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Report: Forrest Griffin NOT Injured in Loss to Anderson Silva at UFC 101

Griffin_medium Wow, big news from MMA Weekly:

Reports surfaced on Sunday that Griffin had suffered a jaw injury and that was the reason for his hasty exit, but MMAWeekly.com was able to confirm with representatives from Zinkin Entertainment, Griffin's management group, that he is physically fine following the Saturday night fight.

Griffin suffered no broken jaw and he is physically okay, said the Zinkin representative, but emotionally he is definitely not dealing well with the loss.

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That’s messed up.

Keep firing Assholes!

Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

by Ubernoober on Aug 9, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, I don’t know what to say.

by Riney on Aug 9, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Im pissed

His book is all about how manly he is, then he gets whooped and runs out of the octagon like a baby. That’s -15 manly points Forrest.

by Chuck Sakuraba on Aug 9, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

To be fair, he books also jokes about the very unmanly things he has done.

by Chris Barton on Aug 9, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re just going to ignore the part of that SAME question where he clowns himself for crying like a bitch after the Jardine fight?

by Chris Barton on Aug 10, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least he didn’t spoon Anderson Silva.

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by jemaleddin on Aug 10, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you?

I might.

("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)

by mythbuster on Aug 10, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

HELLS TO THE YES.

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by jemaleddin on Aug 10, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson fucks on the first date.

by Cunny on Aug 11, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really hope hes ok mentally. Getting completely embarrassed like that and then immediately running away from the octagon is going to be hard to recover from.

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by Day Man on Aug 9, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone take him to talk to a shrink. Gotta take care of the brain area.

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by a tommy point on Aug 9, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t understand how Griffin got KO’d by that jab until I heard he broke his jaw. Now I definitely do not understand. I guess he got him right on the button. Hopefully Griffin puts this behind him.

by steveoc24 on Aug 9, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he should be more worried about his fans puttin it behind him

by Krimson on Aug 9, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest doesn’t give a shit what anybody thinks.

by steveoc24 on Aug 9, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t really know how he puts it behind him. The people who thought this was no lose for him were wrong; he found the only way to lose and took it when he rushed out of the cage. How can you plausibly give Griffin a title shot after he got destroyed like that? He’s out of plausible title contention until Machida is gone. He’s too small to move up but to big to move down a weight class. On top of that, all his fans are butthurt because he sure didn’t look like the Rocky-esque scrapper they thought he was. So this was the worst possible result. He should be upset. He’s really fucked. And he did in fact get treated like Silva’s gawky, uncoordinated younger brother. So all around its pretty ugly.

by toxic on Aug 9, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least he got an undeserved $60K Fight of the Night bonus…

by madiq on Aug 9, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was there....

if you saw the rest of the undercard fights you would understand why that fight won fight of the night.

9 really bad fights, 2 really good ones. Overall, not a good card.

by Nick Travaglini on Aug 10, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sotiropoulos v Roop was nice, I thought.

by Cunny on Aug 11, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

He could probably move up to HW, he is pretty ginormous. I don’t think he needs to, he got embarrassed by the best fighter in the world. It sucks and it sets him back, but really a couple wins and people will forget.

by Chris Barton on Aug 9, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think the standup Forrest has shown would give him any shot at all against Lesnar? Christ, it would be a felony to set that fight up.

by toxic on Aug 9, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’d have the same chance as a lot of HW’s against Lesnar.

by Chris Barton on Aug 10, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

he lunged into it

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by Kid Nate on Aug 9, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup, i saw that,

his head just twisted back after running into anderson’s jab,

imo, it’ll be a while before the ufc puts him into title contention, IF IT DOES AT ALL, and forrest would have to be spectacular in winning,

man, he was outclassed

by theblade on Aug 10, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

He pulled a LeBron

after Anderson Silva pulled a dwight howard

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Aug 9, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

The only difference being that LeBron was supposed to win. Forrest was only being picked to win because since he has been the underdog before, he could do it again. Anderson Silva found that to be flawed logic.

by xDieseLx on Aug 9, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a devout Orlando Magic fan since I started watching basketball,

+100 points. The metaphor’s a bit off, but I’ll ignore that.

by Seandq on Aug 10, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

If that’s the case I really don’t know what to say about it. Forrest has some real issues.

by who me on Aug 9, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

If I got dominated like that I would probably want to run away too. To prepare for months and get embarrassed like that…I would need some personal time away from people.

by Tonley on Aug 9, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

To be a proud “unbreakable” fighter, who has a claim to fame of putting anyone in a dog fight even if he loses and then to go out like an amateur clown…

That has to be a hard pill to swallow.

by Chris Barton on Aug 9, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might want to run off but then I’m not a professional fighter, it seems a bit disrespectful to your opponent if you can’t even stay in there a couple of minutes for them to finish the after match announcements and interviews. I mean he should be upset about it but guys lose badly all the time and they hang tough in the cage at least long enough to respect the other guy, hell most of them make it to the press conference and talk about how they got their asses whooped later on. I can understand the emotions here, heck this one will really be a tough one to get over but man you got to at least keep it in check long enough to get through the decision being announced before you run off and hide.

by who me on Aug 10, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it isn’t exactly unprecedented for Forrest. For someone who is so self-effacing in interviews, he really takes losing hard.

by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure, in the end, he feels the same way really. Anderson seemed to empathize with him, I think the fans should try to as well.

by Chris Barton on Aug 10, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I empathize with him but I’m just not going to condone his actions in running out like that. I was willing to let it pass (and even defend the guy) when it was for medical treatment but if it just was because he broke down and ran off then it is a different deal entirely. Guys lose all the time (half the guys on every card) but they suck it up and at least get through the ending announcements before they head off to the back.

by who me on Aug 10, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

So Forrest got hit so hard he couldn’t take it anymore. Then he realized how embarrassing the loss was, and didn’t want to face the music. What’s so hard for people to understand about that?

by madiq on Aug 9, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Forrest is one of the most beloved fighters out there. It just doesn’t compute.

Keep firing Assholes!

Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

by Ubernoober on Aug 9, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes being loved has nothing to do with strength of character.

by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i’m honestly surprised it doesn’t happen more often… with all the preparation and sacrifice that goes into training for these guys. gotta be a tough pill to swallow. i’m sure i wouldn’t be very level-headed in his shoes… especially if i just got my bell rung. and being interviewed about it in front of a few thousand people wouldn’t be on the top of my to-do list, either.

that’s not to say it’s not good sportmanship to take your lumps like a man… just dont think his actions were as shocking as some others do.

by woooburn on Aug 9, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

True story. Also imagine that you reached the highest level of your sport. You came from nothing and basically climbed the mountain and convinced yourself that you could beat anyone in the world. You train for months and months and get in the ring and are faced with the realization that you are not near the same level as the very best and that you probably never will be. Pretty freaking awful realization to reach in front of millions of people, especially since it came while/after taking a pretty solid beating.

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by Day Man on Aug 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Where’s Robert Drysdale to console him?

by FlyByKnight on Aug 9, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is Robert Drysdale?

by FlyByKnight on Aug 9, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

...one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world

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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 10, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was quoting Silva…

by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

-1 Brent

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by Day Man on Aug 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is that an Ayn Rand reference?

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by Scott C. Broussard on Aug 10, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

“É um bobão”

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by J. B. Maddox on Aug 10, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Drysdale woke the sleeping giant by saying that he “knew” Forrest was going to submit Anderson.

by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Drysdale knew standing would be bad.

by Riney on Aug 10, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

No Fighter Bashing

Please keep your comments respectful.
No matter what you think of him, Forrest has the heart to get in the cage and on the public stage.

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by Kid Nate on Aug 9, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

That being said...

he quit last night

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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 10, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was waving his arms to stop the fight when he hit the canvas, wasn’t he?

by steveoc24 on Aug 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Sokonojudo on Aug 10, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would laugh if I wasn’t so down right now.

Keep firing Assholes!

Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

by Ubernoober on Aug 10, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

But he did get floored 3 times, which would end the typical K-1 bout.

I wish he hadn’t scooted right on out of the arena, but I’m not sure how much more of that bout we needed to see.

It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.

by capital L on Aug 10, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on how is asking where drysdale at constitute fighter bashing? I was actually wondering the same thing since he predicted Forrest to submit anderson. I mean I would like to hear his thoughts now. Dude I have seen worse on this site that wasn’t punished as fighter bashing.

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by xtremecouture on Aug 10, 2009 12:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

fair enough

I’m just touchy about Drysdale. sorry. been a long weekend.

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by Kid Nate on Aug 10, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

Drysdale “is not” a fighter.. so how could it be construed as fighter bashing anyways ??

Not trying to be a dick, just wanting to clarify what the exact term indicates and who falls in that catagory..

I think his comment was relative to the topic and I too would be interested in what Drysdale has to say.. Maybe since Forrest never got a chance to get his game plan in action, I think it’s safe to hear from his coaches what exactly his game plan would have been ???

:)

by MMAuthority on Aug 10, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

poor guy…

"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"

by blubber_guard on Aug 9, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  


Forrest get well, but boy did you get destroyed.

You need to write a “Chicken Soup for People who got their Asses Kicked.”

by Sokonojudo on Aug 9, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

foreword by

arm chair internet quarter backs?

"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"

by blubber_guard on Aug 10, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was hoping more for a Dedication, but a foreword will suffice as long as it is addressed to All MMA television viewers.

by Sokonojudo on Aug 10, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

almost crashed my car when i got a text form my buddy syain the only ground game forrest implemented was by the weebles

"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"

by blubber_guard on Aug 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

So sick. Imagine any type of normal human being attempting to fight Anderson.

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by Day Man on Aug 10, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theres an episode of Bully Beatdown i want to see

by Rabbit915 on Aug 10, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think counted five punches that Forrest whiffed on.

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by Mike Fagan on Aug 10, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you believe that CompuStrike counted him with 13 arm strikes landed?

by FlyByKnight on Aug 10, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they count punches that graze too

Watching it live, I thought Forrest landed maybe 1 solid punch, if that….but that was it.

by MickDawg on Aug 10, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

They do. Even the CompuStrike summary said there was a ton of grazing shots.

by FlyByKnight on Aug 10, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fightmetric said he only hit 1 to the head.

by Phildo on Aug 10, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe they only count actual landing shots, not grazing or glancing blows.

By far the most insane statistic I’ve seen was Rashad Evans landing only 4 of 48 arm strikes against Machida. He was 2/28 in the second round.

In fact, Evans landed just seven total strikes in the fight. Three, obviously, were leg kicks. Better yet, in his last two fights, opponents are just 9 of 59 against Machida in terms of standing arm strikes.

by FlyByKnight on Aug 10, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dang.

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by Rundownloser on Aug 10, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I really thought Forrest was going to go in there and give Anderson a fight. A back n fourth war that would end in a decision. I feel really bad for him. :( I think he ran out of there because Anderson just really made him look bad. Just like he kept saying in interviews about Anderson’s other opponents. This time he made Forrest look bad and Forrest made it worse for himself.

GSP: I pulled my groin.

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by xFenixKnightx on Aug 10, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I gotta say, the way this has developed is pretty depressing. Forrest is the type of guy that runs hot and cold.

He’ll be back.

Keep firing Assholes!

Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

by Ubernoober on Aug 10, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Well we can guarantee that the UFC isn’t about to let him go.

It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.

by capital L on Aug 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of hot and cold… maybe they’ll rematch him with jardine now.

by woooburn on Aug 10, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe if Thiago Silva beats Jardine…

by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

something just doesn't seem right w/ forrest

initially after forrest fell from the 3rd punch/jab i was incredulous that that could be enough to finish my beloved forrest who previously has shown he will get hit and hit and keep coming for more. i just honestly couldn’t believe that the entirety of the fight was truly forrest’s best and that something more had to be at play here.

while i don’t think he would ever take a dive and there has been much discussion over that, i can’t get past the fact that in forrest’s last two fights, something just doesn’t seem right w/ him or how he lost. i have watched both the Silva fight & Rashad fight over again and again and in Rashad’s fight, he was seemingly doing very well against him until being taken down. and before you knew it, rashad was grounding/pounding him out. forrest’s guard or inability to pull rashad into it and defend at all still raises questions in my mind and despite forrest saying he wasn’t tapping, i believe he was in that fight.

in this fight, i realize he was tagged by silva before the jab and was missing some of his shots but w/o the jaw issue really now being a factor, it’s hard to reconcile forrest losing in this fashion when i can remember his shogun & ortiz fights and even rampage and bonnar where he took way more punishment, where he was able to take quite a bit of punishment and still give back hard and didn’t seem to almost resign himself to the fact that he lost at the end.

i don’t know if this will ever be explained, and i truly love forrest as a fighter and respect anderson’s unbelievable abilities, but again, i rewatch it and rewatch it and i still can’t help but think there just seems to be something up w/ forrest, whether it be physical or emotional, i don’t know; i just hope he can return to form and move past this loss.

by theflyingtsunami on Aug 10, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i just hope he can return to form and move past this loss.

Wait, you didn’t know? Silva has ended Forrest’s career.

GSP: I pulled my groin.

Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!

by xFenixKnightx on Aug 10, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this. Forrest has been in some real wars before, he usually shines in those types of situations but this really seemed to be a mental collapse at the end.

by who me on Aug 10, 2009 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

The key is..

He never took “flush” shots on the button in those previous fights.. He took a good uppercut from Jackson, but Jackson didn’t follow it up with the speed Silva had.. He let Forrest have the needed time to recover because he tried to go to the ground and pound Forrest out..

This was a case of Silva having a more precise striking game and “not” allowing Forrest enough time to recover properly.. He took “3” solid shots right on the chin.. Each shot in succession was on the button and dropped him.. Your chin can only take so many of those before you shut down.. I would also argue that Silva “could” quite possibly have more power in his hands than the above mentioned.. Mental or not, Forrest was defeated.. He wasn’t looking for a way out, He got knocked out.. Anyone that watches the fight can clearly see that Forrest took hard shots.. He got dropped and knocked out.. His reaction after the jab was arguably uncontrollable.. He was “out of it”.. He didnt have his wit’s behind him and acted out on natural instinct.. His eyes were glazed up and rolling.. It was textbook knock out.. You dont have to be asleep, to be out… He lost his control for motor function..

by MMAuthority on Aug 10, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait!!!

I think I just figured it out. Forrest must have lost some kind of bet. He said "If I get KO’d in the 1st rd I’ll run straight to the locker room!

GSP: I pulled my groin.

Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!

by xFenixKnightx on Aug 10, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

My money is on the Rocky III defense. His longtime, crotchety trainer collapsed in the locker room before the fight and Forrest was distracted in the ring and tried to get back to the locker room to tell his dying trainer that he had won the fight.

by Stanlee on Aug 10, 2009 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

His long time crotchety trainer is Randy. He didn’t look to bad in that suit with the blond.

by Nick Travaglini on Aug 10, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes these things happen. Its hard to know what was going on inside his head. Those first two knockdowns could have sent his head spinning. You guys remember when travis wiuff knocked out fujita with a jab?

by Yasnian on Aug 10, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s not that common for likeable normal seemingly relaxed people to have issues going on beneath the facade. When Forrest was on TUF he destroyed a door just because Page said he’d bet his whole purse their fight wouldn’t go to a decision. I couldn’t understand that reaction either. Then there was the Jardine deal. Similar to the guy that’s your best friend one second, then he’s freaking out the next.

by Dooda on Aug 10, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions  

It wasn’t Jacksons comment, it was something… one of the fighters, the one with good striking and zero ground game, said to him after the fight.

by Shaun32887 on Aug 10, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

c'mon

those doors are made of balsa wood. GSP could break one with his groin. Plus, what’s a cheap easy way to make a nice juicy teaser for the next ep? Punch a door.

by Grappo on Aug 11, 2009 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Co-Sign

Im a keyboard warrior like the rest of ya’all , I don’t think anyone here needs to say anything about Forrest’s mental toughness . . .

Yeah, that basically sums it up, but it is going to be very interesting to see how this all plays out.

by VeeisAnimated on Aug 10, 2009 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with you 100%!!!!

Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit.

by mma is #1 on Aug 10, 2009 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely put.

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by Benicio on Aug 10, 2009 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're not funny joelman or on point

first of all, no one, at least me is criticizing him leaving the octagon, in fact my post didn’t mention that in particular. second of all, if you watched the same fight we all did and saw the fashion in which forrest lost and his subsequent actions, it is a bit bizarre and certainly different than most of his previous fights, other than the jardine loss post cage mia.

knowing forrest how we all do as fans after having watched him repeatedly and knowing the type of person he seems to be, we are simply expressing our concern, wonder, disbelief, whatever you want to call it, about what occurred. the way he lost and the shot that did it does raise some questions to me about his mental state, whether they be correct or not. i don’t think he’s not mentally tough in general, nor probably do the others who have expressed similar thoughts. that however, is the key, we are commenting on the overall performance and the way he lost, not just trashing the guy outright. in fact, my post at least, says that i am a forrest fan and hope that he can move past this tough loss.

this has nothing to do w/ people being keyboard warriors and talking smack, it’s having the freedom to have intelligent discussion about a fighter who most of us are fans of, or at least have opinions of especially against a top opponent like anderson silva. i think most people would express the same thoughts should this have been other well known and popular fighters. don’t judge just b/c you think nothing of it when people are simply having discussions.

by theflyingtsunami on Aug 11, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

schooled

he owes Anderson Silva an apology for not respecting him after the fight … it wouldn’t hurt Forrest to apologize to his fans also, NOT for the fight but his actions after the fight.

by DaveTheGayGuy on Aug 10, 2009 7:13 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

yes and apologize to his mommy and daddy and to baby jess

by JoelMan on Aug 10, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i meant baby jesus but baby jess is fine too

by JoelMan on Aug 10, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what's the real story?

I really want to know what actually happened in the fight. There is no way…I don’t care if it was even Fedor throwing it….. there is no way that little patty-cake jab KO’d Forrest. Something else was up. I thought maybe Forrest was just out on his feet, but I didn’t see any other shots where I was like “oh damn…it’s over”, unless those couple times he got knocked down he was actually KO’d and just bounced right back up.

by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Two things.

First, Forrest was hurt and hurt bad before that last exhange. Watching how he came forward, just tossing his arms out, he was fighting off of instinct.

Second, that little jab spun Forrests head sideways if you watch the slow mo. It may not have looked like alot of effort on Anderson’s part, but the impact on Forrest looked devistating.

As to why Forrest gave up, beyond the obvious fact that he was completely outclassed, is beyond me and disappointing given what his credit as a fighter is made up of.

Frankly, two things stuck out for me in that fight. First, Anderson’s precision is just incredible. His striking is just amazing, not because of his power (which is apparently more than enough) but because his punches land exactly where he wants them to. Second, what truely makes him just insane is this uncanny ability to judge distance. Unlike most strikers in MMA, he hovers just outside of his opponent’s range and is able to maintain that distance until he is ready to strike. Its amazing to watch him not flinch as a strike comes in because he knows it is going to fall an inch or two short. Amazing.

by Razreshat on Aug 10, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that. Anderson Silva is excellent at judging distance. What makes it even better for him is his long limbs. The only other person that has that kind of ability is Lyoto Machida. That kind of begs the question- why do I love Machida and hate Silva? I never thought about that before.

by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

"begs the question" doesn't mean what you think it means...

I often wonder why people don’t think about the fact that Machida and Silva have honed and sharpened each other’s abilities, and might have no desire to show the rest of the the MMA world how to break their respective defenses. Anderson Silva knew a year ago that fans were more enamored with seeing him challenge for a title than his boy Machida, and stated plainly that he wanted no part of it, because, in his words, “that title belongs to Lyoto.” Why anyone would want to break their pact, and force one fighter to shatter the myth of the other is beyond me. When Anderson retires, he’ll be a legend; why would Anderson want to derail Machida’s path to legendary status along the way? Why would Machida want to undermine Silva’s legend, knowing the debt they owe each other in establishing each other’s greatness?

I get that we as fans would want to see who the better fighter is, but understand that that’s our selfishness, more than it is anything that the sport needs. As to why you love Machida and hate Silva, I suspect it’s because of how you view them. Anderson’s supreme confidence is off-putting and threatening, while Machida’s humility is soothing.

by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beating Silva or Machida is going to take a hell of a lot more than just watching someone do it.

Those guys have a lot more than just the ability to counterstrike or find range—- they have total tactical awareness. Everything from head to foot is working together, finding that perfect place where they can strike without being struck.

It’s like watching a chess game; Lyoto and Silva are planning 10 moves ahead, Forrest and Evans and the rest of their victims are planning 3 moves ahead. It’s no wonder they are perpetually getting clowned.

And as for why they should fight: because it would be the greatest MMA fight in history, and if those two really want challenges, it looks like they need to fight each other to get it.

by toxic on Aug 10, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh. If you’re going with that logic, let’s have Anderson beat GSP, and Machida beat Brock Lesnar, first, so that there can be no doubt about those two being #1 and #2 in the World, pound for pound.

by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Machida beating Brock??

The day that happens is the day I hit the 150+ mega millions jackpot….which is NEVER.

by BNTHIS on Aug 11, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

he charged

into the punch. the power was coming from Forrest lunging into it, not from Silva.
But mostly it was the third knockdown, in boxing that will end a fight. Forrest was done, he knew he couldn’t hit Silva and he couldn’t take Silva’s punches.

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by Kid Nate on Aug 10, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that you need to dismiss Silva’s power to say that lunging into a punch certainly doesn’t help. We’ve seen Anderson unleash precise punches at opportune times and put guys to sleep; why shouldn’t we conclude that he made Forrest into Just Another Victim?

by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

he definitely did

but Forrest dived into that last punch chin first.

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by Kid Nate on Aug 10, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

i remember watching him miss the two stepping punches...

and then seeing that quick ass straight from Silva… THEN Forrest’s last punch basically going limp with the rest of his body… All his own weight hit a wall that was Silva’s fist…. amazing…

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by Loot on Aug 10, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

But wouldn’t the lunging forward part be negated by Anderson moving backwards at nearly the same rate?

Just because you’re going backwards doesn’t mean you don’t have the same power as going forwards. It has more to do with how well planted your foot is on the ground and how smoothly the power transitions up your body and into the punch itself. In slow-motion, Anderson seemed to have his full base on his left foot. The power went through the entire body.

In hockey sometimes the hardest wrist shots are falling backwards because the body is deriving more power from the ground. Watch from where Anderson throws that punch. It swoops up from his waist, leveraging the power from his waist more efficiently. Forrests lunging forward I think has very little to do with the power of the actualy punch, and has more to do with his psychological ability to sustain a punch of such power while in the middle of throwing your own.

by Dooda on Aug 11, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really think this is a non-issue. So he ran out of the octagon after he got beaten down, its on par with not letting the referee hold your arm down while he holds the winner’s up.

Surely we don’t have to lynch the guy for wanting to crawl into a hole a away from everything after suffering the worst moment of his career.

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by Sam Cupitt on Aug 10, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

You don’t have to “lynch” anyone for anything.

But the fact is, NO ONE is above criticism. And if you have a reputation for having tremendous “heart” and a “never day die attitude,” and it looks like you quit, people have a right to conclude that that reputation might need a little reassessment. Also, if you display a lack of sportsmanship in defeat, and refuse to face the media, the fans, and your UFC president, that too is grounds for criticism, and fans weighing in on whether “he’s just passionate” is a valid excuse.

In other sports, athletes get fined for displaying that kind of “passion,” and are skewered by fans for less. But because Forrest is so beloved, he not only gets a pass, but a $60K bonus to boot. I guess it pays to be a Poster Boy.

by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew something was fishy.

What kind of punch makes you deaf? That’s like kicking the taste out of somebody’s mouth. (Which would be awesome.)

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by thetakeover on Aug 10, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I took a punch in sparring – with the big gloves on – just to the side of my jaw once. The shot jammed my jaw upwards and I heard a “pop” in my ear. Couldn’t hear out of it for three days until the swelling went down in my jaw.

That being said, the last shot caught Forrest just below the eye.

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by AJB on Aug 10, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t it Evan Tanner who said he got hit so hard he was blind for a bit?

Man, I miss that guy.

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by jemaleddin on Aug 10, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the things I think has hurt Forrest's pride most

is that he’s said that there’s nobody he can’t make a fight with.

While that was an entertaining spectacle, it wasn’t much of a fight. Just one-sided battery.

by Cunny on Aug 11, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

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