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UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira Disclosed Salaries

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira victorious after defeating Randy Couture. Photo via UFC.

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira victorious after defeating Randy Couture. Photo via UFC.

The numbers are in:

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira: $400,000 ($250,000 to show, $150,000 to win) def. Randy Couture: $250,000

Thiago Silva: $58,000 ($29,000 to show, $29,000 to win) def. Keith Jardine: $55,000

Jake Rosholt: $26,000 ($13,000 to show, $13,000 to win) def. Chris Leben: $30,000

Nate Marquardt: $80,000 ($40,000 to show, $40,000 to win) def. Demian Maia: $28,000

Brandon Vera: $70,000 ($35,000 to show, $35,000 to win) def. Krzystzof Soszynski: $8,000

Aaron Simpson: $18,000 ($9,000 to show, $9,000 to win) def. Ed Herman: $24,000

Gabriel Gonzaga: $120,000 ($60,000 to show, $60,000 to win) def. Chris Tuchscherer: $10,000

Mike Russow: $20,000 ($10,000 to show, $10,000 to win) def. Justin McCully: $15,000

Todd Duffee: $10,000 ($5,000 to show, $5,000 to win) def. Tim Hague: ($7,000)

Mark Munoz: $24,000 ($12,000 to show, $12,000 to win) def. Nick Catone: $5,000

Evan Dunham: $14,000 ($7,000 to show, $7,000 to win) def. Marcus Aurelio: $13,000


Total disclosed payroll for UFC 102: $1,285,000

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People use Jardine as the case study for what was wrong with the UFC’s low wages – guess he’s earning it after all.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Aug 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At $55,000 × 2 fights a year + 60,000 for fight of the night last fight = $175,000. We’ll even add on more fight before the end of the year, so $230,000. Now subtract the cost of training and paying his training partners and I still think that seems a little low for a main card fighter on a card with at least 800,000 buys and was even on the main event in his last fight.

And please no one mention endorsements. We don’t count endorsement deals for any other athletes as part of their pay.

by nottheface on Aug 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s a good chance the UFC pays him more than what is listed there.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Aug 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

We don’t count endorsement deals for any other athletes as part of their pay.

Athletes in most of the major sports aren’t allowed to promote their endorsed products on their league’s private broadcasts.

by Michaelthebox on Aug 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They don’t count in the contract numbers, but whenever forbes or whoever does their list of the highest paid athletes, you bet your ass they count endorsements.

by Phildo on Aug 30, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

You think Tiger Woods would be making eighty bajillion dollars a year in sponsorships/endorsement if he was just the worlds greatest club pro? Hell no. He gets all those endorsements because he is tearing shit up on the PGA tour.

Same goes for guys like Jardine. If he was just beating up people in local Albuquerque MMA shows, he wouldn’t be making dick in endorsements and he certainly wouldn’t have his own T-shirt brand.

by Steve4192 on Aug 31, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he also has a win bonus (but he lost), and other undisclosed salaries, and sponsorships….. :)

yeah, endorsements count.. i don’t get why it doesn’t count for you..

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 31, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because endorsement money should not be in lieu of payment. We are talking about how the UFC pays it fighters, not about how much they can make on the side. Kevin Youkilis is a good player who gets a lot of recognition playing on the Boston Red Sox, but it would be absurd if the Red Sox decided they didn’t have to pay him, or could pay him less because he can make so much extra money by playing in Boston. In addition Kevin Youkilis doesn’t have to pay for his trainers and training partners and other expenses, it’s picked up for by Boston. So we could look at sponsorship deals for lower paid fighters as just that, sponsorship for their training.
And for a fighter like Jardine, who on the main event in his previous card and on the main card in this event, were a combined 1.1 mil + PPV sales were made, it seems low to me.
(I know there is probably back room bonuses for Jardine. Maybe he got a huge check, but I’m just going off what’s been reported.)

In addition, for many of the fighters, sponsor money might not be all that great. According to Roger Huerta, many fighter are not making much off of endorsement:
http://www.5thround.com/news/1355/money-talks-and-so-does-huerta/
Money Quote: " Unfortunately, a lot of the endorsement companies have caught wind to the situation that the UFC fighters are in, and have not beenas aggressive financially. In fact, Huerta was insulted by some of the offers that he received, including doing unpaid work as a spokesman."

Listen, I’m not trying to rag on the UFC. Everyone, does it. But the UFC is the biggest, and i can see what kind of money they’re making and going to be making. And I, for one, would rather see it go in the hands of the actual combatants than those behind the desks.

by nottheface on Aug 31, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because endorsement money should not be in lieu of payment. We are talking about how the UFC pays it fighters, not about how much they can make on the side.

i don’t think you can call that making money on the side.. cause they get sponsorships because of the UFC.. Now an example like Carwin working as an engineer, that’s making money on the side..

Kevin Youkilis is a good player who gets a lot of recognition playing on the Boston Red Sox, but it would be absurd if the Red Sox decided they didn’t have to pay him, or could pay him less because he can make so much extra money by playing in Boston.

who said the UFC should pay less because he has sponsorships? You’re missing the point.. I just said the fighters earn a lot, because of bonuses and ALSO because of sponsorships.. The whole issue is you think the UFC pays fighters so little, but it isn’t that accurate.. The title in fact says it.. “Disclosed Salaries”… They make much much more than that.. you give Huerta, but i can also give several people that have already gone on the record saying that the UFC gives a lot of bonuses on top of those base salaries..

and about the spokesman thing.. Liddell, and all the big stars do PR work for ‘free’ too. The mid level guys also do it to make them more known to fans, which in turn gets them paid even bigger.. Roger is just being a diva..

again key word.. “Disclosed”..

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 31, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remeber though Jardine was getting 10K for a fight until this one so he got a big raise

by jks9202 on Aug 31, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he wasn’t getting 10k a fight.

He was getting 10k in his fight purse. there are many reasons and ways why that does not equal what he was getting for a fight.

by Phildo on Aug 31, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Krzystzof Soszynski

Does 8K seem low for someone on the main card on such short notice thats won his last two? I don’t follow the salaries too much, just wondering

by cletusvandam on Aug 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Soszynkski probably made several times that with sponsorships, but yeah, he’s still on his original contract so his base salary is pretty shitty right now.

by Chromium on Aug 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve heard that financially speaking its a very good idea to be in Dana’s good graces.

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Aug 31, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

usually If they lose they get their win bonus.

by mmalogic on Aug 31, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know he lost, but K-Sos is getting shafted. Since this was his fourth fight in the UFC, this was probably the last one on his contract. I hope he gets better for the next one.

by Chromium on Aug 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’ll be through his TUF deal in no time which is usually about 6 fights. He’s not young, but also not picky about who he fights (gotta get paid). He could carve out a Jardine-like spot for himself with a little more success.

The other guys on the show have fought what, twice each?

by bigweeze on Aug 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

K-Soz vs Jardine, set it up!

by grein on Aug 31, 2009 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GG is Carwin’s big win, and now he has a title shot.

That tells you where they feel Gonzaga is in the division (2nd tier with guys like Mir, Kongo) – and he still has the potential to rise. Plus he’s been around since UFC 56 and has one of MMA’s biggest KO’s ever.

by bigweeze on Aug 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is a veteran who had a title shot not too long ago, guys like that usually do fairly well.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Aug 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention he’s always exciting and very popular with the fans. That goes a long way with the UFC.

by Michaelthebox on Aug 30, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he looks like some kind of half pig, half man, half bear thing.

by Rabbit915 on Aug 30, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With their respective 60K bonuses added

Nog made nearly a half-mil, and Marquardt 140,000…not too shabby.

by Scott Haber on Aug 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nog had a great night and is now in line for some more monster pay days. Good for him, he deserves it after all the wars he has been in.

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Aug 30, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is very little to complain about with UFC payouts these days. Main Event guys are getting $500,000 or more, especally with PPV bonuses. The proven contenders are making $50,000 or more per fight. And the up & coming guys basically fight on TUF Level contracts which is $10k/$10k.

Now it’s time to start calling out Scott Coker and Strikeforce…. Their pay, especially for being on Showtime, needs to increase….

by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 30, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And he’d better or no one’s going to sign, or re-sign, with them.

by nottheface on Aug 30, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not anybody of quality anyways.

by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 30, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exposure of being on CBS is a huge perk. Whatever these guys get paid by their sponsors they should be able to make a lot more with about five times as many people watching.

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Aug 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1. Strikeforce has yet to be on CBS. And currently has no card scheduled for CBS.

2. The majority of fighters will still be on Showtime, not CBS.

3. The UFC has big named sponsors AND FOTN bonuses.

And the number of viewers isn’t the entire picture. The UFC gets more fans in the younger male demographic. There is also likely more active eyeballs watching a PPV then a regular card on TV.

by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 30, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strikeforce has no deal with CBS to air live events.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Aug 30, 2009 11:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

How did Kimbo do after getting exposure on CBS?, let’s not ever get it twisted the UFC has proven it’s the place to be in you want longevity and a big payday nobody else can offer that in mma period.

by Raker on Aug 30, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How did Kimbo do? He got PAID..

and now he’s in the UFC.. so yeah, i think Elite XC and CBS were good for him..

where else can you find a guy on his level of talent get that much cash, then get signed with the UFC?

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 31, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right him getting KTFO by a weak jab was great for him, the reason he’s on TUF is because he has no drawing power is has been forced to put it all on the line with TUF. The difference between being Ko’d in a lesser org and the UFC is night and day, your career can pretty much get Arlovski’ed fighting for SF.

While if you get KTFO in the UFC, they’ll put in the cage with a lesser guy and let you get back your cred like they just did Gabe. Fedor gets KTFO on CBS everything him and M1 have worked for goes up in smoke but if he got KTFO by Brock in the UFC he could still have a career that’s the difference and guys are starting to learn that.

by Raker on Aug 31, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

comparing Kimbo to Arlovski and Fedor isn't really a right analogy..

Kimbo never was and never will be on the top of the division, but the fact is, he has earned money equivalent or even more than what most top guys are earning now.

…Also, Kimbo IS a huge draw.. His track record has already proved that, and he’s going to prove it again by being in what is expected to be the highest rated TUF season so far..

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 31, 2009 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kimbo’s biggest payday was his check against Seth the idea that he’s come close to making the millions that Couture, Tito and Chuck have made is simply wrong. Kimbo lost any drawing ability he had after the weak jab exposed him, that’s the only reason he’s been forced to go on TUF.

by Raker on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still doesn't change the FACT that he got paid.. and got paid gooood...

no one at his level of talent will EVER get the same amount of money..

And again, TUF 10 will be the highest rated season, Why? not cause of roy nelson, not cause of the NFL guys.. Cause of KIMBO SLICE…

No one can argue how good he draws the fans in, all they can say is that elite xc had an ugly business model, and kimbo doesn’t have that much talent.. He might suck sure, but he IS a draw, and he DID get paid a lot.. I don’t get why you are arguing that.

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 31, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy is a draw, Chuck is a draw, Lesnar is a draw having some eyeballs watch one or 2 of your fights means nothing. Also AA got paid he made millions and now is on Bully Beatdown all of these arguments you keep making really don’t mean anything.

Kimbo career is dependant on joining TUF and trying to make a living as an MMA figher something only the UFC can do for him. In reality Elite XC and CBS did nothing for him but make him a punchline, while the UFC can actually give him a real career in the sport.

by Raker on Sep 1, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not true.

Most MMA sponsors are targeted directly at the 18-35 demo. CBS draws a lot more eyeballs, but a lot of those eyeballs are outside that demographic. All those extra eyeballs don’t help the sponsors that much because they are not in the target market for their products. The Matlock crowd isn’t a group that Tapout or Condom Depot care about, and Centrum and Depends aren’t exactly keen on putting their brand name on a fighters ass.

by Steve4192 on Aug 31, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Sylvia might sponsor Depends…

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Aug 31, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is Nog will get a cool mil after bonuses, and Randy will make more than twice that.

by Michael Rome on Aug 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nog hauled in some nice cash for himself. All the fight earnings, ppv bonus, and also his endorsemnets. I say he picked up a cool 1.5 mill or so.

by Riley_96 on Aug 30, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If the event did 600k, Nog and Randy will each make around 2 million. That is not including endorsements.

by Lynchman on Aug 31, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t believe Nog had a cut of the PPV. Doe he?

by nottheface on Aug 31, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think its almost an automatic % for the big draw fighters now. They bring the crowd they get soe of the money the crowd pay.

by Riley_96 on Aug 31, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It isn’t automatic, they have to negotiate it. However after this fight I bet Soares is chomping at the bit to renegotiate a contract.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 31, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one should complain...

…about the salaries UFC fighters make. The UFC pays out staff salaries, ref salaries, licenses, venue rental, security, advertising, travel, accommodations, all on top of fighter salaries. So every dime they bring in through live gate and PPV buys is basically spent before it’s earned, so that leaves the ad money they get from Bud Light, Harley, etc to keep the lights on at HQ.

by Screwface on Aug 30, 2009 11:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Let’s not go insane here. They are making amazing money. They spend quite a bit, but they make a VERY healthy profit.

by Michael Rome on Aug 30, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I know.

I was exaggerating to make a point. The Fertitas and Mr. White make enough money per event to keep Dana in Mach 3 razors for at least 20 years…

by Screwface on Aug 31, 2009 12:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I don’t begrudge Dana and the Fertitas for making millions. My only issue with the UFC is I would like to see the people actually fighting making as large of cut of that as possible.

by nottheface on Aug 31, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Between 20 and 35% of the revenue goes to the fighters.

by Lynchman on Aug 31, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that percentage is true (especially 20%) then it doesn’t sound like they’re getting a big enough cut to me.

by nottheface on Aug 31, 2009 1:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

If you start upping the pay scale too quick (like top guys right now total money probably 2 mil or so a fight) if they crack the piggy bank open and start shelling out boxing type money the pay scale could exceed the sport. MMA will one day have the fighters who are making the boxing type money but the sport is has only been profitable roughly 5 years.

by Riley_96 on Aug 31, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

boxing type money...

only top dudes in boxing get paid.. Their lower tier fighters earn wayyyyyyyyy less than the MMA salaries people are complaining about..

also, nottheface,
Revenue is different from income..

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 31, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully though,

as MMA gets bigger, i hope their top stars earn as big as the top boxing guys too..

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 31, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top UFC checks, for a fight, have been around 4 million, but that is not the norm. But GSP and Lesnar will both end the year having made over 7 million.

by Lynchman on Aug 31, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It depends on the event (20% would be for smaller shows), but folks need to remember that the UFC pays ALL production costs, ALL promotion costs as well as the expenses of running the show.

Major boxing cards see all expenses paid by HBO, SHOWTIME and other companies. When the UFC reaches the point where they get millions to rebroadcast an event, we may see the % hit 50.

Other major sports pay a higher percentage, but most of those teams also end up needing publicly financed arenas just to make money.

Minnesota recently bent over for the Twins and the Vikings are asking for a stadium as well. We also footed the bill for a new college stadium.

by Lynchman on Aug 31, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see numbers flying around, but I’ve yet to see anything I would call definitive. This would be a worthy project for the Bloody Elbow staff. I would love some in-depth reporting and analysis on what the estimated revenues, expenses, and profits are for the UFC. And then we can put this to bed. Either everyone is making a fair share or the Fertitas and Dana are making a killing.

And weoweoweo I was aware of the difference between the two, but thanks for checking. That was thoughtful.

by nottheface on Aug 31, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you knew, you wouldnt have posted what you did. as for “definitive”, sorry these disclosed number are all we get as far as confirmed earnings. however more than a handful of fighters have said they get paid much more than what is officially announced.

by sadface on Aug 31, 2009 2:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

It has been confirmed, repeatedly, that most of the main event fighters get a cut of the ppv. For example, it was disclosed that that was part of Fedor’s offer.

The scale was released during the Couture/Zuffa dispute. It was a sliding scale that ended with $3 for every buy over 330k.

by Lynchman on Aug 31, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not worth doing an in depth report on because there is no real access to these numbers.

We’ll never know what they pay in production. We’ll never know they actual amount they get from PPV. We’ll never know what they actually pay the fighters. We won’t know that stuff because Zuffa doesn’t want us to know that stuff (and some fighters don’t want their actual salaries out in the public). If someone did try to tackle this and got Dana/Zuffa to spill some real numbers, half the internet would say they were lying to make themselves look better (because the numbers would be a lot better than people think).

There is 1 number that is relevant to this discussion, and I don’t even know why people still talk about it.

Number of companies that have paid more than Zuffa and still exist: 0. It doesn’t matter if Dana and the Fertitas are making a killing, they own the company, that’s what successful company owners do. It’s supply and demand. If it was so easy to pay the fighters more, someone would come along and do it.

by Phildo on Aug 31, 2009 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will never be put to bed, people will always bitch.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 31, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big four athletes make 60%.

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by Mike Fagan on Aug 31, 2009 9:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

And those teams repeatedly demand public money to make a go of it.

As I said, the Twins are paying less than a 1/4 of the cost of their new stadium and will get ALL revenue.

The Timberwolves ended up having the public take the debt of the Target Center.

The Wild did not pay anything for the Exel Center.

The Vikings don’t like the yucky old HHH Dome and want us to make them a stadium as well.

Most teams make their money off of the stadiums and not from the actual games. It does not appear to be a very good system.

I am not saying fighters should not make more, but the big four have a pay system that is fairly messed up.

by Lynchman on Aug 31, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s why we don’t have the Sonics anymore; we had just paid for Safeco for the M’s and Qwest for the ’Hawks.

Not that we’re bitter or anything….

by woomikee on Aug 31, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

even the lowest and newest fighters who fight for UFC should be paid in the tens of thousands… salaries should be so attractive in mma that star athletes would flock to try and become a fighter and not a football player or basketball player. even the crappiest pga professional get paid in the 100s of thousands

by pandaboy99 on Aug 31, 2009 2:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and how long has the pga been around? 80+ years i think compared to 16 for the ufc. no sense even comparing the ufc salaries to pro sports hat have NETWORK and CABLE tv deals like nascar,hockey and not to mention the big 3. losing mlb pitchers make millions. does that make sense? the ufc is way ahead of the curve imo.

by bdw on Aug 31, 2009 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

salaries should be so attractive in mma that star athletes would flock to try and become a fighter

Why, exactly? The revenue/input ratio in MMA is still microscopic compared to golf, basketball, nascar, boxing, or any of the dozens of sports that have existed for decades.

by Michaelthebox on Aug 31, 2009 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I personally don't get offended or surprised by the "disclosed" pay

Jordan Breen brings up a lot that what you see in disclosed pay is NOT all that these UFC fighters are getting. While I don’t have any real evidence of my own to back this up, I do feel that many UFC fighters are getting by just fine. The basis being that I haven’t heard of many UFC fighters being homeless or absolutely broke, and while a few have commented on UFC fighter pay, that small amount of fighters (I’d say 10) is not representative of the 200 or so fighters under UFC contract. There is always the possibility that these UFC fighters do not want to speak out against their employer, but the opposite could be true as well in that these UFC fighters are living just fine and have nothing to complain about.

by chrisbboy82 on Aug 31, 2009 3:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good payroll

That’s some good and fair pay. Except for Soszynski I think that a lot of fighters are getting what they deserve.

Gonzaga is earning a lot more than what I thought he could ear. I thought that he would have been cut if he lost that fight but it’s obvious that the UFC count on him if they pay him that much.

by JackO on Aug 31, 2009 5:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Soszynski didn’t get much for this fight, but he made a crapload of money on the fights he won sub of the night for. That’s how incentive systems are supposed to work. You get paid great when you perform and not so great when you fail to perform. Soszynski failed to perform versus Vera and took a hit in the wallet as a result.

by Steve4192 on Aug 31, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tuch’s “get hit in the balls, vomit your left nut out and keep fighting bonus” also wasn’t reported…

by mmalogic on Aug 31, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol. :)

Dana: “Here’s cash to pay for the hospital bills, and here’s a little some some for continuing the fight. thanks! and don’t worry, it’s in there somewhere, the doctors will be able to find it soon..”

by Anton Tabuena on Aug 31, 2009 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, 10k to get flat out raped by Gonzaga is not enough $$

by Patrick79x on Aug 31, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GG should get a new nickname:

The Homicidal Caveman.

They can use him to punish mid-tier HWs. He has flat out killed the lessar guys he has faced.

by Lynchman on Aug 31, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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