Brock Lesnar's Technique Beat Frank Mir
I'd like to think that my Judo Chop on Brock Lesnar's impressive technical display of top control would have closed this issue, but clearly it hasn't. Last week, UFC welterweight Anthony Johnson joined the chorus of those demeaning Brock Lesnar's performance at UFC 100. Clearly more needs to be done.
Here's Lesnar's jiu jitsu trainer Rodrigo Comprido talking to Tatame.com about his student's performance:
I started to work with Brock after his first fight against Frank Mir. I personally follow the trainings and the guy learns very easily, when you see him fighting you can notice that he’s evolving a lot. I think his ground is strong, solid. We’re managing to make him confident in all areas.
Here's Lesnar trainer Erik Paulson talking to Sherdog:
"He stuck exactly to the game plan. We knew Frank was going to jump that half-guard as soon as he could on the ground," said Paulson. "The whole objective was to control him on the ground, control his hips. As far as the half-guard, it was to put him flat in the half-guard, not let him get on his side and get under your leg."
And if you don't believe Brock's coaches, perhaps his victim opponent Frank Mir carries more weight:
"It wasn't just because of his size that he was able to nullify my technique, but he used his size. He knew how to position his hips, and block my hips, and hold my arm. He did things that I didn't really expect because of his reach. I think I went in with too much of a gameplan, and I wanted it to go one way, and I tried to force it that way."
Sure Lesnar has many obvious physical advantages, but to me the scary thing about him is his discipline and willingness to learn. That makes him a truly scary force to be reckoned with.
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No doubt he put on a good performance, but in fairness to those putting him down, he did used to be a professional wrestler.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Aug 3, 2009 11:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
And why does this disqualify him from praise, ufc4?
That’s just wrong, man. Disregarding everything about someone just ’cause of his past employment reeks of pure prejudice.
by MetsGod on Aug 3, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what? Don't even reply....
…Your ignorance is as profound as the thousands of jackoffs in the vegas crowd who booed Lesnar…
by MetsGod on Aug 3, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lololololololol
It’s an ongoing joke – whenever someone defends Brock from attacks, someone says ‘to be fair, he was a professional wrestler’. I think I started it, actually.
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by subo on Aug 3, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I remember it being
you who got that particular boulder rolling.
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by misterjonez on Aug 3, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he was beign sarcastic
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
by Loot on Aug 3, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m assuming you read everyone’s responses below and now feel too stupid to reply, which is understandable, but for the record I was one of the VERY few people in the crowd that night that was actually cheering for him.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Aug 3, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the Johnson thing and thought
What a dumbass. I don’t know… I used to really like Johnson, but then he started talking shit about how GSP doesn’t like to mess up his “pretty face”. Maybe that’s just to start hyping a potential fight, I don’t know. I don’t think he’s even close to getting a shot at the title, but maybe he figures its never too soon to start the hype?
Thanks for this update Nate!
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by funnytiger on Aug 3, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnson needs to beat a top-20 opponent before he starts talking shit. He has never even won a fight in the UFC on a numbered card.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Aug 3, 2009 11:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson
is letting his few wins over sub par competition go to his head, the guy has skill, but I don’t see him beating the top 5, unless he lands that right hand, punchers chance. I see Fitch, Kos and GSP with his pretty face putting him on his back and pounding him into unconsciousness.
by proflex on Aug 3, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
I think anyone who says anything about GSP tends to piss people off…
Tho its prolly not that serious.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
by Loot on Aug 3, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who's pissed?
haven’t you heard? they’re just a collection of tiny dots on my TV!
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by funnytiger on Aug 3, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t say anything bad about GSP, it was actually Brock he was badmouting, the point is he needs to accomplish a helluva lot more in this sport before he calls out one champion and shit talks another.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Aug 3, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
victim opponent
victim/opponent?
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Aug 3, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks for catching
meant to get cute with a strikethrough and forgot. fixed now.
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by Kid Nate on Aug 3, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question for Mir:
Why on god’s green Earth would you want to utilize a half guard strategy against a guy his size and with his wrestling pedigree? Either Paulson is wrong and Mir just unluckily landed up in half guard, or Mir had the worst possible plan in his head for the ground game in this fight.
by AboveThisFire on Aug 3, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well Lesnar refused to stay down the one time
he landed in Mir’s full guard.
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by Kid Nate on Aug 3, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, and that was smart on his part, but if Mir’s plan was to play half guard… he was on drugs.
by AboveThisFire on Aug 3, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was simple arrogance on Mir's part.
His whole shtick about how he’s forgotten more than Brock has learned probably got him thinking that a basic approach on the ground would win the day.
The thing he forgot is that the entire BJJ world has yet to accept that half-guard is not a reasonably defensible position against top shelf wrestlers. The wrestling community hasn’t exactly pulled a collective Lesnar on this position, by any means, but Mir had a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of top control as viewed by a collegiate wrestler. He won’t make that mistake again, I’d assume, but it’s not like he can really stuff a takedown from a guy like Brock/Carwin/Velasquez.
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by misterjonez on Aug 3, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lesnars owned mir
mir did really have chance the first round and in second he got luckly punches in and then he taken down pounded down. and that proves you can’t talk that trash if you can’t back it up
by SHOWMAN 56 on Aug 3, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

"He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They've been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes." - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Deo Wade on Aug 3, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs

("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
by mythbuster on Aug 3, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like your response better.
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by subo on Aug 3, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged for trolling.
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by iiowyn on Aug 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume most of you didn’t get the backstage interviews with Brock & his coaches.. Brock stated that the original game plan was to keep the fight standing. He felt Mir couldn’t do much to him on the feet and that if need be he could always get the take down. Mir was the one that jumped guard in the initial take down. Mir got to close after he missed with a punch and tried to pull guard while sweeping his leg.. If you look closely on the first take down, Mir clearly looks to roll Lesnar’s leg into a kneebar. Brock countered by by sprawling and then pressing Mir’s hips and shoulders flat.. Then by keeping the weight shifted on Mir he used his reach to pound on him without giving up positioning. Basically, he has such a long reach that he can do vital damage without posturing up to generate force. It’s the combination of his reach and strength. You dont ned much distance with that kind of mass to generate force.. He never had to give up position to reach Mir. He could manage to stay flat controlling the hips and still land effective shots..
But in Brock’s interviews post fight he mentioned that the original game plan was to keep it standing and avoid the ground if necessary.. But that he was comfortable going to the ground if need be.. He said in the second round he kind of let the game plan go out the window and his wrestling mentality took over, thus he went for the take down.. The reason he stayed on the ground in the first was because he didn’t want to risk getting caught on his way up from Mir’s half guard. Thus he maintained his position to keep him flat. He said he felt Mir’s hips trying to shift when he did posture up, that’s why he held Mir’s neck in the rape choke.. But if watch closely, he jumps right back down on top of him flat to keep him from sweeping Brock.
by MMAuthority on Aug 3, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting stuff
got links?
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by Kid Nate on Aug 3, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll have to search to see If I can find them.. But I vaguely remember one of them being on his UFC post fight interview that was posted on UFC.com..
They asked if his game plan was to take the fight to the ground and he said it was actually to keep it standing, and try to use his reach against Mir.. He said he was ready and comfortable going to the ground, & the fight ended on the ground, but he said the original game plan was to keep it standing because in the first fight, they felt Brock easy picked Mir apart on the feet because of his reach and size. They thought He could utilize those part’s from the previous fight to his advantage again.. That’s why he came out throwing leg kicks.. The initial take down was done because both men were throwing punches at the same time and collided.. Brock’s momentum would have forced Frank down regardless so Frank jumped guard trying to catch Brock with the kneebar..
by MMAuthority on Aug 3, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember him
saying that the plan was to stay off the ground and play a striking game. I also remembered him saying he didn’t feel uncomfortable on the ground at all, but it was going against his gameplan to do so.
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by misterjonez on Aug 3, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's easy to say that he used his technique
…but the technique he used wouldn’t work for somebody without the size and strength advantage he has.
What I think Johnson was trying to say is that there were no techniques on display that most fighters don’t know. I don’t know how true that is, but Kid Nate’s previous article kinda supports that interpretation.
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by jemaleddin on Aug 3, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying he's a rocket scientist
I’m just saying that he’s using solid techniques that work for him. Tons of fighters use techniques that only work for them — Anderson Silva relies on speed, ditto GSP, BJ Penn uses his insane flexibility.
My take on the Johnson comments was that he was saying there was NO technique on display.
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by Kid Nate on Aug 3, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying he’s a rocket scientist
I think we found the understatement of the week, I’ll actually take Johnson seriously when he beats some one a little better then sub par. I would like to see how he would do against pretty boy GSP from his back.
by proflex on Aug 3, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right...
that’s like saying that one shouldn’t respect when a tall fighter is able to win on the strength of a jab because “it wouldn’t work if he was shorter” a part of the fight game is tailoring your style to your specific athletic abilities. Guys with less natural athletic gifts have to rely on deeper levels of technique or heart or whatever…guys who were blessed with size use the size…speed use the speed…etc
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 3, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But this all goes back to the fact that a lot of people – and a lot of fighters – question how he got that size and strength.
I’m just sayin’.
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by jemaleddin on Aug 3, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have that same question for Carwin?
Or do you just think that both of them are somehow eluding testing positive because Dana is fixing the tests? I mean really man come on. You can question all you want about when he was in WWE, but the reality is that you do not maintain that type of physique naturally if you initially obtained it artificially.
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by dnevil001 on Aug 3, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That really has to do with the kind of drugs a person takes, the age they take them at, their particular body chemistry…
For instance, I’ve heard people who have… EXPERIENCE… with this sort of thing say that since a) you can’t test for it, and b) his head looks like the poster child for it, there’s a good chance that he was taking HGH in college. But I’m not a doctor and I certainly don’t know enough to diagnose.
I just know: “Hey look it’s smoke! I wonder where smoke comes from!”
And to be perfectly honest: I give Brock more shit than other fighters because of his EXTREMELY VOCAL homophobia. I’m sure there are other guys in MMA who aren’t down with the gays, and I certainly don’t care which people voted yes or no on Prop 8. But telling a group of journalists to spread the word that he doesn’t like gay people is beyond the limits of what I can handle.
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by jemaleddin on Aug 3, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, your stmt about giving Brock shit over his retarded ass
gay comments is what this comes down to. So it is really not even worth getting into this with you, but Carwin is basically the exact same size as Lesnar. And taking anything, in the past tense, does not translate to keeping basically all of those gains without doing something to keep them. HGH is not some magical elixir that people can take one time in their life & somehow transform into fucking Conan. I am not willing to say anyone, in any sport is not juicing. But until that person does test positive, I do give them the benefit of the doubt.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Aug 3, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should just use this for any Brock comments you are about to post:
“I hate Brock because he does not like gay people. It is my right to hate him because he hates gay people, but he has no right to hate gay people!”
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by dnevil001 on Aug 3, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate? Why would I hate Brock? He’s a little collection of glowing dots on my TV. Who has time to hate somebody they’ll never meet? Are you huffing paint or something?
Besides which, hating a specific person is very different for hating an entire group of people. I’m sorry that you don’t understand that.
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by jemaleddin on Aug 3, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You stated yourself that you dislike Brock & give him shit simply
for his views. Am I mistaken in that respect? My only point is that you simply seem to just pile on anything negative without giving much thought at all, which surprises me about because although you are a real smartass you normally seem to be semi-reasonable. And you seem to spend quite a bit of time commenting on that “little collection of dots on your tv” that you do not care about enough to hate, lol. But whatever you say dude, if that is how you view yourself more power to ya! And since you are a Carwin fan, I propose if you suspect Lesnar is/was juicing then you must consider the same for Carwin who is the same size & Lord knows it is impossible for anyone to be bigger than those of us who post here!
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by dnevil001 on Aug 3, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson also said that Carwin and Velasquez would destroy Lesnar.
And that his TKO of Mir was boring. It’s obvious the only reason he thought the fight was boring was because he was rooting for Mir.
by Lewish on Aug 3, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That could very well be true. But it doesn’t mean that he’s an idiot. I’m not arguing any of those points, just saying that the point he didn’t make very well may be valid.
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by jemaleddin on Aug 3, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So enlighten us
what was the point that Johnson didn’t make that is valid?
by proflex on Aug 3, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That the techniques that Brock used were pretty basic. He said that at first, then Cofield changed it in his questioning to suggest that Johnson had said that he didn’t have any technique at all, and Johnson wasn’t a very sophisticated debater and didn’t catch on.
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by jemaleddin on Aug 3, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok I’ve waited 10 minutes and there has yet to be a master debater joke. I’m deeply disappointed.
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by Day Man on Aug 3, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My deepest apologies.
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by jemaleddin on Aug 3, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have nothing to be sorry for. You can’t be expected to lob the slow pitch and hit the home run.
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by Day Man on Aug 3, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If all these fighters are so BUTTHURT about what went down between Brock and Frank, they better shut up now or Brock’s gonna act up after his next victory too.
Anderson Silva is a jerk because he uses his length and speed…GSP is a “lay and pray” artist…
Are people out of their fucking minds? Brock isn’t unbeatable because of his size, and if your fighting 220 and too damn lazy to cut the weight, then too damn bad. You knew how big a heavyweight could potentially get when you signed the contract, so quit bitching…seriously.
I like Brock, he’s not my favorite fighter…but I still feel bad when all these people gotta run their mouths about the guy when in reality, his performance should have shut up the doubters.
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by kyfm621 on Aug 3, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“and if your fighting 220 and too damn lazy to cut the weight, then too damn bad. "
Thank you. Everybody cries that we need to create a new division when somebody like Brock comes along, no one was bitching when Tim Sylvia was coming into the cage at 280+ on fight night.
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by ufc4 on Aug 3, 2009 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That is because Sylvia didn't defeat Randy! lol
Plus Timmeh drinks Bud Light & apparently loves the gays!
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by dnevil001 on Aug 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, once again, to be fair,
Tim Sylvia was never a professional wrestler.
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by subo on Aug 3, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long is that going to last?
I think lesnar going from WWE to MMA is better then your carrer going down the thunderbox and then going to wrestling….
timmeh in wrestling will happen… where else can he go?
by Beren on Aug 3, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, I love these new guys
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by ufc4 on Aug 3, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless what anyone says or thinks.. It’s technique no matter how you slice it.. It can be orthodox or unorthodox.. but it’s “his” technique either way.. He has been a Division 1 National Wrestling Champion with over a 100 matches.. Of course he knows how to hold people down and utilize his weight and balance.. That’s the first thing they teach in wrestling.. It just so happens that he is extremely big and agile too. Not only is he big but he is very wide.. With his size and core strength, I see it difficult for a lot of people to out muscle him.. It’s not just his size that’s an advantage.. He isn’t the “biggest” HW ever nor do I personally feel he is the strongest. But he is one of the very “few” that are athletic enough to make it a bad fight for a lot of guys.. Most big guys dont have the speed and agility that he possesses.. How many 280 lbs’ers do you know that can run a 4.7 40 yard dash ?? How many 280 lbs men do you know that have an 81+ inch reach with the speed of a 200 lbs’er ?? How many men his size have you known to possess the athletic ability he has coupled with his other physical attributes ?? He’s not just big, he’s big, strong & athletic.. He’s a complete package.. Now as time progresses and he learns to fine tune the intricacies of the fight game, he’s going to get better & better.. B ut to argue that he is merely a big loaf with strength is absurd.. The guy is just as athletic as GSP… Just with a much bigger frame… Thats the scary part..
by MMAuthority on Aug 3, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Who do you think the strongest HW is if not Brock?
by Patrick79x on Aug 3, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it’s hard to determine who is exactly the strongest of them all, however I’ve seen Tank Abbott benching 600 lbs multiple times.. I have seen Bob Sapp squat 800 lbs.. I’m just saying in relative terms I doubt Brock is the strongest HW fighter.. He’s strong, but being the strongest doesn’t equate to automatic success.. He’s a mere physically gifted man that knows how to “utilize” his gifts and apply them where need be in his sport..
So the argument as to who is exactly the strongest is a moot point in all honesty.. It’s basically irrelevant to be honest…
by MMAuthority on Aug 3, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about POWER?
Aren’t Strength and Power two different things?
I think Brock has A LOT of Power….
by MetsGod on Aug 3, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock does have a lot of power.. Force x Mass = motion..
Strength & power are 2 different things.. That’s why Brock is so unique.. Because is has a full arsenal at his disposure.. He has the strength, power, speed, agility, size, stamina & reach.. Then to top it all off, he knows how to use them correctly.. He’s not just some lumbering big guy that lacks on certain things.. He’s every bit as athletic as an NFL running back, or an NBA power forward.. Just abnormally bigger than the average amount of guys with his gift’s.. Most guys dont get the total package, so they make up in one or the other for what they lack on some.. He has a bit of them all and uses them all very well and efficient.. Let’s also not overlook that he could have very easily been an olympic gold medalist had he chose to bypass the big money and sit out a couple years untill the Olympics rolled back around.. He chose the WWE and instant cash.. Who can blame the guy ?? But that doesnt take away from the type of athlete he truly is..
If people are fearing him now.. He’s only going to get better.. Which makes it harder for guys to deal with.. The best time to catch someone like him or a GSP is in the early stagesof their careers, because once they hit their stride, they become too much to deal with.. The next time you’ll see one of them losing is the next time they take a mental day off during competition.. Otherwise they’re top of the food chain athlete’s in their respective weight classes…
by MMAuthority on Aug 3, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post, authority.
The lone point that was omitted is the comps to GSP/Penn/A. Silva and their unique physical gifts.
I’d guess there’s a strong correlation between fans who love Fedor/Royce and fans who hate Brock Lesnar, and I don’t think it’s because of his WWE background. I think us nerds get a little caught up in our anti-jock high-school phase. Just think about it for a minute.
Martial arts has, for at least the last forty years or so, been an accepted mainstream outlet for the frustration of physically less gifted people to level the playing field against bigger, stronger guys. So naturally there are two main groups that fall into this: 1. physically less capable men (nerds) and 2. women. I think so many people take Brock’s success negatively because it brings out their latent jock-o-phobia, and their lone bastion for hope against the big dumb jocks is being taken away from them before their very eyes.
This has been inevitable, though. For years this whole sport has been evolving, and a major part of that evolution is the improvement of the physical attributes of the competitors at the highest levels. It’s just life, people. Evolve, or die.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Aug 3, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And look,
I may be 6’3" with a fighting weight of 185, but I’m just as big of a nerd as anyone here.
The fact that I could bench 310 in high-school didn’t really change my mentality, so I’m not pulling an Ogre here.
NEEEEERRRRRRRRRDDSSSS!!!!
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by misterjonez on Aug 3, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to agree. Seeing Royce beat guys significantly stronger than him was a very clear statement that technique is extremely important in MMA but did anyone not think that a guy at the same level of technique that happened to be a much better athlete wouldn’t pound him into the ground? We’re reaching that next step in MMA.
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by Day Man on Aug 3, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the scary thing about him is his discipline and willingness to learn. That makes him a truly scary force to be reckoned with.
PREACH!
by ryanwk628 on Aug 3, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Size and Strength
are a huge part of Brock’s game, but not even close to “all he’s got”.
All the haters will be silenced when Brock takes Carwin to the mat and puts him in “The Lesnar”, just like he did to Mir.
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by nandez44 on Aug 6, 2009 4:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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