UFC Confirms Ten Bouts for 104 in October
by Scott Haber on Aug 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT
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Following the official announcement of UFC 104 on October 24th in Los Angeles, featuring a light heavyweight championship fight between Lyoto Machida and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, the UFC has now officially updated their card for the event with nine other previously rumored fights:
MAIN CARD:
Lyoto Machida vs. Mauricio Rua - light heavyweight championship
Sean Sherk vs. Gleison Tibau
Joe Stevenson vs. Spencer Fisher
Anthony Johnson vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
PRELIM CARD:
Antoni Hardonk vs. Pat Barry
Yushin Okami vs. Chael Sonnen
Jorge Rivera vs. Rob Kimmons
Ryan Bader vs. Eric Schafer
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Razak Al-Hassan
Stefan Struve vs. Chase Gormley
Notable are the relegations of Yushin Okami (yet again) and TUF winner Ryan Bader to the evening's preliminary card in favor of a Sean Sherk-Gleison Tibau fight which has both fighters coming off of losses.
Cain Velasquez vs. Ben Rothwell is also rumored for this card and will likely be added soon as the fifth main card fight.
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I am still confused as to why Shogun gets a title shot. I guess if you KO Liddell you get an instant title shot.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Because Rampage chose to go in the direction of TUF 10 with Rashad.
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Right! So after Evans beats Rampage, then what?
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Then Rashad wakes up, relocates his jaw, and Rampage gets the next title shot.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 7:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Negative
I see Rashad running away with this fight.
by Screwface on Aug 25, 2009 10:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How exactly? The only thing he might do better than Rampage is wrestle and he quit doing that over a year ago.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think after the Machida fight
At least, I hope, that Rashad realizes that he can’t go toe-to-toe with the best strikers in the game. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he goes back to his wrestlings roots and GNPs for a decision.
I really like Rampage, too. As a matter of fact, I like him more than Rashad. I just don’t think he’s got a really good chance of beating Sugar.
by Screwface on Aug 25, 2009 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That is unless Rashad goes all self-agrandizing and thinks he can box with Rampagre.
by Screwface on Aug 25, 2009 11:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The only thing is
Rampage’s takedown defense is fucking epic. He stuffed Hendo throughout their fight, and even took Dan down a few times. And Dan is a guy who is great at mixing up strikes and takedowns.
Rashad, on the other hand, hasn’t displayed any kind of adeptness at transitioning, and is either in wrestlemania mode, or attempting his best RJJ impression. But never both, and just wrestling or just boxing won’t be enough to beat Page. Jackson’s power punching and ridiculous chin will be too much for Evans improved boxing; Quinton’s strength and solid wrestling will be enough to keep Rashad at bay.
Now don’t get me wrong, fighters improve & evolve, but from what i’ve seen in the ring/ cage from both Rashad and Page, I definitely give it to Page.
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 27, 2009 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Speed > Rampage
My gut tells me that Rashad is going to be too fast for Rampage. He is also coming off of his first loss which is pretty good motivation.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Technique > Speed.
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by FlyByKnight on Aug 25, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Because
The only guy to beat Rampage (and arguably at that) in the UFC, Forrest Griffin, is lightning quick.
Be serious.
I STILL poop rainbows.
Then I look at the rankings and think; Who else should get one?
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Rampage chose TUF. Rashad just had a title shot, and is on TUF, and Forrest was coming off a loss. Who else should have gotten the shot?
Don Frye. He would have beat the hell out of that piss drinkin Brazilian
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 25, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear
that BJ wants a rematch with Lyoto @ 205. JOE SILVA, MAKE IT HAPPEN
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 25, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
At least...
BJ wouldn’t end up looking like Rashad… Granite chin = decision loss.
by Screwface on Aug 25, 2009 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well
I don’t exactly agree with that. Lyoto’s just recently started a serious S&C program, and the results have shown (2 brutal KO’s over previously undefeated, elite opponents). I also don’t think that Rashad has a garbage chin.
In all honesty, even motivated BJ doesn’t make it the distance w/ Machida. IMO
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 27, 2009 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe the presale is this Thursday. Very excited for this card. First time I don’t have to pay airfare and hotel costs.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
Hahaha. That’s what I’m saying. I wish Carwin was still on this card, though. Love Machida and Shogun but Carwin really made this card for me.
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You wish Carwin was still on here instead of fighting Brock in November?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m glad he’s getting his due finally but Carwin made that card for me. I’ll still try to go to the one in Vegas, though.
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Cool, I’ll meet up with you if you do.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 8:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This card seems..
… monumentally weak for the UFCs return to LA. Outside of the main event, Fisher vs Joe, and Cain vs Ben, I’m not all that impressed. I figured they’d stack it.
Seems like a pretty good card to me.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 7:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Myeh..
I guess it’s not as bad as UFC 96, but I thought they would pull out all stops in the CA return.
Why? They’ve been doing just fine without Cali and besides, it’s not like LA is some great sports town. They don’t even have an NFL team for god’s sake.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The main cards looks great to me. Of the ten main card fighters, Tibau is the only one not in the top 25 of his weight class. I am actually looking forward to all five main card bouts.
Agreed, even the undercard is strong.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 8:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a good card! Look at the poster!
It will be headlined by Machida and Shogun, and will be co headlined by.. Machida and Shogun!
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Im glad to see Rumble on the main card
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
He’s gonna lose.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Please, he eats grapplers for lunch. He’s not going to have trouble until he faces someone with good striking skills.
He’s never faced anyone nearly as good as Okami.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 8:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, I always get those two confused, I meant Yoshida. This is gonna be Johnson’s first real test.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cuz their first names don’t sound similar or anything.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They both start with “Y” and then do vastly different things…
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Yoshi….. vs. Yushi….
Yes, completely different.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Then “yuki” and “n”. Maybe I am just familiar with the Japanese language sounds enough to not mistake them, but they are very different to me.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
It’s not just the name thing, for some reason I just always get them mixed up in my head.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You mean 2'nd real test
the first one… he failed
Loss; Rich Clementi; UFC 76: Knockout; Submission (Rear Naked Choke); 2 ;3:05
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 27, 2009 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Cutting to 170 on a week’s notice will do that to you.
Keep firing Assholes!
ZE GOGGLES! ZAY DO NOZING!!!!
Johnson is sending Zenko to the land of wind and ghosts.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Aug 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Mr. Sparkle, FTW!
Anyone who can use obscure Japanese ad placement on a random MMA fansite is a winner in my book.
by Screwface on Aug 25, 2009 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All i can say is if Yoshida got KTFO by Koscheck then he better not even think about striking with AJ
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
They should get Al Pacino for special guest ring announcer
“And in this corner, fighting out of Brazil, Mauricio ‘Shogun’ HOOOOOOOOO-aaaaahhhhhh”
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
There’s some charitable reccers out there today.
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by Tim Burke on Aug 26, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Probably don’t wanna put the audience to sleep.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this card is terrible
i was actually thinking about going to this show live back when cain/carwin was still on… looking at it now it is not appealing in the least. i don’t care about most of the fighters on it, and the main event i feel is gonna be very one sided
Srsly?
I actually think it’s a very good card…
You’ve got Machida/ Shogun for the title (a fight which has p4p implications), you’ve got Okami/ Sonnen which is between a top 5 MW and a fringe top 10 fighter, as well as Johnson/ Yoshida, which will likely vault the winner into WW title contention.
And don’t count Rua out man, Shogun @ 100% is a force. If he comes in shape (mentally & physically), then I see this fight being VERY competitive. I’d even give Shogun like a 40/60 chance to win if he’s on his game
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 25, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure why someone would say this is a weak card. The televised portion isn’t any significant drop off from the past few events, to me.
Also, FREE OKAMI.
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This seems like a pretty solid lineup to me I guess everyone was thinking every name fighter the ufc has would be on here since it’s in LA.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 10:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nuthugger
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You rang?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Aug 25, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like ballsack gps but it sounds too close to ballsack and gsp and putting those two words together causes a riot around these parts
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
Not if said properly. “You and I can both comfortably hang from Gsp’s ballsack”
by CliChe Guevara on Aug 25, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless you meant people hate him…in which case I would argue that those people are to obsessed with underdogs.
by CliChe Guevara on Aug 25, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
well on Machida and Filipino fighters i’ll admit to being biased.. cause i really am sometimes..
but on the others (Zuffa/Non-Zuffa/blahblah), not so much.. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Aug 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Sherk guarintees shitty boxing. Advantage Sherk.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Aug 25, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm gonna turn the channel for that fight....
and turn on Jurrasic Park 3 so I can watch a real (in the CG hollywood sense) TRex fight
Someone in the UFC must like Kyle Kingsbury. Didn’t he lose his last fight?
Good to see Rumble on the main card.
While Bader has some KOs/TKOs, he resorts back to lay n pray as well.
Hardonk vs Barry should be a fun striking battle.
Machida all the way!
Yeah, but it's still not on the event page
Either a mistake by whoever updates the website, or they’re holding off for some reason.
by Scott Haber on Aug 25, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m saying it’s a mistake by whoever updates the websites. They announced it in the initial press release, which is still up on the front page of the site. The fight is happening. It’s been confirmed by all parties involved and announced in the press release. It’s official.
by dropkick101 on Aug 25, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s hard for me to think of a less appealing LW matchup, on paper, than Gleison Tibau vs. Sean Sherk.
Have you seen Roli’s pornstache recently? Don Frye might be envious of it.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
rumble johnson against the very good japanese fellow is my fav fight
when johnson wins he’ll be one step closer to meeting gsp. i believe he will beat him too. 5 inches taller, faster and maybe stronger. the only loss johnson has in the ufc is that poke in the eye loss to burns that the ref did not see. gsp has superior wrestling skills but i see johnson jabbing alot and waiting for gsp go for the takedown. then i see johnson use a knee of foot crack to the face to win that fight . rumble on!
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 25, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
Burns is not his only loss
Clementi submitted Johnson…whether or not you want to bring up Rumble taking that fight on short notice and having a terrible weight cut, it’s still a loss.
by Scott Haber on Aug 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus H Christ
What is the deal with all these people acting like Johnson is the greatest fighter ever? The guy has talent, sure, but who has he ever beaten? Chad Reiner? Tommy fucking Speer? The guy has never even fought a top-25 fighter and now he can beat one of the top P4P guys in the world? Come the fuck on.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
WAR SHOGUN
Shogun will be the LHW Champion by the end of 2009… Machida better come on his A game or Shogun will kick him in the leg and make it bleed like he did to Chuck on his first kick, then fake with a right and knock him out with his left… I don’t care what the MMA fans say how he looked so tired when he fought Coleman… Why don’t you try having two ACL surgeries then coming back and fighting a tough Coleman… He did beat the American Psycho mind you… Shoguns next fight was against a Chuck Liddell who know if he lost his next he would be finished, so you know he came to fight, however Shogun came light on his toes… I take Shogun by 3rd round, brutal ground and pound… Fight of the year guarantee…
Shogun looked so Amazing (Kanye West) how he was light on his toes and covering up when Chuck came in with a couple of punches, then kicking Chuck in the ribs as Chuck was coming if for the kill…
WAR SHOGUN MMA FANS!!!
N1SHOGUNRUAFAN
Machida has no game other than his A game. Leg kicking Machida gets you punched in the face. The leaping left hook may be a decent weapon, but Machida has shown himself vulnerable to it in the past and has probably trained extensively against it.
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