Keith is just angry that he was yelling out every single command from the corner in plain understandable English and he completely wrecked his brothers chances at even being competitive with B.J.

Maybe next time he’ll do his job in a responsible and correct manner. This is a whole lot of sour grapes.

Eye poking is the new greasing.

My understanding is that Keith Florian is this sort of person – a jerk. I recall some exchange between Keith and the Lauzon brothers that caused plans of the Lauzon’s training with KENFLO to evaporate instantly.

God bless Keith for sticking up for his brother 100%. I get that. But still, it’s as if Keith is living vicariously through Kenny. Or maybe Keith is just being ironic in the wake of greasegate.

Losing to BJ Penn is not something about which anyone should be ashamed, and with the excuses Keith is providing, it sounds like he feels there is reason to be shamed. Sure, it’s a tough spot for Kenny having already received two title shots, but there are only two or three fighters outside of BJ Penn for whom an argument could be made about their standing in the division being better than KENFLO’s. KENFLO will be back in the title mix, and probably a lot sooner than he was this past time around.

It is so refreshing to hear a fighter or his camp come out and say, we just got beat that night and the other guy was the better fighter for a few minutes out there and we will go back, work harder and come back better than ever. Oh, wait….

Has Florian been hanging out with BJ’s mom?

eye poking was the original greasing, remember the Iceman’s rampant charges of eye poking…..as for the layoff….in the stand up KenFlo didn’t look as sharp, his timing was off, but he just couldn’t take BJ down despite how much time he had him against the cage/fence.

It was clear that from the beginning, even if the skill level was more even (which it wasn’t), BJ’s strength and power was way above Kenny’s. I don’t think it was even close; BJ was probably just teasing Kenny that he could make it to the 4th round without getting tired.

That and they have to build a sound-proof helmet for Keith (or was it the other corner man). During the Neer-Batman fight and the title fight, that’s all you could hear, even Rogan was commenting on it.

Kenny’s brother should have learned some lessons from BJ’s camp about whining after a loss.

these days would tell their camps/family members to shut the hell up after a loss. Nothing good comes from this & it really does make it look like the fighter themselves are the ones who are whining just like it did when BJ’s camp did it after GSP.

I was pulling for Kenny as much as anyone else, but as soon as I saw that Kenny couldn’t take BJ down and was basically emulating GSP’s game plan, I thought it was only a matter of time before Kenny lost. Kenny won’t say it, sure, but his brother coming out and complaining isn’t any better. I’m sure ring rust could have effected Kenny, but the intentional eye poking, etc. C’mon, dude. Sometimes you just get beat, and Kenny got beat. Simple as that. The last thing we need is anothery whiny family like the Penns.

On another note: Gray Maynard? Frankie Edward? Guida? Tough, tough fights ahead for Kenny.

I have had 7 professional fights. 5 amateur fights. Never lost an amateur fight then lost my third pro fight. I could have played the grease card on that fight because this guy that beat me grinded me for three 3 minute rounds and I couldn’t even as much as hold his neck down in my guard. Granted he was a wrestler I can submit guys left and right at bjj tournaments. But I should have worked harder on take down defense instead of assuming that when he took me down I would submit him. I never blamed anyone but myself.

Kenny had a bad game plan. I don’t think it was ring rust, I didn’t see the eye poke. But in mma if you fight you understand that with open finger gloves your going to get poked quite often. Sometimes its intentional sure but 90 percent is incidental. Kenny had a horrible strategy and if your not on your A+ game vs elite guys like bj then your going to lose. Easy as that.

If your game plan is to hold someone against the cage until you tire them out you’re pretty much admitting that your opponent is better than you everywhere unless you get him tired first.

It’s pathetic.

Maybee Florian should just drop to Feather? He seemed small for LW, his strategy would have worked better if he had some extra weight to push BJ around with against the cage.

Haha, the hype got to the Florini’s heads. Did he really think he was going to go out there and beat BJ? Pfft, not with that crappy gameplan he had. They should blame the loss on that. If BJ gets by Diego and Frankie Edgar he’s cleaned out the division. Good stuff.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the disparity between the skill level of the champions far surpasses the abilities of anyone else in their respective divisions, the only exception being maybe Lesnar. Were Fedor in the UFC however…ah, crap…

Florian fought gamely but just couldn’t land anything of consequence or take BJ down. That doesn’t mean Florian (the #2 ranked lightweight as of two weeks ago!) is a bad fighter or being sore. The guy just lost his second championship fight; cut the guy some slack for expressing disappointment and wanting to get back into contention.

I agree with the sentiment. Give Florian one of the top guys…personally I’m angling for a rematch with Sherk. Then we’ll see what he’s made of…