Fedor, Strikeforce Press Conference Live Updates
by Nick Thomas on Aug 6, 2009 1:53 PM EDT
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We'll be providing live updates from the media teleconference today via this post:
Fedor Emelianenko, Scott Coker, Ken Hershman and Vadim Finkelchtein will discuss the potentially game-changing announcement Monday that the fervently sought-after Emelianenko had signed a historic, multi-fight agreement that will see him headline mega-events co-promoted by STRIKEFORCE and M-1 Global.
Fedor will make his premium television debut during the fall when his first fight under the new agreement airs live on SHOWTIME. Up until now, all his live fights had aired exclusively on pay-per-view in the United States.
The press conference starts at 2:00 pm EST. Make sure to stay at BloodyElbow.com for what should be big news.
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- Conference starting to discuss "game changing" signing of Fedor. Ken Hershman, Scott Coker, Vadim Finkelchtein, and Fedor on the call.
- Coker welcomes Fedor, greatest heavyweight of all time, to Strikeforce
- Hershman describes this signing as "epic" for Showtime.
- Vadim compliments Strikeforce, mentions TV deals in Japan, Europe.
- Fedor happy to have found great partner, fight again.
- Coker: M-1 has lots of resources internationally, good fighters.
- Fedor: I don't know my opponent yet. I will be happy with any opponent.
- Vadim: UFC did not give M-1 any chance to develop.
- Coker: Of course Dana's going to call us Strikefarce.
- M-1 lawyer confirms Zuffa's cease and desist.
- Coker: Overeem and Fedor will probably happen at some point, can't guarantee it as first fight.
- Fedor: I've fought two great fighters in my last two fights.
- Coker: PPV 6-9 months away.
- Coker: If I thought we would lose money or go out of business, we wouldn't have made the deal.
- Coker: Can't get into specifics of deal.
- Fedor: I have complete control of my career.
- Bloody Elbow's Mike Fagan gets on the call only to say, "I'm waiting for Scott." (Scott Coker is disconnected.)
- Fedor: Numbers reported on the internet were not accurate with Zuffa's offer.
- Coker: Strikeforce and M-1 are partners. We're not worried about them obtaining a promoter's license.
- Fedor: We would have signed if reported numbers were accurate.
- Vadim: Fedor's name is bigger than UFC outside America.
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A TV deal does nothing for long term success.. If anything EliteXC showed everyone that just because you have a TV deal does not give you automatic success. The key thing’s people haven’t been looking at is past track history with MMA.
1. TV DEAL: A TV deal should be used as a tool but never relied upon as your saving grace. If you don’t have enough capital to stand on your own in business then it’s worthless to try expansion until you’ve made enough in your market to expand on your own. Building up supply & demand.. EliteXC had GREAT ratings on their CBS card.. They’re do for the next episode of "Where Are They Now" airing on VH1 next month..You know why they could not sustain ?? Because they didn’t have enough capital on their own to stand alone.. This now leads you to bringing in investors, partners etc.. It lessens the amount of profit to be made and it cuts into your revenue streams and market share.. Bad for long term financial health.. Co-Promotion is never good for business.. Especially when so much is riding on the show financially, and split umpteen different ways from Sunday. Expansion should always be any business goal, but never done at the expenses of your market share or value.
2 BUILDING STARS: This deal with Fedor is a relatively short term deal. 1 year 3 fight contract. There isn’t enough time to really build them up with the resources SF/M1 & Dream have combined. CBS is not throwing them on the air at this point. They have zero viable marketing streams that’s needed to reach their target audience in time to do so accordingly. SF is essentially making the same play Bodog, EliteXC & Affliction did.. Banking on 1 individual’s name and appeal.. But there is really zero star value in their key player. So they would need time to "build" their key player to a market that’s honestly disinterested in seeing him. Nobody really want’s to see him at this point. Outside of the hardcores, there isn’t too many people calling for Fedor at all, which by the way that number is dwindling quickly it seems.
3. PPV: This is where EVERYONE is going to fail.. When it comes to a pay model, you have GOT TO HAVE STARS. People that pay to see their man.. Regardless of win or lose.. They will still pay to see their man.. In order to build stars, you need a few variables to all be aligned. Personality, Ability & a certain amount of success. That’s just the starting blocks too.. You also need a smart marketing alliance with someone that knows how to sell.. You’re essentially asking the general public to buy your product & the product is entertainment. That’s something that they have to pay money for but have nothing really to show for it when it’s said and done but a memory.. SO they "REALLY" have to be sold on the hype to buy.. Once you get a broad appeal, the rest will follow.. It’s like this.. Night Clubs cater to what market ??? Young women.. You know why ?? Because where ever the young women go.. then men are surely to follow.. It’s a marketing strategy based on equal parts of supply, demand & salesmanship You have to have all 3 to be successful in a pay model. SF has been semi successful because they never operated out of their comfort zone. They’ve stayed relatively small and regional. Going to Network TV & PPV is asking the entire team to be hitting home runs consistently.. They simply dont have the right batter’s to get the job done long term.. If they follow the above plan.. they’re going to fail miserably..
Their best bet is staying Showtime & hoping to ride out Fedor’s deal splitting the bill and breaking even on his 3 fights.. If you jump out of the swimming pool into an ocean full of sharks.. you’re going to get eaten very quickly…
by MMAuthority on Aug 6, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Actually, most people are waiting to see what Coker says about their recent partnership deal with DREAM and Fedor’s next opponent. I can see Fedor vs Rogers and Shields vs Jacare in October.
The co-promotion stuff is always a joke. It’s been announced in a different form like 10 times in the history of the sport. All that ends up happening is a few fighters do a fight or two… Then they get in a fight, and don’t do business again.
It’s all about motivation of money flow. Strikeforce’s is from Showtime. M-1’s is from Fedor/Showtime. DREAM’s is from TBS. Since they don’t have the same revenue source, it is bound to fail.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 6, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some fans.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great post, but keep in mind
EXC did have really good rating. And in all reality they would be sitting where Strikeforce is right now if they had.
1. Not burned up all their startup capital, purchasing small feeder orgs. like KOTC, Sprint, Rumble on the rock etc. (Trying to expand too quickly)
2. Not invested so much marketing budget behind Kimbo. Should have used his coat-tails to spotlight Diaz,Shields,Lawler a little better than they did.
3. Kept their expenses and payrolls in line with their revenue streams.
For all the flack that EXC gets on the boards. They did put on quality shows, and did some good things for the fighters and fans.
You just have to hope that Scott Coker and co. has learned from the mistakes of EXC? My gut is that they have. But time will bear that out.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
LOL
I was going to use yours but couldn’t find it. Feel free to delete the post above.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 6, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
so…it’s a press conference about the one they just had?
fedor’s too little too late with courting US media…and that’s only b/c the other mma wells ran dry b/c Affliction should have stuck to selling $75 t-shirts that have been attacked by a bedazzler…..i think the elbows, wrestlers, and cage combo of the UFC made him want to fight in an organization with Brett Rogers, Yvel, and Werdum as his best challengers….what a joke. Other than Overreem, Strikeforce is all guys that wouldn’t hack it anywhere near the top of the pile in the UFC and I’m NOT BEING A UFC jockey when I say that….it’s simply fact. He beat Sylvia and Arlovski, again, guys that after brief time at the top, got dismissed from the UFC……
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei.
http://theworldsoldestsport.blogspot.com/
by theworldsoldestsport on Aug 6, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Does anyone think there could be an upside to having AA or Sylvia rematch Fedor on CBS? I think as far as casual fans go, there is a “tree falling in the woods” scenario. In other words do they even know they fought previously?
Not that I care to see this, especially Sylvia, but I’m thinking it is a way to gain popularity for Fedor amongst less knowledgeable fans.
I think it would be a bigger draw than Rogers, Werdum or Overeem, to get him more established.
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Check it out!!
I think if Arlovski gets 2 solid wins he will be back in the mix.
Timmah needs a lot of work.
The UFC will never sign Timmah and Arlovski because Fedor just crushed them. Imagine what it would do to the UFC if either of the 2 went back to the UFC and became HW champ? For this reason, I think we will eventually see them fight in Strikeforce again. I am pretty positive about Arlovski. Most people were clamoring a Fedor vs Arlovski 2 anyways, before the Grim happened. =)
Have you read where AA admitted he played Russian Roulette last night..?
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
UFC 101 conference was boring as always
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
The post fight press conferences are always more exciting. The pre-fight are just a way of getting the press a few quotes to write articles on it. Plus, the guys are cutting weight, so they are never personable…
by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 6, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope, but doubt, we find out how much of the Fedor signing was Coker, and how much was Showtime.
The more I think about it, the less I think this was Coker’s decision.
Very, very possible.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
How many times will we hear Brock Lesnar’s name
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
So sick of these bullshit conference calls and press conferences …
… where nothing gets said.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Aug 6, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor: I don't know my opponent yet. I will be happy with any opponent.
This^
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Aug 6, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Coker: I feel like we won the lottery.
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
You have to pay the lottery in some places?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Coker said they would have an opponent announced today, lets see if he’s been able to reach a decision with M-1…
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
Fedor: I don’t know who my opponent is.
Coker: It’s too early to say who it will be. It hasn’t been decided yet.
Didnt he say they would name an opponent today
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They need to get their stuff straight if they want their “CO-Promotion” to survive
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet they want Lashley
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
On his first fight
Coker: It hasn’t been determined yet.
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
Piss us off and keep people talking about Fedor.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Coincidence?
Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.
WASHINGTON — A pair of nuclear-powered Russian attack submarines has been patrolling off the eastern seaboard of the United States in recent days, a rare mission that has raised concerns inside the Pentagon and intelligence agencies about a more assertive stance by the Russian military.
=)
Should have signed the fucking contract.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Late breaking update. Brock Lesnar officially announced that he wanted to fight the subs. The subs promptly signed with a lesser known promotion and will be fighting C level fighters on Showtime.
by Rich Wyatt on Aug 6, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Fucking chicken ass subs. (They’re not fighters, so bite me)
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
chicken .. sub.. bite.
not cool around lunchtime you asshole.
by pr0cs on Aug 6, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Imagine all this shit goes down and we go into a war with Russia, making any relationship of any company and Fedor impossible.
Dana white and UFC bashing is only making it worse for themselves..
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions
But don’t you know, there won’t be any war…
Ha, yeah right.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah the UFC wouldn’t do such a thing.
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, when you know you’re fucked, there’s no reason to be polite
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Same thing goes when you know you control the situation. It’s when there is ambiguity that couth comes into play.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder why…
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And by us I of course mean ‘M-1’
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
They aren’t a bunch of dumb ass business people
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
M-1 will broadcast events in Korea, Japan (Sky TV), Russia (Channel One), and the UFC won’t give us these opportunities that Strikeforce did
Yeah the UFC only airs there and 2863264754286786489236496349632 more places
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly…
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
M-1’s two channels versus…how many countries the UFC airs in?
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you quote that without laughing?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
People don't get it...
M-1 is saying that they can negotiate TV deals in other countries and have the ability to do so, they obviously wouldn’t get those opportunities with the UFC because UFC already has TV contracts in place.
Makes sense to me.
It goes both ways though, those are two channels…but M-1 would gain a ton of coverage on the UFC’s connections.
Bad deal for the UFC, but you’re right, that is what they are saying…dosen’t mean it makes a good point. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Better TV contracts than M-1/SF could EVER hope to get
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It depends. I have read that they had a deal to show Fedor in prime time on the biggest russian channel.
If it’s true, they could turn Fedor in a household name in Russia, which is probably more important for a russian than being known in USA.
You want to turn Fedor into a household name in Russia? Sign with the UFC.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The UFC does not air on prime time on the biggest russian channel , the channel that everybody watch.
That doesn’t change anything – the bottom line is nothing would put Fedor over in Russia more than signing to fight Brock.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
No opponent because I’m sure all the potential guys are asking for big raises.
by Michael Rome on Aug 6, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
This times 1,000
I’ve been saying it since this happened, especially with Rogers on the last fight of his contract – whoever Fedor fights is going to want/demand at least a solid chunk of what Timmay made.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Michael Rome is right again.
The fighter’s who made out the best in this signing are Fabricio Werdum, Brett Rogers, & Alistair Overeem.
Why fight Fedor for $100,000…. When a bigger offer from Zuffa is around the corner.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 6, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Because you want to fight the best in the world?
Rogers was very excited at the idea to fight Fedor. Overeem wants this fight too.
Not for less than half of what Sylvia got to fight him.
And I’m glad not every fighter thinks like Fedor and some of them actually DO want to fight the best.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You think that they would turn the chance to fight the best fighter in the world? I doubt it.
Fedor has probably more appeal than Zuffa, which is not even very generous for a first contract with the UFC.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
You think that the UFC would offer more than 100 000 $ to a fighter like Rogers?
They cut Werdum because they wanted him to take a paycut, and he was not even making a lot. They are rather greedy.
Absolutely they would. Either you are being obtuse, you know nothing about business at all, or you work for M-1.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
How are paid Carwin and Velasquez? Less than that.
The UFC has always had the policy to not inflate their payroll and to pay little, except for their big stars.
Rogers is not star an Overeem not a lot more. They won’t make explose the bank to get them now.
I don’t care about M1 at all, but you, you seem very concerned with Zuffa.
You seem very concerned with M-1 and UFC co-promotion as your alter ego Russian Bomber on the UG.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
I don’t care about M1 and co promotion. You are making up things.
I said that I would like to see Fedor in the UFC but I can understand that they won’t offer the same freedom for developping MMA in russia.
This is what I don’t get about the people that bitch about fighter pay.
Whenever you’re talking about UFC fighter pay, the only number that matters is what is reported to the Athletic Commission, but whenever we talk about someone else getting paid, we have to factor in all the other myriad of ways people get paid, you can’t have it both ways.
by Phildo on Aug 6, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Werdum got cut for refusing a paycut after getting KTFO by a rookie after bitching about not gettting a title shot.
If Rogers wins his next fight against someone other than Fedor and wins, he’ll get offered at LEAST 50 to show and 50 to win. Then endorsements, which are more than salary. And if he beats Fedor? The UFC will make him rich.
The UFC is so greedy they just offered Fedor the best contract in the history of the sport and made TITO ORTIZ shut the fuck up about money. Greedy bastards.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, you should. Meltzer does two things well, and that’s find out PPV buys and find out contract details.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Most people will say that meltzer’s version is as close to accurate as we’re going to get.
According to him, if the PPV is a disaster, Fedor gets 3m a fight, if it’s record numbers, it’s over 5 million per fight.
What was originally put out by Carmichael Dave was assuming teh PPV’s did very good, but it’s not like they offered him a TUF contract here.
Best in the world? I didn't know Lesnar signed with Strikforce too!
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Aug 6, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
these russians talking over everyone is getting annoying
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Aug 6, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Boom?
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Fade-or?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel bad for Coker because his optimism is so misplaced.
I give them a year. By august 6th 2010 they will cease to exist as a promotion.
They may scale down, but doubt cease to exist as a promotion. They have been promoting for over 25 years.
Maybe someone should create a real gambling pool for this, so people could put their money where their mouths are.
Maybe it’d be smarter to just donate the money to Strikefarce.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Loretta Hunt (to Coker): Dana called Strikeforce “StrikeFarce” at the press conference. Said they have no money and nobody watches it. And that Fedor will put them out of business"
Coker said he’s not surprise under the current circumstances.
Really, because I thought any escalation would’ve surprised him.
It just doesn’t look like this was Coker’s idea.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not everybody needs to talk like Dana White, but Coker needs to grow a pair of balls. I hope that isn’t taken as bashing, because it isn’t.
The guy comes off as weak and defeated.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 6, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
There comes a time to set aside being humble.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Curious — why do you guys think so? Seems like every promoter who has gone head-on with Dana isn’t a promoter any more.
Because no matter what, he is going head on with Dana, wether he fights back or not.
Go down swinging Coker, go down swinging.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
meh, i think he’s better off keeping quiet so he has some pieces to put back together after the Fedor experiment is over.
Or he can apply with Zuffa. Joe’s going to need some help if they start doing weekly fight night cards as rumored.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Aug 6, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Mousasi: No comment
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Translation: I got screwed.
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Aug 6, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
sealab 2021 before anyone asks “wtf”
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I think she’s great. Right out of Rocky IV.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Aug 6, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I’m here asking questions and if I’m here asking questions then you must be terribly successful.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Prediction...
At the end of the call, Coker will yell “They have my family! Help me!!!”.
by Razzel on Aug 6, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
i was thinking he was being held hostage!
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
Immediately rec’d
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Aug 6, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahah
Translator: Vadim would like to add…
Vadin: Russian russian russian Dana White.
Oh hell, he’s talking shit about Brock.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
Brock will have something to say about that
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
thats all the translator said...
vadim said something something lesnar something something dana white
So you mean they didn’t deny that he’s the best HW out there. Word.
HMC was 1-0 and a product of Godzilla-generating nuclear fallout. He got a shot.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
well of course the ufc didnt help m-1 develope
why would they help a small org. that no one has ever heard of, how foolish!!
Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit.
What a joke
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, what a silly goose!!
Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit.
by mma is #1 on Aug 6, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Man… that sounds a like like ducking Brock. =(
by Chris Barton on Aug 6, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Nothing new here. Russian MMA fans love Brett Rogers because he beat Arlovski, so they think he is a worthy opponent. They claimed the same for the Affliction Trilogy replacement for JB.
Brett Rogers wants to get fucking paid.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be the only huge payday he ever sees. I’d be negotiating my ass off, too.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Aug 6, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
‘Man, I got one fight left – now either pay me or give me a bum so I can go to the UFC’
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this call is about fedor signing with strikeforce…
who is he fighting?
i dunno
STAY ON THE GUIDELINES!
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
Yeah, kinda hard not to get off topic when the fucking hosts have no information.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Who thinks these people know how to run a fucking lemonade stand, let alone an MMA promotion?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
They have a better chance running the red light district in Amsterdam
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
z
Please no questions about the M1 card that is currently scheduled for August 28th. Let’s please keep all questions to the unscheduled M1/Strikeforce show in “the fall”
by Phildo on Aug 6, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
vadim walked out
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Aug 6, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
And Vadim hangs up when they mention the August card.
by Phildo on Aug 6, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
WOW
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And his explanation for the August show is…
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
They will probably ask it again, though Showtime guy said this call is about Strikeforce/M1 event in the fall, not about M-1. =)
It’s not even about who Fedor is fighting at said show. This is a joke – you know it.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Vadim bailed. WTF. lol
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Lol.
Disintegration -- I'm taking it in stride.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 6, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
so uh… M-1 not so much promoting in cali this month?
fuck this shit, i’m out bitches – vadim
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Aug 6, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Screw Fedor vs Brock, if this conference call is any indication this whole situation is going to be comedy gold!
by Razzel on Aug 6, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Fedor is actually scared of Brock
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 6, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Well, that's easier than explaining what happened
Instead of saying ‘I was too busy to file the paperwork to actually get sanctioned’, he just takes a walk.
I hate that Fedor is there, but this does have car crash written all over it, so maybe it won’t be so bad.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
The more I see about Vadim, the more I’m convinced he is a criminal.
Coker is going to regret working with M-1, I guarantee it.
by DirtyML on Aug 6, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Who is giggling?
This whole call is filled with people laughing at the questions
by Chris Barton on Aug 6, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ANOTHER CONFERENCE CALL, I’M SO DOWN!
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
This is the Wargods of conference calls. I love it.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Aug 6, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
lol
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This is fun.
Disintegration -- I'm taking it in stride.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 6, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
z
I give Gross credit for going for the throat when Fedor is alone.
"Have we lost scott as well??!?"
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Aug 6, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
This is getting surreal.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Vadim is fucking OUT dude, it’s a hell of a coincidence he’s bailed.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
Or should I say, the times he leaves are a coincidence.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He knows a sympathetic forum when he sees one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah! lol
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m going to burn this call to CD and listen to it every day into work
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
Screw radio shows in the morning, this conference call has it all.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
“What did you learn from this failure that convinced you to do the same thing again?”
by Foxskinrug on Aug 6, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Nice
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
not only is it a trainwreck, could it be a russian train wreck?
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I dunno why but this complete lack of professionalism and subsequent PR trainwreck is delighting my childish nature.
Ladies and Gentlemen, today the Bloody Elbow Conference Crew discovered for the first time ever, an audio feed of what “Fail” really sounds like.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i survived the M-1 Strikeforce conference call
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Aug 6, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And a picture of a trainwreck right on the front of it.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i still
can’t understand why fedor is signing for less money with strikeforce, unless they have a package that just blows the ufc offer out the water
Fedor: The offer we got from the UFC was miserable
by Nick Thomas on Aug 6, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow. We have very different definitions of miserable.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
got cokers phone number
learned how crazy the russians are
and vadim hates questions
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
And someone needs to teach their dog to stfu.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone is recording this, right? I need to save this to my HDD
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Aug 6, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’ll second that…
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re a saint!
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
This shouldn’t end…let’s just let Scott go and keep Fedor and Vadim on the line.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
did vadim ever come back?
i dont hear the dog or the translator anymore
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
Yeah he was back, but he’s been quiet. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Or not.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes you wonder why Dana calls them crazy Russians.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
I have a couple of REALLY good guesses.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor: “The UFC doesn’t treat their fighters like people.”
What do they treat them like? I guess Fedor would like the UFC to have 300 employees and 300 unique contracts.
Someone better tell all the amazing fighters they have!
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Vadim is probably so angry he set off his own car alarm trying to open his door.
“GOD DAMNED AMERICANS AND ZE QUESTIONS!!”
by DirtyML on Aug 6, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
its like a soundboard between the car alarm, the giggling, the russians yelling, and the dog
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Aug 6, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL, It’s like a howard stern show.
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Aug 6, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fedor was napping, how dare they wake him from his slumber.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
He’s got ice cream all over his lap now.
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Aug 6, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great, now 10 tiny baby orphans will have to be sacrificed for this transgression. Good going, Loretta.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Aug 6, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta keep that dog fed somehow.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Along with 50% of the profit.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
The whole, stay on the phone thing, shouldn’t be so complicated.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If M-1 thinks the deal was so craptastic, how about they tell us what the offer really was.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Because that would involve revealing they received the best offer in the history of the sport.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Loretta (to ken hirschman): How involved was showtime in the process of getting Fedor
Ken: Involved enough, they felt Fedor was important, not getting into specifics, but thrilled that they got it done. Props to strikeforce.
Loretta (to Fedor): Do you think M-1 is being portrayed accurately in terms of the negative press?
Fedor: I don’t pay attention. Knows there’s a lot of people on both sides. Says if the numbers that were published on the internet were real numbers, they would have signed with the UFC. But the numbers weren’t true. They were rumors.
by Nick Thomas on Aug 6, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I still think they could offer Fedor twice what he is making in Strikeforce, and not offer co promotion and they’d decline.
They would've signed a deal with no co-promotion??
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So the numbers were not true and Fedor would have signed if the UFC offered really 5 millions?
The UFC will kick himself if true
If you believe that they leaked a fake offer, then more power to you, man.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Was not the leak based on extremely high projetcion of PPV buys, like UFC 100? I think they leaked the offer under his very best form.
No.
Couture vs Lesnar did not and Couture is more known than Fedor by a huge margin in USA.
700-800 000 at best I think.
Wow
I think pretty much everyone agrees Brock v Fedor would be the best selling fight in MMA history.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on the fact that Brock's fights gain more buys everytime he fights
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
You better post that link – this is going on my iPod.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL!
Is Vadim driving down the highway with his head sticking out of the window?
I specializes in grammar fail.
Location of the conference call revealed?
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Aug 6, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
“IF Fedor comes to the UFC he will make them famous outside of the USA”
by Nick Thomas on Aug 6, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Oh, God. 25 million Mexicans don’t count?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
That statement makes me want to punch an infant.
WHAT THE FUCK was that an elephant in the background?
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I haven’t lol’ed so much at my computer in a very long time.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pretty soon, we are going to hear goats and cows.
by Razzel on Aug 6, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHA @ strange noises throwing everyone off
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Aug 6, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
only two questions though… it might be done now though
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
This call is fucked.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't
If he wanted to leave, he would
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Vadim.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
z
They need to stop putting out the co-production and co-promotion shit.
The UFC doesn’t need help in production, M1 can’t help them promote.
“Fedor, there has been alot of backlash…”
Understatement of the year.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
“They’re angry at YOU, they blame YOU, YOU suck. . . what do you think of that, Fyodor?”
by Foxskinrug on Aug 6, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
“Uhhhh…..uhhhh….”
Lmfao
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m really awesome and think I deserve everything I wanted and I’m sorry people don’t want me to have a pony ride.
by Chris Barton on Aug 6, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The main responsible for the great sound effects from this press conference.
by DirtyML on Aug 6, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Police Academy.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m actually kindof worried for the person screaming in the background
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
You heard that too?
Whew boy.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
"Nossing."
you heard nossing.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Aug 6, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No sir, Ken Hiershman got the fuck out of there.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
Pahahah!
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Did they seriously just say no one knew Brock Lesnar a year ago?
Shut the fuck up Vadim.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
What does it say about M1 great promotional powers if no one knew him a year ago and now more people know him than know Fedor.
by Phildo on Aug 6, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Fedor: We would have signed if reported numbers were accurate."
But I read here from various people that Meltzer reported it, and he is never wrong/fed incorrect info.
Seems like we have two conflicting reports. I will reserve judgment until I see a copy of the contract or the two sides agree on what was offered.
BOOSH
It really makes me believe he was lied to. If it were just Carmichael Dave, that would be one thing. But Meltzer is no joke and the info he gets is by far the most accurate of anybody associated with the MMA media.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
So you’re saying that Meltzer doesn’t back up his claims with evidence and he just take information wholesale?
Do you think he made up the 1.72m PPV buys for 101 as well?
Why do you think Meltzer is being lied to but Vadim is telling you the truth? Who has a better track record?
Unless Meltzer was in the room when the offer was laid out, how would he verify it? Probably called the usual sources, right?
Again, I am not saying I believe one side more than the other. I am saying it’s possible a normally reliable guy, despite his best efforts to verify things, got lied to/fed misinformation.
It’s also possible the UFC offer was 100% accurate and everything being reported is true, and Fedor’s folks are lying. In that case I would say “Ok, you guys were all correct to buy into it so quickly.”
I choose not to trust either side in this case. You believe who you want to, but stop reporting things as truth. 99% likely is still 100% unverified. On something as big as this story, I think 100% verification is important.
BOOSH
I would believe it more
if reporters weren’t fed misinformation all the time. Look to the Big 3 when the trade deadlines come up. You have a billion reports about possible trades and nontrades, even by usually-solid reporters, that end up wrong.
BOOSH
Carmichael Dave reported 30 millions $ guaranteed for 6 fights.
And in fact it seems that it’s 3 fights and 2-3 millions $ on average PPV rate.
30 million and 6-9 millions are about totally different.
They’re both better than SF’s offer.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor: I make the sacrifices. Vadim makes the money.
by DirtyML on Aug 6, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If there was any doubt before
Let it be erased: Fedor is the one responsible for his not being in the UFC. Not Vadim. Not Dana. Fedor.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 6, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let’s start a petition for dana to open up a copy of the contract to the public, a full copy of it. We know he see what goes on on the internet. Let’s see who’s the bigger bullshitter.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Perfect, and rec’d.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I dare the UFC to hold a conference call that generates more comments than this one.
WARGODS! BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!
I specializes in grammar fail.
they didn’t say anything. there’s is no new news
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
And it was still the best conference…ever.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, bye.
Don’t do that, we have enough goons washing over from various places…it’s killing me. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Aug 6, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
For the record, I wanted to ask Coker about the Dream deal and if there was any chance he would fight in Japan or exclusively in the States. The second to last kinda kind of asked the same thing.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
Coker would get killed in either Japan or the States – I don’t think he has ever fought before.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Aug 6, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope that poor operator doesn’t get fired.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
Interesting stuff...
Unfortunately, the UFC is bigger than M-1 internationally, so it’s obvious that putting Fedor in the UFC probably would have been better.
You can do basic trends analysis on Russia’s leading search engine, and you’ll find that UFC keywords outweight M-1 or even Fedor. Fedor is bigger than Lesnar over there, but the UFC has much more attention over M-1 or Fedor in the country.
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
LOL
I think that stats shows that American’s who hack Russian computers are more interested in searching UFC than Fedor.
Fedor is Strikeforce's hail mary pass.
Somebody better catch it or SF is done.
I love me some Sexyama!
Getting this confrence call makes me feel better about not getting Brock/Fedor.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
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