UFC 100 Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: The Punching Power of Brock Lesnar
I've been blogging away about the many cool submissions of Frank Mir's UFC career and I don't want to give the impression that I'm expecting big things from Frank Mir and overlooking his opponent: the dread Brock Lesnar.
Because of Lesnar's NCAA wrestling pedigree you'd probably expect a Judo Chop featuring him to focus on his takedowns or his top control. Nope.
It's his punching power, reach and technique that has really impressed me. When he landed the first punch against Heath Herring at UFC 87 and sent Herring hurtling across the Octagon ass-over-ears with a shattered orbital bone, the MMA world realized that Brock Lesnar had begun to channel his raw power into a very dangerous standing game.
Sadly, I couldn't find a still of Lesnar that shows that punch and had to settle for a lesser later punch that isn't as technically crisp.
Lesnar also used technically sound punching to beat Randy Couture at UFC 91. The really frightening thing about the shot he dropped Couture with is his sheer reach. Couture actually ducked to avoid the punch but Lesnar's arms are so freaking long that Couture actually ducked and came back up to get caught before Lesnar's punch was through unwinding. Its a testament to Lesnar's sheer athletic talent and his trainability that he has added some basic but very technically sound striking to his budding MMA game.
More geekery and animated gifs in the full entry.
Here's BloodyElbow's own Brent Brookhouse analyzing the orbital bone shattering right hand that Brock Lesnar landed on Heath Herring:
The first thing that jumps out to me is the simple technique. When you're Lesnar's size you don't need to throw big winging punches, you just need to throw with technique and land and damage will be done. He generates the bulk of his power from his legs, in MMA you can get away with lunging a little bit more than straight boxing. Brock pushes off his right leg and shoots the right straight from the shoulder to Heath's chin with no wasted arm motion.
Defensively he also keeps his shoulder high on the punching side which blocks any sort of counter left hook. His left hand goes a little low but his size and the angle of his body makes a return right from Herring a low percentage response.
Also he circles away from Herring's "power side" by circling away after he throws. And if you watch his feet during the entire gif he is up on the balls of his feet the entire time, he's much less of a "flat footed" striker than some try to portray him as. Honestly it's scary to see how far along his striking is coming because technique plus raw power is a crazy combination.
It's different from other wrestlers like Koscheck who strike but don't have the pop or abandon simple technique. With Brock it's turning into a "I don't want to stand with him, I'm probably not going to be able to take him down, and I sure as hell don't want to be under him....what the hell do I do now?"
The gif on the left shows two angles on Lesnar's punch that dropped Randy Couture. Even though it was a very effective punch, its not as technically sound as the punch that rolled Herring. For one thing, his jab continues to be weak. It just kind of floats out there and then immediately drops like a rock, leaving him exposed to a right counter.
And as Luke Thomas pointed out to me, his stance is very wide and it looks like he's creeping forward as he throws the straight, which means he's off balance. But, as Randy Couture has attested, when you're combining the kind of reach and power that Lesnar is, even a less than polished strike can be the finishing shot.
Frank Mir has trained with the tallest boxers he can find to prepare for Lesnar's reach. We'll see how much that helps him.
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as Brent said
His left hand goes a little low but his size and the angle of his body makes a return right from Herring a low percentage response.
And as I said:
For one thing, his jab continues to be weak. It just kind of floats out there and then immediately drops like a rock, leaving him exposed to a right counter.
Lesnar’s blessed with a freakishly long reach, he can get away with some slop.
Also, and unlike the dropping his hand bit I didn’t make this crystal clear, the point of the post is that Lesnar is throwing straight punches instead of wild looping hooks. He’s a very green MMA fighter at this point and with his physical gifts, mediocre technique makes him a very formidable opponent.
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by Kid Nate on Jul 9, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It’s okay to be a geek in this case, because this fight is interesting for a number of reasons. I suppose conventional wisdom would say that Lesnar is likely to grind Mir into little pieces via his massive mits. If you’re looking for the upset (I haven’t ruled this out), Mir might catch Lesnar again with his BJJ wizardry.
With those likely scenarios in mind, I wouldn’t be surprised if it went down a totally different way if that makes any sense at all.
By viscious ground and pound. HAMMER FISTS HAMMER FISTS HAMMER FISTS.
Otherwise, he wins a decision after 5 rounds of dominant top control. :-)
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It's possibility
Kimuras from the top position are very wrestler friendly moves. I’ve seen many big men with mediocre bjj tap higher level player’s with kimuras .
Were I training Lesnar, it would be ‘takedown, pass to side, kimura’ all day long.
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 10, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, where would you find the time with all the injections you’d have to prep. :-)
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i know what you mean
like when everyone said “theres no way this ones going the distance” about lidell vs wandy, then it of course did go the distance? a couple times ive been really suprised at the gameplans people come out with and the outcomes as well.
Lesnar by KTFOing Mir clean out of the cage. Suppose he’ll land somewhere around rows three and five.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jul 10, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually consider Mir to be a favorite here. I think if Brock wins it will be an upset. Mir has more experience, more ground game, and more tools to finish Lesnar.
Lesnar has the raw power in both striking and take downs. The biggest question for me is can Mir avoid Brocks power long enough to implement his game plan and finish him.
This fight won go 5. We will see a win inside of 3 rounds. Mirs sub game is too good and Brocks power is too big for this to go 5.
I have it as a TKO in 2 for Brock or an armbar in the 3rd for Frank.
The problem with getting Lesnar in an armbar is that he is totally capable of curling his arm, picking you up while you’re trying to break it, and slamming you on the canvas knocking you unconscious.
by goodbones on Jul 9, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You ever seen what happens when people do that? There was a great one on Iron Ring (I know, right?) where, as usual, the guy doing the slamming ended up with a broken arm.
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His technique is horrible for punching, boxing wise at least. But it’s his sheer power, like said, that makes up for everything.
He’s also dropping his hand before he punches each time. He doesn’t drop it as much in the Couture fight, but you can still see it. He throws a fake left jab and follows it up.
Heath Herring seems like he didn’t even expect that long of a reach and to get rocked.
this isn't a boxing match
so many adjustments must be made and some things that are bad fundamentals in boxing are solid technique in MMA.
But that being said, Lesnar has decent punching technique at best. But there’s a big difference between Lesnar’s punching and say Josh Koscheck or Rashad Evans who are prone to combining dozens of technical lapses into a single exchange.
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of course his boxing isnt that great.. he isnt trying to box. he is using his size, strength and reach to knock people out. when you are that huge, strong and quick you dont need to be technical. he will become more sound as time goes by, but i dont see him going away from what hes shown so far.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 9, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 9, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Brent's comment is apt
Defensively he also keeps his shoulder high on the punching side which blocks any sort of counter left hook. His left hand goes a little low but his size and the angle of his body makes a return right from Herring a low percentage response.
Look at how far out of Herring’s range he is.
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But,
Who punches harder and has more technique: Lesnar or Carwin? To be honest, it doesn’t matter one bit if Mir loses this match-up. I don’t think he will, but if Carwin is next in line soon, his potential to knock Lesnar or Mir out is tripled by the time he get’s his shot. That dude has the same freak-punching ability that Chris Leben possesses, only better. I don’t see his chin as suspect and I realllly think if he becomes more well-rounded, it’s gonna be the Carwin-era!!!
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Double-standards?
Funny how Lesnar is lauded for throwing that punch, preceded by pawing the air with his other hand. It’s the exact same thing that set people off on Rashad’s stand-up in the Machida fight.
I know his size and reach make this mistake more excusable but still, nothing to write home about IMO.
by greco-roman airlines on Jul 10, 2009 5:14 AM EDT reply actions
For me,
the difference is that Rashad has had more than what 20 prof fights & Lesnar 2 at that time. Not really a double standard my man, just normal observations.
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I think you’re forgetting his years in WWE. How many fights is that?!
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Nice writeup Nate,
the scary thing is that was very early in his career & he is only going to be better with all of the work he appears to be putting in.
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