UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira Predictions
UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira Predictions
August 29, 2009
Rose Garden Arena in Portland, Oregon
Main Card:
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Randy Couture
Luke Thomas: Where Nogueira has weathered and rusted, Couture has managed to polish and maintain. For me, Couture's submission defense (and yes, the grappling match against Jacare is informative) and reaction speed are going to be enough. And have you noticed the only person repeating the defeated talking point that Couture's weakness is big guys with good ground games is Ed Soares? Gonzaga is stronger and a better wrestler than Nogueira and he couldn't stop the takedown or prevent Couture from delivering punishment. Granted, Nogueira is a guard player at heart and more willing and seemingly able to submission hunt from his back in MMA than Gonzaga, but I don't expect Couture to fight Nog on his best terms until he's been considerably softened. And given that the fight is only for three rounds, I also expect Couture's pace to be relentless. Couture via decision.
Kid Nate: I'm going to pretend that I'm 100% confident that Nogueira will enter the Octagon in the best shape we've seen him since his UFC debut against Heath Herring. Given that assumption, I think Big Nog can outpoint the Natural as long as he can keep the fight out of the clinch and away from the fence. But that won't be enough as Randy will be able to force him against the cage eventually and score with dirty boxing and takedowns (that is if Big Nog doesn't pull guard first). But Big Nog's submission game is going to be stifled up against the cage and Randy will score effective GnP from the top. Couture by decision.
Brent Brookhouse: I've said it several times, when I talk about Nogueira's fall I'm not just looking at the Mir fight. I spent the last week going back and rewatching Nog's last 10 fights and you can see things slowing down in terms of reaction time. Randy can still work his game, especially against guys who aren't significantly bigger than him. While nothing would make me happier than to see Minotauro become a force in the division once again (I am an MMA fan today in large part thanks to him) I just don't see it happening. Randy Couture by TKO, round 2.
Michael Rome: I don't mean any disrespect to Nogueira, but I just don't see him winning here. His boxing has looked poor of late, his reaction time and accuracy have declined rapidly, and I haven't seen a similar decline in Couture. For all his faults, Randy is constantly learning and adding new skills. Nogueira is the same fighter he's always been, training to achieve a past level of ability. I may have egg on my face at the end of the night, but I think this is going to be a beating. Even if Nog comes out on fire standing, Randy has the style and ability to take him down and hurt him without getting submitted. Randy Couture via decision.
Mike Fagan: I don't think the Fall of Nog is as imminent as everyone else, but I'm still unsure what I think of this fight. Couture presents a style and an understanding of MMA that will make it very difficult for Nogueira to finish him. Still, I think people are sleeping a bit on Nogueira's standup, especially given his height and reach advantage. My heart says Nog, my head says Randy, and because I expect most people to pick the Natural, I'll take Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira by decision.
Eugene Schelfaut: Randy will dictate the placement of the fight against his larger opponent. Randy will be quicker for longer. He can score in half-guard and against the cage. Nogueira's career is not over I'm guessing, but I just cannot wish myself into his submission victory. Randy Couture by TKO, round 3.
Leland Roling: Randy's age versus Nogueira's perceived age in MMA years is the ultimate question. While Randy is 46, he has shown massive strength, unbelievable work ethic, intelligence in the Octagon, and a knack for finding ways to win. His boxing seems to be improving nicely for this fight as well, and he does have the knowledge of the submission game to avoid any trickery from Nogueira. Nogueira's problem still relies on the fact that he's likely over 50 in MMA years in terms of taking so much punishment that his chin has weakened. I think Randy is going to put Nogueira into his world and push a frantic pace over three rounds. Randy Couture via TKO, Round 3.
Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
Luke Thomas: This is the sort of fight where the favorite (Jardine) has the tools to win the fight in terms of distancing, conditioning, and yes, wrestling, but has been known to abandon those tools in favor of some other end he's trying to reach. Silva has the power to make Jardine's night difficult, but there are issues about his conditioning, a problem Jardine does not have. The longer this fight goes, the more it favors Jardine. I honestly don't know who to pick here given that while Jardine is better, he also could easily collapse under the pressure Silva provides. Yes, Jardine defeated Vera, a far better fighter than Silva, but Vera is also hesitant. Silva is not. Will that be enough? I'm guessing not. Jardine by TKO, round 2.
Kid Nate: This fight is a conundrum. Jardine's awkward striking style could potentially confound Silva and win him a decision. On the other hand, Silva could easily reach Jardine's vulnerable chin early and end it quickly. The X factor to me is whether or not Silva could get the fight to the ground and keep it there. I think that Silva could finish Jardine if he can get dominant position on the ground. Since I can imagine two routes to victory for Silva and only one for Jardine, I'm going to pick Thiago Silva by TKO.
Brent Brookhouse: It's a battle of two guys with defensive liabilities. While Jardine works an awkward counterstriking style he has a very dentable chin and Silva is the hard charging all out guy who just leaves himself open to countershots. If I had more faith in Keith's chin I'd pick him by easy decision, but I think Thiago's power will catch him at some point and it will be the end. Thiago Silva by TKO, round 2.
Michael Rome: I have been a Thiago Silva skeptic for a long time. He has power, but he leaves his chin wide open and I think he's going to get tagged. He's also impatient, which I think will hurt him here. Either Silva wins early or Jardine wins a decision, I'm thinking the latter. Jardine via decision.
Mike Fagan: "The more I know, the less I know." Pretty much describes my feelings with Keith Jardine. The more tape I see of him, the less I understand his success at the upper levels of MMA. The fact that he's been steamrolled by two guys just adds to his enigma. Silva's a guy who can do that to him, and I think he has the go-forward mentality that will prevent him from being flummoxed by Jardine's herky-jerky movement. Thiago Silva by TKO, round 2.
Eugene Schelfaut: Reliving some of Silva's wins on the Countdown show has changed my mind on this fight. Silva will be drawn into exchanging with Jardine where he, Jardine, can outpoint for a decision. Keith Jardine by decision.
Leland Roling: The smart money is on Keith Jardine riding this one out to decision, but I'm going to bank on Thiago Silva coming out at a tenacious pace and tagging Jardine early. Silva's aggression should be the key to victory. Thiago Silva via TKO, Round 1.
Jake Rosholt vs. Chris Leben
Luke Thomas: I suspect Rosholt is rather rapidly going to get Leben to the floor and make him look bad. Hell, Rosholt may even force Leben into looking bad on the feet given some of Leben's sloppier tendencies. But Leben has good submission defense and crippling power, particularly for a fighter like Rosholt who has clear defensive liabilities standing. Leben via TKO, round 2.
Kid Nate: I can't believe I'm about to pick Chris Leben over one of the best pure wrestlers to ever enter MMA but I have been anything but impressed with Rosholt's ability to apply those skills in the cage. Rosholt has very rudimentary striking defense and Chris Leben hits really really hard. Leben by TKO.
Brent Brookhouse: I want to say I have faith in Rosholt here but his standup has looked pretty awful to this point in his career and Leben is a crafty veteran who can probably manage to stay on his feet long enough to do some damage. If Osterneck was rocking Rosholt frequently, Leben will put him to sleep. Chris Leben by KO, round 1.
Michael Rome: I like Rosholt, but I see him getting slept by Leben. He might even take a round, but eventually he's going to get cracked and I think he'll be in trouble. Leben via KO, round 3.
Mike Fagan: I love prospects, and I've been interested in Rosholt ever since I heard about him on the Jordan Breen Show. Unfortunately, after seeing Nissen Osterneck tee off on his face, I'm not sure how he will escape a big Leben left. Chris Leben by TKO, round 2.
Eugene Schelfaut: How many times can Rosholt get hit here? It seems like an experiment. Leben will be taken down, but will survive off of his back until a stand-up or the end of a round. It might be a Terry Martin type of a deal where Leben wins at the end of the 3rd, but Chris Leben wins by TKO.
Leland Roling: I'm going to go out on a limb in this fight. While Leben has the KO power to put Rosholt in his place, I don't think his BJJ skills are enough to stop the three-time NCAA D-I wrestler from smothering Leben and pressing his conditioning over the three rounds. I'm going with the upset bid. Jake Rosholt via unanimous decision.
Nate Marquardt vs. Demian Maia
Luke Thomas: The most interesting and most difficult fight on the card to forecast. It's impossible to deny that Marquardt's skill set is something Maia categorically has not faced in MMA competition. I also believe his defensive wrestling and submission avoidance (not just defense) is noteworthy. But I also believe Marquardt is error prone over the course of three rounds. He's recently been very over aggressive, something that will play directly into Maia's hands. Yes, Maia will struggle mightily. Yes, Jason MacDonald fought off submission attempts, but so what? MacDonald was still LOSING THE FIGHT. Just because Maia doesn't finish an opponent doesn't mean he can't win on points. Marquardt will hurt Maia and likely very badly, but his newfound aggression will ultimately be his undoing. Maia by decision.
Kid Nate: This is the fight of the night for the hardcore fans. Eighteen months ago this would have been a classic battle between a fighter (Marquardt) who is very well rounded but has no single standout skill against a fighter (Maia) who has only limited skills in one aspect of the game and absolute mastery of another. But Marquardt's re-emergence as a knock-out artist in his last few fights complicates matters. Still Maia's mastery of submission is no joke and his surprisingly good wrestling makes this very interesting. Based on a coin toss, I'm picking Marquardt by TKO.
Brent Brookhouse: Marquardt has the game to give Maia fits. I also think he is smart enough to not play around on the ground, despite his insistence that he can if he wants. While I understand that all Maia needs to get the fight down is pull guard, I also understand that Marquardt can likely ably survive until he stands back up ten seconds later. I don't think this will be as close as anyone thinks. Marquardt by dominating TKO, round 2.
Michael Rome: I am a Maia proponent and a Marquardt skeptic, so my pick is no mystery. Nate's MMA wrestling isn't that great, I think Maia can take him down, but I don't think it will be over at that point. I think this is Maia's night, I expect him to surprise Nate standing and then sub him. Maia via submission, round 1.
Mike Fagan: If I knew Demian could survive punishment like a prime Nog, I would take him in a heart beat here. I love both these guys, but I find that Nate gets too sloppy at times, in addition to having some poor technique (check out the gambling article for deets). I usually don't take too many underdogs for these predictions, but Demian Maia by submission, round 1 makes it 3 of 5 on the main card.
Eugene Schelfaut: Nate Marquardt will have to fight boring if he is to win here. Maia will capitalize on Marquardt's new zealous search for a finish, clinch and transition into his world from there. Demian Maia by submission, round 2.
Leland Roling: My heart says Maia, my mind says Marquardt. The telling sign that Marquardt can win is the MacDonald vs. Maia fight in which Maia had a hard time dealing with some of the strength that MacDonald presented. I don't think Maia can dominate Marquardt like he did MacDonald on the floor, and he may end up eating a lot more punches than actually holding Marquardt in his guard. I'll take Marquardt via TKO, Round 3.
Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera
Luke Thomas: I worry about a confident, aggressive opponent constantly bringing the fight to Vera, who tends to get overwhelmed. Even when Vera wins, often he's being pushed and lately he's been pushed and loses. However, Vera's power is deeply underrated as is his accuracy. I admire Soszynski's career turnaround and how he's augmented his skill set, but Vera's going to find a tiny opening and pour it on from there the longer they stand. Vera, by TKO, round 2.
Kid Nate: If Brandon Vera really is back, this will be short and ugly. Vera by KO.
Brent Brookhouse: I'm not sold on Soszynski. Brandon Vera by universe correcting TKO, round 1.
Michael Rome: I think this is going to be a blowout. I could look like an idiot monday, but here goes nothing. Vera via KO, round 1.
Mike Fagan: I'm sure Brent will say it first, but I'm still not sold on Soszynski. And I still think Vera can be a top guy. Brandon Vera by TKO, round 1.
Eugene Schelfaut: If the old Vera shows up he should win this. I just want to be impressed again by Vera. Brandon Vera by decision.
Leland Roling: Soszynski has shown some improved striking in his last few fights along with some added power, but Vera should be the much more well-rounded fighter. He has a much more dynamic striking game with his Muay Thai base and punching, but he'll also have the added advantage of his BJJ on the floor. Vera is always a question however, so I wouldn't be surprised at an upset win by K-Sos in this fight. I still can't pick him though. Brandon Vera via TKO, Round 2.
Gabe Gonzaga vs. Chris Tuchscherer
Luke Thomas: Tuchsherer is not going to be able to muscle and smother BJJ opposition like Lesnar did to Mir. Gonzaga is just too much in every department and has enough wrestling to hold on to a win. Gonzaga, by submission.
Kid Nate: Gonzaga is the cure to lay and pray. He hits way too hard on the feet and his jiu jitsu is too dangerous on the ground. Welcome to the big leagues Chris Tuchscherer. Gonzaga by submission.
Brent Brookhouse: Tuchscherer is a guy without a ton of skill beyond being "big wrestler guy" while Gonzaga is dangerous all around. I don't think Chris has the game to break Gonzaga's will nor the standup to make him hesitate to bust him up standing. Gabriel Gonzaga by KO, round 1.
Michael Rome: Don't believe the hype. This is the kind of fight Gonzaga kills in. He's had a great camp in Vegas and he is going to rip up Tuscherer. Gonzaga via TKO, round 1.
Mike Fagan: I guess Gabriel's going to alternate between beating on cans and getting beat by upper level guys. Gabriel Gonzaga by submission, round 1.
Eugene Schelfaut: It will be one of the cringe-inducing submissions. Gabriel Gonzaga by submission, round 1.
Leland Roling: While Tuchscherer is a huge, powerful wrestler who can smother Gonzaga from the top, Gonzaga is a much more dynamic striker in the stand-up game, and he has solid jiu-jitsu submission skills on the floor to put Tuchscherer in danger. I have to go with the more complete fighter. Gabriel Gonzaga via TKO, Round 2.
Mike Russow vs. Justin McCully
Luke Thomas: Russow caught my attention when he gave Sergei Kharitonov some real trouble. I've never been impressed with McCully and Russow's got more than enough takedown/submission defense skills to take away what little game McCully possesses. Russow by decision.
Kid Nate: Brent's skepticism of Russow has almost sold me, but my skepticism of McCully is even stronger. Russow by decision.
Brent Brookhouse: McCully is going to win this fight by decision, ya'll can laugh at me...but I just don't buy Russow for anything near a second. Justin McCully by decision.
Michael Rome: Mike Russow via decision. I can't think of anything snarkier than Fagan, so what he said.
Mike Fagan: Mike Russow will continue to make Justin McCully look like the Brooklyn Brawler. Mike Russow by decision.
Eugene Schelfaut: I hope this fight isn't to build McCully back up. Mike Russow by submission, round 2.
Leland Roling: Russow is a big, powerful wrestler who can control McCully from the top and pound him out to victory. While McCully possesses the jiu-jitsu prowess to be a danger, he doesn't show it too often in the Octagon. Look for Russow to make a statement in his debut. Mike Russow via TKO, Round 2.
Tim Hague vs. Todd Duffee
Luke Thomas: Hague is big and athletic, but Duffee is a far better, more technical athlete. In areas where Hague has the advantage, he now has the disadvantage. That's all she wrote for the Canadian. Duffee, TKO, round 1.
Kid Nate: Hague was very very lucky to get a UFC win against a one-dimensional and undersized Pat Barry. Duffee is rumored to be a beast. Duffee by TKO in 1.
Brent Brookhouse: Duffee is a beast with some serious power. I'm glad Hague was able to pull one off against Barry but this is going to be a much longer and more painful night for him. Todd Duffee by TKO, round 2.
Michael Rome: Hague shocked everyone against Patrick Barry, but the Cindarella story ends there. Duffee via TKO, round 1.
Mike Fagan: Everything I've heard is that Duffee's being slept on, so I'll take Todd Duffee by TKO, round 1.
Eugene Schelfaut: Barry will not be in this fight to give it away. I'm under the impression Duffee is good enough to take it from Hague. Todd Duffee by KO, round 2.
Leland Roling: Todd Duffee is a pretty massive heavyweight with huge power. If he has been studying Hague at all, he should be able to crush him standing and control him on the floor in this fight. I'll give in to the hype surroudning Duffee. Todd Duffee via TKO, Round 2.
Nick Catone vs. Mark Munoz
Luke Thomas: The premier credentials of Munoz plus his first-rate training environment plus his added speed and strength at middleweight will be too much for Catone. Munoz by decision.
Kid Nate: Munoz should be able to get a decision win here. Munoz by decision.
Brent Brookhouse: Unless Munoz doesn't have his head on right come fight night I don't really see him losing this fight. Catone may be able to put him on his back once or twice, but not for long and he won't do anything with it. Munoz by decision.
Michael Rome: They're giving Munoz a squash fight after his last poor performance. I don't have a lot of faith in Munoz, but I think he will ride his wrestling to a victory here. Munoz via TKO, round 2.
Mike Fagan: Munoz looked pudgier than Josh Barnett on the sauce at 205, but all indications point to him being in great shape at 185. I think he'll dominate with his wrestling and I'll take Mark Munoz by TKO, round 1.
Eugene Schelfaut: Munoz scores and controls from top position for the majority of this fight. Mark Munoz by decision.
Leland Roling: Dropping to middleweight and seeking training from Black House and Mike Guymon can only help Munoz. While Catone has some D-I wrestling experience, I think Munoz will be much improved in his overall abilities to strike and take down Catone. Catone will offer some resistance, but I think Munoz's explosiveness at 185 will be a bit surprising to Catone. Catone has a real shot at an upset though. Mark Munoz via TKO, Round 2.
Marcus Aurelio vs. Evan Dunham
Luke Thomas: This is a bit of a tough call since Dunham has the wrestling to avoid Aurelio's attack, but will he use it properly? I'll give Aurelio the nod, but will pay close attention to the results. Aurelio by submission.
Kid Nate: Unless Demian Maia shocks the world, Aurelio will get submission of the night in this fight. Aurelio by submission.
Brent Brookhouse:Aurelio is nothing if not tough and experienced, I'd prefer to see Dunham get the win but I've gotta go with my brain on this one. Aurelio by decision.
Michael Rome: I have to go with Aurelio just based on his ground game and his experience. Aurelio via decision.
Mike Fagan: I flipped the coin, and it came up Evan Dunham by TKO, round 2.
Eugene Schelfaut: A good deal of this card is a search for consistency. Marcus Aurelio by submission, round 1.
Leland Roling: Tough fight to call, but Aurelio has the better jiu-jitsu credentials on the ground versus the brown belt of Evan Dunham. Dunham will have the hometown support, but Aurelio is just a much more experienced fighter. Striking-wise, it's a tough call to see who will actually have the hands to win, but Aurelio is a gamer. Marcus Aurelio via unanimous decision.
Ed Herman vs. Aaron Simpson
Luke Thomas: Simpson is every bit the wrestler Herman is but a far better, quicker athlete. I expect big things from him. Simpson by KO.
Kid Nate: Tough one to call. Could be a barnburner as wrestler vs wrestler matches often are. I think Simpson is much more dangerous on the feet, ergo Simpson by decision.
Brent Brookhouse: Simpson has the better stand-up game and that is where this fight gets decided. Simpson by decision.
Michael Rome: Aaron Simpson via decision.
Mike Fagan: I'll take the hometown kid. Ed Herman by decision.
Eugene Schelfaut: Both will exchange GnP. I have to err on the side of experience for this one. Ed Herman by TKO, round 2.
Leland Roling: Herman has decent striking and submission skills on the floor, but Simpson will be the better wrestler in this showdown. He's shown a knack for producing devastating knockout power, and Herman has shown some sloppy defense in the stand-up game at times in his career. I think Simpson could win by either TKO or a decision victory with some smothering wrestling on the floor. I'm pulling for the upset, Aaron Simpson via unanimous decision.
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Good stuff as always. I have Couture, Silva, Marquardt, Leben, Vera, Gonzaga, Russow, Duffee, Munoz, Aurelio, Simpson
by Zack Gobie on Aug 28, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rosholt should be able to run through Leben.
by Meshuggeth on Aug 28, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And how did no one pick Catone? He is a better fighter than Munoz.
by Meshuggeth on Aug 28, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might. I’m not comfortable with my Aurelio pick.
by Luke Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its closer then the odds, but strait up, I have Aurelio. Might make a huge value play on Dunham because I think he is a great risk.
by szucconi on Aug 28, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
after he get KOed, dies, and becomes a ghost. Then he will run right through him.
by szucconi on Aug 28, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rosholt has quite a chin. I doubt he’ll mess with standing up though. Leben will not stop his shots and get pounded on.
by Meshuggeth on Aug 28, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has zero defence for that chin. Leben doesn’t have to worry about getting hit so he can cheat a little and stop the shot. Rosholt will not finish and each round starts standing. so Leben has three shots to get the KO before the TD. I say he only needs one.
by szucconi on Aug 28, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way Leben stops Rosholt’s shots.
by Meshuggeth on Aug 28, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way Rosholt stops Leben’s shots either.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 28, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rosholt is good at getting punched in the face.
Keep firing Assholes!
ZE GOGGLES! ZAY DO NOZING!!!!
by Ubernoober on Aug 28, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking...
Since it sounds like the UFC has lost there main event for UFC 107, if Couture and Cro Cop both win and are available to fight on that date do you guys think that could be the main event for UFC 107?
As for my picks I agree with consensus picks except for Aurelio
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by The Legend on Aug 28, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This
I see the card the same way as the fromtpagers and love Couture vs. Crocop
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by thetakeover on Aug 28, 2009 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Cro-cop winning against Dos Santos is a pretty big if IMO.
by brad23 on Aug 28, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maia may be a one trick pony, but that pony is capable of winning the triple crown!
by pandaboy99 on Aug 28, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or...
A one trick pony that kicks ass!
:D
by majesticlamb on Aug 29, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive got the polish experiment, the natural, and maia on a 3 way parlay. 20 bucks for 150
by pandaboy99 on Aug 28, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tempting, but I think Vera crushes your dreams
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by thetakeover on Aug 28, 2009 5:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
No love for K-Sos at all? Kimura, R-1
Keep firing Assholes!
ZE GOGGLES! ZAY DO NOZING!!!!
by Ubernoober on Aug 28, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man… I would normally make Nate a lock for this but Maia has been doing some crazy matrix shit with his grappling… almost to the level of what Anderson does in the stand up.
He can potentially be “jordanesque” like Fedor, Anderson and Machida with what he pulls off in the cage… mindboggling.
But with the fight starting with 2 guys standing and cuurent MMA skill levels it’s much easier to negate submission than it is striking. I believe Nate will be better in negating Maia’s grappling than Maia will be negating Nates striking.
Maia is deceptively strong though.
by mmalogic on Aug 28, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nog rnd 2 TKO/ref stoppage
Silva by very close and bloody decision
Nate the great by GnP controverisal ref stoppage in the 3rd
Leben by KO of the night rnd 2
Vera by boring decision
by Headkick on Aug 28, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody remember
less than a year ago people, journalists and fans alike, were saying nog is definitely ahead of Randy in the rankings and would win convincingly? did Mir change things that much?
by cagefightonacid on Aug 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Nog changed things.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 28, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things change when you fight in the UFC…
Dos Santos could knock Cro cop out and he would be a better canditate to fight fedor then the entire strikeforce roster… DOS SANTOS. a guy not even in the conversation at this point. but in less than a year knocks out werdum and crocop (hypothetically) that’s the difference with fighting in the UFC.
People want the boxing model so this doesnt happen. As soon as a fighter does something significant protect him and his record and milk the cow. Fight 3 bums and then fight a tough opponent.
by mmalogic on Aug 28, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dos Santos will beat CC
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by Leland Roling on Aug 30, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t recall this period you talk about and was certainly right here for it.
by Michael Rome on Aug 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for real???? or is that sarcasm? right before nog came into the ufc people were acting as if randy stood no chance, now all of a sudden nog’s loss to mir means nog is done?! apparently not the nog from last night
by cagefightonacid on Aug 30, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couture by decision
Jardine by TKO
Leben by TKO
Marquardt by TKO
Vera by decision.
I love me some Sexyama!
by pud333 on Aug 28, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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there is my list!!
Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit.
by mma is #1 on Aug 29, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My picks for the main card -
Nogueira via submission. Assuming we get the best possible Randy Couture and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira we can reasonably expect, then I go with Nog. At the end of the day, he’s more of a finisher than Randy is, and unless he keeps him smothered against the fence for three rounds, if it goes to the ground, the probability of Couture getting submitted is very high.
T. Silva via TKO. I think Jardine’s a tougher guy than he gets credit for sometimes, but I think Thiago has the tools to beat him. He’s aggressive, has knockout power, and likes to get on the inside to strike, which is just how Jardine got demolished by Houston Alexander and Wanderlei Silva. Thiago could also give Jardine some problems if the fight goes to the ground since I think he has an underrated ground game IMO.
Rosholt via decision. I like Leben, but also feel the sport is passing him by. He’s tough, and can put on exciting fights with other brawlers, but I think the fight with Bisping really showed how predictable and unable he’s become to adapt his game to his opponent’s style. He has a lot to prove after his loss to Bisping and steroid suspension, but no one did him any favors by putting him up against a wrestler with Rosholt’s credentials. All Jake really has to do is not stand and trade with Leben and he can win the fight. Despite having a wrestling background of his own, Leben has rarely utilized it. I’d like to see Leben prove me wrong and make a comeback though.
Maia via submission. Marquardt will definitely be Maia’s toughest fight to date, but if this fight hits the ground, Maia will find a way to submit him. I also favor Nate in the striking department, but his key to victory is to keep the fight standing for three rounds and try to KO or outpoint Demian, and I’m not sure if he can do that.
Soszynski via decision. Vera definitely needs this win just to maintain any sort of illusion that he could still become a contender in the UFC. And going off of his fights after his return to the UFC against Sylvia, I think the guy who was tearing up the HW division and took out Mir is just gone, and all that’s left is the guy who will beat the Reese Andys and Mike Patts of the UFC. If Soszynski can put up any kind of reasonable offense in striking or grappling, he should win the fight.
by Hardcase on Aug 29, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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