Gegard Mousasi talks about whether the UFC gave him an offer on Sherdog Radio: (audio)
JB: Were you offered and not told about an offer from UFC? Is there a rift between you and your management?
GM: There was no offer from the UFC. There were never negotiations about me going to the UFC. I have a 2 fight deal with DREAM. Even if I wanted to fight in the UFC it wouldn't have happened, I have also signed with EA games and I don't think the UFC is very happy about that. There was no chance I'd go to the UFC. Strikeforce and DREAM let me fight in other organizations, that was the best deal for me.
JB: To dispel all rumors, Is there any difficulty between you and your management at M-1?
GM: No.
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now are all the bloggers going to be responsible journalist and retract all the BS they have been posting and apologize for posting articles and writing editorials WITHOUT ever getting both sides of the story??
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it wouldnt be the first time
M1 payed attention to what goes on in blogs, polls and message boards online
and then use it to base judgements/make statements
why the hell should this mess be any different?
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by blubber_guard on Aug 13, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
This quote really doesn’t mean anything. He was never offered a contract. We already knew that. He was fed numbers, and called the UFC on those numbers, but they were never an official offer.
Furthermore, he simply says “No”. It really doesn’t matter at this point. He has to fight his contract out, and he already said he wants to box.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
everyone said that M1 was screwing him over, but he just said there is no difficulty between him and his management….. so is he lying and is getting screwed over still by his management??
and i am still confused? why would Mousasi even be expecting offers from the UFC when he knows he still has 2 fights left with Dream?
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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JB: Were you offered and not told about an offer from UFC?
The interviewer obviously didn’t understand the full details of the story. The UFC themselves even said they never made an offer …that was the whole point.
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True. All Joe Silva said was that they would have honored his existing Affliction contract due to the Affliction/UFC partnership if they picked him up. They weren’t interested because of the conditions Gegard stated and thus didn’t offer a contract at all.
lol this interview means absolutely nothing. why don’t people do some research before asking irrelevant questions? anyways… here’s a decent question I came up with and it took me 30 seconds:
Where you ever told there was a 40/40 offer from the UFC (even if you didn’t want to go there anyways) and if so from whom did you hear it?
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There was no offer from the UFC. There were never negotiations about me going to the UFC.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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HE IS LYING!!! and UFC RULES!!!! and Mouassi is clearly running from Machida!!!
i predict the death the Strikeforce is 12 months.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
shooter/cutter for AllElbows.com
Well just because he says he doesn’t have a problem now doesn’t mean that he didn’t have one with them a week ago, you would think that M-1 probably spent the whole last week smoothing things over with him (may also be why the Fedor vs Mousasi exhibition came about). Why would he of no commented the question then but answered it no now? If he had said "no’ then there would of never been any controversy about this at all.
what do you base this on???
1. he still has 2 fights with dream
2. he wants to box on showtime
3. the EA deal
so WHY WOULD HE EVEN ENTERTAIN AN OFFER FROM THE UFC, that never existed anyway?
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
shooter/cutter for AllElbows.com
yes… everybody is saying M1 made up a UFC offer, and had him sign with Strikeforce instead,, and Joe Silva said there was no offer, but they wouldve guaranteed the affliction contract if there was.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
shooter/cutter for AllElbows.com
Did you think about it? Did you read what Mousasi said and think about what he didn’t say and the words he used?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
so its what he didnt say?? so M1 screwed over Mousasi still? how so?? start over please.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
shooter/cutter for AllElbows.com
If you didn’t see it the first time, I doubt you will the second. Just remember that what a person doesn’t say is often more important than what he does. Word choices also have connotations attached with them, and the timing of statements is also important.
What it boils down to is Mousasi almost certainly had issues with his management a few weeks ago, and since then they have either made up or he is planning on jumping ship as soon as he can. I personally think they have come to a new arrangement and Mousasi probably has some dirt on them.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
So why do you keep going on about how there was no contract offer? We all know there was never a contract offer, the whole point of the entire controversy was that there never was any contract offer from the UFC.
Editorial Note by Brent Brookhouse: Bottom line: M-1 lied to Mousasi to get him to sign a deal they wanted him to sign. They looked out for their own interests instead of his. They violated their duty to the client. The fact that Joe said they didn’t make an offer is actually worse. It means that rather than lying about the numbers offered they cut off any potential negotiations by claiming a poor offer was made before the UFC had a chance to establish a starting point for negotiations.
can someone point to where Mousasi was lied to by M1?
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
shooter/cutter for AllElbows.com
Gegard Mousasi talks about maybe going to the UFC July 22nd
“My manager told me that he had spoke to Joe Silva, the matchmaker of the UFC,” Mousasi said. "I think that it’s a possibility for me to fight (in the UFC) if I want to fight. But the UFC I think would be better for me at a later stage of my career.http://mmajunkie.com/news/15583/despite-looking-for-big-challenges-light-heavyweight-gegard-mousasi-in-no-rush-to-come-to-ufc.mma
Joe Silva: Aug 7th
"Apy called me about a week later, wanting to clarify things. He said that there was some miscommunication between his fighter and management. The tone of the call was very polite," Silva explained.http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/6/980383/joe-silva-talks-gegard-mousasis
But when Silva inquired as to how all of this started, that’s when things got a little murky.
"Apy told me that he had a UFC source tell him that we were going to offer 40/40, and it was relayed to Mousasi. I asked Apy who the source was, and he declined to tell me. I explained that we never offered any sort of deal, and things sort of ended there," Silva continued.
Back in July Mousasi was saying that his management had talked to the UFC and it was possible for him to go there but as has been established the UFC wasn’t even trying to contact Mousasi’s management due to the EA issue. So we have a direct quote from Mousasi back in July saying his manager talked to Silva and the UFC was possible and we have Silva saying that he didn’t and it wasn’t and no offer was made at all, obviously something fishy went on in this situation. Why would Mousasi’s management tell him that they had discussed him going to the UFC with Joe Silva back in July if they hadn’t? Why would Mousasi say that in an interview back in July unless that is what his management had told him?
It should also be noted that Apy Echteld(Aug 6th) said there was contact with the UFC regarding Mousasi’s contract in the past, of course Joe Silva says their wasn’t because of the EA issue. It’s not like this is just coming from Joe Silva there are quotes from Mousasi and Echteld saying that they were in contact with the UFC about a contract when that obviously didn’t happen.
http://www.mmaconvert.com/2009/08/06/m-1-global-fedor-strikeforce-conference-call-notes/
Apy Echteld confirms there were contact with the UFC regarding Mousasi’s contract in this past, wouldn’t go into detail, but said Mousasi’s happy with Strikeforce contract and will honor it. Confirms the UFC tried to step in and stop the Babalu-Mousasi fight and says they wanted Mousasi the "cheap and easy way."
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