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Big John McCarthy: A Crusader for Improving Mixed Martial Arts Refereeing

Bigjohn_mediumThe question everyone wants asked: when will McCarthy return to refereeing UFC fights? Jake Rossen finds the answer confusing:

On his possible return: "That's up to the UFC. That's not up to me. … Dana [White] is the guy who runs the UFC. He has a personal problem with me. That's fine. It's his decision."

Is it really? Referees are recruited, employed and paid by athletic commissions. Those commissions likely are holding off on assigning McCarthy to officiate UFC events because they fear a potential bias (assuming he and White have an acrimonious relationship). But that's not how it should work. By that rationale, White could claim personality conflicts with any referee he's not in favor of and assemble an army of favorable officials by process of elimination.

White has also leveled personal criticisms against other referees, including Steve Mazzagatti. Why aren't they being withheld from his venues? Couldn't it be argued that they'd retaliate by screwing up a fight? And if not, why the concern about McCarthy?

It certainly is problematic that arguably the best and most talented referee in professional MMA is not using his expertise to help officiate some of the most important fights of our time. But McCarthy is one man and can only referee a handful of fights on any given night. His inclusion, while important, is nevertheless a drop in the bucket in terms of the larger problems the sport faces in recruiting and training competent referees in states and territories across North America. I have hopes for McCarthy's C.O.M.M.A.N.D. course and local DC area referee Mario Yamasaki does his part in training classes in DC, Virginia and Maryland as I'm sure other referees do in their home towns.

The larger problem is that the appeal of the sport has outpaced the ability of the sport's officiating ranks to properly oversee and regulate the contests. The efforts by McCarthy, Yamasaki and others are obviously both helpful and necessary, but lack the resources to make a more robust, comprehensive effort work. Yamasaki has done excellent work in the Mid-Atlantic states, but what can be done about making sure burgeoning nearby markets like North Carolina are properly equipped? The UFC and other shows can generally staff their ranks with competent referees in major markets, but neither they nor local shows have such luxury in the often chaotic mess of emerging markets.

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Exactly.

His experience and abilities would be best served, at this point, by focusing on training the next generation of referees.

by Razreshat on Aug 20, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This.

I think big John is very deserving of the ‘best in the business’ moniker and would love to see him ref in the UFC again, but don’t blame Dana when you haven’t even bothered to get licensed. The very fact that Mazagatti still refs in the UFC should tell you all you need to know about how much influence Dana has over referee assignments. None.

by Steve4192 on Aug 20, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big John stated before that he wouldnt apply for a license in Nevada until his problem with Dana White was sorted out. (I really dislike Jake Rossens articles, tacky opinion and speculation at best).

by iamtheoriginalchris on Aug 20, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then he should probably try to take care of the problem instead of fanning the fires in the media.

by Phildo on Aug 20, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They probably wont license him due to him working for a promotion providing commentary as well as a TV station. Conflict of interest.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 20, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s some seriously fucked up circular logic on BJM’s part.

He needs to either (1) have a sit down with BLAF and straighten shit out or (2) apply for a Nevada license and force the issue. Doing nothing accomplishes nothing … and bitching about it in the press only makes matters worse.

by Steve4192 on Aug 20, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess we’ll see at UFC 104 in LA. He is licensed in CA, and should ref at that event.

by swells2048 on Aug 20, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But won’t.

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

by AboveThisFire on Aug 20, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHy wouldnt he? Unless he turns it down

by The Bronzeville Bully on Aug 20, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ref’s should not commentate. Refs should not be doing interviews (unless it directly has to do with a call they made in a fight).

The less about refs we know the better.

John McCarthy messed that up. It’s impossible to reverse it now.

by AlwaysRelaxing on Aug 20, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Dana has said that if it were up to him, Mazzagatti would never ref another match in the UFC again. He’s tried, unsuccessfully, to convince Keith Kizer to not assign him to UFC events in Nevada. Dana doesn’t have veto power over who is assigned to ref UFC events.

McCarthy probably realizes he can get more attention if he calls out Dana White than if he calls out Kieth Kizer. Get more websites to link to his $500.00 referee course. I guess he’s a pretty smart guy after all!

by Stanlee on Aug 20, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t Big John have beef with the NSAC? he had issues with the UFC too, but I thought it was NSAC that was the first road block. I think he said some things about the AC and is scared to reapply.

by szucconi on Aug 20, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He probably just doesn´t have the need to ref in Nevada. I’d think they get paid the same on every state commission. It’s not like he’s not getting jobs elsewhere, why would he come back to the UFC if he has personal problems with both the commission and White?

by David_ on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is saying he doesn’t have problems with them. Its like he is avoiding them, not the other way around. Like he is scared or they have something on him. I mean, the dude did a shit ton of main events in a row and now they don’t want to use him? Because he said some things that Dana agreed with? If anything, he is avoiding Nevada.

by szucconi on Aug 20, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he actually said a bunch of things about the NSAC

that are a bigger roadblock than the spat with Dana.

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by Kid Nate on Aug 20, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the dude did a shit ton of main events in a row and now they don’t want to use him?

It’s not that they WON’T use him. They CAN’T use him. At least not until he gets a license.

If they had denied him a license, then I would be upset. But they haven’t. John hasn’t even bothered to apply for one.

by Steve4192 on Aug 20, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RIght, you and Kid Nate are agreeing with me. The issue is NSAC vs. BJM. There is something going on there. The issue, I think is deeper then we know and we lack information on the friction between the two. Sure he said some stuff, but why not reapply?

by szucconi on Aug 20, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why didn’t Diaz take that drug test?

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Aug 20, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly don´t know this: Do they get paid more in Nevada?
I see no reason for him to re apply for a licence there if he has plenty of work outside of Nevada/UFC

by David_ on Aug 21, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Avoiding Nevada

I think it is pretty obvious that he is. I just don’t know what makes you think that he is scared of going back or that they have something on him. He’s been busy since he left Nevada, he probably doesn’t need them.

by David_ on Aug 20, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn my crappy replying skills.

by David_ on Aug 20, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why is he trying to make it sound like Dana is blackballing him?

Dana has no pull over who gets assigned to ref UFC events. If he did, Steve Mazagatti would have been gone a long time ago.

by Steve4192 on Aug 20, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is personal problems

by David_ on Aug 20, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s pretty sad how McCarthy is trying to play the doe-eyed innocent routine. He was the one who criticized and challenged the UFC for its business policies and blatantly used the notoriety he gained from the UFC to slander them publicly and aid their rivals.

Now that he’s all alone he is feigning innocence. Get out of here with that BS, you made your bed now lie in it.

by villin on Aug 20, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

When did he ‘slander’ the UFC?

He said some things that certainly weren’t popular in the Zuffa offices, but I don’t recall him saying anything slanderous.

by Steve4192 on Aug 21, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting-

McCarthy’s answer, and Rossen’s analysis are very interesting, and perhaps very telling . Taken at face value, it appears we just don’t like to admit the logical conclusion the response leads us to, and thus, remain confused.

by Rob Maysey on Aug 21, 2009 5:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Seriously. I’m not being a smart ass.

by Steve4192 on Aug 21, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Read the quotes

From McCarthy Himself:

On his possible return: “That’s up to the UFC. That’s not up to me. … Dana [White] is the guy who runs the UFC. He has a personal problem with me. That’s fine. It’s his decision.”

Rossen’s analysis:

“Is it really? Referees are recruited, employed and paid by athletic commissions. . . "

by Rob Maysey on Aug 22, 2009 3:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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