Bloody Elbow: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
New Blog: Cottagers Confidential for Fulham FC Fans!

Strikeforce Welterweight Title Fight Could Be in Jeopardy Because of Nick Diaz's Drug Test

Promoted from the FanPosts by Kid Nate.

According to f4wonline.com, the title fight between Jay Heiron and Nick Diaz could be in jeopardy because Diaz failed to show up for the pre fight drug testing held by the commission:

Diaz was scheduled to take a pre-fight drug test tonight in order to get licensed and no showed. Caesar Gracie stated Wednesday that Diaz would appear for the test tonight in Sacramento. Neither Diaz nor Caesar showed up for the test and representatives for Diaz said Diaz was "busy training".

Because of the time required to get test results back, CSAC believes the test would have had to be taken tonight. Strikeforce was contacted and promised Diaz would appear for the test Monday. CSAC has agreed to this new date but has stated there is a good chance test results will not be back in time to license him for the show.

Nick Diaz has never been shy about smoking marijuana, and in fact he's even proud that he can get away with it:

"I can pass a drug test in eight days with herbal cleansers. I drink 10 pounds of water and sweat out 10 pounds of water every day. I'll be fine."

Strikeforce_carano_vs_cyborg_coverage

The FanPosts are solely the subjective opinions of Bloody Elbow readers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Bloody Elbow editors or staff.

1 recs  |  Comment 118 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

i think i’d know the answer to that question, so i didn’t bother adding a poll. haha.

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2009 2:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't be scared, homey

It’s just a drug test.

But seriously, I think Strikeforce pissed off a Gypsy woman years ago.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s evident that Coker will have to obtain a jar of Gypsy tears.

I STILL poop rainbows.

by Blackout612 on Aug 8, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coker’s not a tear taker. Dana is. Advantage Dana.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MACHIDA!

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 8, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aww man

If he doesn’t fight, my friend is going to be pissed because we’re going to the show and he’s a big fan.

Twitter: @JohnPinano
Winners do what losers don't.

by Johpin on Aug 8, 2009 2:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BAH!

Yeah. I’ve got tickets, too. Saw the Shamrock fight and was stoked to see this one. C’mon Nick… put the bong down for a week and get over it.

by Amish on Aug 8, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK

I am going too…my buddy is the biggest Diaz fan ever. He’ll be crushed.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Aug 8, 2009 2:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sucks for jay heiron mostly. he was supposed to fight on the last affliction card as well. what next?

by bdw on Aug 8, 2009 3:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

even without this fight, it still has a pretty decent main card

-Gina Carano (7-0) vs. Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos (7-1)
-Josh Thomson (16-2) vs. Gilbert Melendez (15-2)
-Renato “Babalu” Sobral (35-8) vs. Gegard Mousasi (25-2-1)
-Nick Diaz (20-7) vs. Jay Hieron (17-4)
-Fabricio Werdum (11-4-1) vs. Mike Kyle (12-6-1)

if it’s out, there’s still 2 title fights plus mousasi babalu… nothing great, but pretty decent.. i was really looking forward to overeem defending his belt and nick diaz fighting, though… well at least there’s still gina/cyborg and mousasi to look forward too.

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2009 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thomson is out too. Melendez is fighting Mitsuhiro Ishida (18-5-1). 3/4 title fights got cancelled.

Isn’t Babalu their 205 champion? Is that a title fight?

by Swordslasher on Aug 8, 2009 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Checked their website, and the Babalu-Mousasi is a title fight. So they still have 2 titles on the line if Diaz can’t get cleared (I personally don’t really consider Melendez-Ishida a title fight, it’s just an extended #1 contender match).

by Swordslasher on Aug 8, 2009 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!

I’m talking some batshit crazy Old One’s, though. Maybe The Waiting Dark or some shit.

I STILL poop rainbows.

by Blackout612 on Aug 8, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 8, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They would still have 3 title fights if Diaz didn’t fight.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 8, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Said that too.

Although im not really excited about the interim LW title fight..

That being said, I think this is one of strikeforce’s better cards. (especially if they don’t scrap Diaz’s fight.. But that was pretty unprofessional on his part)

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From from just decent

by Meshuggeth on Aug 8, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CORRECTION

Come on guys. There are FOUR title fights on this card. Even if for some crazy reason DIaz is out, there would stil be 3 Title fights plus the Werdum fight.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 8, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really looking forward to

Mousasi/babalu and carano/cyborg cause that was good matchmaking..

The werdum fight is just mehh.although come to think of it, those weren’t coker’s idea either..

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mousasi/Babalu was good matchmaking, but not by Strikeforce.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 8, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

neither is carano/cyborg...

i was about to give him props for those fights.. but after typing it up.. the good ones didn’t come from him..

the sucky ones did though.. Werdum vs kyle.. psh.

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

If something is good, you can’t want it to be better? Man, what have I been doing with my life?

I STILL poop rainbows.

by Blackout612 on Aug 8, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m going again and really, it’s a quite a good card compared to the last one, but I’d rather have Diaz fighting.

by cyph on Aug 8, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 8, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Diaz is out it almost ruins the entire (TV) card for me, Mousasi-Babalu is the only other fight I’m really looking forward to. Hopefully it works out for Diaz though and I can see 2 of my favorite fighters (Mousasi) on one card.

by Reaser16 on Aug 8, 2009 5:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm waiting for the 6000 posts of outrage,

…and the rabid calls for the end of Diaz’s career.

It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.

by capital L on Aug 8, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t his career end when he left the UFC? When was the last time he had a relevant fight? Gomi? (Which, by the way: hahahahaha….)

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.

by jemaleddin on Aug 8, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

To be fair

His career looks revitalized when he moved up in weight..

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2009 9:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

By which you mean he stopped facing real competition and went for UFC washouts like Scott Smith and aging broken-down guys like Frank Shamrock.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.

by jemaleddin on Aug 8, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sounds like a certain “#1 HW” fighter too…Oh nevermind, It’s ok for him to do it.

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on Aug 8, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sound

like all the other WWE fans who think Lesnar is the best, I’ll take 30-1 over 4-1 like anyone else, two wins over Noguiera outweigh a 45yr old and a guy who lost to vera

Doesn't anybody think before they speak/post anymore?

by Big Boob Lover on Aug 8, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

People, people, people!

Let’s not fight about Fedor and Lesnar! Now is the time to come together and talk about how Nick diaz can’t stay off the weed long enough to become a real fighter! Something we can all agree on!

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.

by jemaleddin on Aug 8, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Now, let us bury this hatchet for now and mock Frank Shamrock. Ohmmmmm……

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I speak the truth...

Anyways yeah, Nick should prob lay off the doobies.

P.s. I live in the QCA too. I think that makes two of us on this whole site.

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on Aug 8, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, don’t undersell the fight fans in the QCA. Got another right here. To prove it: Whitey’s.

by Swordslasher on Aug 8, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NICE

No one else has a clue what that means haha

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on Aug 9, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzoooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Right off topic :D

Keep firing Assholes!

Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by Ubernoober on Aug 8, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Strikeforce pissed off a Gypsy lady.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very unprofessional.

by Lynchman on Aug 8, 2009 8:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how did i know this would happen, they picked Barnett for a reason, they picked Diaz for a reason

by davec84 on Aug 8, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel bad for the guy.

IFL dies, Bumped off of Affliction 2’s live shows. Affliction 3 Canceled, Affliction dies, Diaz misses a drug test.

hopefully they can find someone else for him to fight.

by Phildo on Aug 8, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Hahahahahaha

So… To answer the question as to why one of StrikeForce’s best fighters hasn’t been snapped back up by the UFC: you can’t build a promotion around a pothead.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.

by jemaleddin on Aug 8, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Diaz needs better management.

by madiq on Aug 8, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

.....and to lay off the weed.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.

by jemaleddin on Aug 8, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dana doesn't need to counter-program Strikeforce

They’re gonna have half their fighters for free on FOX Saturday night.

On Cops.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.

by jemaleddin on Aug 8, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Antics like this make it even harder to think that he’ll get signed by the UFC at the end of his Strikeforce deal.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Aug 8, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, that and not beating anybody worth fighting…

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.

by jemaleddin on Aug 8, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus the ufc already has matt serra, a fighter who can hang with anybody, but never beat anyone top 10. that was what nick was in the ufc. take matt serra out of the ufc, put him in strikeforce, he’ll be a superstar and probably a champ. :)

by bdw on Aug 8, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Matt Serra never beat a top ten fighter...

Wait a minute, what?

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, he did get lucky once, but you don’t see the comparison? i can remember fans posting that the ufc should “sign” diaz after the gomi win, as if he had never fought for them. unreal. him leaving the ufc is what has made him a star. he lost a kickboxing match to sherk (now a lightweight) and lost to joe riggs for cryin out loud nick diaz BELONGS in stikeforce, the jr. leagues. :-)

by bdw on Aug 8, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was shocked when Joe Rogan called him top ten p4p. That shit was insane.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s been eating his weedies.

Keep firing Assholes!

Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by Ubernoober on Aug 8, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

PUN

Supporting all Las Vegas MMA. Xtreme Couture FTMFW.

'09 is the year of the FW's.

by ElliotMatheny on Aug 8, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still can’t believe that StrikeForce initially wanted Phil Baroni to replace Riggs in this fight.

by Jahbulon on Aug 8, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn

Diaz and his weed obsession!

by pwdminotauro on Aug 8, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder why the original pic was replaced? I can’t imagine why.

I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva

by ufc4 on Aug 8, 2009 11:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Shocking!!

Man, just when I was starting to come around to Diaz perhaps being a top 10 WW. I have no problem with people that use pot, but when you can’t even lay off long enough to get your title shot in, well, that is a problem in my eyes.

www.knees2thehead.com
Check it out!!

by BJJDenver on Aug 8, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No discipline. Hard to believe he can’t get it together for a title fight.

I hope he can somehow ensure a clean test on Monday and Coker can get the test expedited. I personally don’t care if he gets high before during and after the fight, I just want to see him fight.

by MMAcGyver on Aug 8, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

^ this

It’s a performance inhibiting drug.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not if you listen to Eddie Bravo.

by Steve4192 on Aug 8, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Easy solution: Don’t listen to Eddie Bravo.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a general rule, I wouldn’t. But when it comes to weed and jiu jitsu, there are few people I trust more.

by Steve4192 on Aug 8, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think experience with weed only makes you an expert up to a point. Once your brain is ACTUALLY LITERALLY BAKED, you’re not an authority any more.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.

by jemaleddin on Aug 8, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whether or not it should be illegal is irrelevant. When he is retired he can smoke all the weed his heart desires but when he has a fight scheduled he owes it to Strikeforce to not put the fight in jeopardy by smoking pot.

www.mma-elite.com

by Brad Ackerson on Aug 8, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Alcohol isn’t performance enhancing. Neither is heroin. But they are still banned as well, and booze is even legal.

The fact is, if you show up at ANY job that drug tests with recreational drugs in your system, you are in for a world of hurt. Diaz’s job drug tests. He is no different than the bus driver or the construction worker whose boss makes him pee in a cup. Actually, that is not true. The bus driver and construction worker would get sent ot rehab or canned if they tested positive. Diaz has it easy.

by Steve4192 on Aug 8, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And thats why I love Canada

or at least Ontario, unless I sign a piece of paper saying I’ll submit it, I can tell the boss no if he hands me a cup.

by proflex on Aug 8, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That works great if you already have the job. But what about when the boss makes it a prerequisite of the job application?

by Steve4192 on Aug 8, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats part of the hiring process then so be it, but you’re right if you already have the job, it’s great, not much you can do with a prerequisite though

by proflex on Aug 8, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ignorance alert

Alcohol leaves your system a few hours after you ingest it. This means you can have a beer every night after training if you feel like it and pass a drug test.

Marijuana is detectable longer than any other drug – it can trigger a drug test up to 30 days after it was last ingested. In other words, you are punishing someone for potentially smoking a joint weeks before a fight – which is none of anybody’s damn business.

No one is saying fighters should be allowed to fight high. But testing for all non-performance enhancing drugs is ludicrous, and marijuana testing is particularly unjust.

by klown on Aug 8, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s not his point.

His point is that it doesn’t matter how long it stays in his system. He has a job that says he can’t test positive for it, like many other people.

If he doesn’t like it, he should find a new job, one that doesn’t drug test.

by Phildo on Aug 8, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Booze

can be in your system for more then a few hours, but that would all depend on your metabolism.

by proflex on Aug 8, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weed tests don't mean you

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are high in the ring

They mean you’ve gotten high in the last month or so. That’s not the same as a breathalyzer.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume Diaz is always high.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 8, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the big problem with a shallow lineup of fighters. The UFC could have a quality replacement for any fight in about 30 seconds.

by MMAEruption on Aug 8, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

STOP drug testing for non-performance enhancing drugs

It’s unjust, it’s unnecessary. It needs to stop.

by klown on Aug 8, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

False.

They clearly aren’t doing this test to “protect” the fighters. How does stopping Diaz from fighting because he has trace elements of marijuana in his blood protect him?

This isn’t a program that drug tests you right before you enter the ring to ensure that you are not impared. This is a program that controls the substances you use/consume on a regular basis.

The Drew Fickett analogy doesn’t even come close to being relevant.

by ruckus on Aug 8, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How does stopping Diaz from fighting because he has trace elements of marijuana in his blood protect him?

Except they aren’t performing blood tests (to the best of my knowledge, which are substantially more expensive than urine tests), they’re performing urine tests which are even less relevant to his “protection.” I can see the argument for performing blood tests to ensure that intoxicated fighters are not participating, but urine tests don’t provide an accurate portrayal of what the fighter in question is on during the event; particularly not a week prior to the event.

All that said, though I believe it’s not appropriate for the CSAC to ask for urine tests, it was not difficult to predict that Diaz would be tested for marijuana. Sometimes you have to obey bullshit rules in the short term for everyone’s benefit, but Nick probably doesn’t agree with that rationale (to each their own, obviously).

by Estrada on Aug 8, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you ruckus

When it comes to marijuana, the ignorance and prejudice are overwhelming.

by klown on Aug 8, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What’s so hard about following the rules? I don’t like the speed limit of 25mph where I live, but I obey it nonetheless. Bitching about it is pointless.

by cyph on Aug 8, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's not a very happy klown isn't he? :P

seriously though, it’s really simple.. rules are rules.. even if you think it sucks, you should follow it..

You can’t condone his actions just cause you think marijuana is okay.. If he fails the drug test, he should be ready for the consequences..

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, I'm not saying 'let him fight'

I’m saying ‘change the damn rules for next time’

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by subo on Aug 8, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tautalogical statements aside...

Rules should be examined and challenged if you “think it sucks.”

Personally I think that drugs should be put on the banned substance list after a thorough analysis of the actual affects they may have on a fight and the dangers they may pose to a fighter.

We all know that is not what happened when marijuana was placed on the list.

by ruckus on Aug 8, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe me, nobody believes in legalizing weed more than I do. Hell, I think we should legalize all recreational drugs and sin tax the ever-loving shit out of ’em just like we do with tobacco and alcohol. The only thing prohibition is good for is creating artificial market conditions where criminals can make billions of dollars rather than legitimate businesses.

But …. if you work at a job that drug tests and you continue to not only smoke weed, but brag to you boxx that you smoke weed, then don’t start crying when you get fucked in the ass by a drug screening. When I was college, I had to give up smoking weed every summer because I had a high paying gig (for a college kid) working at a moving and storage company that randomly tested their employees. Did it suck giving up weed every summer? Sure. But it didn’t suck as much as losing a nice fat paycheck. Nick still hasn’t figured that out.

by Steve4192 on Aug 8, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damnit! Boxx = boss. I hate new keyboards.

by Steve4192 on Aug 8, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your new keyboard has an "x" next to the "a"?

I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva

by ufc4 on Aug 9, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Directly under the “S”. Not sure what “A” has to do with it.

by Steve4192 on Aug 9, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec’d for both paragraphs.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 8, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand your point about the impracticality of what he is doing; the safe and smart choice for him is to just do what he’s told and suck it up. No doubt about that.

But every time he, Kid or any other MMA fighter gets jammed up because of this utterly ridiculous perception of marijuana I’m going to speak up against it.

I’m glad that someone is willing to stand up and say: your rule is ridiculous and I will treat it as such. Whatever his reasoning (or lack of reasoning, perhaps) may be.

by ruckus on Aug 8, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is a painkiller and can enhance performance during a fight. He needs to suck it up and deal with it.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 8, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Neither ruckus, subu nor I have made excuses for Nick Diaz but all the blowback to our comments is about how “rules are rules” and Diaz should “suck it up”.

Speaking for myself, I’m trying to draw attention to a larger point than this Diaz incident, which is that testing for recreational drugs is absurd. It’s a waste of time and money and it’s inherently discriminatory based on a fighter’s lifestyle rather than whether he cheated in a fight. It’s especially discriminatory when it comes to marijuana because it is detectable for so much longer.

by klown on Aug 8, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking up against a rule you think is unfair is fine to me, but breaking the rule should still get you punished until and if it is changed.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 8, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LIVE ON SHOWTIME SPORTS!
MAIN CARD (BEGINNING AT 7:30PM):

Gina "Conviction" Carano (7-0) vs. Cris "Cyborg" (7-1) – 145lb Female Championship Bout

Nick "Bad Boy Diaz (20-7) vs. Jay “The Thoroughbred” Hieron (17-4) – Welterweight Championship Bout

Renato “Babalu” Sobral (35-8) vs. Gegard Mousasi (25-2-1) – Light Heavyweight Championship Bout

Gilbert "El Nino" Melendez (15-2) vs. Mitsuhiro Ishida (18-5-1) – Lightweight Interim Championship Bout

UNDERCARD (BEGINNING AT APPROXIMATELY 5:30 PM)

Mike “Mak” Kyle (12-6-1) vs. Fabricio “Vai Cavalo” Werdum (11-4-1)

Scott Lighty (4-0) vs. Mike Cook (7-4)

David “Tarzan” Douglas (4-1) vs. Justin “The Silverback” Wilcox (5-3)

James Terry (6-1) vs. Zac Bucia (2-3)

Isaiah Hill (4-6) vs. Alex Trevino (3-0)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 8, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least you are

beating on a drum I like now.

by Riney on Aug 8, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One can’t be too surprised by this when half of Strikeforce’s roster resides on the Island of Misfit MMA Fighters.

I specializes in grammar fail.

by a tommy point on Aug 8, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you guys are getting wild with the assumptions.

He didn’t fail his test. He missed a test. There can be any number of reasons as to why this happened. A lot of you guys are just speculating and making assumptions about marijuana.

Even if he does turn out to be an idiot low funtioning pothead (which judging by his career and his running in triathalons I don’t think he is), at least wait until you know for sure before you rip him apart.

by willydynamite on Aug 8, 2009 2:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

It doesn’t matter whether he missed it or failed it, both have the same result, he can’t fight, and Jay Heiron is fucked, again.

by Phildo on Aug 8, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was "busy training"

even if that was true.. It is still VERY unprofessional, and it could cost Heiron another paycheck…

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

regardless of how anyone views marijuana in society, it is illegal to use in all the other major sports. the nfl,nba,mlb,nhl,nascar,golf, tennis and even boxing all have this drug listed as a banned substance . if mma were to all of a sudden take it off of their banned substance list, they would be laughed out of town as a legitimate sport and guys like ny’s bill riley would have a field day with this. hopefully nick DOES have a viable excuse and the csac lets him test at alater date b/c i really wanted to see him fight heiron. i think jay would be the most talented and still in his top form type of fighter that diaz has fought in awhile. and heiron would get paid win or lose. maybee sf will still pay him, even IF the fight is scratched. one can only hope.

by bdw on Aug 8, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it." -- H.L. Mencken
Start posting on Bloody Elbow »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

Connect_with_facebook

MMA Rankings

USA Today / SB Nation Consensus MMA Rankings

SBNation.com Recent Stories

Photo

Rumor: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Hidehiko Yoshida At ASTRA

Photo

Bobby Lashley Planned For April Strikeforce: Nashville Event

Photo

Pat Curran Announced As Final Participant In Bellator's Season Two Lightweight Tournament

More from SBNation.com >