UFC Counter-Programs Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg With UFC 100
by Nick Thomas on Aug 12, 2009 2:40 PM EDT
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The Spike TV telecast of UFC 100 on Saturday, August 15 at 10:00pm includes the following fights:
Heavyweight Championship Bout
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
Middleweights
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Middleweights
Alan Belcher vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
Light Heavyweights (prelim)
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Lightweights (prelim)
Shannon Gurgerty vs. Matt Grice
Light Heavyweights (prelim)
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
HT: UFC.com
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Well then
I was reserving judgment on the impending war, but it’s fully on now.
I STILL poop rainbows.
They didn’t start slowly either. Using UFC 100 is pretty much coming out guns blazing.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 12, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, I would have held on to that one until Fedor's first fight for Strikeforce.
But then again, tanking their ratings right out of the gate may damn the whole enterprise.
Hmmm…there was a reason Jon Jones was on the undercard…
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
That is some serious fire power.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Aug 12, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
damn.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
They got me with the prelims. Looking forward to Coleman/Bonnar and Jones-jitsu.
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
by thetakeover on Aug 12, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hell yea, I didn’t get to see either of those fights. Nice move on the UFC’s part getting me to tune in despite ordering the PPV the first time.
Also, Declaration of Hendopendence!
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 12, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Same here.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 12, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i can’t see this pulling 1 potential viewer. ufc drem 1.72 million PPV buys, everyone who could have possibly wanted to see it, watched that fight only a month ago.
strikeforce is on showtime, a premium cable channel you dont have unless there is something specific you want to watch on that channel. strikeforce draws between 300K-600K viewers.
if you pay for showtime, you’re not going to miss this live event to watch a fight card you just watched last month.
as for the rest of the other “avenues” to watch it live, those people will never drop a dime to pay for showtimes monthly fee and will never contribute to strikeforce’s bottom line.
they’re screwed.
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Aug 12, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I seen it on ppv but will be watching this broadcast just because I didn’t get to see those undercard fights
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
just out of curiosity, do you pay for showtime?
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
it’s part of my u-verse package so I guess so
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
The last Strikeforce fight on Showtime had about 245,000 viewers (according to Dana White)
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
I believe he said only 4 people watch Strikefarce...
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Aug 13, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I have Showtime, but I’ll be switching back and forth between the two. That or at least DVR-ing 100 even though I watched it live and have the PPV on my computer.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Aug 12, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
But, people that don’t know about the showtime card (which is going to be a lot of people) are going to watch this.
Then you have to take into account the people who are watching the showtime card, see the skinless muscle creatures teaching them how to jab, switch over to SPike, see a fight they never saw before, and get stuck on spike for 15 minutes.
I watched my very first Strikeforce event earlier this month (Diaz/Shamrock) that had been sitting on my DVR for a couple of weeks, and the skinless muscle creatures took me buy surprise. It was like creating a moveset on SmackDown vs. Raw or something only instead of something cool like a muscle buster they were showing double leg take downs.
by black dragon on Aug 12, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
the most watched strikeforce card on Showtime got around 375k viewers and this was a co-promotion with EliteXC.
The counter programming is not just about ratings… counter programming affects ratings but it waters down syndication: bars, get togethers, residual effect post strikeforce card, monday morning water cooler discussions, etc…
competition brings more MMA to fans.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
shooter/cutter for AllElbows.com
and vice versa
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
competition brings more fans to MMA
by Pooman on Aug 12, 2009 2:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s already worked….fans like me will tune in to see the prelims that we only heard about.
Wait, no I won’t it’s my wedding anniversary Saturday…..hey honey, let’s go watch two chicks beat each other up…probably won’t go over well.
I already cancelled my Showtime b/c of the economy....
…but damn. Def. watching UFC 100 again.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 12, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
And Thats Why UFC Will Crush All Competitors
Affliction had the same problem, pretty much the whole promotion was on the line at every major show and the UFC just killed Carano-Cyborg without spending a dime.
good thing too
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
They get mroe juice this way
They can premier GSP alves at some other important date.
it really didn’t keep me when it was on live so
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
Because he’s white (honky) and looks like a gorilla (kong).
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 12, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I suspect people got tired of calling him Cock Chestnar all the time.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 12, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
This of course would be the perfect time for the “THAT’S RACIST” gif.
by black dragon on Aug 12, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure that name is appropriate though, he is built like a black man remember?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
rec'ing the honky kong explainer
because it was delivered with a straight face by Richard Wade.
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
by thetakeover on Aug 12, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah like i'm gunna watch
a show on spike with commercials every 3 minutes over a live event on showtime. Everyone who actually spends anytime in front of a TV most definitely has a DVR anyway. Record the UFC (so you can skip the commercials) and watch strikeforce live. DUH.
by Hohlraum on Aug 12, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’ll be DVRing both so that I can watch football.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 12, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn…That’s right. Chargers pre season starts at 7. But I can only DVR 2 at a time, guess I’ll have to catch a re-run of the game.
'Ello G'vnor!
The Charger game will probably be blacked out.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 12, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And it's pre-season
meaning only the 1st quarter will have anyone you’ve actually heard of.
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
Still, seeing a professional football game in person beats watching Strikeforce on television. Anyone know if it’s going to be on tape delay or live?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 12, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Winner!
Not only that, I will be DVR’ing Roy Jones Jr vs Jeff Lacy, watching Showtime’s Gina vs Cyborg, and then catching the Spike TV replay.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice!
Although, LOL at someone mentioning Gabe’s name as a reason to watch an MMA fight.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not the reason to watch
Wander is. He’s going to choke that little fucker out in round one. Some other good fights on that card, too. Mike Dolce vs Roman Mitichyan, Brandon Wolff vs Thomas Denny and Daniel Puder vs WARPATH!!!!!
I STILL poop rainbows.
Oh
Makes sense now.
=)
LOL, that does sound fun.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
this will be better than watching UFC 100 live
i’ve been wanting to watch the jones and coleman fights since 100
You could have done that a day after UFC 100. Google is your friend.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Or you could have bought a ticket and watched it live like I did. =)
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 12, 2009 3:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Give A Toast to Strikeforce
Gawd I love counter programming. I hope we all make sure our buddies are watching/recording Showtime so this trend continues. I wonder if hte UFC will counter SF’s first PPV with their own PPV or just do a Fight Night. Personally, I think a stacked PPV would acheive their objectives better, but of course I’m hoping for a freee event.
OH THIS SHIT IS ON!!
I hope they merge the ufc and wec soon so we can get more live counter programming.
I will be watching Strikeforce on Showtime and Lacy vs Roy Jones Jr on HBO.
DVR’ing UFC 100 b/c I already saw all the fights.
So remind me...
why did I pay $54 to see it live in HD when I can now see it FREE in HD????
I swear, first damn PPV I actually spent money on, and look at what they do…
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
Easy.
Since they will be countering Strikeforce now, they will show the PPV’s a month after they show on Spike for free. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
^this. Unless you can go a month without hearing the results, I’m not seeing why you wouldn’t still pay to watch it live.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 12, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
EA Sports Will Be Sponsoring Strikeforce Card and Making Big Announcement...
Be sure to check out Strikeforce on Showtime this weekend…EA SPORTS MMA will be on the cage mat and on 3 fighter’s shorts. We will also have big news to announce this Saturday around 3pm EST….stay tuned
EA is co-promoting the game with M-1 Global! It will now be called EA M-1 MMA 2010 F U UFC. Vadim Finkelstein and Jerry Millen are gonna be on the cover with Millen pushing Finkie on a swingset.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Aug 12, 2009 3:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I will take the under on that guess.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Short notice!
How were they able to completely re-do Saturday’s lineup only 3 days beforehand?
Not that I’m complaining… lol
Keep Swillin',
Bruz
LOL
Because Spike scheduled 5 hours of UFC the top 100 UFC fights previously. Not that big of a change, but it is pretty damn short notice.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
With as much money as Zuffa is making Spike.....
I’m sure they were more than happy to give up the airtime. On which now they will make even MORE money than previously scheduled.
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
Yup. UFC 100 replay will give them good ratings.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Over or under 3.3 million is the question
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
Actually...
the question is, if you’re Spike, will it do a higher rating than a replay of the UFC Top 100 would do? And Spike knows the answer is “Uh, yeah!” and that’s why they’re giving up the time.
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
This is the last time..
Next time UFC bumps Manswers, I’m boycotting.
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Aug 12, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
as a side note Deadliest Warrior got renewed
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
There's a shock
That had video game written all over it.
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
I thought there was going to be a video game based on the show
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Aug 13, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You can predict future trends by understanding current events:
The Carano vs Cyborg fight was gift wrapped for strikeforce with showtime and CBS building this fight up for over a year… yet all indicators show less than a pussy fart of impact will be made by this card. THIS IS AN UTTER PROMOTIONAL FAILURE.
Now some people are predicting Strikeforce is able to build up a foreigner who doesnt speak english and who doesnt have any compelling opponents into a ppv fight in a year… These predictions are based on what exactly???
Strikieforce cant even demonstrate their promotional capabilities on a fight that was already set up for them (95% of the leg work was already done) – This fight in general and Carano in specific was a softball waiting to be hit out of the park.
I always said Zuffa can do nothing to Strikeforce unless they are stupid enough to overextend themselves… and now their King is exposed and just waiting to be taken.
Will Strikeforce completely fold? probably not – but when this is all said and done they will have sacrificed every piece to save their King (most everything they have built up to this point).
When Zuffa is done with them they will be back to where they started and the “niche” they could have owned will be gone.
by mmalogic on Aug 12, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
He hath eaten me out of house and home, he hath
put all my substance into that fat belly of his: but I will have some
of it out again, or I will ride thee a-nights like the mare.
Keep firing Assholes!
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.
by Ubernoober on Aug 12, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i stil think they can draw a large audience if they get on CBS, wouldn’t you agree? They’ll never hold a successfull PPV but CBS can market a fight particularly if the MMA audience in generall continues to grow.
How do they make enough money without PPV to afford challengers to the great Edor?
Keep firing Assholes!
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.
I dont know but I think a large TV audience can still generate several million(5-10mil?) in ad revenue over a 2-3 hr broacast. Thus increasing the amount CBS is willing to pay SF.
I’m glad people are still using the name “Edor,” as I personally think it’s far superior to “Fedro.”
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 12, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The second show on CBS where they didn’t have Kimbo and only proven MMA fighters did lousy… the UFC rerun on spike that same night did like twice the number in the Target demo.
If Strikeforce can get 500k viewers on showtime then they can do Kimbo type numbers on network TV.
If CBS doesnt pick up Fedors second fight then it will most likely be on ppv.
But yeah if Network can be monetized Zuffa will be the one really monetizing it. UFC network projections are more than 2x Kimbo’s numbers. If this can be maintained 4 times a year then not only will this be a great direct revenue generator but also another huge vehicle to add fans into the ppv funnel due to the increasing Zuffa’s distribution channel.
by mmalogic on Aug 12, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Strikeforce can get to 500k viewers on showtime and get on CBS then they have effectively lasted the 1st round and will be finished in round 2.
So far only kimbo got 500k plus viewers… no other MMA card on showtime broke 375k viewers.
Cokers problems are only beginning.
by mmalogic on Aug 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know what would be fun to watch on Saturday night?
Some LIVE fights like the Striekforce card on Showtime and Roy Jones Jr vs Jeff Lacy on HBO. Hell of a night right there filled with live fights.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
RJJ and Lacy
isn’t a fight that got me excited…at all. I would rather watch the rerun of PRIDE or UFC 100. I will watch the Strikeforce card even tho I am disappointed Diaz smoked his way out of a title.
Jones needs to win big here for a money fight, and Lacey was once considered one of the best prospects. It interests me. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I watched
the Lacy vs Calzaghe fight back in the day. All of Lacys luster has since gone. RJJ is starting to tarnish his legacy too. I wish he would stop fighting.
That was a dissapointing performance by Lacy, but damn, no one was able to beat Calzaghe, since he is retired now. The reason why I am interested is that it will definitely propel RJJ to a big fight or get Lacy back on the right track.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
So, is it going to be on live. I swear it was on tape delay last time.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 12, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Both
Showtime HD will be delayed but Showtime East will have it live.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Aug 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Weak.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 14, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
they might do something like the editing for tv version of Snakes on a Plane you know the monkeyfighting snakes line – just dub over what Brock is saying
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
I see my man Dana is on the job.....
They simply pissed him off, and now will have to pay. Whole this signing situation, and idiotic lies and missinormation campaign from M-1 side of it will now backfire on Strikeforce… sorry Strikefarce, or maybe Strike-fart:)) sorry – but don’t thing this thing will hold. Maybe forces like CBS will hold it for a while, but then something evil will happen – like someone will do something not acceptable (like getting drunk, or biting someone in the ass) and they will go out with fart….:) don’t get me wrong – I love them, because I love all human beings
by UniversalSoul on Aug 12, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
if strikeforce had a HBO deal they could do better
because more people are subscribed to HBO then showtime. They could of done probaly double or triple the viewers with then then showtime.
Dana White to strikeforce:
“FUCK YOU!!!!”
I'M DISRESPECTFUL TO DIRT!! CAN YOU SEE THAT I AM SERIOUS?
GET OUT OF MY WAY, ALL OF YOU. THIS IS NO PLACE FOR LOAFERS. JOIN ME OR DIE. CAN YOU DO ANY LESS?
Nice sig
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Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
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Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 14, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anybody know...
Which prelim fight made the octagon look like a used tampon at 100?
by Screwface on Aug 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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