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DirecTV Drops Versus, Blames Comcast

Luke Thomas wrote about the problems between DirecTV and Versus, stating that both parties needed to reach an agreement before August 31st. The deadline has passed and it seems like nothing was settled, meaning Versus and in turn, the WEC, gets dropped. 

DirecTV confirms this on twitter, but blames it all on Comcast:Versus_logo_medium

To confirm: Comcast has pulled Versus, a channel we have long supported. Tell Comcast its time their pattern of unreasonable demands ends.

Many asked about terms. DIRECTV already pays Versus more than any independent distributor and yet Comcast seeks a 20%+ hike on that rate

We offered to carry Versus through Sept while talks continued -- Comcast declined.

DirecTV has more on this on their official site:

Comcast, the largest cable company in the U.S., owns Versus. They regularly try to charge us amounts well in excess of what is fair and reasonable to carry the programming they own. Their reason is obvious: they want to stifle competition from DIRECTV. Comcast's unfair terms undermines DIRECTV's ability to offer our customers the best possible value. If we simply accept these terms, we would have to absorb the unreasonable costs Comcast wants to charge us, and in turn we will be forced to increase the rates our customers pay. We do not want this to happen. In fact, Comcast has forced us to remove Versus because we would not accept the terms they demanded.

Our contract with Comcast expired August 31 and we were unable to reach agreement on a renewal. Comcast was not only demanding renewal terms that did not reflect market value for the channel but also demanding carriage terms that were discriminatory. Comcast forced us to drop Versus unless we agreed to their unreasonable terms.

Now this is all from DirecTV, and we haven't heard from side of Comcast, so I suggest taking it with a grain of salt. For MMA fans though, what's more important than pointing fingers or blaming the networks, is finding out what happens to the WEC.

Do they stay with Versus and hope DirecTV and Comcast settle their issues? Do they get a new TV deal? Or is now the time to fold them over to the UFC?

HT: tvbythenumbers

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Bad news all around. Seems like it is pretty difficult to have HDNet and Versus at the same time now.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 1, 2009 3:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now tell your guys to get the WEC! haha. :)

…This makes me really want a merger with the UFC.. the WEC has most of the top BW and FWs in the world and it would be a shame if they won’t get the exposure they deserve..

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WEC wants to be kept as its own entity, whether they focus on the lighter weights or they become the development league for the UFC in all weight classes. The WEC had plans for them to hold events in Mexico and the PI, a couple of PPV’s next year, etc. It would be a huge loss for them if they just merged with the UFC. This is what they are trying to figure out right now.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 1, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and PI?

where are you getting this? Don’t you get my hopes up! hahaha.

by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m saying those were the plans, though, I don’t think those are their plans anymore.
Sorry. =(

by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 1, 2009 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LA Times
According to Versus, it is now seen in 75 million homes. Besides college football and the NHL, Versus is the home of the Tour de France, IRL auto racing and cage fighting.

Robert Mercer, director of public relations for DirecTV, said: "Versus’ overall ratings are poor and have not increased nearly enough to justify what we’re paying them, let alone the significant increase they’re asking for.

“It is a significant rate hike and the deal is discriminatory because Versus is not offering the same package options as other distributors.”

Versus is owned by Comcast, a cable carrier that competes with DirecTV. Versus responded in a statement released Friday that said it has added “many marquee properties” and has become “the fastest-growing sports cable network in the country.”

According to Nielsen ratings numbers, Versus is averaging 3,000 more viewers at any given time since rebranding itself from the Outdoor Life Network to Versus in 2006-2007. On DirecTV, Versus ranks 61st among 74 English-advertising supported cable networks.

Duane Lindberg, who handles the Pac-10 television contracts, said he had been unaware of the DirecTV-Versus dispute. “It’s in our best interests to have Versus be as widely distributed as possible,” he said.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 1, 2009 3:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!

I’m getting Verizon FiOS installed on Thursday and I dropped DirecTV in favor of FiOS. Whooo!

http://twitter.com/FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Sep 1, 2009 3:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does Verizon have HDNET?

by SplitBreast on Sep 1, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe they do.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 1, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh how I long for Fios.

by szucconi on Sep 1, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FiOS, ATT U-Verse, and Dish Network all carry HDNet, Versus, Showtime, Spike, etc.
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 1, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

None are available where I am. Fios is inching closer, but I can have comcast or nothing. I hate my life. Also, comcast is going to drop analog signal so TV that are not on a cable box will stop working in nov/dec time frame. I have a box and a digital TV, but all the surplus TVs I have in my house will be garbage. Not worth having them to watch as I fold laundry or preform other tasks. Plus my TV Tuner card will be fairly worthless. Thats four TVs to the scrap heap thanks to Comcast, who advertised before the over the air conversion that they were continuing the analog signal and not 6 months later are dropping it. BS.

Also you may be confused as to why dish would not be available. I live in a condo and my balcony doesn’t face the right direction for directv or dish, so I am screwed by comcast because they can. Who likes comcast, no one.

by szucconi on Sep 1, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least you have Comcast

Some of us are stuck with satellite as our ONLY choice, and then only 2 companies to choose from. Comcast signed a 15-year exclusivity deal with my county, and they refuse to wire almost 40% of it. Comcast sucks so bad…and now they’re STILL managing to screw me over without me even being their customer. First, they won’t my money, now they’re taking away my access to Jose Aldo and Mike Brown. I hate that company.

Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "

by duck on Sep 1, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are NOT Comcastic.
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Sep 1, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. They have everything DirecTV offers except NFL Sunday Ticket.

http://twitter.com/FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Sep 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is why, even without versus, DirecTV is by far #1…at least for sports fans…

DirecTV also has the tennis and golf mix channels, free nascar hotpass, a million extra channels so you can see every Champions League match and extra channels for Premier League…plus every FSN nationwide, every local sports channel (like sunsports in Florida, yet I live in Wa State)…so no one really matches what they have…

by Reaser16 on Sep 1, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been an NFL Sunday Ticket subscriber for years. The price is no longer worth it. DirecTV is too damn expensive. I don’t care if I can’t watch Tennis and Golf. Doesn’t bother me. Love NASCAR, but don’t need the HotPass. Love soccer but I don’t need to watch the Champions League. Fifa09 quenches my thirst for soccer enough. The FSN channels are nice but you have to realize that you cannot watch the baseball games on those channels unless it’s in your local market. You need MLB Extra Innings for that, which is something Verizon FiOS does carry and something I’m going to invest in.

DirecTV is going downhill. Their prices are absurd.

http://twitter.com/FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Sep 1, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh, being able to watch every football game and get the quick 30 min replay of every game, etc, is definitely worth it…

as for the rest of the sports, that’s what you like and don’t like, I like all sports so it’s all needed…especially the Champions league…and I also pay for NBA, MLS, MLB and NHL season PPV packages, along with NFL, setup best on DirecTV, so they aren’t going downhill, but ya, $200 plus a month for TV seems ridiculous, but watching sports is what I spend my time doing…

by Reaser16 on Sep 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love sports to death but I can’t justify spending that much watching the sports I love. NFL Sunday Ticket is just too expensive now. I’m a Steelers fan on the west coast so I relied on Sunday Ticket but the expensive nature of it drove me away from DirecTV. I have to wonder how many other people will start going down that road, as well.

http://twitter.com/FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Sep 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t know Comcast owned Versus, I guess that means I wont have to worry about Comcast dropping it.

by Graven Image on Sep 1, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just fold into the UFC already and get the fighters some better pay!

by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Sep 1, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ONE OF THE FEW WINNERS IN THIS MESS= ME!!!

DISH is offering up Versus free for the next 3 months. No more going to a buddy’s house for WEC! Well, until December, unless they bump the channel up from the 250 to 100 package…..

by GoldenOldie on Sep 1, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whew...

Good thing I have U-Verse.

Twitter: @JohnPinano
Winners do what losers don't.

by Johpin on Sep 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Same here, but its expensive.

We might change.

by Meshuggeth on Sep 1, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got free Versus HD for some reason here, I am happy =D

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Sep 1, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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