UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira Weigh-in Results and Media
by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 28, 2009 5:57 PM EDT
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Watch the weigh-in video in the extended entry.
HW: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (231) vs. Randy Couture (220)
205 lbs: Thiago Silva (205) vs. Keith Jardine (205)
185 lbs: Demian Maia (185) vs. Nate Marquardt (185)
205 lbs: Krzysztof Soszynski (205) vs. Brandon Vera (205)
185 lbs: Jake Rosholt (185) vs. Chris Leben (185)
185 lbs: Aaron Simpson (185) vs. Ed Herman (185.5)
HW: Chris Tuchscherer (258) vs. Gabriel Gonzaga (259)
HW: Michael Russow (260) vs. Justin McCully (238)
HW: Todd Duffee (251) vs. Tim Hague (263.5)
185 lbs: Mark Munoz (185.5) vs. Nick Catone (185.5)
155 lbs: Evan Dunham (155) vs. Marcus Aurelio (156)
Photos by UFC.
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real life getting in the way of MMA news? blasphemy! hahaha. :P
but seriously though, the guy works REAL hard.. he deserves that break. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMA Live special half hour before weigh-in : http://espn.go.com/livenow/ufc102/
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 28, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t the PPV channel air the weigh-ins for free?
Though i guess not everyone has the channel…
by Danny Dangerously on Aug 28, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Channell 101 on DirecTv
fightlockdown.com
by The Legend on Aug 28, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMA Live preview show is now going.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 28, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know of a way to watch this that doesn’t involve the Silverlight player?
by Chris Nelson on Aug 28, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think MMA Live is showing them.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 28, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have something against Silverlight?
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just loaded it for the first time…its majestic
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might even name my kid smooth HD beta
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was very impressed.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It refuses to install on my computer. Or rather, my “Windows installer” refuses to accept it. Piece of junk.
by Chris Nelson on Aug 28, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
munoz looks great at 185. hopefully he worked on his striking
by woooburn on Aug 28, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what’s a good fight of his to watch online? never seen him? he’s looks terrifying.
by woooburn on Aug 28, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Ausserio Silva fight is the one most people have seen. It’s nothing that’ll knock your socks off, but he’s a big scary dude..
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his physique is pretty impressive for that weight
by yngjzy on Aug 28, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Florian just call Kharitonov “Carrot toff”?
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t say so.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Natasha rockin’ the waves!!!!!!!!!
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No one else is excited about this?
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh hell yeah I am =D
I love disheveled hair.
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by iiowyn on Aug 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone has Dish Network...
it should be on 455.
by Cannon Jacques on Aug 28, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gonzaga have his mouth piece in?
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hells yea
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFC102 WEIGH-INS: mouthpieces, and dudes not taking off their shirts
by woooburn on Aug 28, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i figured it was pronounced tuh-share-er
damn. great reception for napao
by woooburn on Aug 28, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The next generation of Heavyweights are here. The past generation was slower and smaller, with most of them being able to cut to Light Heavyweight. These new guys who are naturally too big to make Light Heavyweight and they are quick.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 28, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets see how a clean Leben looks...
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Significantly less ripped
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
His arms lack definition.
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because he rocks doesn’t mean he’s made of stone. Ya know that sounded funny in my head but now while typing, it seems like a fail. Fuck it I need to keep my ego in check anyhow so I’m still posting it.
by MrBlond3 on Aug 28, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anybody know how many people are in the crowd for the weigh-in? i know they talked about low ticket sales, and the common theme you heard was it was too expensive, but with the weigh-ins being free and open to the public it should be somewhat of a good gauge of how excited Oregon is for the UFC
by mo dogg on Aug 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
leben looks way smaller than last fight
by cmcbeast on Aug 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Polish Experience? Joe needs more time in between when he stops smoking and starts announcing.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This MMA Live coverage is pretty stupid. I’ve had to switch back and forth to see some of the weigh ins.
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by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahhhh
Keep it in your pants Brandon
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Vera looked money.
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by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eskimo Kiss!
Dudes look pissed…
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by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Little nose rub for Nate and Maia
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eskimo kisses by Maia.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Silva with the first shirt on, glasses on, hands down stare down I’ve seen
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson “The Flannel” Silva
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
234 for Nog? Good weight.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He looked in really good shape. I’m not as excited about my hundo on Randy.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nog with abs = win?
This is gonna be a great fucking fight. I dont know who to cheer for.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 28, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ESPN front-page
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by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Now that is a front page.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 28, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Ya!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda surprised that Nog looks that much bigger than Handy.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big ups to Oregon for cheering Minotauro.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TOMORROW I FIGHT HANDY
I MAKE A GOOD FIGHT IN THE HING
by Chris Nelson on Aug 28, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting that caps accurately illustrate his tone.
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by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gonna look better this fight FOR SURE
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by iiowyn on Aug 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this I love…. talk like this again… I love.
by mmalogic on Aug 28, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’d never think Randy was going to fight. He looks like he’s accepting a Grammy or something. The guys is so relaxed.
by INGO B on Aug 28, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How much would you pay to look like that at 45?
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by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Depends
How much do you think hormone replacement will cost in 2027?
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by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully significantly less
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by Day Man on Aug 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, this gets a little grating. The idea that somehow hormone replacement is why Randy looks good for this fight is beyond absurd. You have one Rogan comment and people have taken it and blown it way out of proportion.
by Michael Rome on Aug 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, relax
It’s a joke and the first time I’ve ever mentioned it..
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by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s more that I see this everywhere. The general basis for proof is a rambling Joe Rogan comment on ESPN (this is the same guy who said on ESPN that when you see Houston fight it’s like he’s going to rape someone).
Further, it has little to no affect on why he looks good for this fight. People kind of use this unsubstantiated stuff as a hatchet against him, even though it’s legal to do it and no proof he does it.
by Michael Rome on Aug 28, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly didn’t intend for it to be taken literally, and I personally believe it has nothing to do with his ability, measurables or conditioning at his advanced age. He’s one of a kind.
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by Blackout612 on Aug 28, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, for what it’s worth… i didn’t take it as a jab at randy at all. more a “i would need this to look like him” joke.
didn’t even know about the rogan quote… which kinda sucks to hear him say.
by woooburn on Aug 28, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does it suck?
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to hear rogan claim that about randy. wouldn’t think he’d make those kinds of claims about him, without some sort of proof. dunno… maybe it’s just me.
by woooburn on Aug 28, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering his love for the guy, I’m inclined to believe he wouldn’t say anything that wasn’t true.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is true… and it is legal and approved.
This is a huge breakthrough in athletics expanding the lifespan of being able to compete up to 10 years plus.
Too bad Chuck fucked himself up with the wrong “therapy”. The kind that contracts your ability to compete.
by mmalogic on Aug 28, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dropping the hands?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this case, I’m not sure why Rome gets so peeved when it gets brought up. It certainly would play a great deal in his ability to continue to perform at the highest levels as he nears FIFTY.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Rogan but...
He’s not one that requires proof in making accusations. He’s a Moon hoaxer, so he actually makes accusations in the face of evidence.
by Danny Dangerously on Aug 28, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please explain the term “Moon hoaxer” I’m just curious because Joe Rogan talks about a lot of crazy shit but you might be suprised when you look into what he says, quotes, repeats, etc I know that sounds retarded and cliche but when I heard him quote Terence McKenna I almost shat my pants.
by MrBlond3 on Aug 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh you mean how he believes that the moon landing didn’t happen. Two retarded posts in one thread yeah tgif.
by MrBlond3 on Aug 29, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not absurd at all...
I’m inclined to believe Rogan. 46 year old men don’t look like that. Randy looks better now than he did when he was in his thirties and I doubt it’s because he’s training harder. He obviously has access so why not? It’s not like he’ll test positive and I don’t for a second think that he has too much integrity to do that sort of thing. At his age, you need every advantage you can get.
by zeke21 on Aug 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what is your reason Randy looks better now than against Brock? More hormones?
It’s completely legal, so there’s no such thing as testing positive, but it’s looked down upon mostly because people are generally too lazy to look into the actual effects. The idea that bringing the hormone levels back to the baseline is somehow turning Randy into a Greek statue is laughable on the level of government Marijuana commercials asserting it will turn your brain into fried eggs.
by Michael Rome on Aug 28, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And people that take steroids don’t get monster physiques just because they take them either. You have to put a lot of work in the gym to get that big and/or lean.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the two aren’t even close. The effect of anabolic steroids is often to push levels thousands of percentage points above the normal level. The effect of testosterone replacement is only to restore diminished levels to baseline. It’s closer to surgery to repair something broken than any kind of performance enhancer.
The reason it annoys me is there’s such general ignorance about testosterone replacement that people equate it with HGH or other types of roid-alternatives that there aren’t tests for. That’s not the case.
The other thing that bugs me is that Rogan didn’t actually say Randy Couture does hormone replacement. The host asks him how atheletes can do so well into their 40’s, and he says that they can get more out of their bodies with a number of different things, including hormone replacement. He said that he did hormone replacement therapy himself, and the quote has been twisted out of context over and over again. I can’t even find a video anymore, but what was closer to a joke than anything else has been twisted into something entirely different over time.
by Michael Rome on Aug 28, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogan says some of the dumbest shit sometimes…
NExt time they should play some of his quotes instead of the fried egss for the pot commercials.
by mmalogic on Aug 28, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, logic seems to have confirmed the Couture HRT thing above.
Second, I’ve gone on record numerous times stating that I think people get too hyped up about steroids and PEDs.
Lastly, I wasn’t trying to compare why one would take steroids vs. getting hormone therapy. The point I was making was that, yes, even if Randy had therapy done, he still had to put in a bunch of hard work. People that take steroids also have to work hard. Steroids take people to levels they couldn’t reach without them. HRT takes people back to levels that couldn’t be at normally.
I’m pretty positive Randy had the procedure done, and it seems like logic corroborates that. I don’t think it’s wrong or immoral. I also don’t think Randy’s some superhuman that has freak genetics. It’s a testament to science and man’s ingenuity.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 29, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that = they
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 29, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a few things at play. First, quite a few older fighters have tried HRT without experiencing any renewed success. It’s not really a magic elixir, and wasn’t widely available when Randy came back to beat Chuck and Tito at his then-advanced age.
I think logic knows quite a bit about UFC business, and I know he believes Randy does HRT, but I don’t think he knows it. I know Joe Rogan did not say it, even though everyone has twisted his quote.
Maybe he’s done it, maybe not. His management I’ve asked call it a complete bullshit internet rumor, but they wouldn’t admit it even if it was true. It’s possibly true, but there isn’t any evidence. There’s just a rumor that’s spun out of control on the UG and taken on a life of its own.
by Michael Rome on Aug 29, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But dude (regardless of if Randy does it or not) is hormone replacement not cheating? Its not natural tesosterone in your system, you are artificially increasing the natural levels of testosterone. The point of athletic competition is to see who is “the best” and “surgically” enhancing is just a fancy way of justifying cheating.
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by The_Gaijin on Aug 29, 2009 3:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
So Tommy John’s surgery, ligament replacemnt/repair, laser eye surgery, dental surgery, and any surgery to repair broken bones should all be considered cheating?
by Screwface on Aug 29, 2009 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck. McNeil took Maia. FML.
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by Mike Fagan on Aug 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Say it ain’t so =(
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got Maia too...
so you’re probably screwed.
by Cannon Jacques on Aug 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
War Handy!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But…I love Nog too. =( “Dat guy, dat guy is a good guy.”
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 28, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oregon was classy cheering Nog too, or at least not booing him. He will get the Gonzaga treatment tomorrow.
by Michael Rome on Aug 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s TUF love. lol That doesnt sound right but still..
Nog came across so damn lovable in that show. lol
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 28, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nog is in great shape, and clearly has the reach. This should be a great fight.
by Michael Rome on Aug 28, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Timezone
Hey, i just saw the PPV comercial here in Brazil, this fight is 3 hours later then the normal time, is that right? is it because of east/west coast thing?
Can anyone cofirm this for me please?
by bigcherry on Aug 28, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
29/08/2009 23h UFC 102 AO VIVO NO SPORTV
I got big nog, maia, vera and leben, and I hope thiago looses, fucking playboy.
by orcus on Aug 28, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vai passar no SPORTV?
Minotauro vai bater em pé depois finalizar, agora que ele perdeu peso tá em forma não tem pro Couture não.
Thiago é playboy mas americano adora isso, bom marketing.
by bigcherry on Aug 28, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh verdade, num tem ninguém pro minota não, quando o kra vem com tudo não tem pra ninguém (com exceção do fedor). o thiago e o gonzaga são os únicos brasileiros que me da raiva neste esporte kra, o gonzaga por não ter coração e o thiago por ser playboy, e falando do jeito que ele fala, morri de rir com o KO que o machida deu nele. se eles ganharem amanhã vou ficar feliz, só pq sou patriota, mas se perderem e de jeito feio serei mais feliz ainda hauhauahaua. até amanhã mano, tô de saidera, é bom conhecer alguns patriotas neste site :P
t+
by orcus on Aug 28, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ow fraga o anderson treinando boxe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntHWtZqWaY
depois dessa to achando melhor ele ficar só no MMA mesmo huahauahau
by orcus on Aug 28, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fuck did all of you say?
by Screwface on Aug 29, 2009 6:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i hope to
god the old nog is back, pulling for him on this one
by theblade on Aug 28, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nog looks in shape. this fight may not be as one sided as some people think. In the Mir fight it was plain to see that Nog was no where near in this kinda shape. I still give it to Randy due to the fact Nog tends to take too much of a beating in the early rounds to win a decision and i dont see him subing Randy.
by Riley_96 on Aug 28, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I asked in a earlier post but I doubt anyone will answer since it’s so old so I’ll post it here.
Just got done watching Maia vs Stout and I wish I knew the answer to the question of did Demian Maia intend to dislocate Stout’s arm with the underhook while he was sweeping him? The way Maia reacted when the ref stopped the fight didn’t seem like he was all to suprised seemed like what he intended to do happened.
by MrBlond3 on Aug 29, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats a common sweep, to pull hard on the shoulder and get them rocking forward past their knees. Their knees get lighter and easier to flip over with a butterfly hook.
IMO the shoulder thing was a fluke, kinda like Cote blowing his knee or that Salaverry guy hurting someone’s back with the body lock.
by judonerd on Aug 29, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy is a little light?
Think he’s cutting down to go after one of the Brazilians?
by the exit on Aug 29, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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