Fedor Emelianenko: "The UFC Tried to **** Me"

The concept of a linear title.

Also: I’m officially the queen of France.

that if you follow from the first UFC championship…Fedor is the champion. It has nothing to do with his willingness to fight, or how good he is..etc. I’m not defending it…simply explaining that it IS Fedor. If Fedor were to retire then you would start over with Lesnar

it’s completely useless. I’m not defending it. Simply saying what it is. It’s a really neat thing in a sport like boxing that has a deep, rich history. It’s much less interesting and relevant in a sport like MMA where promotions make certain things near impossible.

I don’t ever want to see my dad in a serious fight, his philosophy on fighting, “win or lose, make sure the other person and his friends never ever want to fight you again”.

Dude, think of the era when your dad got that award. Now think of the song, “Macho Man.” Now come to terms with your dad being one of the village people.

My dad was too, but he was the cop and he’d beat your dad’s construction worker ass.

Rickson has never been beaten, so he is the linear champion obv.

You know what’s funny? I’d get flamed for saying the exact same shit.

One thing: doesn’t this whole Barnett deal prove that the non-random testing UFC uses can easily be beating? In other words, the short cycle period of the drugs available can be used without fear of being caught as long as you know the test date?

Am I missing something? Does UFC use random testing?

Is somebody gonna do the math on this? :-)

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Of course, that’s why they congregate in internet havens like this one to have obscure debates and discussions that the masses don’t care about in the hopes that one or a few might be recognized as “authorities,” so that they may be able to influence the masses by virtue of that authority, plus a platform.

Furthermore, those existing “authorities” are critiqued and scrutinized by the informed literati, who are all-to-willing to cast out an authority for not staying up with the current facts and information. In that way, the “authorities” are kept honest, because by definition, the authority isn’t going to be challenged by those that they educate in any meaningful way.

So the one caveat about “effect on the market” is that it doesn’t take into account the ability of those that know more to influence those that don’t, by astounding them with superior knowledge, or mastery of what the masses want.

But generally, we are in agreement.

10 million is lowballing and worst possible outlook. It is worth just as little if not less than the 30 million dollar figure.

What I heard was that wasn’t guaranteed it was the top end money (which is what is usually announced as a contract’s value). Even if it was $10 million for 3 fights (easily do able in one year), then I can’t imagine his share of M-1 paying him anywhere near that. They have been getting Fedor a and Affliction to pay for everything, heck has M-1 even made money off any shows? This isn’t like he is investing all his money into a top org he’s propping up a upstart company just trying to break out on the international scene.

It’s also something that companies try VERY hard to police, because it genericizes their brand and destroys their trademarks.

Sean Sherk was coming off of a steroid-related suspension, after defending his UFC title against a guy that also tested positive for steroids. I don’t think he was Top 5 then.

My thinking is that the rationale for ranking BJ Penn over Florian—with three recent wins at LW versus Florian’s eight—is that BJ Penn beat Sherk, while Florian lost to him.

But Florian’s loss to Sherk was over two and half years ago. How long do we hold that against him? If you put a 2.5-year cutoff on fights relevant to rankings, then you have to look at BJ’s wins during that time (Pulver, Stevenson, and Sherk) vs. Florian’s (Mishima, Alvin Robinson, Din Thomas, Joe Lauzon, Roger Huerta, and Stevenson), in which case I think Florian’s record is more deserving of the #1 spot.

Now obviously the 2.5 year thing is arbitrary, but my point is that depending on how far back choose to go in determining rankings, Penn’s #1 ranking can be pretty easy to argue against, without even having to resort to the whole USA vs. Japan deal.

Yeah except for his loss to that undefeated guy.

But since I can’t read minds, I have to go by the established history behind those words, and presume intent based on the choice of those words. So while ONE word might mean just a lack of a thesaurus, a different STATEMENT usually means different intentions…again, not being a mind reader and all.