Anderson Silva to take on Brock Lesnar?!
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 11, 2009 3:09 PM EDT
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According to Wrestling News Desk , the next move for Anderson Silva will be to take on Brock Lesnar."I believe that brilliant Brazilian Silva is seriously contemplating giving up his world middleweight crown to concentrate on the light-heavyweight and heavyweight divisions in the future.
And it would be in the biggest division where he could go to war with champ Lesnar who would have a weight advantage of more than FOUR stone over him.
Silva moved to light-heavy over the weekend where he demolished Forrest Griffin with a spectacular striking display at UFC 101 in Philadelphia.
The contest was over inside the first round and left people talking about a possible match-up with world light-heavy champ Lyoto Machida – but the pair are friends and I understand Silva will never meet him for that reason.
And that’s where a bout with Lesnar could come into the picture. Although the giant American is far heavier, both fighters are similar in height at around 6ft 3ins and I know that Silva would not be afraid of such a challenge.
He gave a clue to his feelings when he said after beating Griffin inside four minutes: "I want to fight against the best. Whoever the best is at the time, I want to fight them.""
Anderson is a force at 185 and Potentially 205 but taking on Lesnar is a whole different ball game. Not only is the size difference huge but Lesnar's biggest strength is Anderson's biggest weakness, wrestling. If Anderson could avoid the takedown and stay on the outside then he has a chance but i see Lesnar by TKO due to GNP.
Your thoughts and comments on a possible match up..
VS.
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LOL! Epic use of Office Space.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 11, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
the japanese mma fan in me...
wants to see this matchup, but the silva fan inside me says it should never happen. i like freak matchups for pure curiousity and entertainment, but i think silva would get ground and pounded.
with that said, i would still love to see this happen and if silva won, it would be the greatest display of technique over strength since david vs goliath!
The non-Brock Lesnar fan in me still says… Lesnar puts Silva through the side of the cage via bull charge, but the Silva fan in me wants to see Silva place a fist in Lesnar’s jaw.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 11, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Silva could potentially put a nice combo together and end Brock’s night.
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Aug 11, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I also think Brock could run with the bulls in Pamplona and potentially crush half of them… so I don’t know.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 11, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhhh…come on man. Silva is incredible. Silva is a freak. Silva is fast as a cat with gas on his ass. Silva could beat 99.999999999% of people who have ever lived on earth. That being said, Brock is incredible. Brock is a freak. Brock is almost 300lbs of muscle and explosive strength. Silva would have a punchers chance at best. I’m sorry, but if we were talking about anyone else (except Fedor of course), but don’t let your hatred for Lesnar blind you. I love Silva. I would love to see him do it, but it just wouldn’t happen. Very, very slight chance. About the same chance as a jew at an al queda convention…
The realist in me says Silva lands his hardest shot directly on Brock’s chin… Brock stares at him, roars, and football-tackles him into next year. Then he eats him in the middle of the cage.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 11, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Like the football tackle he used on Herring? I could see that happening.
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
haha…. or the cinderblock-punch that flipped Herring upside down. God only know what it would have does to Silva….of course Silva probably would have just dodged. Then Brock could just hulk-smash him.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 11, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont know… Randy coture shook up brock a lil bit. and for the 4 seconds that Mir got to strike with brock at UFC 100 he had him hurt. I think the spider has as good of a chance as anyone else in the HW division.
cain – was dropped by kongo repeatedly
carwin – was rocked by GG, barley willed out a victory
nog – could possibly end up like Nog-Sapp fight. has a legit shot to pull a sub out of nowhere.
other than that he will likely take massive punishment
coture – way too small
brock via tony robins mouth?
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Aug 11, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
ya i think theres a good chance of the bull rush and ground and pound.
what about randy vs silva at 205, winner gets machida? rashad and rampage are tied up, jardine and thiago are tied up, and forrest is not going to be back for a while? what say you
We can stop putting Randy up against top 5 competition. Just let it go.
by goodbones on Aug 11, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Amen^^
rec’d…. him and Chuck Liddell… just let them go and quit thinking they can hang in the top 5… let them fight some cans and fade into oblivion already.
He was like 'You hit like a bitch.' I'm like all right. And I stood up and slapped him. I go 'Now you just got hit like one.'" - Kurt Pellegrino.
by Gunslinger20 on Aug 11, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
your logic is astoundingly stupid
1, randy is also tied up (oh hai nog didnt see you thur)
2, jardine/silva takes place on the SAME card as nog/randy
why on earth would they use randy when he’s at HW when the winner of silva jardine would be free around the same time, given medical suspensions etc
oh
“jitz” is an awful word,
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Aug 12, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Only people
who don’t train have a problem with the word ‘jits’.
My bad if I don’t want to pronounce or spell out the phrase ‘Brazilian Jiu Jitsu’ every time i’m referring to it.
Supporting all Las Vegas MMA. Xtreme Couture FTMFW.
'09 is the year of the FW's.
by ElliotMatheny on Aug 12, 2009 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions
that wasnt even directed at you
if you hit “up” it takes you to the comment i replied to
and i also said jitz,
but im sorry who i am to say something about the sport of emma may is silly
carry on
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Aug 12, 2009 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Silva versus Brock would be laughable. No chance. He only fights people he can beat (i.e. NOT Fedor, Machida or Brock)
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 11, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
Way to make it seem like Silva has handpicked and/or ducked any opponents, it’s not his fault he is too good for his weight class.
by Buddha Brown on Aug 11, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He said himself that he won’t fight Machida. Silva is better than everyone else, and he said he wants to fight the best. The only people better than him are Machida and the top heavyweights, so he needs to stop ducking Machida. Who cares if they train together? This is business.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 11, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Except Dana White said...he'd make him fight Machida if it comes to that.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 11, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, hopefully Dana won’t fedor-it-up. Please make it happen.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 11, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Once again...
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 11, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's nuts
Brock or any other top HW would kill Silva. There’s a reason we have weight classes in MMA.
Any other heavyweight? So you are saying you would bet on any UFC heavyweights over Anderson Silva?
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
Any other top HW
There are a few UFC HWs I would bet on over Silva, yes.
Im the opposite. There are a few guys that I think would be the favorite over Silva in a fight. One of them being Lesner.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
who?
Gonzaga? Carwin? Mirko? Cain? Mir? Kongo? Randy?
Any of them could snag a win, but no more easily than could Anderson. Guys like Anderson are LIGHTYEARS ahead of the majority of fighters. We’ll soon be entering an era of super mega awesome ultra doubleplus good talent + athleticism that we have only seen glimpses of thus far, and one of those glimpses is Anderson.
he was injured. injured bad.
Only Carwin from the list and only if he decided to LnP Spider for three rounds.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
What’s he going to do to Carwin? His strikes would have no effect, and he’s not going to outwrestle him. I’m not a big fan of Carwin, but I don’t see any way he loses to Silva.
what?
Carwin doesn’t feel punches? lol thats just a crazy talk dude “his strikes would have no effect”
We dont know a whole lot about shane’s chin, we do know taht gonzaga absolutely rocked him and failed to capitalize
he was injured. injured bad.
Gonzaga sort of stunned him. And Gonzaga hits way, way, way harder than Anderson. I really can’t believe that you can fail to see that.
Gonzaga hits way, way, way harder than Anderson
What are you basing that claim on?
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
let me go back
and look at all of Gonzaga’s punching KOs. okay. I saw IT.
he was injured. injured bad.
Huh?
Anderson has been a top fighter since 2001. He’s very good, but let’s get a grip and stop this “evolution” silliness. And no, he’s not beating any of the guys you mentioned except maybe Kongo and maybe Randy.
Come on
Do we have to resort to childish name-calling in every discussion? It’s pretty tiring.
How exactly are Cro-Cop, Gonzaga and Mir going to beat him?
There is an argument that Cain and Carwin could wrestle and LnP Silva down for three rounds but those other guys are in deep trouble.
Cro-Cop would get hurt really badly and has nothing else to fall back on besides his kick boxing and Gonzaga and Mir are both at a huge disadvantage standing and I’m not sure they would be able to close the distance to get Silva to the mat.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
CroCop, even the current, near-shot CroCop, would KO him standing, most likely. Gonzaga could KO him standing or take him down and work him over. Mir would get him down and finish quickly.
whove you got:
Don Frye vs Anderson Silva?
Let me guess: Ko from standing?
he was injured. injured bad.
CroCop, even the current, near-shot CroCop, would KO him standing
Very very very little chance of that happening. Cro Cop is a little bit slower than Forrest at this point. Good luck with that.
Gonzaga would do what now?
Mir would finish quickly? Hes not fighting a random dude, hes fighting a BJJ black belt
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
I’m not missing anything. You seem to think that the weight class is a magical boundary that renders anyone who crosses it powerless.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
Uh no
I’m just taking into account that Mir has shown his skills against significantly larger opponents than Silva has.
truly
youre overevaluating the weight class thing.
Anderson isn’t even fighting in his weight class right now and has 2 KO’s, each in the first round.
look at wrestlers, they cut significantly more weight when they wrestle than they do when the come to MMA. if weightclasses were nearly as significant as your claiming, they would keep doing the steeper cuts to keep up.
he was injured. injured bad.
OK
If Silva could beat HWs, why isn’t he? His rewards would be so much greater if he could move up and beat a guy like Carwin than they are fighting the Leites, Griffins, and Cotes of the world.
i think he'd be game
but think about what a mess that would make for the UFC as far as promoting goes dealing with the belts and who is defending them, etc etc
he was injured. injured bad.
Sure
Yeah, I’m sure that’s his main consideration in not moving up to HW and crossover success.
So are you saying that he probably wants to do it, but Dana doesn’t want to let him because it’s too much paperwork?
if by paper
you mean money, yeah.
plus theres this guy, his name is joe silva, and what he does is hes a matchmaker.
when you run a promotion your run yourself quickly into the ground trying to quickly cash in on a buck. moving anderson up to heavy, when he holds a belt at middleweight, before he gets a shot at a light heavyweight belt would be ridiculous, especially if it were a title fight for heavyweight. whats anderson supposed to do, defend middleweight and heavyweight belts? he’d end up fighting maybe twice a year to account for adding/dropping weight. thats bad for business when the guy who own two of your promotions 5 belts only fights maybe 2 times a year, 1 time at each weight class
he was injured. injured bad.
If Silva could beat a top HW, that would generate a ton of mainstream buzz for the UFC and him. It would be well worth it to the promotion.
Hate to break it to you but beating Mir or Gonzaga aint going to do anything as far as mainstream buzz is concerned
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
Any of those heavyweights could easily just grab him and throw him around fairly easily, to be honest. It will be hard to stuff a charge from someone if they can just lift you up and carry you like a suitcase.
Just like Forrest could easily grab him and throw him around because hes a huge 205er? They would have to close the distance without being completely murdered by strikes.
Also when they get there they get to a guy who has an unreal thai plum and a black belt in judo. Good luck throwing him around.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
Forrest is NOT a wrestler
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by Well Read Idiot on Aug 12, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
No they are not, but they are also heavyweights.
Not saying they would throw him around, but Forrest not being able to doesn’t really help your argument given he didn’t try, and is not a wrestler. He is a stand up fighter with an arsenal composed of leg kicks.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Aug 13, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about that ...
Silva would come into that fight with a similar weight to Fedor and Couture. I think he could beat Lesnar because the only guys that have given him trouble in his career are … guys that pulled submissions out of their arse. I think there are a few light heavyweights that could beat Lesnar.
by Johnnynumber5 on Aug 11, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva might weigh about as much as Fedor or Couture, but those guys have a history of beating top HWs, while Silva has never beaten any HW.
And no way can any LHW, including Machida, beat Lesnar.
wow
what makes you say a guy who beat Rich Franklin, Stephan Bonnar, Sokoudjou, BJ Penn, Tito Ortiz, Rashad Evans, Thiago Silva and soon Shogun can in “no way” beat Brock?
Brock has looked far from invincible thus far. Especially considering he’s been beaten.
he was injured. injured bad.
I don’t think Anderson is anywhere near as much of a threat as Mir in that area (considering that Mir outweighs Anderson by a significant margin). And did you really use a win over BJ Penn as evidence that Machida would have a chance against Brock? Yikes.
youre right
anybody who weighs 205 could beat bj.
my dad probably. he was a cop for while and in the reserves
he was injured. injured bad.
i hope you are joking. i dont know your dad, but machida barely beat bj and he is the champ at 205lbs.
Jesus Christ
Try addressing what I’m actually saying for once. Beating BJ in no way suggests that one can hang with a top-10 HW.
good job
youve succesfully ignored beating rich franklin, rashad evans, tito ortiz, sokoudjou, stephan bonnar, etc.
hes had more success at light heavyweight than randy couture, who has faired very well at heavyweight
he was injured. injured bad.
No
I haven’t ignored anything. But beating non-HWs doesn’t mean you can hang with a top HW. Sorry. And Randy was fairly successful at HW before moving down and dominating the top three LHWs in the UFC.
Brock Lesnar vs Terrance Cody
apparently the smart money should be on terrance.
he was injured. injured bad.
and that reason is to diminish previous title holders records and victories in one quick jab
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Aug 11, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Although I don't think this fight will never happen...
I think Silva can definately KO Brock if he can avoid the TD after he hits Brock the first time since Brock doesn’t like to get hit.
fightlockdown.com
He'd also need to avoid the beserker rage fit
Lesnar is going to rage out on him and feel no pain for about 30 seconds after he gets punched and plow him into the floor, pound on him and turn his face to burger meat like Mir, maybe snap one of his spindly ass arms. When he’s done, he will flip the bird to the crowd, piss on Bruce Buffer, and announce that he’s going to bang his wife in the ring
You forgot that Anderson Silva has cut-proof skin. That is one of his supernatural abilities along with head movement that dodges bullets and the ability to fly.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 11, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
"since Brock doesn’t like to get hit"
LOL @this.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Oh shit, I expect Subo here any minute.
I don’t think it’s as absurd as you would initially think. With Anderson’s striking and speed, he could actually have a small (5%?) chance. Not zero.
BOOSH
Subo got banned or something?
Really, what did he say?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
He said something very rude about someone’s wife. Enough said. End of discussion.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 11, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, my bad.
I didn’t know anything about all that. Gracias Leland.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
The size difference is just enormous. You know, I would be tempted to take Silva against any heavyweight striker, but a wrestler the size of Lesnar is much different. I, however, don’t see Lesnar blasting Silva on the feet with those “lunch boxes.” I wouldn’t bet on this fight happening in the UFC.
Now, Silva versus Cro Cop…I could imagine that, and I’d pick Silva.
Imagine what happened to Mir, but worse.
Keep firing Assholes!
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.
I'd love to see it
but it shouldn’t happen. Silva could win and I wouldn’t bat an eye, but he could also get seriously hurt.
Silva ...
would probably win that fight. The only guy I wouldn’t pick Silva to beat at this point is Fedor. If he fought Machida that would be a toss up but I’d still pick Silva.
This isn’t an indictment on Lesnar so much as it’s how good Silva is and he is simply on another level. I say that Fedor is 1 and Silva is 1A.
And the fact that machida barely beat bj is why i hope you are joking about any 205er beating bj including your dad
ah, that was a good fight
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
He was being sarcastic in the context of a disagreement about Silva being able to beat good HWs.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
troy’s dad is gonna be the next 205 champ, just you wait and see
by phantasma475 on Aug 11, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
No offense, but Brock would maul him. Silva couldn’t stop Brock from taking him down and the sheer size of Brock would be too much for Silva. The only way Silva could win would be to stick and move from the outside to the point where Brock would just get tired from walking.
to be fair, he has now KO’d two people while back pedalling. i think jumping up two weight classes is a bit of a tall order but i also dont think its an easy fight for brock
by phantasma475 on Aug 11, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe Silva would knock Brock out. Do we have evidence of this? No. It’s all speculation, but if you consider Silva’s speed, accuracy, power, and combine that with Brock’s lack of head movement, I see Brock getting clowned like everyone else.
That being said, no way does Dana allow this to happen. Putting the best fighters in there against one another is what makes the UFC great, but destroying your #1 cash cow for a 1 time fight is just not good business.
Machida vs. Silva would be the longest fight in history. Neither would engage. As much as I like watching both men counter strike you can only do that when one man actually tries to hit his apponent.
Lesner is just to big for Silva or Machida. But a lot of the other guys on the HW list would be fair game.
Silva would wreck Lesnar in round 2. I don’t care what any of you suckers before me are arguing about.
If Silva made it out of the first round
Without several skull fractures, I would base jump of the Mandalay Bay.
Thing is, You will NOT stuff a Brock takedown if you are A.Silva. Twiggy limbs make for easy lifting.
Brock just has to wait for ANY sort of strike from Anderson, or for him to move close enough to bait a punch, and just shoot and get a thumb and forefinger on any part of Anderson’s body.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Aug 12, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Who won?
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
by mythbuster on Aug 12, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
1000X rec'd
For the Princess Bride reference!
The Dread Pirate Roberts takes Silva any day of the week :-)
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Aug 13, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
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