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Is $30 Million over 6 Fights Impossible to Reach?

One of the big topics of discussion today regarding Fedor Emelianenko's decline of the UFC's contract offer has been the terms of the agreement. According to the Carmichael Dave show, the UFC's offer was a $30 million/6 fight deal that included an immediate title shot, PPV revenue earnings, ability to wear and display M-1 Global logos, and an exemption to compete in Combat Sambo tournaments.

Jonathan Snowden's story proclaimed that these numbers were, in fact, misleading. The $30 million wasn't exactly a guarantee as the numbers were based on a projection of PPV numbers. Since Fedor isn't an unbelievable draw in the United States, we could come to the conclusion that these dollars would be much less that $5 million per fight.

There is something we're forgetting that was brought up to me via an email from Jeremy Lynch that I received involving the discussion as to whether $30 million was actually obtainable by Fedor Emelianenko. It turns out that the number isn't impossible to obtain, and it really isn't as insane as we are making it out to be.

The gist of what was said in our email conversation stems from the Randy Couture vs. UFC dispute involving Randy publicly disclosing his contract and receipts. Randy Couture vs. Tim Sylvia actually pulled 49,000 more PPV buys than the Randy Couture vs. Gabriel Gonzaga contest for obvious reasons, but when looking over the actual receipts and files that Couture provided during the dispute -- we can obtain some numbers that give us an idea of how much Couture made. The discussion that stems from this conversation is that we have to remember that UFC PPV revenue scale is actually tiered in regards to buyrates.

If we look back at documents from the Couture-UFC dispute, a tier structure for PPV was provided. It stated that 100,000 - 175,000 buys paid out $1 per buy to the fighter, 175,000 - 300,00 buys paid out $1.50, 300,000 - 330,000 paid out $2, and 330,000 to an undisclosed amount paid out $3. Interestingly enough, only 330,000 buys is the cutoff. There very well could have changed since that time.

But let's take a look at his payouts as a topic for discussion. It was disclosed by the UFC in response to Couture's dispute that he made $936,000 at 534,000 PPV buys in the match-up against Tim Sylvia. As I understand it, the payouts are calculated in each tier. So, Couture made (75,000 * $1) + (125,000 * $1.50) + (60,000 * $2) + (204,000 * $3) = ~$934,500 which is comparable to the $936,000 reported income. If you calculate the Gonzaga numbers, it's almost dead on the $787,000 reported income.

These numbers aren't even comparable to what a UFC 100 income would be, and we aren't even sure if the dollar rate per buy increases in tier-form if a fighter surpassed a million buys. For all we know, there may be a mark in which someone could receive $4 or $5 per buy. But for sake of the argument, let's keep a $3 buy here. For a million buys, a fighter with a tiered contract similar to Couture's contract would make roughly $2.32 million dollars. To the 300k mark, a fighter makes $322,500 + ((1,000,000 buys - 330,000 buys) * $3 a buy). If we stick with the $3 amount, 1.5 million buys easily clears $3.83 million dollars. This is JUST PPV revenue without the paid out guaranteed money or bonuses from knockout of the night or KO/Submission of the night. Not to mention, sponsorship money that Fedor gains. Of course, sponsorship money doesn't really factor into the original claim that $30 million is very difficult to obtain.

Is $30 million over 6 fights impossible to reach? It isn't, and it's reachable with huge successful wins by Fedor over UFC talent. If Lesnar vs. Fedor almost hit 1.8 - 2.0 million buys, he'd already be ahead of the $5 million a fight, but that's unlikely. I could definitely see a 1.5 million buys, and the same goes for a Couture match-up. If Fedor defeated both men spectacularly, you can bet his next few performances in the cage would at least be in the 800,000 - 1,000,000 range depending on who else was on the card. He might not actually make $30 million, but he'd get damn close that amount of money. It really depends on what his to-show and to-win bonuses would be. I'd be in the arena of $800k to $1m range personally, and he'd easily make a run at the $5 million a fight with that kind of guaranteed dough. It surely isn't the most impossible plateau to achieve.

Of course, this is some hypothetical analysis as we know Fedor is likely not going to sign with the UFC. It's something to think about if he somehow does make the move to the Octagon though.

UPDATE: Snowden is now reporting some different terms previously unknown. PPV revenue only came into play with extremely good buyrates, and his contract was for only 3 fights, not 6. With this information, it'd be tough to make the $30 million mark obviously, and the extremely good buyrates make me feel like this was a bad deal for Fedor over what the reported Strikeforce offer is looking like.

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But Snowden also said the guaranteed purse was “under 2 million.” If Fedor’s UFC downside was 1.5 million, that would be tied for the biggest contracted purse in the history of North America MMA.

Regarding three fights vs. six fights: My guess is three fights are guaranteed with a pos of six fights.

by Lynchman on Jul 30, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. If it is under that, anything over a million added onto those PPV figures, he’d clear $5 million a fight in both the Couture and Lesnar PPV’s in my opinion. Hell, what if he gets KO of the night or something as well… and furthermore, what if the PPV dollar amounts increase after a million buys or something. He’d clear it easily.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and endorsements.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 30, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thing is that endorsements don’t really come into play with those figures though.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 30, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re just gravy on top – gravy he can’t make anywhere else.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 30, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

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by Leland Roling on Jul 30, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

I’ve always thought that endorsements were degrading. Not sure how Fedor feels about that.

by yarky1 on Jul 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? Why? Every fighter on the planet has them.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not every fighter

And even if it was every fighter, so what? I still think it’s degrading.

by yarky1 on Jul 31, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

And standing on a scale in your underwear is?

Punching people in the face for money?

It’s part of the game, they can’t say that complain that hte UFC doesn’t give them enough money/respect/whatever if htey don’t explore all available options for making money.

by Phildo on Jul 31, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snowden doesn’t cite any sources either for this update. If he got them from M-1, it could be them doing damage control after the 24 hours of backlash.

Really, there’s no way to know.

by Meester on Jul 30, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

So far Chuck had the biggest base salary in UFC history, which is 500 k. I don’t know what “less than 2 mln” exactly means, but I guess it could be between twice and four times as much as Chuck.

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by Venom77 on Jul 30, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW, I’m loving the Twitter feed of your site. The news on prospects from over there is outstanding.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 30, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the heads up.

I just started following Venom because of this.

by Lynchman on Jul 30, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s pretty sweet. Definitely a good source of European prospects.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 30, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The UFC would make Fedor into a draw. The Brock fight would sell two million, and if Fedor won, he’d keep every one of those fans.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 30, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Then he may actually hit way over $5 million in the first fight alone.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 30, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, win lose or draw, it would be highly likely that he and Brock would fight at least twice.

by Jahbulon on Jul 30, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was the 6-fight offer counting the extra 3 fights under the champion’s clause?

by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think it was.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 30, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing that I think a lot of people are also forgetting here is the irreplaceable marketing push he will get from just being involved with the UFC. If they are looking to push M-1 Global into a legitimate organization, they aren’t going to be able to do it without the push of the biggest mainstream organization, the UFC.

The marketing and advertising dollars the UFC would use on Fedor would be way more beneficial than some sort of co-promotion deal with M-1. So, speculating that Fedor can walk away from the champion’s clause, or at least be free from a deal after his contracted fights, he can then move on to M-1 and take a lot of fans with him.

Even fighters that don’t have the credentials to hang in the UFC gain a marked improvement in notoriety for just fighting with the UFC. Scott Smith, Robbie Lawler, Nick Diaz, etc. While these guys produce exciting fights as well, they benefit greatly from being former UFC fighters.

So, I think turning down a deal with the UFC, who could possibly be on ABC in a few months, and that goes to extreme lengths to promote their fighters, is ridiculous. If the basis of your company is to use Fedor to gain notoriety, why not put him in the biggest organization with the most mainstream appeal? Wipe out the division and move on. What better notoriety and fame could he get than that? A crummy corner ad with M-1 Global on it? Please…

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by Joe Schmitt on Jul 30, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Forget Diaz and Lawler, look at how much Sean Salmon has benefited from getting choked out in under a minute by Alan Belcher and getting his head kicked off by Rashad. Is there any place besides the UFC (and the U.S. Senate) where you can benefit so much from failing so spectacularly?

by Jahbulon on Jul 30, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

sammy morgan made the most for what little he did in the ufc imo. and for being a formet tuf contestant never hurts

by bdw on Jul 30, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly…and those guys are bottom of the barrel in the UFC. Imagine the advertising and marketing Fedor would get. If guys like Sean Salmon, Sammy Morgan, etc. gain popularity from being in the UFC, imagine the push Fedor gets.

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by Joe Schmitt on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with your points completely Joe. Well said.

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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 31, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m new to this site (not to mma or blogs … or mma blogs) and I don’t want to sound like a noob or anything but this is one of the most intelligent discussions I’ve ever come across online. I usually post over at the Fanhouse MMA site but there isn’t 1/10th of the critical analysis I’ve seen in this single thread.

Bravo to everyone. This seems like a great community.

by Johnnynumber5 on Jul 30, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

By far the best...

I was a MMAJunkie convert…I don’t ever really go anywhere else anymore. Welcome!

by B Money on Jul 30, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

welcome to the crew,johnnynumber5, i saw u over at the eamma site the other day

bloody elbow is one site that increases everybody’s knowledge about mma and i think the most intelligent conversations take place not just at bloodyelbow but at almost every site in SB Nation

by justizzer on Jul 31, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

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