Dana White Realizes He Isn't God
Its been a quiet couple of month's for MMA's resident bully and you can sense that the double edged sword of mainstream growth for MMA has begun to point in his direction. During the early part of his tenure as the voice of the UFC, Dana constantly praised the internet fansites as an important cog in the MMA machine. He also praised other organizations and showed respect for their top fighters, all in the name of his love for the sport. Of course, the blue collar struggle ended, and thanks to the Ultimate Fighter, the UFC became the biggest organization in the fastest growing sport in the world. Dana went from an advocate, to a dictator.
Since the success of the Ultimate Fighter and the surging popularity of the sport, Dana began to turn on the very people who stuck by the sport when it was apparently dying, the internet bloggers, the daily forum posters, the people who bought tickets to every show we possibly could. We were a small bunch, and suddenly, because we had valid concerns regarding matchmaking and fighter pay, and because we watched other organizations besides the UFC, we were suddenly a colorful array of expletives with the words "idiot", "fanboy's" and "nobody's" not so cleverly inserted in his rants. Dana went on T.V. and showed off his cars, flaunted his material belonging's and bragged about his power. The funny thing is though, we are a fickle bunch, and Dana did'nt make the UFC popular, we did, and no matter what you call us, we are still more powerful than you, and here's why.
Randy Couture just received Fedor's contract, because Dana and the Fertitta's realize that as long as Dana is calling names, Fedor wont fight for the UFC. I dont blame the UFC for not co-promoting with M-1, but I admire Fedor and Co. for not budging. Because Dana now realized that he can buy all the houses and the Ferarri's in the world, but you cant buy a person, because for some of us, money doesnt buy respect. Brock Lesnar has also gotten a hefty raise and extension, securing his services for a long time to come, and the reason? Fedor is not in the UFC, and all of us "fanboy nerds" have been very vocal about who Fedor Emilianenko is, not to mention the mainstream has caught on, thanks to Dana's big mouth and promise to sign the number one heavyweight in the word.
Now, Dana is giving interviews to Sherdog. It's time for him to play nice because he has burned so many bridges in the industry, not being smart enough to realize that the industry is growing, and it's now bigger than he is. He said Fedor's name so much before the deal was sealed, the big news became Fedor signing to Strikeforce. Who is Strikeforce? Well, we know, and now thanks to Dana, the casual fan's know also. The sword is pointed at Dana now, and we are going to see a nicer Dana, but really, who cares? He stated anyone who does the EA video game will not be welcome in the UFC, yet he just secured a long term contract with the number 2 fighter on the game, because his poster boy, Randy Couture isnt even going to be on the cover. Dana, smart move ending the video blogs, because the biggest mistake the Fertitta's ever made was letting their bellhop buddy do whatever he wants.
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Interesting viewpoint. I’m not sure if I agree with a lot of it, but it’s well written. Rec’d.
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Randy had the contract with EA Sports a while back. It’s not like he just signed the contract in a blatant disregard to Dana’s stance on the video game. Why do you think he isn’t in UFC Undisputed? It’s not because he left the company. He was always signed to the UFC during that and was also listed as the heavyweight champion. Why do you think Arlovski and Tim Sylvia are in the game?
Uh, okay. I know all that, hence me saying I didn’t agree with most of it. I just appreciate a unique point of view sometimes. I’m not going to defend his honor or anything though.
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Easy Compadre. I was just sharing knowledge on the topic. Not initiating a debate.
by RyanHobbs on Aug 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I never stated Dana isnt succesful
For those of you informing me of Dana’s contributions, I am fully aware of what he’s done, it’s nothing short of impressive. As far as the argument
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 9:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, and he just re-signed before 102
I know about how Randy came to be in the EA game, and why he isn’t in Undisputed, my point was, Randy was signed to an extension before last night to assure he won’t fight Fedor.
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 9:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Then why did you bring up the video game?
by RyanHobbs on Aug 30, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I brought up the video game because a lot of great fighters will be in that game, and Dana has told the fans he will keep them out of the UFC. That is riduculous and we pay the price for Dana being pissed they aren’t the only game in town.
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 11:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you've got a bit of a hate on for Dana.
Frankly, nobody has done more to promote MMA than that guy. He may be a pig sometimes, but he’s a useful pig who just kept Couture in the game with a mondo cash deal.
Maybe you see ghosts flying around that offer – I just see the guy securing the biggest fan favourite in the game and paying him enough to rise the tide for all other fighters.
http://www.vancouversun.com/mma
“Dana, smart move ending the video blogs, because the biggest mistake the Fertitta’s ever made was letting their bellhop buddy do whatever he wants.”
Yeah, I bet they are VERY disappointed with what Dana has done to the UFC, turning their forty million dollar investment into a billion dollar business. Considering how poorly their casinos are doing they better thank their lucky stars Dana talked them into buying the UFC and turning it into what it is today.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 30, 2009 7:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Do you really think Fedor not being in the UFC is about name calling?
It’s money plain and simple. If the UFC agreed to co-promote with m-1 Dana could have called Fedor a fat retard and guess what Fedor would have signed.
The UFC offered what 5 million a fight to Fedor but M-1 saw if they co-promoted and split the profits it would go from about 5 to 15 million at least.
Him mending bridges isnt that he needs to do it. It’s that it doesnt hurt. Why not have as many people on your side as you can.
As for the casual fans “knowing Strikeforce” lets wait and see on that. Prediction is the Carano/Cyborg fight outdraws Fedor/Rogers on Showtime and I’m interested to see if and yes it is a if CBS will ever show mma again. If not Strikeforce can only go so far on Showtime.
The last thing I want to end with is Dana knows what he is doing. Yeah you take your cheap little shot at the end “the biggest mistake the Fertitta’s ever made was letting their bellhop buddy do whatever he wants”. You dont get a billion dollar company with some idiot at the head. Does it take a lot more people? Yes, Joe Silva, Lorenzo Fertita, Marc Ratner, etc.. all play a huge role but Dana isnt this idiot that is just gliding by.
When the UFC begins to fail let me know until then Dana is doing well. Everyone thinks if Dana wasnt in charge the UFC would be as big as the NFL or MLB well guess what those sports didnt start out huge it takes time. We are only 15 years in the UFC and only 9 under White so lets see how far he can continue to take this thing.
I don’t think Fedor will outdraw Carano/Cyborg. It will likely be 100,000+ short. And i don’t think a Carano/Cyborg rematch can even get that high again…. It was a one time thing….
by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 30, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Im not hoping for the UFC to fail
I hope it continues to grow, but I think Dana needs to be more business man and less hard headed dictator.
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 9:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Because he’s been doing poorly as a businessman up to this point? I don’t think Dana needs some keyboard warrior telling him how to do his job.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 30, 2009 10:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
thats a surprising comment
from someone with ufc in their name. Im curious , how come anyone with a computer and opinion a keyboard warrior? I thought guys that threaten people online were keyboard warriors.
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They can also be expert shit talkers.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
are you calling me an expert?
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 11:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In field of baseless shit talking
I would say you’re totally an expert there.
by Danny Dangerously on Aug 31, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't really a compliment
But i can understand how you might be confused.
by Danny Dangerously on Aug 31, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
i havent even talked shit
im just discussing, I don’t consider any of this talking shit.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My friend
Your ulterior motives with this post are quite transparent.
by Danny Dangerously on Aug 31, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
ok, enlighten me… is it that I don’t like Dana White? True. So what , do I have to like him? Is that not allowed? The title is pretty telling.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not liking him is fine
But that’s not what this is about. The whole post was just a hatefest in which you tried to extrapolate your personal bias into some bullshit quasi-argument against Dana and by extension the UFC.
In other words, thinly veiled shit talking.
by Danny Dangerously on Aug 31, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My friend
I love the UFC, always have always will. I don’t like Dana, never have and never will, but I would never stop watching the UFC because of Dana, this wasn’t an anti-ufc post by any means.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cool
But that has nothing to do with what i said or your meaningless, stupid bashing.
by Danny Dangerously on Aug 31, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Dana went from an advocate, to a dictator.
not being smart enough to realize that the industry is growing
Dana, smart move ending the video blogs, because the biggest mistake the Fertitta’s ever made was letting their bellhop buddy do whatever he wants.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 31, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Millen said 5 million per was completely false
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 11:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You listen to Jerry Millen’s deep thoughts?
You believe him?
sersly!?!?!?
Keep firing Assholes!
ZE GOGGLES! ZAY DO NOZING!!!!
by Ubernoober on Aug 31, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Millen? He refused to lick my balls...
And wanted to remove me from the event. Do I believe him? No. I was just saying what he told me. He said some craaaaazy shit to me about Dana too… Millens a little off, I was just saying what he told me…
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no...
just saying what he told me. I don’t like Jerry Millen, never claimed to believe him, just saying what he told me.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you don’t believe him, why quote him to prove a point?
Keep firing Assholes!
ZE GOGGLES! ZAY DO NOZING!!!!
I wasn’t trying to prove a point , I think im discussing and others are arguing, not trying to argue, I don’t know everything, I just wrote my opinion, I didn’t expect everyone to agree or disagree, but im not trying to argue. Just a fan like everyone else.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Millen said 5 million per was completely false
Who said that at around 11:36?
Keep firing Assholes!
ZE GOGGLES! ZAY DO NOZING!!!!
I never denied saying it. That’s what Millen said.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you're still blaming Dana White about Fedor
You didn’t pay attention during that whole fiasco
Or you’re a typical partisan hack.
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Aug 30, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This is one thing I have to comment on. Dana was to blame? By all acounts, Dana was very cordial during negotiations. Co-promotion was the reason.
Die hard fans know Fedor, but nobody else does. Why did Lesnar and Couture make more money? Because they put asses in the seats. Dana and Lorenzo were not thinking about Fedor at the time anymore than the rest of the country.
Fedor has headlined four ppvs that aired in the U.S. the total buys: less than 200k. He is not a draw in the U.S. Could that change? Sure, but it is going to take time and money.
by Lynchman on Aug 30, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Partisan? No sir.
I told Jerry Millen to suck my balls friday night in Kansas City, im not against the UFC .
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh Jesus, don’t tell me you’re from KC too.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
im a rams fan… youre gonna have a better season than me.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was being a smartass- but I am
a Chiefs fan.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 31, 2009 9:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The mainstream has caught onto Fedor? I would have to disagree there. He has not been and likely never will be a major draw without the UFC name behind him….
Exactly
All I keep heaering from the UFC haters the “true mma fans” is 2 things
1)Dana White said he was going to sign Fedor and so when Strikeforce signed Fedor the mainstream media is now going to pay attention to Strikeforce and Fedor
2)Scott Coker is a better businessman than Dana White. Dana White is a hack who got the job from 2 friends.
Ok so since the “true mma fans” believe #1 and #2 are true than Strikeforce should just explode onto the mma scene and easily become a huge threat to the UFC and that the UFC is in trouble. Strikeforce with Coker and Fedor is unstopable and will over take the UFC in a couple of years max.
So since Fedor and Strikeforce are now huge draws and Scott Coker is smarter than that “hack” Dana White lets see how long the balance of power in mma takes to go from the UFC to Strikeforce.
Now dont get me wrong I’m a Fedor fan I like the way he fights, I like Strikeforce they have put on entertaining fights so far, and I think Coker is a very smart man.
That being said Dana White is a lot smarter than he gets credit for and the UFC is not going anywhere.
So the question is what will the “true mma fans” have to say when the Fedor/Coker deal doesn’t overtake the UFC like they prayed for. They will look for “the next guy” that is going to dethrone Dana White and the UFC just because they dislike White as a person. Good Luck with that.
When did Strikeforce and Fedor become draws? I am a big Strikeforce fan, but drawing 500k viewers does not make them a huge draw.
Compared to lacrosse.
http://www.vancouversun.com/mma
by Ozzz on Aug 31, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
This made me smile.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
In the article
the writer states that because of Dana we all know and now the casual fans know who Fedor and Strikeforce are.
My whole point was anyone that thinks Fedor/Coker is gonna bust open mma shift the balance of power is kidding themselves.
A lot of people, Kid Nate among others think that Fedor with Showtime’s promotion is gonna become huge for Strikeforce, I dont but we will see.
I personally think we'll look back on the Fedor signing..
..as Strikeforce’s Seth Petruzzi moment.
http://www.vancouversun.com/mma
If by that you mean Fedor is gonna crush everyone he fights in Strikeforce like Petruzelli crushed Kimbo then yes.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 31, 2009 7:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True MMA fans?
I don’t want Strikeforce or Fedor to topple the UFC, I don’t miss a UFC ppv, I can’t put the video game down, Im a big fan of the UFC. Im a big fan of MMA period. Why do so many people turn these conversations into arguments about organizations vs. organizations? Dana said Chuck Lidell would fight in a backyard just to compete, i’d bring a lawn chair and watch, a “true MMA fan” isn’t rooting for an organization to win, they are rooting for fighters.
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yet your whole post bashes Dana
I watch all mma as well from UFC to Strikeforce, Dream etc..
But you sit here and bash Dana saying that his name calling was the reason the Fedor deal didnt get done when reality is the only thing was co-promotion.
If your a fan of the UFC dont write a post bashing their president and expect good feedback.
You can say you werent but taking shots like the bellhop remark are just asking for rebuttals.
I never said the bellhop comment wasn’t a shot, and I think its possible to be a fan of an org but not the president. I watch all MMA as well, I wrote this because I found it interesting that Dana has calmed down and secured Brock and Randy. As far as positive feedback, I didn’t expect it, just wanted to open some dialogue, that’s why I posted.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I find it funny when someone writes an article pointing out the faults of others leaves a grammatical error in the title.
Keep firing Assholes!
ZE GOGGLES! ZAY DO NOZING!!!!
by Ubernoober on Aug 30, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah? Well how about I blow your mind with this:
The correct quote is “The goggles do nothing.”
BOOSH
Were you Affliction’s business consultant by any chance? Pure drivel.
by Michael Rome on Aug 30, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 13 recs
Even worse- CFO of EliteXC.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 30, 2009 9:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no...
I wouldn’t co-promote with M-1 either, there is no reason for the UFC to ever co-promote with anyone. I don’t hate the UFC, I just don’t think Dana, as the most powerful force in MMA has to name call. MMA won’t reach true mainstream success as long as he’s cussing out fighters , promoters and fans. Good burn by the way, my feelings are CRUSHED.
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 9:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so all this because dana white says bad words?
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 30, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
No commisioners, presidents or spokesperson for the NFL, NBA or MLB talk like that.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and the thread finally disentegrates into an abbot and costello bit
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Aug 31, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dana keeps claiming it will be.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 1:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, because nothing is healthier than NBA and MLB right now.
Do the Red Sox draw a $5m live gate and $60m in PPV subs for home games?
http://www.vancouversun.com/mma
that’s comparing apples to oranges.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 1:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Big deal
It’s the thought behind the words that count; I don’t see someone swearing as any worse than someone eschewing these “bad” words and expressing the same bad thoughts in “less severe” language. If I get hurt and yell “PEN!” instead of “FUCK!” is the intention any different? Is it a different thought?
People get hung up on those seemingly magic words so much that they miss the larger messages, I’ll never understand it.
In the NBA or MLB they don’t punch each other in the face to figure out who is better.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 31, 2009 7:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, they punch each other in the face for other reasons.
by black dragon on Aug 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Randy Couture just received Fedor’s contract, because Dana and the Fertitta’s realize that as long as Dana is calling names, Fedor wont fight for the UFC. I dont blame the UFC for not co-promoting with M-1, but I admire Fedor and Co. for not budging. Because Dana now realized that he can buy all the houses and the Ferarri’s in the world, but you cant buy a person, because for some of us, money doesnt buy respect.
Writing three sentences where each contradicts it’s predecessor without a hint of irony is a better rebuttal than anything I can give myself.
by Simco on Aug 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Haha, fair enough. I think M-1 wanted too much with the co-promotion, but M-1 thinks different and they didn’t settle. Dana said he’d get Fedor and he didn’t. That’s all I was saying.
by RickDickulous on Aug 31, 2009 12:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why do you admire Fedor for not budging on co-promotion??
Co-promotion is a crazy demand, yet just the fact that he clings to that crazy demand deserves admiration? That’s silly. .
by Razzel on Aug 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
like RC cola trying to co-promote with Coke..
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 30, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Would that be CokeR Cola?
http://www.vancouversun.com/mma
by Ozzz on Aug 31, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well, if it were Coker Cola, it would be M-1 Presents: Coke Cola, Starring Fedor Emelianenko, the best fighter in the world, versus someone who isn’t the heavyweight champion.
So, the can would be crowded.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
Fedor would then fight the can.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 31, 2009 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Its Fedor’s choice to stick to his guns, I think its crazy too but the Fertitta’s looked crazy operating 40 million in the red, but they kept going. Who knows what’s gonna happen, but Fedor walked away from whatever the UFC offered, so yeah , I admire that.
by RickDickulous on Aug 30, 2009 11:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wait, i didn't get what you said.. you admire him because?
he walks away from a contract?
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 31, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Quick Question
If one were to, let’s say, cut off one’s nose to, I don’t know, maybe spite one’s face… would you consider that admirable?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 31, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
If you do it to try and get back at Dana White then yes.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 31, 2009 7:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Because there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that it would happen. It is business suicide.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
boxing does it all the time and is why we see huge fights like De La Hoya – Pac Man. Im not saying make it a normal practice, but in the event of a super fight, it would be awesome. How about in the pride days, we would have loved to see some of those fights.
Im playing devils advocate here.
Dont get down on Forrest, no one has moves like Anderson Silva.
So, about that Pacman – Mayweather fight, that is gonna be good right…when is it again?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Sep 1, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
See: RC Cola analogy.
See, it doesn’t sound as crazy when you say co-promotion, but think of it more like this: “In addition to possibly the most lucrative contract in the history of the sport, give me half your money so I can advertise my competing product.” Meanwhile, the UFC gains…the respect of BE commenters?
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see him in, but that’s real talk right thurr.
The ULTIMATE ultimate proving ground.
by Dodectagon on Sep 1, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because there is no way on earth that M1 can be responsible for 50% of the revenue/profit/whatever of the card, so there is no way that they should get it.
even with Fedor, it wouldnt be worth 50%? hypothetical here
Dont get down on Forrest, no one has moves like Anderson Silva.
Yes even with Fedor.
just look at the numbers.
Brock’s last fight got over 1.5 million PPV buys. Do you think Fedor could double that?
If a Fedor fight in the UFC does better than a previous card, it will only be because of the UFC promoting and pushing the fight. If M1 could promote and push Fedor the way the UFC could, they wouldn’t need to copromote, because they could do it on their own.
TS obviously has no idea what he’s talking about but that’s pretty usual when it involves these Dana haters. Dana plays a roll in the UFC that’s being the badguy, it’s not popular but it’s what seperates him from other orgs he only has 1 thing on his mind the longterm success of the UFC nothing else matters. The idea that a small number of hardcore fans made the UFC popular again after being off PPV shows just how delusional some people are the sheer self-importance of this guy is laughable.
The funniest part is when he tries to pass of Fedor’s stance as principalled while at the same time not realising that if the UFC had agreed to M1’s retarded demands Fedor wouldn’t care what names Dana called him. Again what kind of bizarro nonsense is that?, but to top it all of now Dana is playing nice? really has this guy missed the last few rants he’s gone on honestly get a clue.
Seriously before ever doing another post read the thing out loud and make sure you don’t sound like a guy who has no idea what’s going on. Dana is the reason the UFC is as successful as it is, by the day he and Zuffa are getting stronger and all the crying and whinning by fanboys means nothing. Because in the end Dana will always get the last laugh so just learn to love it because it won’t change.
this was written well....
but i don’t think it’s accurate at all. i don’t think dana white is the resident mma bully.
by cagefightonacid on Aug 31, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions
Dana has realized one thing...
Those russians really are crazy.
by Razzel on Aug 31, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not only are you late to the not-signing-Fedor party, but this is pretty awful stuff. I hate Brad Pitt because he’s handsome, has a beautiful wife and is great at what he does, but he won’t be offered contracts from certain studios and it doesn’t matter because he still takes 20 mill for every role he does. Real good.. Jake Shields is hot.
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Charles Awad on Aug 31, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
You pretty much echoed what I was thinking.
So basically, he wants Dana to forget about his primary concern, which is the UFC being a successful business. And give Fedor or any other fighter everything they wish so fans can get all of the fights that they want & because Fedor is God. I am upset w/myself for even reading this in hopes there would be some sort of point other than “Dana do what I want you to do!”
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Could people please refrain from Rec’ing garbage FanPosts? It pushes quality writing down the list.
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Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 31, 2009 1:30 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
You guys really need an option (as staff) to de-rec or move them down without deleting them.
Or at least start openly mocking people enough that they’ll disappear, like this thing that manages to appear at the bottom of fanposts on the mets blog here if they’re especially ridiculous:
ADDED BY AMAZIN’ AVENUE SITE BOT: This FanPost was created by a user just like you, except that this particular user has only basic motor skills and a third-grade education at his disposal. FanPosts such as these are a blight on this community and are only left intact so that they may serve as examples of what not to do.
The problem with that is people would thumbs down or de-rec or whatever you want to call it comments they just don’t agree with. It won’t just get rid of trolls. It will get rid of unpopular viewpoints.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 31, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not talking about everyone, I’m talking about just staff. You guys should be able to move a post from that sidebar. You can leave the 20 recs or whatever. This isn’t at all the worst example ever, but it stinks for you guys that it’s so easy to give garbage such prime real estate on the front page.
We can flat out hide posts, but we prefer not to.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
I really don’t get the “Dana White is an idiot” meme that is always floating around online mma discussion. If he’s such an idiot, why do you people get so upset about what he does? He’s just an idiot, so nothing he does matters.
I’m amazed at how (in some people’s minds) Dana can somehow be 100% responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to the UFC (not signing Fedor, for current example) yet 0% responsible for every good thing that happens.
Call him an asshole or a scumbag (I probably won’t agree) but don’t call him an idiot and then get all worked up about him. It just shows who the real idiots are.
I really wish this made sense
Unfortunately, what idiots do, say and think matter – their sheer numbers make this the case. Hence the 2000 and 2004 elections.
Not that I think Dana is an idiot or anything.
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
Surprised at the responses on here.
The author makes a couple good points…Strikeforce did get additional attention by winning the Fedor debacle, and Fedor was clearly a bit peeved about the ‘crazy russians’ comment. Obviously it’s not the primary cause of UFC not signing Fedor, but it didnt help.
The author is also very direct: he likes UFC and hates Dana. Many of the responses on here cross the line so much worse.
I mean dude is expressing an opinion. He can do that. He’s not making up rumors a trying to defame anyone here.
by Headkick on Aug 31, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He can express an opinion, but he also needs to accept what response that opinion will garner. He is also trying to defame Dana White.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 31, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
by ‘defame’, i meant defamation of character and the author makes no false statements about Dana . he just doesnt like him…
besides, Dana cant be defamed because he is infamous…. see he’s so famous, he’s in famous
You're shocked at the responses here?
How long have you been around? Here’s the formula – mention anything that disparages UFC or Dana. Within two seconds you will get comments disagreeing with the poster. Within 5 seconds you will have comments attacking the poster with name-calling. Within 10 seconds you will have comments justifying the name-calling.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Aug 31, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Bitter much? Write something that makes legitimate claims and takes a fair look at the matter and avoid shit like “bellhop buddy” and “dictator” and maybe you will get a better response.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 31, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Uh…what? I didn’t write this post; you realize that, right? I’m just commenting about posts like this and supremacy’s, and the same 5 or 6 people who get their panties in a bunch and write the same exact shit over and over and over and over and over and over…we get it. Dana White is perfect and beyond reproach.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Aug 31, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I made the comment based on your many whining comments acting the victim for other people against the big mean “DANA IS TEH BEST EVAH” bullies. Except those bullies don’t exist, rather people are getting called out for legitimate reasons.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If they keep making posts worth getting called out on, they will keep getting called out.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 31, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So it's one extreme or the other
Either Dana is an idiot bellhop dictator or perfect beyond reproach. Got it.
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
Can you people please
accept that the UFC is a business whose ultimate goal is to make money & cut out as much of the comp that they can? Pretty much like every person’s business model would be. Stop fucking whining. It’s not anyone giving a fuck if you disparage the UFC, it is the stupid fucking reasons like this retarded-ass fucking post & then you adding bullshit that people here are “dana defenders.” Please shut the fuck up or at least add posts about why you hate Microsoft or any other corporation.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Aug 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
BOOSH
And with that cliche
you are officially the worst poster on bloodyelbow
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Aug 31, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Supremacy writes fanposts 100000x better than this...
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never seen such excited lynchers here. Wow. Dude writes up an opinion piece and the frothing crowds come a running and their sabres clattering. You’re all so blinded by the rhetoric that you seem to miss the point.
The majority of posts around here are steeped in some kind of emotional bias. Which is fine as long as everyone agrees with it.
FWIW, I sort of liked it.
The majority of posts around here are steeped in some kind of emotional bias.
Which is what blogs are all about anyways.
http://twitter.com/FlyByKnite
The tone of the reactions
are in line with the tone of the original piece
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Sep 1, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
On Dana
I dont think you can make hostile comments about unsigned fighters and expect not to piss anyone off anymore than you can expect to become the largest MMA organization in the world and totally dominate all others without pissing anyone off. Dana knows this, but he is who he is. I think he is making efforts to portray the UFC with more class than before (eliminating the vlogs for one, doing more tv interviews, less bitching) and understands if he ever wants to fight in NY he needs to do that.
I however want to see Strikeforce succeed for two reasons:
1) It gives up and coming fighters more options and leverage. Having friends who are 10-2 type guys fighting in smaller promotions, it would be good for them to have a choice rather than having to accept what the ufc would offer (should they ever)
2) There is much more for us to talk about. Remember the UFC v Pride discussions? It gives bloggers something to talk about and the occasional dream match up.
Dont get down on Forrest, no one has moves like Anderson Silva.
I really think that if Strikeforce wasn’t around, Dana would be laying off quality fighters left and right.
by Dooda on Sep 1, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Based on what?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Sep 1, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The fact that Dana White is the Devil.
Haven’t you been paying attention?
by Phildo on Sep 1, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Based on my unique ability to see into alternate dimensions that parallel our own. You’ll probably have to take my word on that one.
It’s also based on the fact that Dana takes things personally all the time and let’s his emotions run things fairly regularly. When he doesn’t like quality fighters he does things like scratches their name from UFC history, washes their legendary fights from the record books, tries to humiliate them publicly as much as possible. With Strikeforce around he’s forced to do things like sign Tito Ortiz and Phil Baroni (okay he wasn’t forced to sign the latter, but you gotta admit he wouldn’t have offered a contract if Strikeforce wasn’t in the game).
It’s just my opinion, and my opinion is based on very little so don’t take it seriously. It’s probably good to never take me seriously. In fact it’s probably the right choice to take nothing here on this sight seriously.
Dana takes it personal and makes it personal
with the velveteen touch of a dandy fop
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
Oh, oh, lame joke I forgot to make earlier...
It’s a shame RickDickulous doesn’t realize Dana White isn’t the devil.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
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