Anderson Silva Does Whatever a Spider Can
by Mike Fagan on Aug 10, 2009 3:29 PM EDT
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If Anderson Silva's deconstruction of Forrest Griffin didn't impress you enough, FightMetric offers up some pretty impressive stats:
* Silva landed 13 of 25 total strikes, for an accuracy percentage of 52%. Silva has still never had a fight in which he landed less than half his attempted strikes.
* If you want to consider Silva's head movement, consider that Griffin landed 1 of 35 strikes thrown to Silva's head, or 3%. The average is 29%.
* With his three knockdowns against Griffin, Silva becomes the only fighter in UFC history with two fights containing three knockdowns. He also did it in the second fight against Rich Franklin.
* The three knockdowns also moves Silva into second place for most knockdowns in UFC history, behind only Chuck Liddell.
One of thirty-five. Jimmy Fallon has a better hit-to-miss ratio.
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This is about Silva, not Forrest. Silva does this to everyone.
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Not Thales Leites!
Oh, wait.
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Thales Leites. The only man to go the distance with Anderson Silva in the UFC. Hes a legend.
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by Day Man on Aug 10, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Do we count flopping to your back as a knockdown? Because Anderson scored like 50 of those.
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The next fighter to get into the ring with Spider is a brave soul.
OT – Roy Jones Jr. hasn’t a chance in hell. Maybe 10 years ago. Maybe.
by Zou want a piece? on Aug 10, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
In a boxing ring? 10 years ago Jones Jr. takes Silva’s head off and its not even close. I’m more interested in the fight today but Silva is still not the favorite at all even with Jones clearly deteriorated hand speed and reaction time.
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The entire Jones Jr. vs. Silva prospect is a bit more intriguing with the recent match-up. I’m almost to the point where I’d be definitely interested in seeing it, just to see how it plays out.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 10, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
RJJ is, today, approximately 4 billion times faster than Forrest. He’s still knock Silva’s head off in a boxing match.
BOOSH
in boxing gloves
Andersons punches wont be as effective. In that fight he was clearly trying to land it on forrests button (hence the jaw injury). With boxing gloves, sometimes you just have to take a few hits.
You’re behind the times, sir. Latest news: no jaw injury.
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(Though in truth it’s all still just rumors at this point.)
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"Silva has still never had a fight in which he landed less than half his attempted strikes."
is that for her CAREER, or just in the UFC? either way… DAMN!
You’re in deep trouble. Team Black House has an internet division trolling message boards for these types of missteps.
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by Day Man on Aug 10, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That new picture could be iconic. Somebody needs to set it against the classic Ali photo, STAT!
(A little black and white “vintage” look would help too.)
by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
awesome awesome awesome
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Just need to crop the Silva photo and put them next to each other. JOYGASIM!
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You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. I wish I had more hands, so I could give this comment 4 thumbs up.
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I’ll throw my two hands in with yours. 4 thumbs up.
by Patrick Tenney on Aug 10, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody call the police...
…b/c if Forrest saw that he just might paint cherry pie on the wall.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
What you don’t realize is that Forrest is just about to sub Anderson using techniques taught by Robert Drysdale.
by bigweeze on Aug 10, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
We all know Sonny Liston was about to submit him with techniques taught by Robert Drysdale.
by DirtyML on Aug 10, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
While it’s certainly an awesome (and comparable) shot, it doesn’t live up to the Ali shot. There’s just too much back story and emotion with Ali/Liston.
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I wouldn’t bother trying. Anderson didn’t build the fight up like Ali did nor did Ali said “Get up and fight, sucker.”
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thats so wrong
youve clearly never been in a gym. Watch the documentary “assault in the ring” where the padding was removed from gloves and a guy was killed by it.
You’re disregarding the fact that Resto also admitted to plastering his hand wraps.
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they did a fight science thing on this with bas rutten. He could generate the same amount of force with with both sized gloves. Force equals mass times acceleration. So the mass may be greater, but you only have a perticular amount of strength with which to move it. So with the same effort, one actually punches faster with mma gloves.
So youve got the same force, 2 different sizes of gloves. MMA gloves are much smaller, smaller surface area. Pressure is force over area, as the area goes up the pressure goes down. Boxing gloves, by nature of having a larger surface area, distribute the pressure of a blow. While it may hurt more, its more of a stinging hurt like getting slapped, where getting hit with an mma glove is more akin to getting hit with a ball peen hammer.
Padding makes a difference. It dampens impact, making it less jarring and less likely to knock your brain around. Same reason you have an air bag in your car and shocks in the suspension, they dampen impact. If I hit someone with a baseball bat, then wrapped it in 4 inches of padding, its not going to do more damage because its heavier.
Resto accused his trainer of putting plaster casting in his gloves. That was never proven.
Not according to basic physics.
More cushion = longer negative acceleration = slower transfer of momentum. Same principle as airbags. That’s why people say boxers with MMA gloves hit harder – less padding to soften the blow.
Try stopping a car over 30s, then try stopping it immediately from the same velocity. Which one is more violent?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Aug 11, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2009/01/apples-and-oranges-gloves.html
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“There is also the balance of physics that needs to be taken into account. Smaller gloves mean smaller surface area, which means a smaller area of which the force generated in a punch can dissipate. This would lead one to conclude that an MMA glove creates a more ‘powerful’ punch then a boxing glove. However this is not true for several reasons. First is the issue of protection. The MMA glove provides less protection for the hand of the attacker then a boxing glove, thus his body’s bio-mechanics prevent him from throwing a punch with greater overall power then a boxing punch.”
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I remember seeing a Sports Science where they compared a football player’s hit to a rugby hit – the football hit was harder, but more disappated, whereas the hospital pass was half the impact, but all on the lower ribs. Same idea, I guess.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Aug 12, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Wasn’t Ali/Liston the bout where Ali actually showed up at Liston’s gym just to talk shit, and they got into a huge scuffle?
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by Leland Roling on Aug 10, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I was watching the “fight” again last night and I noticed Silvas reaction when Buffer announced him and the place filled with boos. Please someone make a GIF of that. His facial expressions are priceless. Funny stuff to say the least.
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
Silva doesn’t need English, his face does all the talking for him, at the post fight press conference it’s the same way. When he is asked if there are ever accidently knockouts in training, he looks up raises his eyes and makes this really funny face pointed at Rafael Cavalcante.
Dude cracks me up, I hate that two of the nicest/most funny guys in MMA had to fight eachother, it’s like watching clowns cry :*(.
by Patrick Tenney on Aug 10, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Him “holding” a mic from Ed Soares is hilarious as well.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!! Awesome!
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 10, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 17 recs
Lesnar
This just shows how confident Anderson is, he’s so relaxed even when the crowd is booing.
Compare his attitude with Lesnar’s, who went on a dopamine-rage after beating up Mir.
Exactly
He’s not even worried about Forrest at this point. lol That’s a bad man.
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 10, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry for him
I’m actually sorry for Anderson. It’s clear he loves to stand and bang, but there’s just no one willing to do so and actually make it worth his while.
The MW division is clean.
The LW division is almost clean. Who is left? Rampage? Thiago Silva? Young Black Dude? Hell, even offering Houston Alexander would be as exciting as all those other prospects.
Anderson Silva is just in another league, man. He’s years ahead of most fighters!
Some people and I were discussing this last night.
We came up with Luis Cane or Shogun after a loss against Machida.
I don’t think they will use either of those guys. Cane isn’t a main event level opponent and the UFC will only use Anderson in main event money fights at 205. I think the same can be said of Shogun at 205.
From a marketing perspective the fight that should happen next is the Axe Murderer at the same catch from the Franklin fight.
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Not so deep, huh
Suddenly, the LW division ain’t so deep. And Tito’s performance against Machida is the best the UFC has managed to throw at him.
KTFO
The Axe Murderer would get KTFO’d.
Well, I guess anyone I can think of will get KTFO’d against Anderson.
Did you knotice how old Wanderlei looks? Dude got his face smashed in sparring one too many times, because he still looked fresh when CroCop destroyed him. Now he looks like he went one step down the evolutionary scale, no disrespect to him.
and everyone
was raving about the training regimen at chute boxe back in the day,
all out / vicious sparring sessions, you see the results in wanderlei, and it’s sad,
by theblade on Aug 10, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s thinking “ooohhhh, you’re booing me now, but in 4 minutes you’ll be verbally tonguing my balls”.
And they were. The crowd definitely 180’d within a 3 minute period (after the initial first minute of feeling out period).
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Basically a “Fuck yeah!! THATS! WHAT! YOU! DO, ANDERSON!” type of situation where we all KNEW what he was capable of yet he wasnt giving it to us. I liked where he got all fired up in the interview with Rogan.
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 10, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t feel bad, most people don’t
by Devil Beest on Aug 10, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LEAVE JIMMY ALONE! lol
He isn’t that bad and his show is pretty good plus his band kicks ass!
BTW, 7th Floor West is the shizzle yo!
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 10, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The band is great. Jimmy is pretty much the least funny “famous” SNL member of the last 20 years. Hes more famous for breaking character and laughing than making the audience laugh.
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Ummm... no.
Molly Shannon holds that title and will for a very long time.
by Screwface on Aug 10, 2009 3:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dunno, have you seen Victoria Jackson lately?
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You so redundant.
And yes. Yes she did.
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This is true
And there is no such thing as a funny republican…
by Screwface on Aug 10, 2009 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's not true.
In theory.
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Glad I’m not the only one who thought Molly Shannon lacked anything resembling funny.
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Include me in that number.
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by Rundownloser on Aug 10, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Kattan
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by Scott C. Broussard on Aug 10, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The few times I have watched it, he has yet to say anything funny, and it seems he is an infomercial for the microsoft search engine thing (bling?).
But hey, silver lining – he’s not quite as bad as Chevy Chase was.
.
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Honestly, I miss Conan in the 12:35 slot :(
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I dunno, I like the Conan/Jimmy combo better than Leno/Conan. Leno became very lame and I switched over to Kimmel.
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 10, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
First fighter with two three knock down performances
Is it more impressive that he performed that feat in 9 minutes and 30 seconds of fight time (less than two total rounds) or that he did it against durable high level fighters like Franklin and Griffin?
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May have been posted already
but just damn.
by jrobb20 on Aug 10, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
..yeah…like it was scripted or something… :)
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate hate hate hate
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by Day Man on Aug 10, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I can't stop
watching these gifs!! Must… get… back… to… work…
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That's pretty terrifying
Matrix-style dodging in MMA.
man.
obviously he is incredible…
but griffin is swinging wide… you can see those shots coming.
anderson goes right up the middle, hard.
Watch how quickly he reacts between the left jab and the right hook. Only the followup left hook is really that sloppy, Silva is just reacting based on the initial shoulder movement. Forrest would only have a chance using feints and guessing where his head should be next.
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doing the research
so far all I’ve got is, “he’s really fast”
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by Kid Nate on Aug 10, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The judo chop should be on Anderson Silva’s time machine that he uses to pop seconds forward into the future and then go back and dodge shit.
Or if that judo chop is too hard, maybe one about the machine master race that has the human race enslaved in some sort of fancy virtual reality and Anderson figured out how to manipulate that virtual reality and dodge shit.
Either or.
by Patrick Tenney on Aug 10, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
also put something in there about how his head-movement can dodge bullets, which wouldn’t matter because they couldn’t penetrate his cut-proof skin anyway. The .gifs above tell all.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd concentrate primarily on his weaves...
To be perfectly honest, he was almost too quick on the weaving. It’s almost as if he studied that combination before the fight, and was weaving in and out of what he believed Griffin would do.
Also Nate… YOU MUST DO the Sotiropoulos guard passing clinic from hell. It’s simply incredible.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 10, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly those guard passes were really really basic maneuvers, but I mean basic in the way that they’re not complicated or advanced from a straight grappling perspective, being able to do that while a guy is trying to knock your block off is a different story.
The most amazing thing about his ground work were the submission feints and attempts, he was putting that shit together at incredible speed.
by Patrick Tenney on Aug 10, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
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Oi Oi Oi!
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by Well Read Idiot on Aug 11, 2009 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s easy: first the chip behind his left eye detects the shoulder movement of his opponent and creates an event in the system log. Then, the scheduler reads from the log, checks the status of the various servos in his arms and legs..
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I’ve read Dork Tower – similar? :-)
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Silva is pimp.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Aug 10, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Anderson Silva Does Whoever a Spider Wants
Fixed for the LADIES.
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Thank you, good sir
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by Blackout612 on Aug 10, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wow. This is awesome.
Good work BE. This is why I keep coming back for more. Reading the commentary on here…everyone salivting over his performance… wow. Most of it is even true, too. But wow. Silva by “silva-kenitic KO”. I’m still waiting on the post titled “Anderson Silva would easily KO Ali, Frasier, and Foreman all combined into one super-human monster”
The man has unbelievable striking. That is a fact. If there any possibility that one day he fights someone with a chin, they just run across the cage, football tackle him, ragdoll him on the ground for 25 minutes and pound his face? I know… even mentioning that is “idiotic”.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
Wasn’t that guy supposed to be Dan Henderson, who had previously never been knocked out, had the superior wrestling, and was an all-around savvy veteran?
yep, and consequently, he is the only person that has come even close to testing Silva.
Hendo took him down, controlled him, and worked him for most of the first round. Then Silva pulled a sweet submission in Rd. 2 b/c (in my opinion) Hendo got stupid (like he does from time to time) and abandoned his strategy by deciding to stand and bang with Silva. Then he got frusterated and got submitted. I think Silva-Hendo 2 is a great match, and I really don’t understand why everyone seems to be thumbing their noses at it.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess it’s because the “only person that has come even close to testing Silva” didn’t make it out of the second round of a 5-round fight.
So by that logic, the best possible matchup for Silva is Silva-Leites 2. I’m pretty sure nobody wants to see that.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, I’d make a case for Kalib Starnes as well.
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I think the logic
was that Leites had the ground skills to be a legit threat to Anderson; however, Leites lacked the skill to actually get Anderson into that position. Henderson had the skill to get the fight to that position, but perhaps lacked the skill to mount a serious threat.
Because the guy who was supposed to beat him got whipped. Soundly. In the second round. On the ground.
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Henderson lost, but to say he got “soundly whipped” is a bit overkill. Hendo easily won the first round. Then Silva pulled off a great submission. That is hardly “getting whipped”. He just lost.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you should watch the second round again. He got battered on the feet, chased into pulling guard (like Thales Leites), and submitted by a guy who wasn’t willing to go to the ground against Forrest Griffin. Heck, watch the first round again and see how little damage he did.
People keep saying, “the key is to take him down,” but the last two guys that tried that – a BJJ black belt and an Olympic wrestler – got submitted.
Look, every round starts on the feet, and every time that happens, Hendo is risking having his block knocked off. And even if he takes it to the ground, his GnP has been proven to be ineffective against Anderson. What’s his new strategy going to be?
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To clarify: I don’t think A.Silva is unstoppable. I just don’t see how a 39-year-old Henderson poses a threat to him after his last performance.
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He suddenly poses a threat because he KTFO’d Bisping. Tell me how anyone actually thinks that’s viable.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 10, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He suddenlyposes a threatbecame marketable to casual fans because he KTFO’d Bisping.
There’s your answer.
by madiq on Aug 10, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, for booking the fight, yes.
But as a reason that any of us should be fooled into thinking he has a chance?
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He doesn’t need a new strategy. Let’s go with your assumption that he didn’t do any damage when he had side-control on Silva for the entire first round- First, he covered Silva’s mouth most of the round. If you ever had that done to you…it sucks. Not breathing easily plus having a guy on top of you wears on you in a hurry. That might not be “damage”, but it counts for something. Second, if Dan had done that for even 2 more rounds, and not gotten KO’d or Submitted, he would have won the fight by decision.
His strategy is simple: 1. Don’t lose by KO or Sub. 2. Dance with the one that brought you (in his case, wrestling).
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
that being said....
I have this sneeking suspision that Dan is going to pull one of his old tricks- totally junk his wrestling and try to go toe-to-toe with Silva. Not a good idea.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
a) He always does. Could somebody explain that he’s not that great a boxer?
b) All that first round did was give frustrate Silva – did he look tired or injured going into the second round? He just looked mad when he stood up to me.
c) Not getting submitted is evidently harder than it sounds – and Dan hasn’t been out trying to build up his BJJ skills from what I can tell.
d) Dancing with the one that brought him would mean fighting more puffed up TUF fighters like Bisping. Maybe he should kick Forrest’s ass next instead.
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a) He always does. Could somebody explain to him that he’s not that great a boxer?
b) All that first round did was frustrate Silva – did he look tired or injured going into the second round to you? He just looked mad when he stood up to me. He takes harder hits to the face in training than Dan was giving him.
c) Not getting submitted is evidently harder than it sounds – and Dan hasn’t been out trying to build up his BJJ skills from what I can tell.
d) Dancing with the one that brought him would mean fighting more puffed up TUF fighters like Bisping. Maybe he should kick Forrest’s ass next instead.
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…if Dan had done that for even 2 more rounds, and not gotten KO’d or Submitted, he would have won the fight by decision.
Yeah, IF that. Simple, really.
And if he would have knocked Silva out, he also would have won. Or, if he had submitted Silva, he might have had a chance of winning as well. :-)
Hell, instead of tapping at the very end of the round when he could have just held on for 10 seconds and waited it out, he could have had a chance to win. But he quit.
Why am I supposed to want to see this fight again?
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hah
are you serious?? silva sunk that choke in with :18 secs left on the clock. thats friggin impossible for anyone to hold onto that long. a average human would tap within 2 seconds to a blood choke sunk in that deep
Agreed
Dan held on as long as he possibly could before tapping, he looked like his eyes were going to pop out of his head.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
A lot of folks would say that in a title fight, going night-night is better than tapping out in the second.
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And all this does is bolster my main point: Hendo doesn’t stand a chance against Silva, and beating that over-hyped TUF-winner doesn’t change anything.
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The problem was that Dan was the one that got worn down by that strategy. He was sucking wind coming out for the second round and I pointed that out to everybody that I was watching it with and called for the finish by Silva. The point that people miss is how Silva controlled Dan even though he was on top. He held him down close to his chest and didn’t allow him to get any power on his shots all the while conserving his energy. Can Dan beat Silva? Well, as far as I’m concerned he has the best shot out of the middleweights and I agree that he has the type of plan to beat him. I don’t think it happens though. And his strategy is take him down, lay on top of him, and hold him for 25 minutes because he will lose the fight standing by KO or by getting out pointed and can’t sub Silva if he’s on bottom and will just get pounded out or eventually subbed.
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by RealIrish on Aug 10, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that wasn’t just “pulling a great submission” or whatever – this was no surprise flying armbar shit. He pounded him on the feet until he gave that up and pulled guard, then pounded on him until he gave up the back, then choked him out. That’s whipped in my book.
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Yes, but...
IF he didn’t get that submission, and instead ran into Hendos fist, Silva would have lost. See how close the fight really was?
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
I really thought he was gonna just jump head first into the cage-posts until he was unconscious, but no such luck for Hendo. Maybe next time!
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