Paulo Filho to Get Middleweight Title Shot on DREAM.11?
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 6, 2009 10:26 PM EDT
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According to Japan-MMA:
There are rumors that a middleweight title fight featuring Paulo Filho is in the works too. A surprise considering it was expecting to be another re-match of "Jacare" and "Mayhem".
The third fight between Jason 'Mayhem' Miller and Ronaldo 'Jacare' Souza looked to be set for DREAM.11 but now, it seems like the bout is off. Jacare recently signed with Strikeforce, and there are rumors that he's being considered to face Jake Shields for the interim Strikeforce Middleweight Championship.
Mayhem Miller also commented on this via his twitter account:
F**kin Jacare is ducking me.
With their former champ Gegard Mousasi vacating the middleweight title to move up in weight, it left DREAM scrambling to put on a decent match up for the interim DREAM Middleweight title. On DREAM.9 they put Mayhem/Jacare 2 for the vacant strap, only to have the fight end in a no contest. Now, with the third fight between them in jeopardy, it seems like they're going to try and to put on another title fight with decent star power on it.
Enter Paulo Filho. The troubled former WEC middleweight champion had his fair share of weight problems and personal issues, before returning to DREAM.10 in a light heavyweight middleweight match up against Melvin Manhoef. He won the fight convincingly and looked to have his career back on track.
DREAM.11 is on October 6, and he's also set to fight at Bitetti Combat on September 12. If the reports are true, Filho will have to come out of Bitetti Combat without injuries and he'd have to cut weight twice for this title fight to push through.
Rumored DREAM.11 card so far:
Lightweight Title Fight:
Joachim Hansen (champion) 19-7-1 vs. 21-4-0 Shinya Aoki (challenger)
DREAM Featherweight GP Semi-Finals:
Hideo Tokoro 22-16-1 vs. 11-6-1 Hiroyuki Takaya
Joe Warren 2-0-0 vs. 5-2-0 Bibiano Fernandes
Reserve: Kazuyuki Miyata 7-7-0 vs. 11-5-3 Daiki "DJ Taiki" Hata
DREAM Featherweight GP Finals:
Fernandes/Warren winner vs. Takaya/Tokoro winner
SuperHulk Semi-Finals:
Ikuhisa Minowa 42-30-8 vs. Hong Choi Man 2-2-0
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou 6-4-0 vs. Gegard Mousasi 25-2-1
Middleweight Title Fight:
Paulo Filho vs. TBA?
Non-Tournament Bouts:
Andrews Nakahara vs. Zelg Galesic
Gesias "J.Z." Calvancante vs. TBA
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This is why I laugh about these co-promotion things.
If DREAM & Strikeforce were really working together, why wouldn’t Ronaldo Souza vs. Jason Miller 3 happen?
And Paulo Filho getting any title shot right now completely makes the title worthless.
And Paulo Filho getting any title shot right now completely makes the title worthless
but mayhem jacare 3 doesn’t?
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Aug 6, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
well they both went far in the MWGP which mousasi won..
and they both last fought for the title anyway.. plus, they’re middleweights..
Paulo Filho hasn’t fought at 185 in ages.. (and no, he fought Chael Sonnen as a weird LHW)
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 6, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Id rather
see filho get a fresh shot than mayhem vs jacare 3
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Aug 6, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
There was tons of heat after Mayhem/Jacare 2. It’s a super marketable fight.
I STILL poop rainbows.
yea there was, but now, a lil down the line, wouldnt it be interesting to perhaps see mayhem take on someone else? if they’re that interested in pushing him for the title so much
jacare already taken out of the picture (momentarily, never know what may happen regarding mayhem jacare 3 somewhere down the line)
mayhem vs someone else could be a decent draw, depending on who they have to hand
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Aug 7, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Mayhem vs Filho seems pretty unmarketable and I think Filho would have a pretty easy time with him because of his strength. I like Mayhem, though, and he could surprise some people (especially if he fights Filho’s ghost and not Filho himself). Anyway, Jacare/Mayhem 3 is definitely the fight people (including me) want to see, but it doesn’t mean the alternatives are crap.
I STILL poop rainbows.
especially if he fights WITH a ghost
Filho was at a disadvantage because he was fighting a tag team of Sonnen AND a ghost.. haha.
and yeah, I think Jacare/Mayhem3 should happen for the dream title, and that Filho should fight Jake Shields for the strikeforce belt.
and since they said they wanted to unite the belts, let the winners fight each other.. everyone happy.
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 7, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
It's easier to say
I call him The Ghost of Paulo Filho because he fights like a ghost of his former self…..and he fights other ghosts.
I STILL poop rainbows.
He seems fine now…that he is back fighting in Japan.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 7, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Paulo's been fighting at 185
other than missing weight against Sonnen. His Manhoef fight was at 185.
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I don't want to nitpick
But I believe Manhoef-Filho was at middleweight. I seem to recall the discussion about the cut coming up. Anywho, interesting stuff.
The ULTIMATE ultimate proving ground.
wait, i think you may be right..
i think fighters only got it wrong
Filho went up to light-heavy for a fight with Melvin Manhoef last month after losing a unanimous decision to Chael Sonnen at WEC 36.
and it got me confused too cause Filho did make 185… i think…
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 6, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This has more to do with Jacare debuting in Strikeforce in the fall than bad co promoting. Although it is strange that they would stop Jacare/Mayhem 3. Maybe there is little interest in that fight in Japan?
He def. should have. If it wasn’t DREAM being nice it would have been a dq.
Rumor is Jacare is upset with DREAM so I doubt this has anything to do with co-promoting or what have you
But that does have something to do with co-promoting.
How is the grand “alliance” supposed to work if you have fighters leaving one of the orgs and going towards the other because they have problems with the management?
Yeah
The argument doesn’t hold up. They can fight domestically under the Strikeforce banner, which he’s going to be doing either way. I don’t get it..
I STILL poop rainbows.
Just because you CAN work with one organization doesn’t mean you WILL work with that organization. And signing with one organization indicates your preference as to what organization you’d rather work with. Thus, if you sign a 5-fight deal, you might fight all 5 of your fights in Strikeforce, or split 3-2 or 4-1 between Strikeforce and DREAM. However, if you’d rather the reverse be true, signing with DREAM makes sense…particularly if you don’t live or train in the US.
So tired of Mayhem/Jacare, I’m glad they’re bringing in Filho. At the DREAM press conference when they announced the co-promotion they also said they would do champion vs. champion or title unification, couldn’t really understand. In that regard it’d be Jacare/Shields vs. Filho/Mayhem?
I’d love to see Zaromski vs winner of Hieron/Diaz.
it's really weird..
if it was actually true and they want to put strikeforce champ vs dream champ, they’d put mayhem/jacare 3 and Shields/whoever, then put both winners in a fight..
zaromskis vs diaz would be the shit too.. but i really doubt they’d put on their top guys against each other..
that being said, a realistic fight (in terms of accepting that there will be politics and top guys wont get to fight), that i want to see is Aoki vs Gurgel..
Gurgel has better striking obviously.. and maybe against a guy like aoki, we’d get to see Gurgel’s ground game.. A submission, regardless of who pulls it off, would really make a statement..
I think gurgel would be the underdog, but he has a very real chance of beating Aoki, his jits must be really fucking great, and we just don’t see it, so i think he could fend off a couple of subs enroute to a knockout win.. (don’t let the brawls fool you, this guy is Hazelett’s teacher)
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 7, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Considering Jacare just signed with Strikeforce and is fighting on the same card as Fedor, I think Jacare/Mayhem is out the window. SO as I said it would more than likely be Shields/Jacare and Filho/Mayhem.
I have to disagree on Gurgel/Aoki just look at Aoki/JZ or Uno. He stifled all advantages they had over him, and both of those guys are better than Gurgel. Why would we even compare these two? Gurgel is a low level LW and Aoki is fighting for DREAM’s title.
The winner of Ishida/Meledez vs. Hansen/Aoki would be nice though.
i know Jacare/Mayhem is out the window.. look up, that’s what i wrote in the post itself. haha. :)
and about the comment, I wasn’t saying what’s likely or not gonna be the middleweight title fight, cause that’s already mentioned in my post.. all i was saying, was that i want to see mayhem/jacare winner vs. shields/TBA winner..
….
And Yes gurgel is a low level fighter, that is why i think the fight being put is more possible than seeing all those super fights because it is easier to set up..
Aoki would be favored, but i’d still be interested in watching that… If it isn’t going to be a superfight, i’d rather watch that, than Aoki vs other low level strikeforce fighter, any day..
And i don’t think you should compare Gurgel’s jits to JZ’s jits either.. I’m interested in that fight cause we could finally see a guy that could possibly hang with Aoki’s jits.
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 7, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, didn’t understand that you want to see Mayhem/Jacare vs. Shield/TBA..
After thinking about it I think Aoki/Gurgel would be a good fight, because I think Aoki could force Gurgel to FINALLY use his Jits. That said I would also like to see Shaolin/Gurgel, I think Gurgel has the edge standing but can’t judge his Jits as of late.
Also a possible outcome of Aoki/Gurgel (Imanari and Aoki are Nippon Top Team): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhOskm8awiA
Considering Jacare just signed with Strikeforce and is fighting on the same card as Fedor
There has been no comment on either of these.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
You were correct about them not stating that Jacare/Miller wouldn’t happen.
But they stated Jacare and Fedor would both be debuting on Oct. 25th.
That is a potential date coming from GracieMag.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Some people can’t be pleased, just showing you at least have was reported on regardless of who wrote it. BE isn’t the only source of MMA news btw.
I'm confused.. i dont get what you guys are arguing about haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 8, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they’re thinking that if Shields beats Jacare, while Filho beats Miller, Filho-Shields is a pretty marketable Champion vs. Champion fight, while the Miller-Jacare “grudge match” still stands.
If Miller and Jacare both WIN, they’ll get a Champion vs. Champion fight AND a grudge match.
The other possibilities, Miller-Shields and Jacare-Filho, are also kinda intriguing in other ways.
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