Lawal wants more cans to crush
by baldspot23 on Aug 29, 2009 12:09 PM EDT
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Lawal put the boots to ufc veteran Mark Kerr last night in kansas city...it took him all but 25 seconds to finish the fight
he is a very impressive young prospect, and i cant wait to see king Mo step it up in competition a little bit.
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Lawal performed exactly how he should have performed in a fight with someone like Kerr. Go out there, get your money, and look good doing it. The only question now is: where will Mo end up fighting next.
“I’m just trying to go where they keep me busy and treat me good,” explained Lawal following the bout. “I don’t care about any names or anything like that. I’m just trying to go where I can get paid, they treat me good and I can fight a lot.”
that quote kind of bothers me, so hes happy fighting cans forever as long as he can fight every 2 months and they will pay him well? i guess M1 would be the place for that then, i think most athletes are in this sport because of the competition/challenge....im trying not to be too hard on the guy because hes new and theres no sense in him fighting top ten compettion yet, that quote just rubbed me the wrong way. the same way that bispings quote after the chris leben fight was something to the effect of " we planned to go the distance the whole time", really???? most fighters train to finish the fight as quickly as possible, not for decisions!! well at least thats what i choose to believe.
so will Lawal be coming to the ufc soon or will he be happy fighting inferior opponents for m1? what say u?
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Collision Course with Mousasi?
I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about this matchup. It’s bound to happen sooner or later as both are running out of competitive non-UFC fights…
I’m not talking about it because it wouldn’t even be competitive at this point in time. It will be a year (or even a few years) before Mo reaches the talent level of Mousasi. I don’t even really buy into the Mousasi hype that much, but I do recognize that he’s far superior to Lawal. King Mo has a great wrestling game that he could, in theory, use to hold Gegard down for three rounds in much the same way that other fighters have done. But that isn’t Mo’s style, and he would quickly find himself face-down on the canvas. And that’s not even including the fact that Gegard’s grappling game is likely a few notches above.
By the time King Mo becomes a fighter that could compete at the near-top, Mousasi will probably already have lost to somebody else and/or moved back down or up to heavyweight. I’m sure King Mo will still be hyped in a year but I doubt he will have fought anybody good by then.
Personally, I think the best match-up at this juncture is Bobby Lashley vs. King Mo. We’ll actually get to see some rasslin’ put on display and it will sort of one of those guys.
I agree that Gegard would be the favorite, but...
I sort of also think Lawal is going to surprise people with how quickly he improves… and right now he’s clearly fighting better guys @ practice than he’s being matched up with in his pro fights (and in a team that practically specializes in turning elite wrestlers into MMA fighters). I guess all I really mean is that the 205 div is so thoroughly locked up by the UFC right now, he’s literally in a “virtual division” that looks like this:
Sokodjou (teammate?), Babalu, Bobby Southworth (?), um… Mike Whitehead, Houston Alexander (?), Kevin Randleman…
And I think he’s already at a point where he could be taking on any of these guys above, and would have a decent shot at running through that list. Outside the UFC, I don’t think fighters really get to avoid bigger matchups that are available, such is the shortage of LHW names to make a card or legitimize an org. It could happen in Japan, but Mo is fighting stateside now too.
On a side note, I think him fighting in the US also increases the likelihood of us seeing him in a cage at some point, where I think he’ll be able to put his wrestling background to better use and show us that much more.
I believe Mousasi said he can no longer make 185, someone correct me if I’m wrong.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hmmm
King Mo has a great wrestling game that he could, in theory, use to hold Gegard down for three rounds in much the same way that other fighters have done.
Gegard’s never dropped a decision from someone controlling him on top. His only 2 losses are earlier in his career, due to submission.
Mousasi by shitkick
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 30, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
He has 5 pro MMA fights.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 29, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
So does Brock Lesnar.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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that would be an awesome fight but for some reason i dont think that m1 will set this fight up….maybe strikeforce could but if both these guys are managed by M1 then i doubt itll happen in strikeforce either
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thats why i put this in there
“im trying not to be too hard on the guy because hes new and theres no sense in him fighting top ten compettion yet, that quote just rubbed me the wrong way.”
i just dont like the whole i dont care about who i fight stuff….so you will be happy to fight no names as long as your paid a bunch to do it?
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oh and btw if he really doesnt like rampage then he knows where he is and where the good fights are at…and its not im m1 global
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If the ufc pays right and treats him right, I am sure they would no problem goin to the ufc.
Mma fans really need to understand the money side of the sport before they claim fighters are ducking other fighters.
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by ekc on Aug 29, 2009 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He hasn’t trained with hendo in a year and is not at all associated with team quest. This is a fact. He trains more like a boxer with one head trainer and brings in people for his camp.
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by ekc on Aug 29, 2009 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Now come on bro! Lawal never said he wanted to fight cans! You just put him in a no win situation. If he says, I want to fight lesner, people call him an ass. And he has gone on the record many times saying he ain’t calling out fighters yet cuz he is still a rookie at this. But he did call out rampage after all the disrespectuctfull shit rampage said. Rembember, he didn’t choose kerr.
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by ekc on Aug 29, 2009 1:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I have to agree
While that quote can be taken in the way that Lawal wants to fight cans, it can be taken that he will fight ALL comers, not just cans. I just don’t like that this quote was IMMEDIATELY taken as the MOST negative way instead of looking at it from other viewpoints.
I don’t see a problem with what he said. Not everybody is interested in being the world’s greatest fighter.
You’re right, not everybody is, but if you’re a PROFESSIONAL FUCKING FIGHTER you should be.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 2:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You can be a professional engineer and not be on a quest to be the best one in the universe.
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That’s wonderful but what does it have to do with fighting? If he isn’t trying to be the best why does he train?
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 2:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sometimes people just want to get paid. Not every professional fighter wants to be the GOAT, sometimes they just want the money and fame. He’ll probably never become a champion, but he’ll make a decent living.
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If he’s trying to get paid wouldn’t it make sense to be the best he can be? Great fighters typically make more money than mediocre ones.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ufc is way off here.
Its safe to assume there are fighters who fight for the money and not the competition.
ubernoober’s engineer example sums it up well.
by Gerrymanderer on Aug 29, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not the part that bothers me, they ALL fight for money, none of them are going to do this for free. What I’m saying is they should always strive to be the best they can because the better they are the more money they will make.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You just keep stating the obvious. Ofcourse if you are the best at what you do, you get paid more. Thats true for almost every aspect of life.
The guy has been a pro for less than a year. He is trying to earn. How do you think this guy pays for traveling to Brazil, ATT, and all the other places around the world he trains? He wants to keep fighting and keep getting paid. Whats wrong with that? The fact that he didnt include the same old recycled “I’m trying to be the GOAT” quote?
Why are you bitching at me, I’m
not the one who wrote the article, and the premise was that he’s not trying to be the best he’s just trying to earn a check. I never agreed or disagreed with that, I was just giving my thoughts IF it was true.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If they fight just for the money then they probably don’t do it for long. Unless you are at the top of the sport and training to the point of obsesssion then you just don’t last very long in any professional sport. As a professional engineer you can be good enough working a 9 to 5 job to make a living at it, as a professional athlete you just won’t get that far with that kind of attitude.
Making money is always going to be important (by definition “professional sports” are about the money) but who is going to train and sacrifice like that just for a couple of half assed paychecks for fighting? Lets not act like Mo picked up some big payday off M-1 here, if he’s just fighting for the money then he might as well just take the King Mo gimmick to Japanese pro wrestling.
Thank you, my point exactly.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1. You can be an engineer for decades and decades and decades but a professional athlete’s career is very limited. Heck one of the things that makes for a really good engineer (and I know several world class engineers) is decades of experience; engineers Randy or Chuck’s age are just getting towards the middle of their careers as engineers.
2. Professional sports and a professional career are completely different things on several levels. Lets face it no professional sport is a 9 to 5 job. There are different career expectations and different career goals and lets face it there is just a world of difference between working a normal career and playing a professional sport.
3. If your goal in MMA is to just make a bunch of money then you are a moron. You better live and breath this shit if you want to make any money at it and being the best better be at the top of your list of goals, losers don’t make money and have very very short careers. Mo knows that, he was a very accomplished amateur wrestler. When not only your pay but your entire ablility to have a career is 100% performance based (like it is in professional sports) then you better darn well be obsessed with being the best you can possibly be at it. There is no good enough in professional sports.
4. King Mo has only had 5 professional MMA fights, at this point in his career pretty much every fight is going to be a challenge. People shouldn’t ride him too hard at this point in his career, likewise people shouldn’t over-rate him at this point either. He’s got a great gimmick for getting himself attention but he’s still got a long way to go in this sport. Perhaps it’s just too early in his MMA career to read too much into these kinds of statements.
Yeah, because it’s completely different than any other profession. Does the worlds best engineer get multi-million dollar endorsement deals?
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 3:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sometimes they do.
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by Ubernoober on Aug 29, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, the world’s best engineer will get multi-million dollar jobs.
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That’s not what I said, the best pro athletes get millions to do their job and millions more to be a public face, often times more
money than they get at their actual job.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They play a game. Why are they getting paid millions again? MMA is different, though.
I have no problem with Mo saying he’s in it for the money. Good for him.
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I agree with this. If a fighter’s lone goal is to be the GOAT, that’s great. If he just wants to make money, that’s great too. I don’t understand why we hold them to some higher standard. I don’t get pissy when actors or directors or musicians aren’t trying to be the GOAT in their fields.
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But the point is it is in their best interest to aim for GOAT because they are the ones who get the most money.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Seems like you’re using the MMA version of Pascal’s Wager.
Maybe some guys want to make a comfortable living without too much risk of serious injury? Maybe they enjoy beating up on some dudes every so often?
Still, I still am confused why this criticism is being bestowed on Mo of all people. He’s had five pro fights. Maybe he and/or his management have a career plan for him. Let’s give the guy a break.
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Well I’m looking at this from the viewpoint that he’s trying to make the most money possible. If that’s the case then he should be continually trying to improve. I’m not even sure if the guy who wrote this is taking the right view but if he was and Mo wants to maximize his value he needs to keep working hard and get better.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 5:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow…can’t believe you are basing all this off of one quote. If a fighter wants to make a living, make money, while gaining experience, good for them. Keyboard warriors criticizing athletes, in this case one of the best in the world, is the funniest thing ever.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 29, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
While in general I agree with you on this I still have to point and laugh at “one of the best in the world”. He’s only had 5 fights and hasn’t fought anyone of rank yet, perhaps it’s a bit too early to be putting him on any pound for pound list just yet. Seriously I think one of the biggest issues here is that people are way over-rating the guy at this point, I mean who are they expecting him to fight at this point in his career?
I mean who are they expecting him to fight at this point in his career?
People that he can build himself up against. Which is what he’s doing. And he’s getting paid while doing it.
He’s living the American Dream. I applaud him.
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I don’t know if I would call it the American Dream but he is on the path too it. He’s not quite to the mansion and a yacht level yet.
Is that your idea of the American Dream? Owning a mansion and a yacht?
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I’m not sure if this is what Supremacy meant, but it’s not a stretch to call Mo one of the top athletes in the world.
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He was a division 1 All American who almost made the Olympic team so yea that would count for something (although there are lots of All Americans out there) but as far as MMA goes he hasn’t done squat yet so I guess it would come down to how you want to quantify it. Saying he’s ready to face Mousasi is a bit much being as he is yet to prove he is anywhere near that level yet. I’m a fan of Mo’s but come one people need to take a bit of a reality check here, without the King Mo gimmick he’d just be another lightheavyweight lost in the crowd.
Once again, I didn’t write this article. I guess I shouldn’t have chosen to defend the viewpoint given cuz everyone is piling on me like I wrote it.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Did you watch the fight?
King Mo weighed in at 219 and lifted a 260 pound man in the air using a single leg crotch lift and slammed him to the ground. King Mo is a world class wrestler, one of the few wrestlers in MMA that have won a Freestyle World Championship. A lot of the MMA fighters who are ex collegiate all-americans and champions never came close to successfully wrestling internationally, far less winning worlds. Randy, Hendo, and Lindland were all phenomenal Greco guys, but Freestyle is a different beast. King Mo will continue to improve his stand up and find a great camp to consistently work with. He will probably make the cut down to 205 and you could see him man handle people. I am not saying he is one of the best fighters right now, but he has to be one of the top 5 overall MMA prospects right now.
Sorry, Incorrect Info
Mo won 2008 Nationals, not Worlds. However, he was the number one ranked Freestyle wrestle in the world at his weight class for 2 years in a row. Joe Warren, feather weight World Champ 2007 & 2006, Daniel Cromier, Olympics (2004 & 2008)just announced his entrance into MMA, and Ben Askren, Olympics 2008, are the only other guys that I know of right now in MMA with World Class Freestyle wrestling experience.
The highest priorities for any prospect should be to develop and to make enough money to continue. If I were managing Lawal that’s what I’d care about too at this particular juncture in his career, a steady stream of opponents and income.
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by Dodectagon on Aug 29, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
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This recent silliness of “if you don’t suckle at the teets of the UFC, then you just want to fight cans” thing is getting a bit out of hand.
by mythbuster on Aug 29, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Where is the best competition, inside the UFC or outside? I’m not saying he should necessarily go there right now but that should be the ultimate goal. Do you ever hear any college football players talking about wanting to play in the CFL or the (now defunct) Arena League?
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That’s not a fair comparison, since it isn’t the NFL that pays them but rather the teams. I don’t hear most football players saying they want to play for a certain team, instead they play for whoever pays them the most money.
A better comparison would be amateur wrestling where some wrestlers are starting to choose MMA over Olympic gold.
If there was no NFL there would be no teams, the majority of their money comes from national tv which comes from the NFL. There would be NHL and NBA teams bankrupt right now if not for the financial backing of the leagues.
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by mythbuster on Aug 29, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Troll. Flagged. Take this crap to the UG and Sherdog.
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Just because you didn’t understand its relevance to the post I replied to doesn’t make it a troll.
And I think we all get it by now… you are going to call me a troll, say I’m playing the victim, and flag (and tell me you flagged) every post I make. Dude, my eyes don’t roll high enough. I thought we agreed you would just flag my posts and be done with it?
Shit, save yourself the time and send a mod of your choice an email telling them to auto flag all my posts for you, and I’ll just mentally insert a “you’re a victim playing troll – love iiowyn” after every post I make.
Seriously dude, get over whatever friggin’ vendetta you have against me. I’ve been nothing but nice to everyone on this site, haven’t bashed any fighters or any users – so get the fuck off my back.
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If he believes the UFC is offering him enough.
This is not directed at you, but the “he should be happy just to be fighting in the UFC” mentality reminds me when I played football team at the University of Minnesota (in full disclosure – I sucked). Many of the players, especially the best players, would spend nights complaining how unfair it was that the schools and coaches made millions off of them and all they got was a scholarship. When I would tell this to my football loving buddies they couldn’t believe it. " I would be happy playing for nothing" They’d tell me. And I would tell them, of course you would because you’re not good enough to play college football.
Reminds me of Chicago radio this week dressing down Milton Bradley for being a clubhouse cancer. Blah blah blah, suck it up, millions of people would do what you do for free blah blah blah. If they actually had the talent, they wouldn’t.
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This is a weird thing to get upset about. If Lawal is serious about following the money, and he’s able to make the best of his considerable talents, he’ll follow it right to the top of the heap in whatever division he ultimately chooses. That’s where the money is, and he surely knows it.
That’s what I’m saying, if he wants to get the most money he can as a fighter it’s not gonna happen in the minor leagues and he will only get it if he continues to improve.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But he is not going to be able to fight every 2 months in the UFC, and I think thats his point. He hasn’t even been fighting professionally for a year. Apparently unless you start your career in the UFC you aren’t trying to the best or something.
I never said that, I stated earlier that he shouldn’t necessarily sign with them right now but that should be the ultimate goal.
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well we will find out if it is or not soon enough
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by ufc4 on Aug 29, 2009 6:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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