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Next MMA Fighter To Die?

In the past couple of weeks, the ancient prophecy is slowly becoming true.  Celebrities have been dying left and right.  Ed McMahon, Farrah Fawcett, Michael Jackson, Billy Mays, and now even Steve McNair have all died very recently.  Sadly, I think that it's only a matter of time before an Mixed Martial Artist will suffer the same destiny that these other big names in entertainment and sports have.  

Naturally, I think us MMA fans should do what we all have done best over the years - speculate and bet on the next fighter to die, and how they will suffer their untimely demise.  Will it be Tito Ortiz after he received an unnoticed infection of Hepatitis B from his girlfriend, Jenna Jameson?  Or will Yoshihiro Akiyama suffocate in an orgy, being crushed under the weight of 30 Japanese models? Or perhaps will Ken Shamrock die of old age?  We can only find out in time, and hopefully mmalogic comes in here and shows me how to pull a profit 85% of the time.

 

(PS If you didn't notice, this is a joke post and is meant only for fun. Hopefully I didn't offend anyone 
EDIT:  Oh dear, it appears that I have offended many.  I'm sorry that I did offend you if I did, and apparantly we have a difference in humor.  Again, sorry)

Poll
Who will be the next to die?
Tito Ortiz (Hep B)
40 votes
Sexiyama (Orgy Suffication)
24 votes
Ken Shamrock (Old age)
38 votes
Other (Please list)
8 votes

110 votes | Poll has closed

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air mcnair dying sucks

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Jul 4, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes it does

But I think Helio Gracie was the start of this, so we’ve got some time.

by subo on Jul 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It really does. He started his career here in Houston with the Oilers and even though they left for Tennessee and became the Titans I followed him through out his career.

RIP McNair

Fans: FEDOR! FEDOR! FEDOR!

Goldie: The crowd seems to be chanting "Kongo" here, Joe.

by xFenixKnightx on Jul 5, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1) You forgot Karl Malden in your death list – great, great actor.

2) Put a poll up with Ken, Tito, Sexyama, etc. My vote goes to Tim Sylvia via shame.

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by themachiavellian on Jul 4, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good idea, added a poll. It all fits pretty nicely next to the picture too!

by tmatte on Jul 4, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

Best fan post in a long time.

I see Bob Reilly going next.

by Ahhhoki on Jul 4, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I go from being “a fucking idiot” to having the best fan post in a long time. Just goes to show ya the differing opinions around here.

by tmatte on Jul 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s what makes the site great.

I do, however, hope that nobody related to MMA dies anytime soon. This wouldn’t look so good in retrospect.

by subo on Jul 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that wouldn’t be good at all. Not for the sport and not good for me as a BE member :p.

by tmatte on Jul 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hope

no one dies soon. anywhere. in the world. at all.

except my neighbor, nusaltan tulyakbay

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Jul 5, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is pain in my assholes

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin

by ufc4 on Jul 5, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fanpost is in poor taste, but its funny.

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jul 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Drew Fickett the guy is self destructing right now and unless he gets help asap his story isn’t going to end well.

by Raker on Jul 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I happen to like this post…but with that being said i hope nobody dies in the near future.

by bigislandboi808 on Jul 4, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I killed the last guy who said that.

If you see Mark Coleman in person, drop $5 on the floor and watch the fun as he tries in vain to bend down and pick it up.

by Ozzz on Jul 5, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes it is.

We can’t say anything intelligent about death (everything regarding its effects is pure speculation), so the only rational response is to treat it irrationally, i.e. laugh at it. My ideal funeral would be a giant funeral pyre as a BBQ. How better to be remembered than toasting your descendants’ marshmallows and hot dogs! Even as a corpse, you would be useful!

Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Jul 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Coleman.

He’s still trying to catch his breath from the Rua fight.

If you see Mark Coleman in person, drop $5 on the floor and watch the fun as he tries in vain to bend down and pick it up.

by Ozzz on Jul 5, 2009 1:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

so the posts that were against this write up get deleted?

by banter on Jul 5, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they got deleted for the fact that they were insulting the writer. That being said they should have taken the entire post down IMO.

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin

by ufc4 on Jul 5, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guys shouldve been more disciplined and composed as to saying their comments..

Like this:

Just as the guy a few comments above said, I think this post was in poor taste and it should be a reason to make a de-rec button.

Joking about people who recently died and making a poll on who you think should die next is just plain wrong.. I know it’s a joke, but it’s a pretty bad one at that..

This guy bitches about the crap he recieves in mmamania, but you cant blame people for reacting like that even in BE because of posts like this..

There. I believe I phrased that properly and it shouldn’t get deleted.. Now instead of flaming on him, we can be more civilized and just point out that even if you post this on sherdog, the ug, mmamania, and even BE, you’re gonna get crap thrown at you cause it is tasteless and unclassy.

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 5, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ken.

Who I had in mind coming in here, so I’m sticking to it.
I don’t root for it to happen, but that’s my pick.

by Seandq on Jul 5, 2009 9:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kalib Starnes has to stop running sometime right? So when he stops, he’s the next to go.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Jul 5, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Jul 5, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This post is garbage. WTF is wrong with you?!!

Fans: FEDOR! FEDOR! FEDOR!

Goldie: The crowd seems to be chanting "Kongo" here, Joe.

by xFenixKnightx on Jul 5, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

people protested it heavily last night

but someone deleted those comments

by banter on Jul 5, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some people are just plain stupid. I’m really surprised at BE here for leaving it.

Fans: FEDOR! FEDOR! FEDOR!

Goldie: The crowd seems to be chanting "Kongo" here, Joe.

by xFenixKnightx on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It really isn’t that surprising. They allow jokes about Tito & Jenna all the time. They allow Sexyama jokes all the time. They allow Ken-is-Washed-Up jokes all the time. Why not allow all three in a post at once? So it’s about death – so what? We’re all going to die – why not laugh at it? If you can’t laugh at one of the most defining aspects of your life, why laugh at anything?

I don’t want anyone in MMA to tragically die – Tanner was depressing, Eilers was bizarre. Helio didn’t phase me because he lived a healthy, natural life. I had a beer for him.

Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Jul 5, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When your mom or son or whoever very close to you dies… lets see if you like someone making fun of it.

This is very disrespectful, bottom line.

In the end what is the actual point of the post. Is it funny? No. Does it offer something insightful? No. What’s the point, what’s the purpose?

Fans: FEDOR! FEDOR! FEDOR!

Goldie: The crowd seems to be chanting "Kongo" here, Joe.

by xFenixKnightx on Jul 5, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could we get a staff member to clarify why this post was allowed to stay up? People get banned all the time for things much less egregious than this.

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin

by ufc4 on Jul 5, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not offended at all by this. I also didn’t laugh because this is hardly funny and I’m not one who gets offended about jokes of the recently deceased.

That being said I think this fanpost is stupid because it contributes nothing and really isnt that creative.

by Brian Bobby on Jul 5, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meh

I hope people dont think Im such a stuck up douche that they cant joke about my own demise one day.

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Jul 5, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just make sure you die hilariously.

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jul 5, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amazingly well put. and while I was initially indifferent, this has changed my opinion. I agree, for the above reasons, this should be deleted. And I am even disappointed in myself for posting the picture.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Jul 5, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The "check marked" [sic] people were human beings and don’t deserve to be the butt of a joke.

You’ve never made fun of another person? Or have you said things like Everytime I hear Sylvia’s name, read a story about him, or see a picture of what he has become…. all I hear is toilets flushing now. Notice, too, how the editors have largely ignored the thread, not posting in it and removing only the idiot comments. They know better than to get involved in the muck. Let the community say what it wants – the best will rise to the top. Without rec’s, this post will quickly be buried and closed to comments.

If you’re not going to visit any more, sorry to see you go. I liked your postings, even if I didn’t always agree. If you ever find a better website than BE, let me know, because I’ll want to read their opinions, too.

Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Jul 5, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He said that people shouldn’t use others as the butt of jokes; I pointed out the hypocrisy of that statement. Also, no one ever said that Tito or Ken should die tragically – I want it to happen to them after a long, fulfilling life & as calmly as possible, the way I want most everyone in the world to die (life is traumatic enough, let us leave it in peace). The distinction you’re pointing out is outside the scope of the discourse.

Besides, people do make jokes about the recently deceased. Paramedics frequently develop gallows humor as a defensive mechanism. US citizens constantly joked about capturing or executing Saddam, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, et al. The Darwin Awards are extremely successful books. I fail to see how it’s inherently a moral failing.

Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Jul 6, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

US citizens constantly joked about capturing or executing Saddam, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, et al.

I think there is a HUGE difference there. In case you weren’t aware Saddam Hussein was responsible for the killing of millions of innocent people, as far as I know the only thing Tito Ortiz is guilty of is bad grammar.

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin

by ufc4 on Jul 6, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point is that people are saying, “Don’t make fun of the dead”, yet there exists acceptable targets for it. If the maxim is true, then we shouldn’t make fun of Hitler, Saddam, Mussolini, most Roman emperors, etc, but who will make the argument that the man/idea “Adolf Hitler” is too sacred to mock? The existence of one counterexample renders that statement (Don’t make fun of the dead) obsolete.

Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Jul 6, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose if we couldn’t laugh at things that don’t make sense, we couldn’t react to a lot in life.

-Hobbes, Calvin and Hobbes

Nell: Nothing is funnier than unhappiness…Yes, yes, it’s the most comical thing in the world. And we laugh, we laugh, with a will, in the beginning. But it’s always the same thing. Yes, it’s like the funny story we have heard too often, we still find it funny, but we don’t laugh any more.

-Samuel Becket, Endgame

Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Jul 6, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree with most of what you said..

but don’t leave this site dude.. not cause of this one dumb post..

and it’s not the editors’ fault cause the guy technically is still following the rules of BE and SBN by not (blatantly) bashing the fighters.. its a very bad joke with poor taste and they might not like it also, but it is within the rules so i guess that’s why BE staff won’t take it down..

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 6, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I rec'd Gunslinger20 on 99 percent of his points but ...

I agree with the sentiment of the first paragraph, and as soon as I heard the news of Lavar Johnson, I immediately thought of this thread and was gonna bring it up, so kudos to you for saving me the trouble.

That said, we need to be a little more understanding of the BE Editors and Admins. They are very busy people. It’s Fourth of July weekend. For all we know, they may have never seen this post. Or, maybe they believe so highly in free speech they want to see people hash it out in the comments. I don’t know. But I treat Fanposts with the disclaimer you always hear at the beginning of director’s commentaries “the views expressed don’t necessarily represent Bloody Elbow or any of its staff.”

A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who

by thetakeover on Jul 6, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For all we know, they may have never seen this post.

That’s not true, there were earlier comments deleted so we know at least one person on the staff read the post.

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin

by ufc4 on Jul 6, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know I said I wouldn't post anymore...

but after reading some of the comments that were made after mine, I am honestly bored and I ended up coming back here as a force of habit.

Takeover, I wouldn’t have gone off on the BE staff if other comments made were not deleted. At least one, if not all, have seen this article so something along these lines should be taken off. Is there anything vulgar in it? No. The fact of the matter is that someone is making a heartless and tasteless joke out of the early demise of human beings that left long before their time. Stuff like this doesn’t say much about the intelligence of the material that is put on this site. This takes away from Kid Nate’s Judo Chop, Weo’s Twitter Tweet’s, the anti Zuffa goodness that MMASupremecy puts on display, and all be the contributions made can sometimes be rather condencending…mmalogics posts. Smart, entertaining, and useful info is overshadowed by this kind of stupid garbage. Dana White, Scott Coker, and Tom Atencio, among others… they do look at this site and it has to be embarassing that this crap is on here. You’d expect to see something this bad on the UG or Sherdog. Luke, Brett, Nate, Eugene, Mr. Rome, Mr. Nelson, and Richard do great work… it gets overshadowed by stupid and inconsiderate crap like this. Why this sort of thing may not be their opinion, it is on their site and they should care what material is being put on their site… this sort of thing crosses a line of human descency.

Machavillean, you’re right… I have made blatant and hurtful remarks about Tim Sylvia. I think the man has reached “sideshow” status in MMA. I laughed my ass off when Ray Mercer knocked him out. I however never wished death upon him. Just because the guy has lost quite a few steps, I don’t want him to die in any manner… I don’t wish that upon anyone. You made a valid point with the Saddam Hussein remarks, I’m sure a lot of people did wish death upon him and he got it so they were happy. I would be lying if I said I wasn’t relieved that sick man was hung… but my reasoning behind that is that he slaughtered millions of people that didn’t deserve it. I feel “making predictions” of someones inevident death is in extreme poor taste and just flat out sick… whether it is in a joking fashion or not.

For the people that do find this stuff entertaining and funny, that is your perogative…. I however don’t, thats the point I am making. I think at this point, our thoughts and, if you are a religous person, prayers should be with the families that lost these loved ones and definitely should be with Lavar Johnson. The man is an incredible talent and I hope he is able to pull through.

I’m getting off my soapbox now, most of y’all are really good people w/ good hearts and good heads on your shoulders. I’m sure there is going to be amazing work that will come out on this site and eventually the higher ups w/ the MMA orgs will see it and recognize it in a positive manner. Just probably not this article.

"I am going to give him a lesson in good behavior. First, I wanted to knock him out in the first round. But now I want to make it a long process and I want to enjoy it, and then I will knock him out in the 12th round."
Wladimir Klitschko

by Gunslinger20 on Jul 6, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you missed cannon, and mispelled brent..

but other wise i sort-off agree.. but not entirely.. maybe.. haha.

It’s a stupid post and deserves all the negative stuff people have thrown at it, but im not entirely sure/decided on my opinion if it should or should not be taken down..

people have freedom of speech and as long as it is within the rules it’s okay… But there’s also all those stuff you mentioned.. so i really dont know what weighs more.. all i know is that for me the post isn’t even remotely funny.

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 6, 2009 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and mike fagan...

oh wait.. i just noticed.. where did cannon go? i was wondering why he doesn’t post anymore and now i just saw that he isn’t he listed as staff anymore..

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 6, 2009 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weird

He is still commenting. Maybe they’re finally making room for me :-p

by subo on Jul 6, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll agree that I find deadpools rather tasteless, wherein people bet on celebrities to die within the year. Joking about death is one thing, but profiting is another, especially when the celebs are as young as Amy Winehouse or Lindsey Lohan who’ve just wasted their lives. I joke pro bono.

If you don’t like this sort of humor, no biggie. It’s your life to laugh at what you like. Just please let us enjoy our off-kilter humor without the soapbox. A few lines on why it’s wrong, or an email to the editors would suffice, or ignore it altogether. I don’t find child porn funny, so I avoid 4chan. I enjoyed your last rational response – please don’t leave BE over something this trivial!

Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Jul 6, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have nothing to add to this conversation.

by mythbuster on Jul 6, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yet instead of silence, you add something. How ironic!

by GeeDub on Jul 6, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sexyama

I wish I could take my vote back cause now that I thought about it, cause he would make Death reconsider what he’s doing.

by Krimson on Jul 6, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow at a lot of the responses to this, it is just a joke. It is not even a joke focused as much on death as on aspects of people’s lives that are funny. As for me, my reaction to death is to remember the person while they were alive, and for a lot of people, there are many humorous things to laugh at.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jul 6, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gallows humor is pretty much the only thing that’s kept me going through various deaths of friends and family. I can’t imagine taking everything as seriously as some of the people around here.

by FRANKIE on Jul 7, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you guys aren’t going to delete this post at least close the comments section. Enough is enough.

Fans: FEDOR! FEDOR! FEDOR!

Goldie: The crowd seems to be chanting "Kongo" here, Joe.

by xFenixKnightx on Jul 6, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

While I find this article tasteless, I am hoping this is a new direction that the mods are taking, to be less… how should I put it… trigger happy with their mod buttons.

by mythbuster on Jul 6, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just wait it out.

It’s quickly falling off the front page of recent fanposts, and if people stop commenting on it, then won’t be at the top of active fanposts, either. What’s great about what the mods are doing is assuming the community is smart enough to handle it’s own problems, and this topic has been dealt with largely responsibly, hiding only the outright flaming. The easiest way to contend with unpopular speech is to ignore it – complaining about it will only make it angry.

NB: Latest famous death is Robert S. McNamara.

Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Jul 6, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barnett

Via assassination

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Jul 24, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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