Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort at 195 pounds for UFC 103
by Nick Thomas on Jul 31, 2009 11:58 PM EDT
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Main Bouts:
- Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort
- Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic -115 vs. Junior Dos Santos -115
- Mike Swick -185 vs. Martin Kampmann +155
- Josh Koscheck -500 vs. Frank Trigg +300
- Efrain Escudero -165 vs. Cole Miller +135
Preliminary Bouts:
- Tyson Griffin -240 vs. Hermes Franca +185
- Sean Sherk -500 vs. Gleison Tibau +300
- Paul Daley vs. Brian Foster
- Dan Lauzon vs. Rafaello Oliveira
- Drew McFedries vs. Tomasz Drwal
- Rafael dos Anjos vs. Rob Emerson
- Jason Brilz vs. Eliot Marshall
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He’s getting a whole division in a little while.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Aug 1, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Rich doesn’t need a home until/if? they create 195.
He’s had his time at the top on a shitty contract, he just needs to fight some entertaining fights and make a ton of money. I have no problem with people who have had their chance at the top and are no longer ranked number 1 bouncing around and fighting superfights at whatever weight they please.
So……why don’t we just KEEP the 195 lb. division? I believe this is a weight class mmalogic has said the UFC will be adding in the future, why not now? Rich, Wandy, Chuck Liddell maybe, Rashad Evans could probably make the cut, there is plenty of talent to fill the division, especially with the UFC adding more fighters by the day.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
I’m slowly getting behind this. 205 is just too fucking stacked right now.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 1, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
195 and 205 are too close—10 lbs. is what most people do in a weight cut. You wanna create a whole division of people that are dodging Anderson at 185 and Machida at 205? I would much rather see a superheavyweight division added, because I think the difference between Brock and the other 250+ pounders vs. HW’s is a much more profound hurdle that the false weight class of 195, which is a way to protect stars with drawing power who are on their way into retirement (and I will enjoy watching every fight and continue to support them—I just ain’t making a fake belt for them).
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
by thetakeover on Aug 1, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I agreed that 195 and 205 is way too close. It would be much better if they keep the 15 lbs spread, like a 200 lbs Super Middleweight and a 215 lbs Light Heavyweight (that way more “lighter” heavyweights can cut down to it). Then again, I like the way things are now, so why fix what isn’t broken.
by m-e-s-s-i-a-h on Aug 1, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the way every class is, except I would like a cruiserweight division in between the LHW and HW classes. I understand right now the only monster is Brock, and maybe Carwin….but just wait 10 years. Guys who were decent college football players and such are going to start coming in to MMA at a much more rapid pace. And there’s already lots of kids in my town whose only sport is MMA. Brock is just the first of many.
BOOSH
Rich sounds a little annoyed, I feel bad for the guy, he’s trying to make his run at 205 and it keeps stalling out…
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
Rich should get over it
Love the guy, and he was awesome when I met him and interviewed him, but there’s no way he has a serious run at Machida and the 205 division. The 195 lbs. catchweight is a gift to him on the order of EliteXC’s Gina Carono Weight Class,.
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
Fair enough.
Vitor’s looked great at 185, but Rich is stuck at 205, so it’s a good compromise. Hopefully this counts towards each guy climbing their divisions’ ladders. I’m just happy because I got tickets!!!
Can we also use Vitor as an excuse to discuss his amazingly hot wife?
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Aug 1, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions
Sean Sherk on the undercard? That sucks, I would much rather see him fight then Cole Miller vs Escudero.
I must disagree
I don’t want to watch Sherk swing his dwarf arms around for 3 rounds trying to Box. It’s like watching a T-Rex trying to pick up marbles off the ground. It just doesn’t work.
"He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They've been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes." - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Damon O. on Aug 1, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I could easily bite you, but instead I’ll use my jab.
by DirtyML on Aug 1, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Exactly lol
Rec’d for awesome follow-up
"He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They've been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes." - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
Fantastic
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 1, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t want to watch Sherk swing his dwarf arms around for 3 rounds trying to Box. It’s like watching a T-Rex trying to pick up marbles off the ground. It just doesn’t work.
Rec’d for poetry. Best description of Sherk’s bad gameplan yet.
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
Okay now that’s a great card. Went from mediocre to sweet.
-Trigg and Vitor return,
-Crocop fight & Dos Santos
-Semtex
Lucky Dallas. NJ is never that lucky (/looking at u crappy Bisping/Rashad)
Hells Yes!!! I hope to see more of this.
"He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They've been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes." - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
Cro Cop is in trouble – that said, I think that stoppage was BS. Let the man pull guard.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Aug 1, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Trigg question
Anybody think he has a decent shot against Koscheck? At +300 I have to admit I’m tempted …
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
griffin
Griffin vs Franca on Undercard really sucks, they should do six fights on the main card!
Rich is the definition of a company man.
He is willing to do basically anything for them and I really hope they show similar respect to him in the future if he establishes himself at 205, even if he does lose to Vitor.
Yes, Rich is a company man, but UFC has also stuck by him, made him a face, and is adjusting weight classes to give him good fights. This is way better for him that a rematch with Hendo.
BTW, I really don’t think Rich is pissed about this. I’d guess (based on nothing) that he probably likes this fight better than Hendo. The tweet is not in any way negative—just an explainer on why the fight is at 195, which makes utter sense, considering Vitor is at 185 and Rich is at 205.
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
He wanted a rematch with Hendo.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Rich ain’t losing to Vitor, personally i’d rather see him fight Hendo and avenge his bs loss again but whatever catchweight makes since considering the both really fight in 2 different divisions.
Why is a good fight like Griffin/Franca getting wasted on the undercard for Escudero/Miller which should probably be on UFN 19
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That is a stacked prelim card. Makes the idea of having a live weekly show and scrapping prelims altogether and using those fights that would have went unaired to fill the free weekly cards. Would def help establish up and comers and make uknown beasts like Tibau,Daley, and D Lauzon future draws. It would however kill vault profits and I dont know if i could live without paying for fights that usually crash and not get a refund!
6 Live fights on this card?
I could have swore I heard that somewhere.
Likely Griffin-Franca would be the 6th
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