that even Jerry Millen is a human being, so no cheap insults please.

No one in their right fucking mind would cut a deal like that. You would go 50/50 if both businesses were equal, but whats the biggest fight M-1 ever put on? King Mo versus Don Fucking Frye? AAAAAAAAAAAAH! Seriously, I could scream at how IDIOTIC these fuckers are.

Lets say, all bullshit aside, Fedor 100% wanted all this co-promotion for the good of the sport. Does he really think that M-1 deserves a 50% cut of the profit with whoever they copromote? That is just….it’s just…retarded. It is elementary business and they are FAILING at it. Don’t cave to these fuckers Strikeforce…

IF UFC went 50/50 with these guys all we would get for advertising is stupid youtube commercials cause thats all M1 can afford. Get a clue

…..you ….. …. …. stealing … …. Fedor …. …. … …. … ….. ….. ….money … …. …. … … … …. …. UFC … …. and …. … M1 …. …. …. ….. …. go …. yourself … ….!

This man is completely delusional. He is so delusional it borders insanity. Someone please put this poor bastard out of his misery.

This guy is the equivalent of testicular cancer to the sport.

here’s one…

Yeah, yeah. You sit down with the hard numbers. What’s the fight purses? What’s the venue? What’s the advertising budget? Travel, food, throw it all in a pot, split it down the middle, and at the end of the event if the ink is black and there’s a profit, split the profit, and if the ink is red, then just split the loss.

We co-promoted with (Affliction) to an extent. We’re looking for a true co-promotion."

So since Affliction’s ink would surely become red they didn’t take it.. Just the huge pay days and they were happy..

The UFC’s ink would SURE AS HELL be black even without fedor, so NOW they want it shared 50-50 plus the biggest pay day any promotion can offer…

i wana see M1 Global collapse.
So honestly I don’t want fedor to sign with the ufc anytime soon

I had a dream they collapsed and i wake up to all this nonsense…

It really sounds like Jerry went into these talks with the frame of mind that the UFC was going to give them a hard time. Basically Jerry went in there with M-1 assuming UFC was already going to be hostile. When from it sounds like from both camps that talks were professional. Really though it just sounds like Jerry is flaming shit that didn’t need to be crap that didnt need to be said. This is just adding to the fact that he knows diddly piss about how MMA works or how to run one.

I can see how they might think that getting yet another promotion up and running would be a good thing for the sport. I can see how they would think that establishing MMA in Russia would be good for the sport. What I don’t get is why they think they can attach themselves to another organization to make that happen. They have Fedor, yes we know that, does that make it worth it to another promotion to split profits (and costs) down the middle? No of course it doesn’t. And why on earth would the UFC want to sit down with M-1 and decide with them how things are going to be for an event? Why would they want half UFC guys fighting and half Red Devil guys fighting? None of that makes any sense to me. If they want to start a promotion go out and do it the old fashioned way. If you want to be a parasitic leech keep on doing what you are doing. In the long run co-promoting with M-1 will just be a detriment.

Fedor is M-1’s cash cow, and the company only really exists in the state that it is in because Fedor is associated with them. Without him, they are essentially an international version of the IFL, just with less quality fights.

Since Fedor is their reason for existence, they want no part of him being in the UFC, hence the ever changing demands for co-promotions, and what that term actually means. They know that the second that they sign with the UFC, Fedor’s career can no longer be molded by their hands.

He has not faced a truly top level opponent since he fought Cro Cop, as was pointed out in a previous Fanpost on the site. While the fights with Sylvia and Arlovski were “Big Name” fights, neither guy really posed much of a threat to Fedor, who obviously has the skills to compete with anyone in the sport, and beat 99.9% of them.

But in the UFC he is faced with Brock Lesner who, while young in the sport, is a definite thread. The power, speed and likely 50lb weight advantage would be major things for Fedor to deal with. He would be favoured to win by most, but this is easily the most dangerous fight available to him. Add in possible challenges from Shane Carwin (unlikely to win, but with the size and power to upset) and Randy Couture (who has been game planning Fedor for YEARS), and you have a very uncertain series of fights for the Russian.

And that doesn’t even begin to take into the two other major reasons why the UFC is not the most appealing place for Fedor to fight. First, it would be his first time in a cage, and as we have seen, many former elite PRIDE competitors have had issues making the transition. Secondly, the easily cut forehead of Fedor would be open to ground elbow for the first time, as I believe Kid Nate pointed out in a main page article. That opens up another way for Fedor to lose.

Fedor is as good – or at least nearly as good – as most of us believe, but he is not unbeatable. And while a loss in MMA rarely spells the doom of a fighter – just look at Couture’s record – Fedor has a mystique about him that is likely to be shattered the first time the referee pulls an opponent off of him.

Outside the UFC, that moment is highly unlikely to happen. Inside the Octagon though, it is much more probable, and that is likely why Finklestein and the rest of the M-1 crew want nothing to do with the UFC.

What baffles me is that Fedor and his management don’t realize that the offered contract and resulting sponsorships plastered on Fedor would have given M1 Global more of a worldwide push than anyone they try to co-promote with.

They must realize this, so why didn’t they sign?

Yeah, yeah. You sit down with the hard numbers. What’s the fight purses? What’s the venue? What’s the advertising budget? Travel, food, throw it all in a pot, split it down the middle, and at the end of the event if the ink is black and there’s a profit, split the profit, and if the ink is red, then just split the loss.

This is the saddest, most hilarious comment I’ve ever read.

Fedor has a vested interest in M-1 as an owner. Co-promotion happens all the time in boxing. Golden Boy had to Co-promote with Top Rank to have Manny fight Oscar, otherwise we never would have seen that. Same with Manny and Cotto coming up.

People need to get over this notion that the UFC is a league. Its a promotion and until they put everyone else out of business, they wont have all the best fighters in the world.

Strikeforce would be suicidally stupid to agree to co-promote with M-1.

Please change the picture of the article. Millen will drive away traffic.

Does anyone else get the feeling that this ENTIRE thing is one big publicity stunt, and that Fedor never intended/intends to sign w/ the UFC?

“Even though (UFC CEO) Lorenzo Fertitta and Dana White did not meet with Fedor in person on Tuesday, they were represented over the phone,” Finkelchtein stated. "Outside of representatives of the UFC and M-1, no other company was represented during our negotiations. Since we did not go to the media with details of the meeting and only responded to the erroneous reports, we are unsure how these reports started.

“It’s unfortunate because these type of tactics will not help ensure that M-1’s talks with the UFC are fruitful. M-1 Global is still interested in continuing to negotiate with the UFC and while we are fielding offers from other major promotions, nothing has been decided. It is our hope that the UFC will remain in active dialogue with us as we try to find ways for us to work together. All we are asking is that there is give-and-take in the negotiations and that they are not one-sided.”

Just saw this quote on MMA Junkie.

HE is talking about “give and take” and not being one sided?! Holy fuck!! :-O

CHEAP HEAT
Heels draw “cheap heat” by blatantly insulting the fans, a local sports team, or the town they are performing in. This is called “cheap” because it is an easy way for heels to receive boos. Faces will sometimes do the equivalent, referred to as a Cheap Pop, by referring to the town or promising to “win one for the fans”.

Heel wrestlers can also draw cheap heat by referring to a mainstream news event as part of their promo, especially if the event has strongly emotional or political ramifications (e.g., a natural disaster), although they sometimes do not mention it by name. During the Gulf War (and Operation: Desert Shield immediately before it), Sgt. Slaughter often drew cheap heat as part of his Iraqi sympathizer heel gimmick. At Survivor Series 1990, Slaughter thoroughly insulted servicemen stationed in Iraq for Thanksgiving.

Historically, another common practice of heel wrestlers to draw cheap heat involves using racial and ethnic slurs to offend the collective sensibility of wrestling fans. In 1972, as the American Indian Movement was gaining momentum, Baron Von Raschke was known to refer to Native American WWA World Heavyweight Champion Billy Red Cloud as a “dirty low down Injun” as a means of drawing cheap heat. 1 In 2004, while in Germany, JBL (John Bradshaw Layfield) used Nazi salutes and was booed heavily by the crowd. By many people’s standards, this type of “cheap heat” went too far, leading to “legit heat” (see below) since even to this day making Nazi jokes in Germany is considered taboo (references to the Nazi party are legal if used in an entertainment context, but still illegal when used in a political context).

At this point, I want Fedor to pack it in and head to Japan. Fight Barnett in DREAM, then proceed with the inevitable parade of freaks, has-been’s and journeymen. M-1 is mind-fucking Coker like they did every other promotion they’ve left penny-less and humiliated in their wake. I don’t want to see Strikeforce drop a grenade at their feet over this one fighter and his logic-defying band of miscreants.

I’ll gladly support Fedor for free on HDNet for the rest of his now-nearly-meaningless existence. I would applaud the UFC to rescind their offer at this point, as I’m honestly afraid that this pestilence could even bring Zuffa’s ivory towers to the ground.

I don’t understand the photo in this article at all…

I am 12 and what is this?

I contacted them to make sure that Millen was speaking for the company. Then I quit thinking about it. If that is their position, it’s a deal that’s never going to happen.