Anderson Silva has ended Forrest Griffin's career
by FlyByKnight on Aug 10, 2009 12:07 AM EDT
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In the long list of knockouts that have ended a fighter's career, one will stand out above the rest. That being the one that Anderson Silva delivered upon Forrest Griffin at UFC 101. Whether one wants to admit it or not, Forrest Griffin's career is pretty much dead as we know it. His days as that one guy who helped bring millions of fans into the UFC are over. His days as that one guy who had his career slaughtered at the hands of Anderson Silva has begun. There's no shame in losing to Anderson Silva. None whatsoever. But, this loss stands out above all others. In one of the most bizarre, embarrassing, and highlight reel knockouts ever completed, Anderson Silva ended Forrest Griffin's career in essentially the same jaw-dropping fashion that it began. And it, quite simply, is a shame. People who know me best know that I do not particularly care for Forrest Griffin but I always respected him as a fighter and as a person. It's just a shame to see a career end the way that his did.
Forrest Griffin was looking for a way out of that fight. He found it with a right hand at the end. Watching the fight again, you will notice that when Anderson lets him back up, Anderson puts his hand out to help him up and Forrest shakes it and then looks immediately like he wants to get out of there. There was a moment during the fight where Silva basically yelled out "come on" and slapped his hands against his chest as if to urge Forrest to fight him. At that moment, Forrest almost looked as if he replied to Silva with a verbal "I am". Griffin's definition of trying certainly did not meet the expectations of Silva. During the first minute, Griffin thought he had a chance and then the thunder came. That was beyond a destruction. That was a reckoning. Anderson Silva flat out told the world that this man was not worthy to stand in his presence. And how did he do it? By putting his hands down. He bobbed and weaved like he knew Forrest had no chance to hurt him. And Forrest really didn't. He was too slow, too weak, and too predictable to even faze Anderson Silva.
This is, quite emphatically, the end of Forrest Griffin's career. I'm sure he'll fight again. I'd bet my bottom dollar that he fights again. But he won't ever mean something again. He'll be that one guy who Anderson Silva not only destroyed in the cage but also on paper. Years down the road when people look back at a guy's career, they'll stumble upon Forrest Griffin and wonder what happened to him after he won the title. What happened? Anderson Silva happened. Sure, Rashad Evans beat him. But, Anderson Silva defeated him. Forrest Griffin is now a defeated man. It's as simple as that.
Forrest Griffin will go on to win a few fights here and there that people wouldn't expect him to win but he'll never be the fighter that he was before he walked into the cage last tonight. He's never going to evolve his skills enough to warrant another title shot unless fighters go by the wayside either by injury or by losses to other guys. He'll never beat guys like Rashad or Rampage, which was still controversial, because he lacks the raw power and chin to be effective enough against their strikes. He'll never beat a guy like Machida because he isn't quick or versatile enough, which is exactly what we saw last tonight against Anderson Silva. He'll never beat a guy like Shogun again because that was a fluke. The Forrest Griffin that we knew is gone.
I hope people really understand what happened in the cage last tonight. We saw one man totally dehumanize another man. The degree to which Anderson Silva embarrassed Forrest Griffin tonight is almost illegal. He took Forrest Griffin's manhood. After he was finished, Forrest Griffin got up and walked out the cage. He actually ran to the back area. He didn't shake hands, he didn't congratulate Silva, and he didn't stick around to be interviewed. He was embarrassed, dehumanized, and flat out tooled. Forrest Griffin knew what had just happened and could not face the reality of it.
Anderson Silva has ended Forrest Griffin's career.
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Well written piece but a bit over dramatic imo.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Rec'd
Anderson Silva has destroyed people.
Irwin got one punched out
Rich Franklin now serves as a wandering titleshot keeper though he is being paid well
Travis Lutter is gone (though that’s mainly his fault)
Marquardt at least stands a chance for a comeback and Hendo will get his shot again where he will most likely win a round or two but lose the fight.
Leben is a TUF brawler serving a steroid suspension
Cote and Leites were afraid to engage so we only remember their fights for being lackluster
Forrest was winning the fight against Rashad up till the 3rd round but Forrest would definitely be destroyed by Machida
Ugh this gif makes me sad everytime I see it =(
I don't think Forrest was jobbing, but......
…..it looks more and more like it every time I watch it. That is just awful. Forrest must have bet the House on Silva at -260.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet the house on you having a negative spin on another Anderson Silva win at -5000. I’m rich!
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Aug 10, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well done, but i disagree.
First, Forrest has shown the ability to bounce back from losses to lesser fighters than Silva.
Second, did anyone really think Forrest was a truly great fighter? Even when he wore the belt? I love Forrest, but he is a good fighter who has a great heart. If his skills were equal to his heart, he would be unstoppable. To accomplish what he has is truly a statement on how much drive and desire he has. Hard working, very likable, very tough.
third, this makes his spot exactly what it was before the fight. A guy who will win some fights and lose a few, maybe get another shot, maybe not and always be a fan favorite.
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by BJJDenver on Aug 10, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 11 recs
I agree with your points
however I feel that may be exactly why he will struggle in dealing with this loss. I think being embarassed the way he was to the point of having to quit will eat at him. It’s one thing to get ko’d, have a ref stoppage, or even tap from a sub, but to just have your will beaten out of you is a hard thing to take, even more so when you’re a guy who’s known for your heart and your toughness. It makes for a bitter, bitter pill.
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Yea but that night Matt Serra ended GSP’s career
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by Day Man on Aug 10, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
in a way you are right b/c now GSP is so afraid to stand and trade with anyone it’s a shame really
and GSP is sorely afraid of moving up a weighclass especially to fight Anderson
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Aug 10, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not a GSP fan at all but I don’t think hes afraid to stand and trade. Thats like saying that Anderson SIlva is afraid to go to the ground.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
well since the Serra fight GSP has been standing and trading a lot less (IMO)
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
thats because hes fought more stikers
GSPs biggest fights before Serra were against hughes, penn, sherk, trigg, etc.
then he kept it on the ground against hughes cus he knew his jits were way better andhe stood and traded with a great ground specialist in john fitch. he just didnt play in to alves’ strength by keepin it standing
how that makes you scared is beyond me. smart != scared
i used to be a straight up GSP hater, but the more i see him fight and see him talka and work the harder it is for me not to be a fan.
he was injured. injured bad.
I’ll agree with you there he has been trading less but like Troy said thats a product of his opponents as much as anything.
Even in the Pitbull fight where he was facing one of the most dangerous 170lb strikers in the world he did stand and trade for basically the first minute of each round.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
He had a great heart...
Then Anderson Silva ripped it from his chest and ate it.
by timetosaygoodbye on Aug 10, 2009 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Is there something wrong with a guy just fighting to fight and not trying to attain gold?
The belt is sweet and all, but i will still enjoy watching Forest fight for years no matter if hes shooting for the strap or not.
Most fighters come back better after a loss, and its not like Griffin was destroyed by Art Jimmerson it was Anderson no big shame there. Right now if someone asked me to bet on Anderson Silva vs an African lion i’m probably gonna take Anderson in the first by rear naked choke.
by T1B1ALH4MM3R on Aug 10, 2009 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
His Heart??
Did he have the heart to stand and congratulate the winner? He gets respect for showing up but now that there are reports that he did not suffer a broken jaw . . . makes the running look really bad.
by VeeisAnimated on Aug 10, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
The same things have been said about fighters before and they came back stronger than ever. BJ against Florian is a good example.
What happens after this loss is up to Forest, even if he needs to do some work with a sports psychologist to sort his head out.
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
This is, quite emphatically, the end of Forrest Griffin’s career. I’m sure he’ll fight again. I’d bet my bottom dollar that he fights again. But he won’t ever mean something again.
I’m old enough to remember Tito getting spanked by Randy, blasted by Chuck, and then fighting his way back to a title shot on what was until recently the best selling MMA PPV of all time.
I don’t disagree with some of the logic, but how do you count out a guy who has fought almost entirely on heart alone – and it won him a belt!
franklin is still a damn good fighter, and he was beat up worse than griffin- forrest will be back and tough as nails, it might take him awhile to get over, but once the emotions die down he will realize getting your ass kicked by anderson silva isn’t that big a deal- it happens to pretty much everyone. It’s not a knock on his “manhood” or whatever.
Over dramatic much?
Yes, it was an embarrassing beatdown but this isn’t going to ruin his career. I don’t expect him to ever get a title shot again but that is just because I never saw him as an elite fighter in the first place. He will go get a couple wins over sub-par competition and then he will back to being a good, not great, fighter in the LHW division just like before.
If I were him I would be much more embarrassed by the loss to Jardine than a loss to the greatest fighter in the UFC.
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The big problem here in this article is over-assuming that Griffin won’t be the same fighter that he was (in other words, won’t have that HEART that he’s known for). While that COULD happen, the opposite is equally true, or nothing could change at all. He’s still a fan favorite, so it’s not like he’ll be pushed down the cards. We honestly just have to wait and see what happens to him.
Realistically Forrest had no chance in this fight, He did it for the fans. He fought Silva because they needed a guy who wouldnt be scared to actually get in the ring and FIGHT Anderson. He did what the fans, Silva and the UFC wanted. Only problem is he stood no chance
People lose all the time and in more embarassing fashion. GSP, p4p one of the best in the world got beat by an overblown lightweight and UFC wash out(Serra). He not only lost but was KOed in a fight he was heavily favored to win with ease. Forrest was the underdog. People knew he was too slow for Silva but atleast with his heart and style he would atleast fight the guy and not run away like Leites did.
Forrest did what he was brought to do. It is in no way the end of his career. Sure it was a bit embarassing but it isn’t the worst thing to ever happen. It may be good for him. And as always, there is no shame in losing to the best in the world.
by Discman2 on Aug 10, 2009 3:07 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Forget this post.
Forrest may be devestated by the loss, but he’s certainly not gonna go pull a Rampage Jackson anytime soon. He knew the odds were stacked against him, so a loss isnt something that should completely blow his mind, knockout or not. He’s gonna bounce back, hopefully get some sorta rematch with Jardine, and keep his raw dog spirit alive. And oh yea, I realllly hope Anderson gets his block knocked off. Dan may need a baseball bat to do so, but it better happen… : )
"I will knock your hair black!"- Ken Shamrock to Tito Ortiz
He’ll never beat a guy like Shogun again because that was a fluke.
Your blatant bias is really showing with BS statements like that one. You could of been on to something here but instead you went into the ditch, it’s a real shame. Lets face it Anderson Silva has made a lot of fighters look really bad. Forrest will be back or he won’t, unless you got a crystal ball there is no telling how he will do in the future.
You can’t take the Shogun win away from Forrest and it’s sad that people still try, it wasn’t a fluke it was a win. Forrest Griffin choked Shogun, get the heck over it. If your going to try and make excuses for something like that then why am I to believe that you aren’t just making excuses now?
by who me on Aug 10, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If your going to try and make excuses for something like that then why am I to believe that you aren’t just making excuses now?
Sorry for actually seeing the truth behind the matter that Forrest beat an injured Shogun. Just like Mir beat an injured Nogueira. It’s calling a spade a spade.
HINT: When a fighter is too injured to fight
He doesn’t.
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by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 10, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
What about when a fighter is injured and it very much affects his abilities and he fights anyway? “Too injured to fight” is a very subjective standard which holds a much different meaning for certain guys.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
I'm just saying, what if Shogun or Nogueira won?
Would you say they were too injured for the win to count?
Absolutely not.
So they weren’t too injured for the lost to count.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 10, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You would say it was an amazing win given the circumstances. You don’t think it would be significantly more impressive for a fighter to win a fight while suffering from a serious injury?
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
Once again...
I would say they won fair and square, and yes, a bit more impressive due to the fact they had an injury that wasn’t serious enough to keep them out of competition. But by should that same injury (that again, is not serious enough to keep you out of competition) be used as an excuse for a loss. That’s a complete and total cop-out.
Perfect example, GSP hurt his groin against Alves in the third round and yet still managed to come out victorious (in dominating fashion). If Alves somehow managed to win that fight in the later rounds, people would say that it was solely because GSP was injured, when he was clearly capable if winning the fight with that injury.
Nothing should be taken away from a fighter who beats an “injured” fighter, because if he was truly injured, he wouldn’t be in the octagon in the first place.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 10, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But by no means*
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 10, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
On a completely seperate note...
Are you the same day man…that is the fighter of the night man, champion of the sun?
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by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 10, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 11, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
So you would say that it was amazing that Forrest won the Shogun fight even though he went into it with an injured shoulder?
Forrest has had a majorly damaged shoulder for quite a long while. The injuries to his shoulder even before his fight with Shogun were exhaustive. You have never heard of it because Forrest never mentions his injuries, whether he has won or lost, after his fights. This surgery was a long time in coming. Everyone felt it was in his best interest to have the surgery now before fighting another top tier fighter. He basically fought Shogun with one arm. Trust me, Forrest wanted to fight Silva in December but that was not to be.
http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Forrest-Griffin-Set-To-Undergo-Shoulder-Surgery.html
I don’t know how qualified Rory Singer is to give a medical opinion but if true than yes, yes I would.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
I’m giving my opinion based on knowing what its like to continue sporting competition on a blown out knee and not out of any affinity for Shogun or distaste for Forrest but I see how annoying it would be to have to defend the circumstances of every victory.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
Knowing that a fighter was injured and fought through it is one thing, discrediting another fighter’s win because the other guy had a injury something different. MMA fighters fight through injuries all the time, it’s not some kind of special situation it’s the norm for the sport. Calling Forrest win a fluke just because Shogun had a injured knee is insulting to both fighters.
If it was too bad for him to fight with but he fought anyway then that’s on his shoulders not Forrest, why should his win get tainted by something like this? Guys do compete with blown out knees in sports (depending on the severity), lets not act like he was out there limping around the cage or that it was even noticeable during the fight.
Of course fighting in need of major shoulder surgery isn’t the norm for the sport anyway but apparently Forrest fought several fights that way, fighting with a blown out back isn’t the norm for the sport either but Tito Ortiz did it for years. Do we even need to talk about Frank Shamrock’s knees? Gee when you really get down to it guys doing something that isn’t the norm seems a lot like it’s actually not all that uncommon in the sport.
I don’t know what to tell you because I don’t know the extent of their injuries. What I can tell you is that a torn ACL is one of the most serious and painful injuries that an athlete can ever face.
I do know many athletes who are in need of shoulder surgery that are able to play through the issue. Shoulder injuries vary greatly (which is why I’d like to hear about the severity of the injury rather then just say oh he had an injury too so its even). A torn ACL is a very specific and serious injury that athletes almost never play through.
I don’t know about Tito’s back (although I think that was a disc issue and nothing to do with a tendon or blowing his back out) or Frank’s knees but it seems like you are picking examples of guys with injuries that occurred over long periods of time and throwing them into the conversation.
Having injuries may be common. Having a massive injury that puts most athletes out of commission for a year just to get back on the field and another year before they are completely healed is not.
Whether or not you want to give someone more or less credit for an injury is your business but saying its insulting to a fighter to say a virtual certainty (that it is much less difficult to beat someone with a torn ACL than someone without one) is a little ridiculous.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
The story was that he entered the fight with ligament damage to his knee. We don’t know the extent of the damage to the knee when he went into the fight or if he actually did the serious damage to it during the fight, which is the whole point. The second time is when it was reported that he completely ruptured the ACL. You are assuming his condition by comparing it to a knee injury you suffered which leads you to your conclusion but that doesn’t mean that Shogun went into the fight with the same knee injury that you had.
I’m not trying to discredit Shogun in any way for going in there with a bad knee nor am I trying to say that it was even because both guys were injured I am just saying that enough is enough and people need to stop making excuses for Shogun just because of that knee injury because that is insulting to both fighters. Good grief it’s just that simple, people just need to get over it. Calling Griffin’s win a fluke just because Shogun had a injured knee is insulting to both fighters.
You do know that Forrest Griffin went into that fight with a injury too and that he also had to have surgery after it was over right(shoulder surgery)? The truth of the matter is that both guys went in injured but one guy won, that is the end of the story, you wouldn’t of said Shogun only beat Griffin because he had a shoulder injury. MMA fighters fight injured all the time it’s something that goes with the job. What you are doing isn’t calling a spade a spade it’s making excuses for a loss.
by who me on Aug 10, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who says? Is there some kind of official “which injury is worse going into a fight” ranking system or are you still just trying to suck the last bit of excuse out of Shogun’s knee?
The fighter you likes injury is always worse than the other guys.
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
by mythbuster on Aug 10, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Actually injuring your knee is far more damaging than injuring your shoulder. Any sane doctor will tell you that.
It depends on the severity and the nature of the exact injury. Unless you are going to get a licensed physician to compare Forrest x-rays and medical records with Shogun’s x-rays and medical records you are just talking out your ass on this one. Any doctor that says that a knee injury is far more damaging than a shoulder injury without knowing any of the details about either injury is a quack.
Actually, regarding the Shogun quote, Forrest will ALWAYS beat guys like Shogun that night. I am a Shogun fan, but he was not ready for Forrest, under trained and took Forrest lightly. Forrest is the guy that eats up fighters like that. If you come in ill prepared to fight him, you might as well plan on getting beat.
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Discrediting Forrest past
He beat Shogun. He beat Rampage. PERIOD.
Many fighters fought with injuries. They take their lumps, make excuses, don’t make excuses but they decide to step into the ring. Maybe in a rematch Shogun or Rampage may beat Forrest, fine, whatever . . . but on that night Forrest beat two of the best light heavyweight fighters in MMA.
Personally, I never ranked him really high BUT respect his past performances. Moving forward . . . no one will forget August 8 , 2009 and no one will forget Forrest’s immediate exit. What matters now is how he comes back.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 10, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m not trying to discredit Forrest, just the opposite. He came to fight, just like always, and he won those fights. Many fights are won outside of the cage, and especially in the Shogun fight, that was the cage. Forrest was better prepared, focused and trained and it paid off.
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Forrest STILL did more than you EVER will... EVER!
Fedor is now known as... Fraudor Emillyvanillyenko.
by Johnny Juice Box on Aug 10, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions
Wow.
You forgot the part where Anderson Silva showed the crowd the big “S” on his chest, and flew throught the arena, out the roof, and back the the planet krypton.
I appreciate your enthusiasm for your boy, though.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Aug 10, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions
I want a gif of that
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by lovingmma25 on Aug 10, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Silva > Fedro. That is all.
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by Day Man on Aug 10, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We get it. You hate Forrest.
Why is it such a problem for some people that a guy like Forrest Griffin can be succesful? True, he might not be the most skilled (naturally or technically) fighter in the world, but I find it really hard to comprehend what he has done to earn all this flak? He got a title shot, won the belt off a universally recognized world-class veteran fighter. Who cares if he does not have the polished technical skill some other fighters have? There’s no shame in getting that far on “heart”.
Griffin lost to Silva. Period. He’s in pretty good company there – the list includes names like Henderson, Franklin, Marquardt, Newton, Sakurai, just to name a few. He knew going in there that Anderson is a tough nut to crack.
If a single solid loss was enough to end a fighter’s career, there would be really, really few fighters in the world.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Aug 10, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Most biased and silly post ever?
Maybe not ever, but pretty close.
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
apologies
I should have been more specific.
- Embarrassing loss? err no.. he lost to Anderson Silva.
- Looking for a way out? If the reports are true that he broke/dislocated his jaw, couldn’t hear, etc. after the first shot, then let’s give him credit for sticking in there and taking some more shots as he did instead of insulting the guy.
- Anderson yelled “come on” because he is a counter striker, we saw that in his last two fights, and Forrest knew his role in that fight was to bring it. Despite the jaw problem, Forrest did bring it as best he could until he got dropped again by (yup) Anderson Silva.
- End of his career? Give it a rest… people lose. People lose badly. People bounce back.
- “He’ll never beat a guy like Machida” – wow, he must really suck then. * insert eyeroll *
- “Forrest Griffin knew what had just happened and could not face the reality of it. " – … more eye rolling.
Come on FlyByKnight, I expect more from you than this. This is on par with the famous Jake Shields post.
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Forrest did not suffer a broken jaw
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9333&zoneid=13
Reports surfaced on Sunday that Griffin had suffered a jaw injury and that was the reason for his hasty exit, but MMAWeekly.com was able to confirm with representatives from Zinkin Entertainment, Griffin’s management group, that he is physically fine following the Saturday night fight.
Griffin suffered no broken jaw and he is physically okay, said the Zinkin representative, but emotionally he is definitely not dealing well with the loss.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 10, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
If that's true
than it’s still only one point. Forrest has never given up and fights til the end. To think that he just quit is silly. I stand by my original feeling that something else is going on (and I don’t mean a dive…)
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This is a funny post for the most part but yeah Forrest will be back. I pretty much doubt he will ever be humiliated like this again, because I don’t see any other fighter with the ability to stand directly in front of him and finish him in this manner.
He will come back and fans will cheer for him. Maybe he may explain what that something else that’s going on.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 10, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
If by ‘ended his career’, you actually mean ‘had virtually no effect on his career’ I agree.
Forrest will continue to fight for the UFC, with no measurable cut in pay or popularity for years to come.
Granted, Forrest probably can’t use the line that no ones ever made him quit before…but he’s still a fun guy to watch and remains quite competitive at 205.
And as a side note, I loved the bobbing and weaving and am wondering if that was a special hommage for Roy Jones in attendance.
I agree
that Anderson was putting on an Ali-like boxing display for Mr. Jones Jr. He only threw two stikes that weren’t punches… a left leg kick (to the back of the knee) that followed a right hand when he caught Forrest’s leg, and a missed right knee when he was going for a Thai clinch during an exchange. Beyond that, he was basically boxing. People compare Silva to Jones, but he is more like Ali. Bad news for RJJ if and when they fight.
Incredibly disappointing fanpost.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Aug 10, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Forrest is a tough guy...
But Anderson proved he is even tougher. Anderson doesn’t get much credit in this regard, but he is one of the toughest fighters in MMA. He stood right in front of Forrest and dared him to hit him. When he did (there were one or two), Anderson was unfazed. The shots he took from Lutter when he was mounted are another great example. The fact is, Anderson has a granite chin, and likes to brawl. It isn’t obvious, because he doesn’t brawl like most do (stand and swing), but when he amps up the intensity, he is the most deadly brawler around, because his reflexes and reach allow him to stay in his pocket. This is why he was telling Forrest to “come on”… he wanted a challenge. Forrest threw his hands up twice as if to say, “I’m trying”. Anderson is on another level. Not just striking, but all around skill, toughness, and intensity.
Im tired of hearing
something must be up, that jab couldnt knock Forest out and crap like that. Its called a COUNTER, and a perfectly timed counter at that. Look at the gif above he hit Forrest right on the button as Forrest was moving forward and throwing a punch at the exact same time. Anyone who knows anthing about fighting could tell you that could knock out anyone. As for Griffin go back and watch some of his fights he has thrown that running 3 punch combo many times.
xbuckeyex05,
Damn did you scout Forrest for Anderson?!? He definitely throw those running punches.
Ditto on your entire comment.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 10, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
no I just remember in a couple of his fights saying how out of control he was with those combos.Hes very aggressive and I really like Forrest but he has been asking to be knocked out by a counter. Rampage is a good counter puncher but the leg kicks killed him. Its crazy how good The Spider is at blocking leg kicks, he caught Forrest and Irvins leg kicks like they were in slo-mo
by xbuckeyex05 on Aug 11, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
I dont think that he was putting his hands up to say stop, I think he was out of it and trying to defend himself thinking Silva was gonna continue.
by xbuckeyex05 on Aug 10, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
that is what I thought as well
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Aug 10, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't jab off the back foot.
Forrest telegraphed his punches in a strait line moving forward off of his back foot. He got popped on the button, end of story. Is being fast and smart really make him tough? When has Anderson ever been rocked? He said that he does not want to get hurt that’s why some of his fights have turned out to look boring. The smart money says Anderson Silva will be beat. My guess is someone will beat him badly. Two fighters have already fought him and seen what he has and a third is clearly a better jujitsu fighter if he can close the distance. we will see. If he doesn’t want to fight Machida why is he going to LHW???
by son of miss the mark on Aug 10, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
for a challenge, personally I’d love to see him fight more 205’ers – I like that he can go up and down when he wants
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Aug 10, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Great post
He got smoked, plain and simple. This could be the Couture to his Belfort.
I suppose if gold is not your only motivation.
at this point I have a hard time seeing anyone in that division really being able to match his speed and style. He is not a huge draw the pay per view numbers don’t show him as being able to carry a show. Also am I the only one who has zero interest in watching him box. to me boxing and MMA is like watching black and white TV compared to HD there is just so much more to it and soo many more levels. That being said Boxers are clearly the best two points of contact strikers, no MMA or kick boxers are even close. Anderson Knows that. I think that why he want the washed up version of RJJ and not the best in the division. Does anyone even know who the Cruiser weight champ is. Isn’t cruiser weight the same as LHW? Please correct me if I’m wrong.
by son of miss the mark on Aug 10, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
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