoughts would be for Vera to go look at exactly why he was so dominant in the past.

In his previous run, he wasn't afraid to unload barrages of strikes or clinch with anyone in his way. Against heavyweights, I could see a reluctance as they outweighed him, but at light heavyweight -- he should be able to return to that type of form. As his diet cleans up and the cut gets much easier, I'd hope that Vera gains some more power as well. Most importantly however, Vera needs to let go of his gunshy ways and become a student of the game. If he's terribly afraid of being punched out, countering opponents should be one of those important attributes that Vera should study. It's a perplexing question to answer, and I think it's a tough question for anyone to figure out. Hopefully, Vera will find the answer and surprise us.

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where does Vera train?

Its definately possible that he needs a better camp to help him round out his gameplans. He’s still relatively young.

I really want the Vera/ Silva fight to happen (Thiago)

by amadeus on Sep 1, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lloyd Irvin is Vera's coach

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by Kid Nate on Sep 1, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree (so my answer is No)

Vera took care of Soszynski as a stronger more technical fighter. Why does everyone want Tank Abbott? Strong, technical fighters are not boring at least in my opinion and it’s not the better fighter’s fault if the opponent sucks (ala Sliva v Leites)

by HankAtVancouver on Sep 2, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

8-0 start..

Vera said he intentionally kicked less to work on his hands more.. He thought K-Sos would be the type of fighter where he could test out fighting southpaw and to improve his boxing more…

When i watched the fight the first time, it seemed like Vera was trying too hard to showcase his boxing.. then he said that on the interview, and i guess i was right. Didn’t notice that he was trying to improve fighting southpaw the whole time though, I thought it just felt better for him or something.

He said that it was real frustrating to fight K-sos cause he was all awkward and didn’t come in as much as they expected him to do, especially in the third round when he was obviously behind on the score cards.

And to answer your question, it’s a No.

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, that explains why he looked very strange to me.

My main problem is that he seemed to have his mind set at times on kicking, then would just stop… like he went back to a gameplan of punching. I understand that he wants to improve that portion of his game, but doing it in fight mode seems rather odd. I would have thought he would have sparred extensively in southpaw until he was comfortable before doing so because he didn’t look incredibly comfortable on Saturday.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

definately trial by fire

i like that he’s willing to test himself in a fight

by amadeus on Sep 1, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think he knew (or thinks) that K-sos isn't really a threat to him

and it would be a good chance to showcase his boxing.. but for some reason it ended up looking all awkward.. (he explains it on the vid that i linked bellow)

Also, he always switches from southpaw to orthodox, but i guess he wanted to try and fight southpaw the whole time..

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, did you get the feeling that it looked like Keith Jardine?

That’s all I could think about when I saw the way his arms were moving outside K-Sos’s reach.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know… he just looked like Jardine when he was on the outside with his arms gangling out to his sides. Not the whole time, just as specific moments.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you notice the touching of the gloves from Jardine

It was awkward lol, I think Rogan even shouted it out.

by xbuckeyex05 on Sep 1, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jardine is just an awkward dude. He has a porn star nickname, looks like a creepy biker, fights like an orangutan, and looks even creepier with glasses on.

by amadeus on Sep 1, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By creepy biker, I assume you mean “lawn gnome.”

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by Richard Wade on Sep 1, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Rogan mentioned that. I wonder if he’s socially awkward as well.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i doubt it..

he seems like a funny guy in some interviews.. There’s one where he talked about possibly doing a techno viking entrance. haha.

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The octagon is no place to experiment. If he wanted to train, he should do it at the gym.

by George Lucas on Sep 1, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES

I have never really been a huge Vera fan and anytime his fights come up most of the people around me mutter things like, this is going to the judges, i’m going for a smoke, this is gonna be a long one etc. He is not the exciting fighter he once was and I think he should be relegated to the undercard until he has gathered up some steam, beaten some of the upper level fighters with consistency and without going to the judges. Once that happens, i’ll gladly tune in.

by Annie83 on Sep 1, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

With the title alone...

Yes he has. He’s been holding back because of fear of losing. I’m a huge Vera fan, but have to admit that after his back to back losses he’s been very careful since. No doubt in my mind he’ll be back to the Vera that was 8-0, bad ass looking for the finish.

by poundnground on Sep 1, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

him looking tentative, was explained there..

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That explains one fight, but the pattern he’s established against Sylvia, Andy, Jardine, Patt and now Kryzstof is one of pure timidity against lukewarm fighters.

by George Lucas on Sep 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t want to make excuses for the other fights, because he did look bad against Sylvia, andy and Jardine..

Probably cause Patt sucks, but Vera looked reallyyyyyyyyyyy good against him, so i don’t know what you’re talking about there.. And about K-sos, sure he looked gun shy and awkward at times, but he did look way better there than against andy, jardine and sylvia.

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 2, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t imagine that the UFC is happy with Vera. Can anyone remember another high profile fighter receiving a pay cut (100K + 100K down to 30K + 30K)?

None of Vera’s victories at LHW have been impressive or even fun to watch, and he had the only crappy fight of UFC 102’s televised bouts. K-Sos was just begging to get knocked out with those slow, awkward punches and Vera just didn’t engage.

Amadeus’ idea for a Vera/Silva fight isn’t a bad one, but I have a better one: send Vera to the undercard or the main card of UFN events. Let him earn a spot on a big card.

by MMAEruption on Sep 1, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The other issue, which you hit on, is the fact that his exciting results are now becoming boring decisions. And as we all know, the UFC hates those types of fights.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT?!

You’re gonna tell me the Mike Patt fight wasn’t fun or impressive? He was way out of Vera’s league, but saying that NON at LHW is false.

by poundnground on Sep 1, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patt was a can,

and i don’t know about you guys, but, Leg kick KOs are fucking fun to watch if you ask me..

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My big problem was Andy. That guy was looping slow ass punches over his head, and Vera just stood there in a daze as he avoided them.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vera looked really bad there..

He should’ve wrecked andy, and there were flashes of his true potential, especially on the first round, but the guy looked real tired after the first 5 mins.. haha.

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BUT

he also looked bad physically. The dude looked too skinny and I’m gonna agree that the weight cut affected him in that performance. The problem now is him being afraid to lose.

by poundnground on Sep 1, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he is fighting not to lose. He’s trying to be a counter fighter but he isn’t countering much at all.

by filipinomix2oo0 on Sep 1, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

put him in with Thiago Silva, and MAKE him counter. If not, he’s going to sleep.

Personally i think the UFC is babying him too much

by amadeus on Sep 1, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

babying him?

really? Frank Mir, Tim Sylvia, Fabricio Werdum, Keith Jardine..

..the only “can” he was fed was Mike Patt, in a “if you still look bad against this guy, you’re fired” fight..

Hamill, his original opponent, is ranked higher than him.. K-Sos and Reese Andy were fights that had to be put on real short notice..

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

K-Sos and Reese Andy were fights that had to be put on real short notice..

Really? I would have thought he’d have plenty of notice for fighting Andy since he was dropping to 205 from HW…and I’m pretty sure Andy was the original opponent.

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by The_Gaijin on Sep 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah...

quite right good sir, good call. Surprising he would accept such short notice to make the cut (not sure if he’d ever done it for mma before), but I guess he was always pretty small for HW and looking to atone for his recent performances/shenanigans and get into Dana’s good graces.

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by The_Gaijin on Sep 1, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I personally would love to see him fight Thiago, but does he deserve that much of a step-up in competition after a boring fight like that?

by filipinomix2oo0 on Sep 1, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if the UFC signed that…

Vera could be damn sure that it’s a put up or GTFO fight.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's why i like that fight..

Cause even those who hate vera would love to see that fight..

And i know a lot of people disagree with me, but i personally think Vera’s style matches up well against Thiago..

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’d also like to see Griffin vs. Vera

by amadeus on Sep 1, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that fight, i think would be a lotttttt harder for Vera to win IMO..

Forrest is BIG, and would negate vera’s reach advantage that he usually has.. plus Forrest is a pretty technical striker too.. so that poses a bit of a problem

Maybe he could do it, but i think it’s a much harder fight, stylistically than one against thiago..

but that’s just me..

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd like it for forrest as well, that guy has got be disheartened

He needs to win against a solid fighter, someone that won’t knock him into a marathon

by amadeus on Sep 1, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

I don’t understand why the UFC drops guys who come to bring it and have talent, but lose, and keeps certain people who show talent but are willing to fight boring fights just to win.

Thats definately been an argument mentioned before, no need to elaborate i guess

by amadeus on Sep 1, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he doesn’t. It’s practically a step down for Thiago, IMO.

by Hardcase on Sep 1, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every sport has these kinds of athletes; guys who are just stuffed to the gills with potential and raw talent, and they show flashes, but for whatever reason, have a hell of a time developing consistency. They’re frustrating to manage and even more frustrating to root for.

by woomikee on Sep 1, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AMEN brother.

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by The_Gaijin on Sep 1, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm… sounds like my current most hated Chicago Cub… Milton Bradley.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh he's developed consistency alright

Just not the kind you’re probably looking for….

by woomikee on Sep 1, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Consistently being booed in my household is about as consistent as it gets.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least he’s only on the hook until 2011….

Wait, this violates rule 4, doesn’t it? Forget I spoke at all

by woomikee on Sep 1, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but Soriano is on the hook until… I gouge my eyes out with darts.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see your a Cubs fan too. That contract Soriano has is practically untradeable especially after how pathetic he has looked at the plate and in left. And don’t even get me started on Bradley..

by filipinomix2oo0 on Sep 1, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It makes my head spin how bad they are.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 1, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it blasphemous to think that the same Vera who choked out Assuerio Silva, knocked out the late Justin Eilers, and put on a Muay Thai clinic on the larger Fabiano Scherner could finish a horribly horrible technical striker in Reese Andy?

There – I think that’s a better description of Andy! :)

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by The_Gaijin on Sep 1, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Has Brandon Vera Fallen Victim to Being Afraid to Lose?”

Yes, I believe so. While one could make valid excuses for many of his individual fights, like cage rust against Sylvia as well as the injury, criticism over the Werdum fight being stopped prematurely, or not having enough time to prep for Reese Andy…when you look at all his fights together since returning to the UFC, you see a Brandon Vera that has turned away from being the aggressive fighter he once was.

by Hardcase on Sep 1, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he used to be confident…cocky really. i dont know what happened. it seemed to happen around the tim sylvia fight. he broke his hand in that one i think. but that’s not an excuse, ask Faber.

perhaps he worries about getting hurt. i really dont know the reason, i only know that i expect boring fights from him.

there was also that armed robbery thing that happened to him…that and other personal issues seems as likely as anything.

by Headkick on Sep 1, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I said this elsewhere.

He sort of reminded me a bit of Anderson Silva fighting Thales leites. Except I think that Vera just doesn’t have the instinct on when to move in to finish the fight. I thought he did fine in the first, mid-way through the second it was clear he had the advantage, but he kept fighting like it was in the first round, instead of moving in for the kill. I think that with experience he’ll hopefully get the instinct to move in and do more than the quick two and three combo’s and actually move in more aggressively when it’s warranted.

by Dooda on Sep 1, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Truth is, Brandon Vera has fallen victim to not being as great as originally billed. Just a good fighter. It’s that simple. He’ll win some, and he’ll lose some. Frankincense would beat him 9 out of 10 times and that was his claim to fame.

Oh, and how good do the Dodgers look with Ethier instead of Bradley?

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