How Does Strikeforce Solve a Problem Like Fedor Emelianenko?
by Nate Wilcox on Aug 5, 2009 1:47 AM EDT
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Like the proverbial dog that caught the car, Strikeforce, for a long time the plucky little pup that everyone liked because it knew its place and always fetched back good fights is now under a microscope and getting criticism and advice from all sides.
Here's Jake Rossen objecting to Scott Coker's plan to build up to a Fedor vs Alistair Overeem bout:
the idea that Emelianenko won't be granted an immediate shot is a dubious one, and for a number of reasons:
1. "Let's build that fight up" isn't the sort of thinking that's conducive to good business in MMA. The sport is too tricky and unpredictable for promotions to lay foundations for fights, and several high-profile bouts have fallen apart based on the notion that they should marinate. If it's a good fight, book it. Not after lunch. Now.
2. Overeem is one of the few intriguing challengers for Emelianenko in a promotion that's currently saddled with a public perception of a poor foster home for an all-time great. (Sherdog.com's informal survey of 12,000-plus fans indicates nearly 75 percent of them think the Russian made the wrong choice.) Strikeforce needs a legitimate body of opposition in Emelianenko's debut to help smother some of that disgruntlement.
3. Any legitimate title-challenger system should respect the intelligence of those watching. (Yes, even those leaking beer from their noses and screaming into the camera from their seats.) How could Strikeforce possibly sell the position that there is a more deserving challenger for Overeem's title than Emelianenko?
I have to agree completely. One thing I've learned (I hope anyway), is that MMA is too risky and unpredictable to be screwing around trying to build towards big fights. MMA history is a rocky shore littered with the wrecks of fights that coulda shoulda woulda but got derailed by an unpredictable fate.
Why on Earth is Strikeforce risking any of their "name" heavyweights? Even Werdum vs Mike Kyle makes me nervous. Kyle is just dangerous enough to ruin anyone's night and yet he's utterly unpromote-able. Messing around with booking Overeem, a notoriously underperforming fighter, against anything but the most marginal competition before he fights Fedor is just tempting fate, but I guess that's the business Scott Coker is in these days.
Meanwhile, Randy Couture contradicts Scott Coker and says, yes Virginia, there is an MMA war on:
"The back-and-forth is starting now between the UFC and Strikeforce," Couture said Tuesday. "There were a lot of competitors out there for the UFC, and Strikeforce is the last one standing. So it was only a matter of time before the adversarial relationship started between them, I think, with the Affliction stuff and those contracts being up in the air and both organizations trying to sign those fighters."
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The sport is too tricky and unpredictable for promotions to lay foundations for fights, and several high-profile bouts have fallen apart based on the notion that they should marinate. If it’s a good fight, book it. Not after lunch. Now.
Brock/Fedor anyone?
Keep firing Assholes!
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Forget about Fedor
Here’s cooler news: Tito and his fam are at six flags right now. Wonder why he would take the little babies to magic mountain… That’s what we should be discussing right now. Pic up soon =)
by poundnground on Aug 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
be careful, man.
Kid Nate aka Big Brother is watching you and what you post. He might ban you out of spite….. lol.
I think they have to chance it...
Fedor vs Overeem isn’t a huge deal anyways, and Strikeforce needs this Fedor deal to pan out in a big way. They can’t just do well, they have to do VERY well. With M-1 sucking them dry and the UFC putting them in their crosshairs, they’ve got to take every precaution to try and make Fedor a household name.
The best way for them to do that is to try and convince the casual fan that Overeem vs Fedor is a big deal.
So anyways...
Yeah, UFC 101 is going on this weekend. Anyone watching it?
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by Leland Roling on Aug 4, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
BJ can fight really good, but he shouldn’t do introspective monologues.
Keep firing Assholes!
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Soko
BJ is gonna rape Florini. Judging from the Countdown show BJ looks tremendous. BJ wins in the 3rd rd setting up BJ vs Sanchez in Hawaii. =)
While we are all on the subject (kind of lol) of Strikeforce giving people title shots when they don’t deserve them… What the hell was UFC doing with giving Florian a title shot with a 5-2 record against the monster that was Sherk back then? We need to ease up on Strikeforce here a bit is all I’m saying.
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by xFenixKnightx on Aug 5, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
and we all know the countdown shows are the most true-to-the-sport things thats exist, and the UFC never pushes one story harder then it deserves to be pushed on those shows, so we should take everything on there as fact
by peripheral scarecrow on Aug 5, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions
To Be Fair
That was the “reintroduction” of the LW class and they took the top 2 LW’s on their roster and pitted them against each other for a vacant title to restart the division.. Jens was tied up, BJ was WW & they didn’t have the influx of guys at LW they have now.. They only had a few guys under contract that could make that weight when the restarted it.. So to get the weight class going they took the best of what they had at that time.. I think it was a fair deal…
Darn tootin'!
Seriously, 101 will be a welcome distraction from all this Fedor business.
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I can’t wait to see Forrest shock the world again
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 5, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The dumb thing about this idea is Overeem vs. Fedor means jack shit to the casual fan, even if promoted with two wins each. Do it right away, other challengers will present themselves.
by Michael Rome on Aug 4, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Yea there really is no reason not to pull the trigger on this fight right from the start, it’s not like Strikeforce has a Randy Couture waiting in the wings that could make a appealing non-title bout. Overeem vs Fedor would pull hardcore eyes but it just never is going to be much for the casual fans to get excited about (who knows who Overeem is in the states?). I would bet it would be a great fight, but the only way to get any draw out of it at all is to push the belt angle.
The guy with a chance to draw in a fight with Fedor is Brett Rogers, he’s the guy who needs to be fed a couple of build up wins to get into this picture (he may be Strikeforce’s best chance for a real drawing star with the casual fans). If Strikeforce has Fedor for three fights they should work on getting Rogers built up for the third one and try to build a mega-fight.
This.
If you’ve got two guys who are virtually unknown to casual fans, it’s way easier to build up the guy who’s undefeated and has KTFO of everyone. And I’d put money on Rogers rolling over his next two (especially if their handpicked) opponents rather than banking on Overeem putting together two impressive wins anyhow.
Rogers has that it factor that gets people’s attention, he’s not ready for Fedor but he could draw the most with Fedor now. Overeem is overrated and virtually unknown in the US and Werdum if very good but just never got the crowd’s attention (except when Dos Santos laid him out). If you are going to toss guys at Fedor you might as well toss Overeem and Werdum and build Rogers up as much as you can for a showdown as the third fight, he’s the only one that may actually draw serious numbers and if he happened to win (who thought he would beat AA) then you really would have a star on your hands.
I’ll take a different stance.
It can mean something, but a lot of “IFs” would have to happen, and that’s not exactly the way they should be working. Overall, I agree with the point Rossen makes. Overeem vs. Fedor should happen now.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 5, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions
if a picture is worth 1000 words
that’s 6000 words!
no wonder you suggested I post on Rossen’s piece, you had that graphic ready to go.
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I only know 4 of em. I have failed as a hardcore fan.
5 Villasenior vs Kyle?
Keep firing Assholes!
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Correct. 5 is Kyle/Calvancante.
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by Joe Schmitt on Aug 4, 2009 11:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You smell a greco-roman eyes closed uppercuy 22 second barnstorming inverted triangle dirty fighting freakshow?
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Aug 4, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
This is what I'm thinking also.
Seriously, Over the last day or so, I’ve had this foreboding feeling that there’s a FUBAR just on the horizon.
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Dude, that’s indigestion. You should probably get that checked out. That is not cool.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 5, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
We may be revisiting this argument on August 16th in a reality where Werdum has gotten KTFO’d by Kyle and Gina missed weight and then got destroyed by Cyborg.
I don’t think Gina is going to miss 145. She actually looked slimmer in her last set of pictures unlike the MSG photoshoot.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 5, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Cease and desist ?
SO I haven’t heard anything more on Zuffa’s decision to serve Coker and Co with a cease and desist order?
Any update on where this stands?
Zuffa better go get a judge and deem the fight illegal, otherwise it’s going to happen.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 5, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Not Going To Happen
Zuffa doesn’t hold any weight with Affliction’s lone fight.. Fedor is/was signed to M1 global. M1 own’s the right’s to that fight, Affliction was just the promotion that Fedor was being lent to..
Actually, this is an assumption. I’ve thought the same thing, and I think that’s the correct assumption, but I’m fearful of the possibility that M-1 and Affliction left a loophole. Otherwise, why would Zuffa seek any legal action?
Furthermore, this really doesn’t matter. If the Cease and Desist is truly something that can work, it doesn’t stop a promotion from putting a fight on unless a judge deems it illegal. A simple hearing would do that, but I haven’t heard anyone pushing this in Zuffa. I’m sure it is in the process if this is legit, otherwise I’m more inclined to believe it’s a scare tactic.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 5, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny that...
…we’re overhyping these unprovens (Overeem, Rogers) and UFC rejects (Werdum, Monson, Buentello) and hoping they don’t lose until they get to Fedor.
Instead of asking that these “contenders” to fight for the right to fight Fedor…
People are trying to say that Strikeforce shouldn’t risk a loss to these fighters.
So let them get easy fights until they face Fedor.
Why isn’t there the same sentiment for the UFC fighters?
When a fighter gets a premature title shot, people go up in arms about their worthiness to fight for the crown.
“Who have they fought? Who have they beaten to deserve the title shot?”
Talk about double standards here.
the reason people are overhyping these guys is because they’re all we have. we wont see brock, mir, randy, etc fight fedor anytime soon…or at all.
by sadface on Aug 5, 2009 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just cannot believe how much Brocks stock has risen since he beat Mir. Yes he’s come a long way in a short time but to really think that there is anyone currently in UFC that can defeat Fedor is just laughable IMO.
Let’s get this straight. Fedor would destroy ANY UFC HW right now.
Which is exactly the reason I wanted him to go to UFC. He’s the best and he deserves to be in the best promotion. Go ask any fighter (not keyboard warriors like ourselves) and they will say Fedor everytime. His skill set is above and beyond any HW in the world right now. Just because some people around here are butthurt because he didn’t go UFC doesn’t mean he is “scared” or
“overhyped”. They clearly wanted to do a co-promotion which sucks major ass. All Dana and Co can do right now is pray he loses to AO or Werdum, etc and then throw tons of cash at them because Fedor in the UFC will probably never happen. :(
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by xFenixKnightx on Aug 5, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude
Fedor and Brock would be nothing if not a competitive fight.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 5, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Brock’s stock has risen because He hasn’t had “any” gimme fights. With practically zero pro MMA experience he went in to the wolf pack and walked out on top.
When you’re the best, you want to prove you’re the best. When given your opportunity to “undoubtedly” prove it .. you take it.. NOT TURN IT DOWN.. IT LEAVES DOUBT’S…
That’s all I’m saying..:)
by MMAuthority on Aug 5, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brock
YOU can’t believe how much Brocks stock has risen since he beat Mir? xFenix, his stock has risen with every punch, every take down, and every victory while all but obliterating the “Fake Wrestler” reputation.
Do you really believe that Fedor could beat Brock? Especially with that LAME-ASS Arm-Bar of his? Good luck trying that on the TREE-TRUNKS that are Brock’s arms….
Fedor wouldn’t even last the 1st round with Brock….
But of course all of this is a moot point since Fedor fears Brock and the other UFC fighters and thus signed with Strikeforce…..
The only problem with this is that we’re discussing Strikeforce’s entire HW roster right now. Fedor has to fight someone now, so one of them has to fight him right away.
Then for the other guys, they pretty much need to have an easy fight because there are no hard fights in the org. The only real person they can sign from the outside to be a challenge is Monson. So that would be ok.
THey have to fight easy fights until they get to fedor because there really aren’t any hard fights.
This is funny. It’s exactly what I thought when I heard Coker say “let’s built that fight up.” Umm, why? Put the best fights on when you can put them on, end of. That’s what the UFC does. If I were him I would be in a hurry to get my promotions HW title around his waist. I bet they change their tune and he fights AO right off the bat.
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this is the boxing model… this is what all zuffa haters are supporting. IF Josh Gross had his way the top fighters would be hand picking their opponents, padding their records, and screwing the fans left and right.
by mmalogic on Aug 5, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I hate this model. I was thinking the other day what if Oscar and Goldenboy were to ask for Dana’s help on how to fix boxing. Seriously, I would love that. Hit the damn reset button becuase it’s utter chaos IMO.
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by xFenixKnightx on Aug 5, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
This isn’t true. Josh Gross wants the best to fight the best! Unless of course Fedor signs with someone other than the UFC, because the heavyweight division has so much talent outside of only the UFC.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Aug 5, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
In the UFC, they wanted to do Liddell vs Griffin but Evans did NOT make that happen
It was obvious that on the year end PPV last year, the UFC wanted to do Liddell vs Griffin, but then Evans KOed Liddell and Liddell vs Griffin did not happen. This type of situation could easily happen in Strikeforce. Strikeforce would be well served to just put together the Overeem vs Fedor fight right away, and build up someone like Rogers, but also make it a priority to get more Heavyweights and put priority in building their Heavyweight Division.
the difference is that a fight between two TUF champions going for the belt is more marketable than something like Fedor vs. Kyle..
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 5, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor vs. Kyle..
I just threw up in my mouth.
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This
That dude shouldn’t be within sneezing distance of Fedor. Ever.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 5, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
The point that I was trying to make was that the UFC wanted to build up a particular fight (Griffin vs Liddell), but things obviously did not go as planned (Evans vs Griffin was still good though). With building up Fedor vs Overeem, Strikeforce runs a very real risk of one of the two fighters losing.
yup i know.. I was pointing out that the UFC can afford to try building up a fight,
if the alternative is also marketable..
they are planning for Rogers, Werdum, and Overeem for the three Fedor fights.. If Werdum and/or overeem loses, what do they do next? Give it to Kyle? Buentello?
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 5, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Strikeforce is just screwed if it comes down to that. You are correct though in that with Strikeforce, there is a very delicate balance going on here unlike the UFC. If one of the three Heavyweights (Overeem, Rogers, or Werdum) should lose any of their fights before fighting Fedor, then the appeal of any of them fighting Fedor goes even lower.
they wont just lose their appeal, a loss by any one of those three would effectively kill a shot against fedor. unless they match them up against each other. (rogers vs. werdum etc)
by sadface on Aug 5, 2009 2:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And this is strikeforce’s major problem.
When there’s an upset in the UFC, the loser usually has some previous push from the UFC marketing machine or will get one in the near future.
This is Strikeforce’s biggest problem, we’re discussing their entire HW roster. If the people they bring in to “build up” these fighters wins, they’re screwed.
I disagree with one point. The UFC doesn’t put on the best fights when they can. They are guilty of the same thing in building up fighters. The major difference is that they have a vast roster of great talent. It isn’t a problem.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 5, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Strikeforce wants to do the first Fedor fight on Showtime, Second on CBS and third on PPV.
It’s gonna be like taking a hot girl out on a date, opening the door for her, Dining her out at a fine restaurant, buying expensive champagne, and then discovering you’re not gonna get laid…
Everyday Coker is getting a phone call from Vadim about his russian rap group that he represents or his brother in-laws new ice cream flavor he invented with his wife’s toe nail clippings.
Dont be surprised if you see the rest of cokers hair disappear in the next few months.
Fedor will not fight those 3 while he is in Strikeforce- I guaran-damn-tee it.
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My source is common sense. There are a million different things that can happen between now and when his contract is up to prevent those fights, the most likely of which is one of those guys losing first. Anyone wanna see Fedor fight someone coming off a loss? I don’t. Strikeforce could also go belly-up between now and then. Overeem is hurt right now, who knows when or even if he will be able to fight again? Rogers might get an offer to come back to Sam’s Club that he can’t refuse, you never know.
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Anyone wanna see Fedor fight someone coming off a loss?
I don’t too, but don’t forget, some time back, Coker wanted to set up Overeem vs Werdum for the title..
And they’re giving Werdum something they would consider a “gimmie” to make him fight fedor coming off a win.. the sad thing is if he loses that fight, NO ONE would like to see him fight Fedor coming of 2 major upset loses.
and about overeem, yeah, they should just do it as soon as overeem gets healed up..
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 5, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
It doesnt matter because nobody knows who anyone of them are… they dont even know who fedor is.
Fedor could fight Jose Canseco and it would matter more.
it still wouldn't be competitive
Fedor would disarm him, before literally removing Canseco’s arms.
An ounce of prevention is a pound of cure
Unfortunately, it may be too late for Strikeforce. No matter who fights Fedor first, they’re going to demand at least half a mil.
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mmalogic
You should just stop:
First you guarenteed that Fedor will sign in the UFC. Then he signs with Strikeforce.
Second you said that Fedor’s manager wanted only to do money for himself and then he turned down the most lucrative offer when you guaranteed that he would take it.
Now you invent stupid theories about a fight in closed door that has 0 , aboslutely 0 chance to happen and you call you an expert consultant.
You lost. Fedor will not sign with the UFC but has signed with Strikeforce and will compete in Strikeforce this fall.
Admitting your defeat and you being clueless on that story would be more honorable than throwing even more misinformation.
Why don’t you first admit you know absolutely nothing about him.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 5, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And his history
of being correct and providing us with insider information allows him some wiggle room IMO. Or maybe he can stop posting and giving us fans insight into the MMA world. And if you are willing to call him out like this you must have some incredible insight we don’t.
Please tell me whats going on in the UFC. Strikeforce? Affliction? If I knew Fedor was offer up to $30 million, I would say he was coming for sure too. Did you know about the offer before you read it here? I am an MMA fan and I want to know.
My only problem with him is that when he is wrong , instead of admitting it, he covers his error by another error etc…… Everything he said on that story ended up being wrong and each time he is more wrong.
At one point, this is not giving insight, it’s trolling. He should just admit he was wrong and not making up stories to hide his errors.
Nothing has happened yet to prove him right or wrong.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 5, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Excellent. Rec’d.
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I dont understand what building up a fight and fighters is going to do, the only people who are going to be watching are fans who already know who the fighters are. People seem to underestimate how little the average person knows or cares about things not ufc. Most people dont even know who fedor let alone what strikeforce is and to think more average people are going to start watching strikeforce now because fedor is there, let alone who he’ll be fighting. are delusional
I think this is a bit ignorant. Building up fighters does a lot, but for Strikeforce, it may not work. A lot of people in this entire thread are discounting “building up fighters” without the context of just Strikeforce. The UFC does it all the time, but in this case… they are using a guy who hasn’t been a proven draw in the U.S. against guys who are either up-and-coming or not known. That’s why it has been claimed it wouldn’t work.
I still think in a major “What if” discussion, it could happen. Overeem crushes a noteworthy opponent quickly, and Fedor does the same… on a CBS card. I think that’s the only way. And even then… it’s questionable, but I wouldn’t simply discount it.
The funny thing is that all this talk is only helping Fedor. All the crazy stories regarding a UFC dead/Fedor/UFC war with Strikeforce is only helping Fedor. It’s very strange that UFC is pushing this campaign when it’s all attached to Fedor’s name. It’s helping him.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 5, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
other than the fact that a lot of casual fans I’m talking to are only getting “Fedor is scared” out of things like Dana saying he is…or Sportscenter explaining that it’s like a #1 draft pick signing with the CFL rather than the NFL…etc
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 5, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
You can sit around saying casual fans are stating he’s scared… but it’s obvious from all the buzz on the Internet that he’s being talked about by everyone. Sure, the press might not be all great, but it’s getting him attention that he never had before.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 5, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
all the talk about fedor on these forums are only being done by people who were already watching strikeforce before fedor was a part of it, to think that this is gonna bring new fans in is a little far fetched. Strikeforce is gonna be great for the hardcore fans who know who all these fighters are but i have a hard time believing its gonna reach the the casual fan. Most people arent mma fans they are ufc fans, theres a huge difference
Except your limiting your argument to just these forums. There’s a reason why Fedor was on the front page of Yahoo! Sports, and it isn’t because Yahoo! is suddenly all for MMA. It’s because he actually ended up in their top searches listing, and it was obviously a popular topic among searchers.
Bringing in new fans, it may not. But it’ll probably bring in some casual interest. Does it really matter? I don’t know, but the topic is still creating buzz around him… negative or not. Much like the Kimbo incident. A lot of fans were screaming all sorts of negativity toward him, but he was still intriguing.
Most casual fans are UFC fans, but if he hits CBS… a lot of those fans will still watch. And the buzz all over the MMA blogosphere informs casual fans as well. It’s ignorant to think it’s not helping him in some ways.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 5, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
its not ignorance its reality. No one tuned in to watch elitexc on cbs to see some good mma they tuned in because of kimbo and the only reason they did that was because of his popularity on youtube not because mma forums were talking about how great he is. Maybe if they advertise and build him up on youtube then they may get some new viewers just out of curiousity but to build him up on strikeforce programs or mma forums would be useless.
I Guarantee TUF 10 Does Better Ratings than A Fedor Fight on CBS Would
Call it a hunch…
by MMAuthority on Aug 5, 2009 8:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Indeed.
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Kyle is just dangerous enough to ruin anyone’s night and yet he’s utterly unpromote-able.
Not from legal blows, mind you. I mean, being a light heavyweight (let’s not kid ourselves) against Werdum, he’s gonna need all the knees to the balls and eye gouges he can muster to win that fight.
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