Gambling Spotlight: UFC 101

Will B.J. Penn eat 35 cheesesteaks before his bout with Kenny Florian? Does Forrest Griffin die in the ring to help book sales? Will Anderson Silva throw more than 5 strikes/round? I don't know the answer to any of these questions, but maybe I can help you make some money anyway.

B.J. Penn#1 Lightweight |
vs. |
Kenny Florian#2 Lightweight |
| -235 (5DIMES) | Best Line | +220 (BODOG) |
| 30 | Age | 33 |
| 5'9" | Height | 5'10" |
| 13 - 5 - 1 | Record | 11 - 3 - 0 |
| 5 / 5 | TKO / SUB | 3 / 7 |
| B.J. Penn MMA | Camp | Team Sityodtong |
| L - St. Pierre (TKO) W - Sherk (TKO) W - Stevenson (SUB) |
Last 3 Fights | W - Stevenson (SUB) W - Huerta (UD) W - Lauzon (TKO) |
To give you an idea of how lucrative betting MMA still is, B.J. Penn opened up at -150. The line's moved all the way to -250, and I'm still not sure what's going on.
You have to ask yourself this: In what general aspect of MMA does Florian have an advantage over Penn? We can look at some specific details and find some advantages. Florian, for example, has better kicks than Penn, but that's mostly a result of Penn's decision not to throw kicks.
When we look at the whole picture, it's clear that Penn excels in every facet of the game. He'll be better on the feet (with more power), he's a better wrestler, and he's on another level on the floor.
Kenny likes to repeat the "I finish fights" mantra, but if you look at the lineup since his loss to Sean Sherk, it's not exactly a murderer's row of lightweights. Kenny doesn't have one punch KO power, Penn's defense and resistance to cuts will help shield him from elbows, and the idea that Florian can submit Penn is so remote it's not worth of discussion.
That puts Florian in a precarious position. Penn will have to make a huge mistake or come up lame for the fight to be stopped. That leaves Kenny with the unenviable task of winning three of five rounds from one of the top pound-for-pound fighters in the world.
Yet, we're still offered a line of -250 on Penn. Hit it, and hit it hard. I like a big play (3u+) on Penn.
photo via CombatLifestyle.com

Anderson Silva#1 Middleweight |
vs. |
Forrest Griffin# 4 Light Heavyweight |
| -330 (5DIMES) | Best Line | +300 (BOOK/5DIMES) |
| 34 | Age | 30 |
| 6'2" | Height | 6'3" |
| 24 - 4 - 0 | Record | 16 - 5 - 0 |
| 14 / 4 | TKO / SUB | 3 / 7 |
| Black House | Camp | Xtreme Couture |
| W - Leites (UD) W - Cote (TKO) W - Irvin (KO) |
Last 3 Fights | L - Evans (TKO) W - Jackson (UD) W - Rua (SUB) |
I hope you're not getting your analysis from UFC.com for this fight.
Finding avenues for the underdog to finish is the general theme for the two featured bouts on this card. Griffin's power, notoriously and by his own admission, can't bust a grape. If he wants to finish the fight, he'll have to submit Silva. Unfortunately, Griffin also doesn't have much in the way of wrestling.
Now, it's certainly not unfathomable that we see Silva on his back. One of the biggest flaws in his game is his propensity to throw a strike that leaves him in position to be easily taken down. Submitting Silva, however, is not an easy task no matter what Ryo Chonan and Daiju Takase will tell you.
I'd also like to take this space to dispel the notion of "Well, it's Forrest. He shocked the world twice, he can do it again." This is absolute drivel used by people too lazy to actually analyze a fight. I might as well tell you that Silva has won 9 straight in the UFC and, therefore, is incapable of losing.
Anyway, I see this as a pretty bad matchup for Forrest. For all the talk of him being a go-forward brawler, he actually fights a lot more measured. He still throws at a very high volume, but he'll go in-and-out with multi-strike combinations.
I wouldn't be surprised if this fight ends up a lot like Machida/Ortiz. Expect Griffin to miss and Silva to counter all night. I like a small play on Silva at lines under -400.

Josh Neer |
vs. |
Kurt Pellegrino |
| -210 (BOOK) | Best Line | +190 (BODOG) |
| 26 | Age | 30 |
| 5'11" | Height | 5'8" |
| 25 - 7 - 1 | Record | 13 - 4 - 0 |
| 10 / 11 | TKO / SUB | 1 / 9 |
| Miletich Martial Arts | Camp | Team Sityodtong |
| W - Danzig (SUB) L - Diaz (SD) W - Thomas (UD) |
Last 3 Fights | W - Emerson (SUB) W - Tavares (UD) L - Diaz (SUB) |
Up until he got caught in a triangle, Mac Danzig exposed Josh Neer with footwork, head movement, and technical kickboxing. Guess what Mark Dellagrotte shored up in Pellegrino's game? Batman has shown vastly improved footwork in his last two fights, and I ultimately think that will win him the fight. Neer fights like a poor man's Chris Lytle, constantly coming forward and swinging for the fences. I expect the Sityodong team to follow the Danzig blueprint to a decision victory.
I like Pellegrino for a good sized underdog bet of 1-2u.
Ricardo Almeida |
vs. |
Kendall Grove |
| -160 (BODOG) | Best Line | +150 (5DIMES) |
| 32 | Age | 26 |
| 6'0" | Height | 6'6" |
| 10 - 3 | Record | 10 - 5 - 0, 1 NC |
| 0 / 4 | TKO / SUB | 2 / 6 |
| Gracie Barra Combat Team | Camp | BJ Penn MMA |
| W - Horwich (UD) L - Cote (SD) W - Yundt (SUB) |
Last 3 Fights | W - Day (KO) W - Tanner (SD) L - Rivera (KO) |
Usually we like to talk about style matchups, but I think this fight will come down to body types. Ideally, Kendall Grove would use his size to work distance and set up his attacks with his jab. Instead, he fights in close and completely disregards his genetic advantage. This will allow Almeida to get in close, and if not work a takedown, clinch and pull guard. In addition, once on the floor, those long limbs will look like a turkey dinner on Thanksgiving to Almeida. I think this fight will hit the floor at least once and it's going to be quick from there. Take Almeida for a unit.
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Yep, I got in on Penn at -150. I put a lot on Silva, a good amount on Pellegrino, and a c-note on Almeida. Still trying to figure out some parlays, but Penn, Pellegrino, Almeida looks nice.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 6, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m just curious since you seem to be a big “real money” bettor. Do you do it to really make money or is it more just to add some tension/spice when you’re watching the fight?
by Sokonojudo on Aug 6, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does it because he’s addicted and can’t stop.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Aug 6, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had the bankroll, I would be doing this for a living.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 6, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much real cash have you made in MMA betting?
by Sokonojudo on Aug 6, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a personal policy I don’t talk about money.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 6, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Understandable. Since, you seem to be an experienced bettor which sites do you find the best to use (odds, access to cash, fees, UI,etc.)?
by Sokonojudo on Aug 6, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally use Bodog and Bookmaker, though I’ve been planning on getting money on 5Dimes at some point. Sportsbookreview.com is your best bet in finding reputable books.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 6, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must use 5Dimes.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 6, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Oddsmakers? Are they legit?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Aug 6, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SBR gives them a D-.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 6, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they sent me such a pretty letter…
I guess 5Dimes wins.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Aug 6, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’ll have to check out some of these other books. I have used betus.com and sportsbook.com for ages, but i think the key with gambling, especially MMA betting, is line shopping. I literally just about wet myself when betus put Fitch at -250 for his UFC 100 bet.
so what does it take to get an account at 5Dimes? is it a credit card, or one of those fancy first union deals?
by mo dogg on Aug 6, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fagan, if you had 50k to play with how much would you be making every month on average?
by mmalogic on Aug 6, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s hard to say because there’s so much fluctuation just in how many bets I get in and how much of an edge I have, let alone the variance of wins and losses.
The best hard evidence I can give you is that over 150 bets I have tracked since Feb. 2008, I’m 90-63 (58.8%) with an ROI of 7.9%, both of which are right where you want to be as a sports bettor.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 6, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you go 90-63 on 150 bets?
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Aug 6, 2009 9:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he meant “over 150” as in “greater than 150.”
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
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by Richard Wade on Aug 6, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably, I just like giving him shit.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Aug 6, 2009 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I support that.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 6, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, I believe subo is already on board, there’s still plenty more room.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Aug 6, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to start building a resistance army.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 7, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are the person in power, they are the resistance.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 7, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Push/No Contest/Draws
Or it was an approximate figure more likely.
by Sokonojudo on Aug 6, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There just isn’t enough action out there to make MMA sportsbetting a viable option for a full time career. It’s rare that there are more than 2 big events per month. With so few fights happening, variance can get pretty high and a steady stream of income is unlikely to sustain itself. Edges for a lot of fights are pretty huge, but the volume just isn’t there. Ironically, as volume increases, the edges are probably going to disappear. Stick to MMA betting as a hobby, and you’ll have more fun, and probably win some extra pocket change to boot.
by Carl P on Aug 6, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So would I, for sure... I'm a bit close to that, but I could crush my bankroll in a few events
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by Leland Roling on Aug 6, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is pretty easy
to make money on betting MMA. I am like 10-2 in the past 3 or 4 events. Just pick your fights wisely(like betting on GSP/Machida) and load up on them. I made a good chunk on UFC 100.
by TennesseeTopTeam on Aug 6, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I do it for a little bit of both, but I have side businesses I funnel winnings into, and that helps.
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
by Leland Roling on Aug 6, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Penn, Pellegrino, and Silva is my parlay pick. The odds on MMAPlayground are out of control on Penn/Florian – it’s practically even money.
by MMAEruption on Aug 6, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’m going to go hit that right now.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 6, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got my whole MMAP bankroll on this card!
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 6, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t got that crazy – I’m betting about half. I’m tempted to put something down on Almeida too.
by MMAEruption on Aug 6, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I put a G on Penn and a parlay for my last 300
by TennesseeTopTeam on Aug 6, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too. That would mean more if I hadn’t taken a bath on UFC 100.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Aug 6, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the only way to go.
Disintegration -- I'm taking it in stride.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 7, 2009 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go big or go home!
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 7, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If BJ loses I’m broke.
Disintegration -- I'm taking it in stride.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 7, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got Penn, Howard, and Hendricks as a parlay on mmaplayground
fightlockdown.com
by The Legend on Aug 6, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had Hendricks in a parlay but then I realized that fight is kind of a crapshoot – who the hell knows how good Amir really is, and I’ve read some mixed things about Hendricks. Better for me to stay away.
by MMAEruption on Aug 7, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel you are overestimating Almeida and underestimating Grove.
During his career Almeida has not shown good takedowns or an overwhelming propensity to submit his opponents. He does not have heavy hands or an aggressive stand-up style (which are Grove’s achilles heel). His last quality victory was over 5 years ago, a decision over Ryo Chonan.
Grove has shown he has solid submission skills, enough that he should be able to avoid being quickly submitted. Grove should be able to win the stand-up battle and he should have a decided advantage in the clinch.
by Niles on Aug 6, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can someone remind me what is the website for fake bets?
I NEED to bet on Florian.
But not with real money lol.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Aug 6, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mmaplayground.com Join the BloodyElbow group
by Sokonojudo on Aug 6, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you sir.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
by spectaa on Aug 6, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best bet on this card: Penn-Leites-Sotiropolous parlay. Can get nearly 1-1 odds.
by Michael Rome on Aug 6, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love this bet.
Spinning out solid gold, like Rumpelstiltskin.
by Heenan on Aug 6, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I have to do that too.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 6, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Per mmaplayground.com you get $169 for every $100 with that parlay.
by Sokonojudo on Aug 6, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not on bodog…which is where my money’s at.
by Michael Rome on Aug 6, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well my fake money is on Playground. =)
by Sokonojudo on Aug 6, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still iffy, on what happens when/if Florian can get Beej in a clinch. Does Penn pull guard? Eat knees?
Penn’s never been great on his back, I could see Kenflo just finding a way to clinch him and fight ugly the whole fight.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Aug 6, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No way Kenny gets inside that often without eating a ton of right hands in the process.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Aug 6, 2009 9:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Florian also has better elbows (but I guess that`s cause Penn doesn`t use them, right?), better cardio (but that`s cause BJ doesn`t train…) and seems smarter, a lot smarter (but that`s cause BJ doesn`t… think?).
That being said, I still thinjk BJ is favourite to win, though I would never bet money on him (kinda like I won`t do heroin and I won`t sell my soul to the devil). Ethics can make you poor.
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by BlueberryMuffin on Aug 7, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Penn painted the canvas red with Joe Daddy’s blood from an elbow.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 7, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a small parlay on Silva Almeida Riley Pellegrino.
by goodbones on Aug 7, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
spot on as usual Mike. Ive already made all the same bets and the only one im even nervous about is Almeida/Grove.
by moopwontplay on Aug 7, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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