Vadim Finkelchtein and Fedor Emelianenko Say "Nyet" to UFC Deal
by Eugene Schelfaut on Jul 30, 2009 8:59 AM EDT
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Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times passes along the latest in negotiations:
Another intense contract negotiation between Ultimate Fighting Championship and Russian heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko, considered the world's best mixed martial arts fighter, reached a quiet end Wednesday.
Emelianenko told reporters Wednesday in Orange, "The offer which was made by UFC is not interesting to us."
UFC President Dana White and company owner Lorenzo Fertitta were unavailable for comment.
On Tuesday, negotiations briefly inspired speculation (even within UFC) that a deal with Fedor would be announced Friday.
"Nyet," said Vadim Finkelchtein, president of Emelianenko's promotion company, M-1 Global. [...]"They took a timeout and we took a timeout," Finkelchtein said. "We will work only on co-promotion conditions."
On the 28th Pugmire's source predicted a different outcome:
A long-awaited agreement between the Ultimate Fighting Championship and the man considered the world's best mixed martial arts fighter, Fedor Emelianenko, is expected to be announced by UFC President Dana White on Friday, a source with information about the negotiations told The Times today.
Photo via www.m-1global.com
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It seems that it's over finally
The multiples sources who said that a UFC deal was being finalized and who “guaranteed” that Fedor next fight would be in the UFC were completely wrong.
I don’t think we can trust them anymore. Because it seems that they were all dead wrong and completely off on that story.
I guess Fedor will now fight in Japan or Strikeforce.
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 8:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“They took a timeout and we took a timeout,” “We will work only on co-promotion conditions.”
Sounds like the championship rounds are yet to come.
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by Benicio on Jul 30, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the terms of the proposed deal are as they have been reported, then you can only come to one conclusion. Fedor and/or his management are ducking Brock Lesnar.
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by ronniebonnie on Jul 30, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FEAR THE VANILLA GORILLA!
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 30, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The abominable showman
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 30, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You should comment more.
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by subo on Jul 30, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
M-1 Hates Money
The offer which was made by UFC is not interesting to us.
- The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract. That’s 5 mil a fight
- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor’s purse.
- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.
Well, I guess the only thing to do now is to wait for M-1 to shrivel up and die, just like every other promotion with which Vadim Finkelchtein has worked.
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by Brett Jones on Jul 30, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or, no one knows jack! And we’ll just have to wait and see. Believe nothing!
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm done with Fedor and personnally glad (in a way) that the UFC deal didn't happen.
I kind of wish that they didn’t bend on their contract for him simply because I hope this won’t lead to alot of other fighters getting demanding.
Alot of people want to harp on UFC compensation to its fighters, but the fact is that no other organization pays better and can continue to put on fights.
by Razreshat on Jul 30, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a deal definitely broken All the multiples secrets sources were far off and it seems that never a deal would be reached.
Fedor in Strikeforce seems to be much closer than Fedor with the UFC…. At least, that was "cordial" this time….
by JackO
by Nick Thomas on Jul 30, 2009 8:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do you quote me from another comment to another article Nick?
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If everything I’ve heard about this deal is true and he is turning down more money than I can make in my lifetime because of ‘details’ and ‘co promotion’……
He can fuck off, “i’m so poor and from oskal i cant do anything wah wah” please.
You either accept this money and become a legend in MMA or you reject it, but either way it only affects Fedor.
And Fedor obviously does not want to be the best MMArtist, he wants to be the BEST PAID MMA artist.
by DirtyML on Jul 30, 2009 8:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hyperbole much?
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
by Benicio on Jul 30, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Official Fedor nuthugger jumping off bandwagon
Fedor is the greatest heavyweight I have ever seen, hands down. I have enjoyed his triumphs so much, I will show his fights to my kids and talk about the greatest that ever was.
But I am officially done caring about him. As far as I am concerned his career ended when he said no to the UFC. He is 33 and on the downside of his career. Now was the time to try the UFC. He choose the easy way out. I do not have time for men who choose the easy way out in life. He will go on to beat more tomato cans and pump up his record, but his meaningful fights are long gone.
Although I have to admit, if he fights barnett in Japan on New Years Eve, I would probably tune in. Been wanting to watch that fight for 4 years.
by Nick Travaglini on Jul 30, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
if barnett beats him i’ll lmao, but i’m not putting down a dime or wasting my efforts 2 pirate that match
by justizzer on Jul 30, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor wants to keep he legacy intact. He (his handlers) are afraid of the competition in the UFC, and realize that Carwin, Velazquez, Couture, and ESPECIALLY Lesnar, would smack him silly. It does not really matter to the casual fan if he signs or not. No one who isn’t an 24/7 mma fanatic knows who he is. And let’s face it, with all his ducking and dodging of top competition, even his devoted nuthuggers are probably starting to doubt him as well. Whether he signs or not, the show will go on…
by Cmad77 on Jul 30, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think its more about Finkie finding a way to get a 70% cut through “Co-Promotion” then ducking.
by SES 84 on Jul 30, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a bit simplistic … Fedor didn’t join the UFC even before Lesnar and Carwin came there… I think this is more about pride than anything else , M-1 and Fedor aren’t willing to recognize their irrelevancy and “yield” to the UFC .
by JoelMan on Jul 30, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
good point, they prolly truly believe that fedor is still bigger than the ufc and that they can use the ufc as a stepping stone 2 get M1 in 2 the bigtime
by justizzer on Jul 30, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm officially off the Fedor bandwagon.
by Patrick79x on Jul 30, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You're not the only one.
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by subo on Jul 30, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor affraid? The most ridiculous thing that I have ever heard
Fedor is afraid to be paid 5 millions to face fighters when he took a lot of more risks in Pride for less?
The idea of Fedor being afraid of something , let alone others fighters , is retarded. The guy said multiples times that he did not care about legacy and the things like that.
One time , his brother Aleks was threatened by a guy who had a gun pointed on him, Fedor just walked and said with calm to the other to move away. (history told by Aleks)
The idea of Fedor being scared by the UFC for something that he does not even care is laughable.
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So your point is....
he isn’t afraid he is just ignorant
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 30, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's not afraid
he’s just a total tool.
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by TheViking83 on Jul 30, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe he’s afraid of something else: like a genetic screen that would show that he’s half-man, half-bear.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 30, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
half pig
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 30, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 30, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
what the hell are you doing with a pic. of Rosey O’Donald??
by mma is #1 on Jul 30, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor getting pathetic
If the contract points floating around the net are true, either Fedor is afraid of getting his legacy trashed by Brock or Fedor is brainwashed by the Russians. Hell, this is pretty much everything Fedor wanted, turning it down looks bad no matter how they try to spin it.
The fedor bandwagon is about to start hemorrhaging people
by Paradoxx on Jul 30, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fine
We will just see who are the true Fedor fans and who were only spotlight parasits and bandnwagonner.
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaah, no.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 30, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really, we will see who gets sick of childish bargaining positions and who does not, at the expense of the memory of one of the best MMA fighters in existence.
by DirtyML on Jul 30, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What “true” Fedor fan wants to see him duck a very lucrative deal with damn never everything he’s wanted and fight the other top HWs in the world? He’s letting all his “true” fans down by letting his management play him like a chump.
by Paradoxx on Jul 30, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a fan of the sport. Not just any one fighter. I would’ve liked to see Fedor in the UFC, but if all these reports are true, then screw’im. You guys remember what happened when Michael Jordan decided to build a whole new pro basketball league around himself? Oh yeah, Michael Jordan wasn’t an egomaniacal nutjob, and that didn’t happen.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d rather be w/e a parasits is than a blind devotionalist(nuthgger)
i can make my own opinion,i do not owe my alliegance 2 fedor b/c he has never done anything personal 4 me n you prolly have never even met that man
if fedor is a tool then i cant respect him as a man and if fedor doesnt want fight top competition anymore then i cant respect him as a competitior
by justizzer on Jul 30, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nyet these nuts, you bastards!!!!
Sorry, got a little childish there. =/
Man, I really hope this is all BS and they really have reached a deal that they will be announcing manana. Wishfull thinking…
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by xFenixKnightx on Jul 30, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for nyet these nuts. I loled
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by J. B. Maddox on Jul 30, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont get my wrong
I would like to see Fedor signing this huge offer who give him what he wants it seems.
But, I will not stop to root for him if he choose another path for his career, where he will still look for the best fights available outside the UFC.
He manages his career as he wants. Stopping to root for him because he does not sign with your favorite org is childish.
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not signing with the UFC because your joke of a promotion M1 wants to mooch off of what the UFC built is childish. What has m1 done to deserve there name next to the UFC?
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Business and childish
Turning an offer to get more = business , eventough I don’t agree with that move
Stopping to support a fighter because he does not sign in your favorite organization = childish.
Fedor stays Fedor, I am always fan of that incredible fighter and looking for his fights. That’s a true fan.
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
enjoy Fedor vs. Hong Man Choi and Jose Conseco in a ladder match for the WAMMA HW Belt then
I’ll be paying attention to the fighters who care about their fans, and truly want to fight top competition.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
by Loot on Jul 30, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sylvia , Arlovski, Barnett....
Yes, he was clearly wanting to avoid all the best fighters!!!
There are still good fighters outside the UFC, don’t forget.
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So his next opponent would be….
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 30, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
two years ago, the UFC didn't have a strong HW division
the same cannot be said today. Name one organization outside the UFC where the HW division is deep? Fedor does not want to fight the best anymore, plain and simple!
by orcus on Jul 30, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll stop rooting for him cause he’s refused to fight anyone worth watching him fight…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve never hid my distaste for Fedor. He is a class a ducker. It’s sad to see his career end with him being a punchline, but he has done nothing short of ask for it.
M-1 is going to die out like WAMMA and Affliction and he will just hang his head in shame, I can’t see him having any future recourse with the UFC simply because I think Dana is going to wash his hands of this entire situation. Plus when all is said and done, wouldn’t one think that Fedor has too much pride to even show up for negotiations in the future?
by Screwface on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Vadim says:
“If we had such an offer two years ago which we got yesterday, maybe we would be (interested), but not in today’s situation — we cannot accept that offer,”
- courtesy of WKR
What the F has M1 done in two years?!? … oh, that right; they bankrupted Affliction.
by Pooman on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Finklestein
Is the problem. I’m beginning to really have to question what Fedor sees in this guy to keep him employed. Turing down the $30 million dollar deal is insane.
How is Strikeforce even going to be able to afford to pay Fedor ONE million dollars? Does that mean Showtime won’t show the fights anymore? I’d guess this would need to be a pay per view type of event?
Well, at least we will get to see Fedor/Overeem, Fedor/Rogers and after that Fedor/Bigfoot Silva. By then they will be bankrupt and begging the UFC to sign him.
I predict Fedor losses one of those fights mentioned above, too.
(I like the big punchers chance…)
by ThomasJ on Jul 30, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good riddance Fredo, I hope he signs with Strikeforce and Seth Petruzelli isn’t busy…
by Screwface on Jul 30, 2009 9:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Ouch! I think Seth is still functioning as the filthy one’s dog…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that not one of the most disturbing things you’ve ever seen?
by Screwface on Jul 30, 2009 9:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yes! Amusing, but also a pretty disgusting lack of self respect on his part. You knocked out Kimbo Slice Seth! It must be the pink hair. On off days he begs Johnny Rotten and Henry Rollins to spit on him…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henry Rollins is one of my personal heroes, I think it’s more like Johnny Rotten and whichever Ramone is still alive.
by Screwface on Jul 30, 2009 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Henry tells numerous stories in spoken word about screaming at punkers to show some self-respect. How about Pat Smear?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s actually mellowed out since the early FF days, he was just on their last tour with them and it seemed as though there was a lot less heroin in his system.
by Screwface on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Theres a Ramone atoll
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops ^^^^^
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That’s in the Tom Verlaine Island chain, right?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theres a Ramone still alive?
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
It’s always been hard to tell if they’re alive or not! Okay, that was cold, and I actually love the Ramones.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there might be one or two left, none of the “talented” ones though. I put talented in quotations because none of them were ever really talented.
by Screwface on Jul 30, 2009 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Ramone the original drummer/ Manager is still kickin’.
YAMATO DAMASHII
by R.T. on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If StrikeForce was unwilling to throw their business model out the window for Tito Ortiz or Kimbo Slice, they are not going to do it for Fedor.
Also, Fedor and Vadim are not Americans! You can’t interpret their behavior during these negotiations the same way you would if you or I did they same things.
http://www.executiveplanet.com/index.php?title=Russia:Let%27sMake_a_Deal!-Part_3:
It’s essential that your side display a "united front" when negotiating with the Russians. A good way to start is by ensuring that all members of your team understand and agree on precisely what they want to achieve from the deal. Then, put all of these points in writing and bring this document to the meeting.
Generally speaking, Russians view compromise as a sign of weakness. Often, they will prolong negotiations by refusing to back down until the other side agrees to make sufficient concessions or shows exceptional firmness. Moreover, the Russians will expect loss of temper, walkouts, threats to end the deal, and similar incidents to occur.
Delay tactics, emotional outbursts, threats, and other pressures are to be expected, but must be resisted. Instead, do everything you can to insist that negotiations emphasize mutual benefits and needs.
Russian negotiators will often make minor concessions and ask for major ones in return.
Praising and rewarding anyone in public is viewed only with suspicion.
It will take a long time for decisions to be made in this country.
Once a contract is singed, don’t be surprised if terms in the contract are not met. It is quite common for Russians to attempt to make modifications.
by Jahbulon on Jul 30, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
… so basically, don’t do business with Russians?
by Pooman on Jul 30, 2009 9:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I bought a car
From a bunch of crooked Russians. It’s a good vehicle but I recall it being an ultra shady, shady business transaction. It’s just the way they do things. I’m happy with my investment though I wouldn’t want to go through that again.
by ThomasJ on Jul 30, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything in there about maintaining a delusional sense of your own importance?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dammit! I can’t rec from my phone. Comment of the week so far.
by Screwface on Jul 30, 2009 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Much obliged anyway! This whole week has been freakin’ nuts. I’m going camping in northern Michigan this weekend thank God! I need to step away from the computer.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is part owner of M-1. He may be more intrested in advancing the company. I highly doubt he fears any of the UFC heavyweights
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How can you promote a company with no capital?
by Screwface on Jul 30, 2009 9:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
But that doesn’t make sense.
The UFC doesn’t need him. The 30 million is way more than I thought the UFC was going to offer, I don’t see the offer going up. There is no way for a co-promotion to be with someone else.
That 30 million and wearing m-1 into the octagon are more money and more publicity than M1 can get doing any other deal. If that’s what he’s thinking, they’re not very good at business.
by Phildo on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The 30 Mill is the equivalent of A-Rod's contract
My buddy did the math:
“$2,195,000. That’s how much every fighter at UFC 100 made, combined, INCLUDING BONUSES. (Disclaimer: I did the math in my head and it’s fucking hot out, so that may be off a bit. Whatever!) UFC 100 had a gate of, I believe, about $5.1 million.
So, what the UFC is saying, is that they’re willing to turn over basically their entire gate to Fedor every time he fights. "
by woomikee on Jul 30, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I highly doubt he fears any of the UFC heavyweights
Really? This is quickly turning into, “I’m not scurred, I just don’t wanna!” Put up or shut up Fedor. Christ.
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by funnytiger on Jul 30, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really think he is scared? Come on
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes.
I think he knows he will probably lose at least one of these fights, because he can’t mix in Zulus or HMC’s in there… Neither will he be fighting MW’s… he will be fighting guys trying to take him OUT… He know that as soon as he loses, he has no power left to “PROMOTE” M1 and he’s terrified.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
by Loot on Jul 30, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t believe Fedor’s scared to fight anyone, he’s just retiring from being relevant. If it’s all just business, then go do business. If you want to fight the best, then…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know a good way to advance your company? Invest your $30 fucking million dollars in it and get millions more in free advertising for it during PPV events.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with you
And this is what I don’t understand.
Fedor and Vadim should jump on these 30 millions $ who would help them for all the projects they want to do outside the UFC.
Is the UFC offer a fake? Are they doing hard ball? Have they already new rich investors?
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would they jump on it immediately? I’ve they got $30 million after 2 days of negotiation, why would they not try to get more? It’s not like the UFC is going to withdraw the offer.
by Jahbulon on Jul 30, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I fear that they will withdraw the offer. Dana White is a man to get pissed really fast and to go personnal.
An article said that the negociation was cordial, it’s already an improvement.
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana might go personal, but he’s shown himself to be very capable of squashing way worse beefs than what’s going on now (see: Ortiz, Tito).
by Jahbulon on Jul 30, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it has anything to do with getting "personal"
Many have said this already, but I’m going to say it anyway.
Dana White and the UFC brass could give 2 farts in the wind about Fedor.
What they DO care about is what the fans want. Its pretty obvious that the fans have been wanting this for a long ass time. That’s what I love about the UFC and DW. They listen to the fans. They might not always give us exactly what we want, but I have no doubt that they are well aware of the fans wants and needs. The FANS are the ones clamoring for this, not DW. He’s sick and tired of people asking him about it (Fedor) so he’s doing his best to get it done for us.
If Fedor doesn’t sign with the UFC will the UFC suddenly become irrelevant? Nope.
If Fedor doesn’t sign with the UFC will Fedor suddenly become irrelevant? Hmm… I think “suddenly” is a bit harsh but replace that with “eventually” and I think we have a winner.
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by funnytiger on Jul 30, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly this
Also, Now the story is leaked about how hard the UFC chased, Dana has done his part as far as the fans go.
Dana is off the hook, and Finky has lost his payday.
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 30, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm no DW nut-hugger
far from it. But you cannot fault him for trying to get Fedor in the UFC. he has bendover trying, and frankly, it’s Fedor’s fault for not being in the UFC, no one elses. I would go as far to say that it’s not even Finkelchtein’s fault, it’s Fedor’s, period!
If Fedor really cared for his fans, he’d sign that contract immediately, but I don’t think he cares that much…
by orcus on Jul 30, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes! Maybe the UFC can spend the thirty mil to buy up all the land around Fedor’s apartment, and then we’ll just build a stadium around it. Oh, you wanna go to the store for some milk? Let me introduce you to our new doorkeeper, Mr. Lesnar…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Vadim envisions M-1 becoming what Pride was (never happen).
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if they’d taken the deal offered two years ago, Fedor would be leaving now as undefeated UFC heavyweight champion of the world, and they would have more than a snowball’s chance in hell.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i say, let fedor go wherever vadim thinks he should, and watch the 2 go at it in the courts ala tyson v. don king after some time
i’ll be a fan of the ufc with or without fedor
by theblade on Jul 30, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He certainly is getting bad advice from Vadim. Hopefully something changes soon. He is not getting any younger
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Since he doesn't speak English you have to wonder if his translator is telling him exactly what's being said.
by Patrick79x on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its very possible that he isnt getting the whole story. His brother has pointed out that he is being steered wrong by Vadim
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana: Fedor we are offering to make you BY FAR the highest paid fighter in our company and your company M-1 will get a tremendous amount of exposure on our PPV, you can have as many M-1 logos and posters as you want, you guys can even advertise on the mat or cage if you would like. Whaddya say?
Translator: Fedor, he said fuck your wife and kids, your parents are commie pieces of shit, sambo is for faggots, and he hates ice cream. You will earn less per fight than Roli Delgado and Dana is allowed to spit on you or kick you whenever he pleases. The contract is for 15 years or 50 fights, whichever comes first. Whaddya say?
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Vlad: That’s Nonsense, I Invented MMA Dana White Is The Devil!
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 30, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woww.. I made a fanpost about this exact article about half an hour before it was put up but somehow it has now miraculously disappeared. WTF.
by Mirjitsu on Jul 30, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s because you have Mir in your name.
by Screwface on Jul 30, 2009 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
It didn’t miraculously disappear, it was deleted.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 11:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I guess if Station Casinos suddenly comes out of Chapter 11 over the weekend, we’ll know that the deal didn’t go through…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty disappointing.
I expect that this being the 2nd attempt at signing him that Zuffa will simply ignore him from now on. It would be difficult for me if in their shoes to ever take them seriously. At this point I don’t know if the UFC even needs him now, the HW division is starting to look pretty interesting to me, certainly a good 2-3 years worth of compelling matchups even without Fedor.
by pr0cs on Jul 30, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah this is actually the perfect time for Fedor to sign and make crazy bank on this. The HW’s has suddenly gotten a hell of a lot more interesting. If he’d signed two years ago he would be emperor by now…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think with the stable of fighters the ufc has in the heavyweight div its not an issue as far as mainstream mma but in the hardcore mma community its always going to be an issue
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sense a shift in public opinion on this matter…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor's legacy is history, time to move on...
Dana & the UFC bent over backwards for him with their offer – it’s actually shocking what they offered him!
Vadim is a leech. Fedor is a fool. M-1 is nothing.
I no longer care about Fedor in the UFC. Like many have said – UFC doesn’t need him. They want him but don’t need him. The UFC would have made Fedor incredibly more rich & famous than M-1 or Strikeforce will. How does he not see this?!
Nothing personal against Fedor himself, but I’ll be rooting for him to lose from now on, just to put this BS to rest… then UFC can sign the guy who beat Fedor instead lol
Keep Swillin',
Bruz
by Bruz on Jul 30, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So if Fedor signed tomorrow you wouldn’t care?
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yes I’d care. I want him to sign the deal. But if he’s not coming in to fight Brock, Randy, Carwin, Velasquez and a linebacker to be named later, it’s just pointless. He’ll still be remembered as the greatest heavyweight for a long, long time. But I will consider him effectively retired from serious competition.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless the HW’s in UFC all retired today, Fedor won’t be signing tomorrow.
by ProCannonFodder on Jul 30, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cause he is scared right ? That is awesome
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, He just doesn’t want to lose. With a loss, all his mystique dries up and M-1 stops feeding his mother.
by ProCannonFodder on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its much more poor advice then fear
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree to a point. But I also wonder just how much freedom Fedor has to make up his own mind. The fear might be Vadim’s not Fedor’s.
by ProCannonFodder on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vadim is trying to secure his future on Fedor’s back. He isn’t stupid there is always the threat of a loss
by KING FEDOR on Jul 30, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More so in the UFC than anywhere else in the world.
by ProCannonFodder on Jul 30, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vadim will make more money with this deal
than with any other deal. The money he’ll get from putting his M-1 logo with Fedor in every UFC event Fedor is part of, and the money he’ll get from PPV’s buys from Fedor vs Lesner, is more money he’ll make otherwise. He’s just as dumb as Fedor, or just too ambitious to take the current deal dreaming there will be another one better. He shot himself in the foot, and no one will take the bullet out!
by orcus on Jul 30, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this is the case, I am taking a break from Fedor. No doubt, he is the best HW and a great, great fighter, but unfortunately I think he has his own agenda, which is fine, I’m just not interested in it.
I will instantly renew my interest when he either,
A) Signs with the UFC
or
B) Dismisses his management team.
Turning down an offer like this, in this economy, leads me to believe that there truly is more to his decision making or he is completely oblivious.
Best of luck, Fedor.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jul 30, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need UFC heavyweights to start calling out Fedor for being a coward. That will get him started in the right direction. Can anyone give Brock and Randy a call? kthx.
by jafotinatos on Jul 30, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A coward?
A guy who fought multiples times on injuries, including the biggest fighter ever? A guy who walked to make move away a person who was threatening his brother with a gun?
This hate is unreal. People can’t understand that Fedor owes them nothing? I hope too that he signs that deal but what you are saying seems like a spoiled kid speech.
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
I’ve been following your posts there JackO and quite frankly I think… wait… you’ve got a little something on your chin.
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by funnytiger on Jul 30, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The hate is very real. People spend two years screaming “Fedor!!!” in Dana’s ear, he breaks the bank to get it done, and M-1 says, “Okay give us part of the company and we’ll think about it…” What the hell do you expect people to say? I don’t hate Fedor, I hate their game.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
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by funnytiger on Jul 30, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost noone is saying
that Fedor is a coward. What we are saying, because it’s a reasonable assumption based on the reported events, is that Fedor is unwilling to risk losing at this point in his career. The recent drubbings of Arlovski and Sylvia have given him a foothold in the US that they want to exploit, and moving into the UFC risks all that, and big time. So yeah, he’s ducking the UFC, but it’s not because he’s a coward. It’s because his mystique floats away if he gets beat cro-cop style in the Octagon.
by Jiiri on Jul 30, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, think of what happens, even to new fighters, in the UFC. They almost never get easy fights. Lesnar was tossed to a former champ, then a well-experienced fighter, then another former champ, then another former champ. Fedor fights someone worth-while then fights cans for a year or so. The environment in the UFC is much more competitive.
by Jiiri on Jul 30, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
A guy who fought multiples times on injuries
Isn’t it fairly common for MOST fighters to fight with some sort of injury? I don’t think Fedor is entitled to a gold star for doing something a lot of other fighters do routinely…
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by funnytiger on Jul 30, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana offered Edith instead of Logan and Fedor told the UFC to go blow.
by ProCannonFodder on Jul 30, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So Fedor’s not into horseface either? Hm… seems me and the emperor have a lot in common…
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by funnytiger on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard not to respect a man who would throw 30 million away so he didn’t have to bang Edith.
by ProCannonFodder on Jul 30, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor "the coward"
It seems that you had plenty of dangerous situations in your life.
Definitely. I can’t even tell you half the stuff. But I’ll recall one incident. Fedya just came back from the army. We started drinking, and even took some wine with us and went to the forrest to relax. I was just a boy, got drunk right away. Everyone is in a good mood. We’re just standing in a field – me, Fedya, some girls. We’re just talking, don’t bother anybody. All of a sudden here comes some strange man, pushes everyone out of the way. Gets in the center, starts looking everyone in the eye. He doesn’t say a word and then just starts to walk away. I’m asking Fedor: ‘Who’s that?’ – ‘I have no idea’.
You got upset?
I’m screaming at him "Hey, wait up! Don’t you know how to behave?" I didn’t want to beat him up, just wanted to understand, what’s up with this dude. I’m walking towards him, he’s walking backwards away from me. Then he takes out a gun.
The barrel didn’t stop you?
I’m telling him "You bastard". And then Fedor comes out, when he noticed the gun. He tells his friend, hold Aleks back, I will sort this out. He calmly starts talking to this guy, while moving towards him. The guys nerves didn’t hold up – he put the gun in his belt and started running out of there… I never mentally said goodbye to my life, but afterwards I would often think: Yeah that was kind of close.
And yet Fedor is affraid to fight in the UFC for 5 millions a fight when he said that he does not even care about his legacy but just wants to be remembered as a good guy? It’s time to be reasonable.
I don’t know what they are not taking this offer but I assume that there is a far better reason.
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aim low everyone. This guy’s on his knees…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jul 30, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're not saying Fedor is a coward.
(Sorry accidently hit Enter on that)
We’re saying is afraid, for business reasons, to take a loss, at this stage in his career. There is a distinction.
by Jiiri on Jul 30, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man I can’t type.
We’re saying HE is unwilling, for business reasons, to risk taking a loss.
That’s better.
by Jiiri on Jul 30, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The greatest heavyweight in ever
DOESN’T EVEN HAVE RIGHTS TO HIS HL REEL!
That makes me LOL. Pretty sure the UFC snatched the Affliction video library up
by Madskillz on Jul 30, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if u were aware or nor but Fedor has 30 other fights that weren’t with Affliction.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 2:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
UFC owns the PRIDE library too, buddy.
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by subo on Jul 30, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope “nyet” is a short form of “not yet”, we will sign tomorrow…
by kovy on Jul 30, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor needs the UFC more than the UFC needs Fedor. Plain and simple, Fedor will continue to fight out side of the UFC against fairly good competition. Sooner or later he will lose and he will be forgotten about.
by Bandaka on Jul 30, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay it's official
I no longer care about Fedor
by majesticlamb on Jul 30, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As someone who
I have been following MMA regulary for about 1-2 years now; and i see things a little different to most followers of MMA.
In the last year or so i have not seen anything of note from timmeh,barnett (the complete drug cheat, AA, chuck liddel, bonnar, W silva, and most of all fedor. From what iv seen he fights cans or fighters who have a far better rep then the reality of the time. shady businesses and bad fights, special rules and highly suspect match making doesn’t make me think much of fighters.
I am glad for this and the shattering of the illusion that fedor is above mortal status… i believe that peoples current actions are what you should judge people by; by that standard fedor for what ever reasons/excuses fedor doesnt do very well… This is in contrast to lyoto my cheetah, GSP, randy, kenny flo hell most of the UFC fighters and most ofthe strikeforce roster too…
flame on…
by Beren on Jul 30, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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